It's interesting how a lot of rare content has been resting in obscure artists sites for a decade without people knowing about their existence (Jared Fry, Andrew Woods, etc). I think Tyler Wilson (and to an extent Sota Yuyama, not really an artist) is the only guy who was aknowledge pretty early in Bully's lifespan. It's weird seeing how every UI had a kinda complex yet unique design just to be replaced by a generic one in the final version. It just looks like a generic gta menu tbh. About the Locker UI: I recall seeing the red hair girl in the rich clothing store wall as a wallpaper (or someone similar). The weapon at 7:00 seems to be a rocket crossbow. You were originally going to use a wrench to fight the bullies in defend bucky. The wrench is still in the game but only as a workshop class prop, doesn't really work on freeroam. About the 2 different combos, it's ironic because i found some stuff about that like 2 days ago, and this video just confirmed my theory. Jimmy was originally meant to learn more fighting moves from the hobbo but some were partially scrapped because the complete overhaul of the controls. Along with 2 different combos (a 3 hit (X) and a 5 hit (square) combo), he would also learn variations of some moves, semi charged and fully charged. They weren't completely removed, just disabled. I found a pretty shitty method to swap anims and some are still kinda functional.
you're correct about the picture of the girl in the locker, and if i remember correctly she is also the centerfold that earnest speaks to during the cutscene before the big game :0
@@TheBklah there's way too much evidence for it NOT to happen. With the yan2295 prediction, the casting calls, it all seems clear. I feel they're going to milk gta and red dead online for a few years, at least. What are they going to make in the meantime, max Payne 4, or manhunt 3? No chance. Bully has been begging for a sequel and with the rest of the Easter eggs in Rockstars recent games, it seems like Bully II will be Rockstars next game.
I would assume "Special" was meant to be a fighting mechanic in a VERY early stage of development. You'd probably build up some type of meter and unleash your special move on whoever you were locked onto during combat.
You know it would be cool if the combat was more interactive as Jimmy got more skilled (more unique moves from the hobo, a dodge/counter attack ability, things like that).
Um, you are wrong. The main reason why so many stuff were cut and/or not used was NEVER due to the ps2 hardware limitations. The main reason was because bully had to be rushed and/or some ideas were just not liked by the dev team. The best example for the game being rushed is the school interior and exterior. Hell, even the school's exterior was much different then vanilla.
Depth Jacks yeah they could’ve added a lot more detail to the interior of the academy, pretty sure there was a third floor originally, they could’ve finished the third floor and made it fit into the game somehow.
Dan Calhoun he said in one of his last streams that the creator of the mod asked him not to make any more until he was done with the mod. that's why Sweg put it on hold
_knowing i watched this when it came out, ive come back_ i feel as if that lockers screen would be an alternative inventory storage maybe you could run out of inventory space and then you head to your locker to store specific items of your selections so you could get different weapons or items and store in your inventory then when your inventory gets full again, you'd go to the locker and have to swap items
I think special might stand for special attack. after you land a certain amount of attacks it charges up a special attack that does more damage than a normal attack
Thank you. I actually have a file called "video_ideas.txt" that consists of over 100 ideas for videos. If there is any area where I have managed to have my imagination flourish it's on TH-cam.
I reckon that locker pic could have been concept for a save station. Like your bedroom and other safehouse locations, the locker would be somewhere in the main Bullworth building of where you could perform a save :)
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the "Music Player" controls pretty much confirm a feature that was rumored in early versions of bully consisting of the ability to insert and play your own downloaded music in-game. The deleted shopkeeper, Nate, hinting this by having lines referencing Jimmy buying music from his store.
The controls for heavy attacks and light attacks are the same ones used in The Warriors,this makes me wonder if Bully had the same combo system as in the game mentioned before also speaking about bully borrowing The Warriors features,Johnny's beta move is probably borrowed from a rage variation of a power move
Speaking of Manhunt, it does use separate buttons for light and heavy attacks. It seems that Rockstar Vancouver wanted to implement this system in Bully but later scrapped this idea.
