MuchMore FLETA ZX V2 and STING. vs Team Powers ACTINIUM V2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- A look at the latest Muchmore FLETA ZX V2 Brushless motors.
The legal "ER" and the outlaw "Sting"
Also a quick look at the Team Powers "Actinium" Version 2 .
Strip down and analysis of the Muchmore motors.
Test and comparison of performance.
Test results at the end.
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Hi Nick, Have you been able to check on Specter version of Fleta? I am looking for something smooth to my GT10 (pancar) with 10.5 turns. I wanted to go for regular ER but the released Specter and I wonder how it could work with 2WD.
Thanks for posting Nick, I don't have the equipment to test so your reviews are very welcome
Two questions please...
Would the differences between them by the same in a 13.5 wind?
Is the fleta better than the R1 v1.5?
Thanks
Hi
Yes, the 13.5T ER and Sting have the same variations.
I am waiting to test the new R1 motor, but for fast circuits I expect the ZX V2 to be at the front.
The cooling will enable it to be geared hard, and still keep speed at the end.
Nick
Nick Adams what brand is the tester you use in motor stator I need one let me know and thanks for help me soon
Hi
Unfotunately I bought that tester about 40 years ago, and it is no longer made.
Was sold by "RS Components Ltd" part 611-953
Keep a search on Ebay, maybe one will come up
Hey nick, I have a New muchmore Fleta zx V2 17.5 ER and and it seems to say fixed timing and No timing adjustment avalible, so Im a bit confused as I cant see this in any of the models...Thoughts? is this wrong..
Hi Spencer you may have the ER fixed timing version:
www.muchmoreracing.net/product_view.php?pidx=1466
Thanks Nick...Other Questions, whats the Rotor needed to boost the 13.5t Muchmore fleta zx V2 in your last video?
Hi Spencer. You will need a higher strength, preferably about 1450 - 1500 gauss. The Trinity/Revtech rotors will fit the Fleta. And it was one of those.
Nick Adams If replacing the Rotor with a titanium rotor, will it work if the van is 12-18 months old?
Great video I really appreciate you making these. Everything looks and sounds great!! Keep it up friend!!
Is there a Higher Gaus titanium rotor for the fleta? Anything in the 15500 or 1600 plus range? Thx
Hi Jason
The Sting version has a very strong rotor.1600gauss
But I am not sure if it is for sale on its own.
Hi I have the actinium v2 17.5 in blinky and I have it set for 3 amps. Should I tune it for 6 amps? It's geared 69/33 in a b6
Hi Israel
If your B6 and gearing is giving you all the performance you need , then leave it.
If you want more top end speed, then advance the timing.
Check motor temperature is not too hot after the run, or gear with smaller pinion.
Hi Nick, if replacing the rotor on the Muchmore to titanium and the motor is already 12-18 months old, is this a major issue or waste of time?
Hi Spencer. The age of the motor is not an issue, as long as the bearings are good. But the Titanium rotors are for high rpm. They have less torque than the standard rotor. Therefore they are very good for large high speed tracks. But smaller and indoor high grip tracks, they will not have the acceleration, and will require smaller pinions (larger FDR) to prevent overheating.
Nick Adams thanks Nick, think I understand your thoughts and will test out the idea on our tracks. FDR is 8.20 and Motor comes off around 30c with timing at 43. Happy to hear further when you can. Cheers
@@spencerclements2012 Hi, What wind is the motor?
Nick Adams 13.5 bud
@@spencerclements2012 With that FDR the revs will be very high. You can run lower until the motor starts heating up.
Good day, what are KV and RPM values for the Fleet V2 Sting engine?
And for the ER legal engine?
On the video, the types of motor are covered by the conector in the test. Thank you
And why is one engine timed to only 39 and the other to 49? Then the values can not be compared when there is always another timing
Can you please do the test just write me the values of STING engine at timing 50?
Hi Jiri
The KV can be set by the timing, but a comparison of performance is obtained by setting the power in vs the KV out.
So setting at the same amp draw gives a direct comparison.
Hi Jiri
The Sting 17.5T
The maximum timing that can be set on the endbell is 47 degree.
The endbell will not turn any further.
The readings are : KV 3704, RPM 27785.
At that maximum timing the amp draw is 14.1A at 7.5v which equates to 106watts of heat being dissipated in the motor before it does anything to move the car.
That dissipation will cause severe motor overheating.
Hello, Mr Adams, thank you very much for your answer. So STING Engine is worse performance than ER Legal Engine? I was told that the STING engine is stronger than the 15T engines
You say some rotors measure in the 1500s. Which brands and sizes have those high numbers?
Hi
The latest MOTIV and FANTOM have very strong rotors
Did you ever test the gauss on the 17.5 actinium v2?
Hi Lui
Actinium rotor. I did measure it , but forgot to record the result. It was1400gauss.
Hi Nick -must have missed that part. there are a bunch of titanium rotors on the muchmore site. I saw a yellow sting titanium rotor. I would think that combined with their ER v2 would be a great combination.
Hi Jason
Yes, the Titanium rotors are very good, but expensive.
Hi Nick will you be testing the new Team powers actinium v3 any time soon? i can send you my 17.5 for testing if you like?, just let me know cheers, Carl
Hi Carl
The V3 looks very similar to the MuchMore.
It has a few upgrades which should bring it up to the latest and best motors.
They say the winding resistance has been lowered by 15-20%, but that is compared to their V2 which was poor.
The rotor looks like a step forward.
Cooling obviously improved.
Weight, they say about 155gm which is good. (The Hobbywing holds the record at 132.4gm (13.5T).
I will be testing the new Rocket V4 and the new R1 V17 very soon.
Hi, I have the muchmore 17.5T specter which would be the timming
Hi Ricky
For Blinky racing.
If you have no means of measuring the amp draw, then it is a bit of trial and error. Turn the timing to 50 degree , as marked on the endbell.
Check motor temperature after race. If too hot turn back a couple of degrees.
Nick, again great vid! I have the Actinium V2 and its a decent motor. I have to bring up the Team Scream Racing The One 17.5 again though. Its the lowest weight I have seen yet: 144.8 w stainless steel screws. (The newest Motiv I think is around 144 even though) The rotor Gauss is at 1680 avg. Its a 4 line rotor, their strongest. And the stator resistance is 36.4 and 36.6 (when measuring a/b and b/c together) I havent ran this particular one on track yet but my other TSR (similar numbers) was far and away faster than all the others. This is on a 100x45 ft black carpet track with 17.5 blinky touring car. On a large asphalt track the very strong rotor might hurt top speed but on the tighter carpet tracks in 17.5 TC it seems like the more rotor gauss the better. Its ROAR legal but not sure if its BRCA legal though. What is interesting is their use of non magnetic screws, (similar to the full tilt Fantom V2 which uses aluminum screws) TSR claim 300-500 more rpm simply from less resistance from pulling against the field. Do you find similar results?
It's not BRCA legal, Team Scream isn't sold in the UK as far as I know and it may not meet BRCA requirements. The most popular motors in spec racing here are the R1 V15 for 17.5 Blinky and Fantom V2 in 13.5 Boosted
Luke Burr Hi Luke--thanks for the info. TSR seems to center around the USA and not being BRCA legal I can see why. The new (revised) Trinity Monster with the lower resistance stator would be an interesting test. The original Monster was very fast in 17.5, a definite contender. The revised one is thought to be even quicker.
What are these excellent looking motors used for?
Hi
They are used for model car competition racing.
Thanks, I was here looking at your audio repair stuff. Great job on the videos
You should really check out the updated Monster Max motor from Team Trinity. It's currently dominating everything in my area.
Hi John
Good call.
Will test one as soon as I can get one.