16:23 Maybe it was meant for thing like humiliations, or that move that lets you slap an egg in someone's face. Or maybe even the countrary, like apologizing or paying someone. I really can't come up with anything else, unless there were meant to be special actions that you could do with different outfits, like the mascot dance.
about the bulletin board "thingy" weapon, seems like a bow using fireworks as arrows, like the firework launcher thing in the final game, but the beta version of it.
what i think is that the special stands for the humulations that jimmy can do so it could not have been included in the social menu or replaced with something else
also about the speacial thing in the controls mabey it could have been an environmental attack of grapple but mabey some charicters were designed or made around a special move or something
I honestly think the early Blue/Yellow designs are the best. I just... I dunno, I think they look so much cooler in my opinion, especially the old title menu at 11:16. I honestly think that was kept in the final version of the game. :)
judging by the screenshot of sinister grinning Jimmy,the storable fire extinguisher,trash can lid and pipe wrench all seemed quite natural for R*'s initial idea of a much darker Bully,the pipe wrench might've been what the lead pipe used to be before R* halted the "GTA without real guns" idea
Can you imagine what bully would look like if it was originally released on the PS3 and have some of the original beta content in it ...it would probably be awesome because some of the great beta features that were removed from the game were removed because of the PS2's limitations like the Nerd Battle Wagon it was removed because PS2 had limitations but if it was released on the PS3 the battle wagon could've been in the final version and the funny thing is that Bully was released an exact month before the PS3.
I'm thinking the lockers, while very farfetched, could've been a place where Jimmy could store things. Every student on campus seems to have their own locker, except Jimmy. Even if this isn't true (it probly isn't anyway), that would be a cool feature to add. 13:14 I think Jimmys riding in Bullworth town, in that grass area in front of city hall.
what if the special button was used for costumes maybe originaly all special mascot type outfits would have had a special a special animation like the bullworth the school mascot has
Bro a pipi wrench could have been in auto body class. And/or near the location of where Gary sets you up to fight Russel. Alley ways, etc etc. There are many places where they could have put pipe wrenches.....
I think that "Special" thing was used maybe for when Jimmy humiliates his enemies. It is kinda a special move that you don't do usually. Maybe Rockstar decided to do it for a button while in the social menu after you beat your opponents up.
I think (and this is pure speculation) that the picture of the lockers with the rockstar logo on one of them might have been a screenshot of an early concept for the intro cinematic of the game showing the logo's of the exact rockstar team(s) that worked on the game. Like I said I have zero fucking evidence for this and thus it is pure speculation, but the amount of detail in the shadows and light seems too high rest to not be pre-rendered, so I kinda assume it is and thus is most likely a cut scene of some form, considering the logo it being an intro cinematic makes the most sense to me.
I think the "special" button could refer to jimmy having some sort of signature move.. a powerful attack (like a finisher in wrestling). This may be a dumb idea.. but this was the first thought that came to mind.
Maybe back when the game was much more cartoonish, characters would've been able to activate various special attacks, like in Yakuza, or many other brawlers.
It's interesting how a lot of rare content has been resting in obscure artists sites for a decade without people knowing about their existence (Jared Fry, Andrew Woods, etc). I think Tyler Wilson (and to an extent Sota Yuyama, not really an artist) is the only guy who was aknowledge pretty early in Bully's lifespan.
It's weird seeing how every UI had a kinda complex yet unique design just to be replaced by a generic one in the final version. It just looks like a generic gta menu tbh.
About the Locker UI:
I recall seeing the red hair girl in the rich clothing store wall as a wallpaper (or someone similar).
The weapon at 7:00 seems to be a rocket crossbow.
You were originally going to use a wrench to fight the bullies in defend bucky. The wrench is still in the game but only as a workshop class prop, doesn't really work on freeroam.
About the 2 different combos, it's ironic because i found some stuff about that like 2 days ago, and this video just confirmed my theory. Jimmy was originally meant to learn more fighting moves from the hobbo but some were partially scrapped because the complete overhaul of the controls. Along with 2 different combos (a 3 hit (X) and a 5 hit (square) combo), he would also learn variations of some moves, semi charged and fully charged. They weren't completely removed, just disabled. I found a pretty shitty method to swap anims and some are still kinda functional.
Make a video about that combos u said please! very interesting
you're correct about the picture of the girl in the locker, and if i remember correctly she is also the centerfold that earnest speaks to during the cutscene before the big game :0
Yeah Candy from Ohio, it's hard to notice at first.
"What did you do to get arrested?"
"I uh, stole 59 bikes..."
Heavy weapons Guy crabblesnitch:what?
I stole like 204 bikes in bully
Those exclusive beta screenshots...
This is now my favourite video, incredible work, sweg.
SimonBestia talk to me Simon, come on man :(
@@viewbob4755bro got ghosted
Oh good lord that pic of Zoe... ew
Zman Enterprises when
bball boy 3:15
Aron Ramadani but without her mask and outfit
he just get a old haircut. in final version,he got a new haircut.
He? did you just assume someones gender?
I fucking love you sweg. your vids are litterally like a Christmas present
Bully is such an amazing game, I can't wait for Bully 2
@Tupax Amaru Makaveli Shakur I'm feeling we're getting an announcement this September.
@@ketchican hoping and praying
@@TheBklah there's way too much evidence for it NOT to happen. With the yan2295 prediction, the casting calls, it all seems clear. I feel they're going to milk gta and red dead online for a few years, at least. What are they going to make in the meantime, max Payne 4, or manhunt 3? No chance. Bully has been begging for a sequel and with the rest of the Easter eggs in Rockstars recent games, it seems like Bully II will be Rockstars next game.
Tupax Amaru Makaveli Shakur it’s coming out next year apparently
@@ketchican How'd that announcement go, bud?
7:12 bow with fireworks?
HeySlickThatsMe yep I think it was changed to the bottle rocket launcher
It was later changed to Rocket Launcher
Okay Slick am I going to see you on EVERY video I watch?
Spoilers
No spoilers here
I mean yes
I would assume "Special" was meant to be a fighting mechanic in a VERY early stage of development. You'd probably build up some type of meter and unleash your special move on whoever you were locked onto during combat.
GodofWar98 yep, or the bullying moves
*****
Damn, that's an old game.
You know it would be cool if the combat was more interactive as Jimmy got more skilled (more unique moves from the hobo, a dodge/counter attack ability, things like that).
3:15 i swear I thought they were zombies
itz weird. Iiii
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If only the PS2 was a bit more powerful at the time, Bully would have been much more amazing
Linkfinite It was also being made for the original Xbox.
Shame it was cancelled.
This makes me wonder, what if Bully was made instead of GTA 4 and GTA 4 was made instead of RDR, would it be better? Worse?
Um, you are wrong. The main reason why so many stuff were cut and/or not used was NEVER due to the ps2 hardware limitations. The main reason was because bully had to be rushed and/or some ideas were just not liked by the dev team. The best example for the game being rushed is the school interior and exterior. Hell, even the school's exterior was much different then vanilla.
Are you implying Bully is more powerful than GTA San Andreas?
Depth Jacks yeah they could’ve added a lot more detail to the interior of the academy, pretty sure there was a third floor originally, they could’ve finished the third floor and made it fit into the game somehow.
Man I love watching swegta
finish insanity edition,
Dan Calhoun ikr
Dan Calhoun he said in one of his last streams that the creator of the mod asked him not to make any more until he was done with the mod. that's why Sweg put it on hold
Jug c
the lockers could of been a loading screen
5:15 i think the girl on the bottom left might be Lola, since the haircut looks very much like a 50-60's housewife haircut
_knowing i watched this when it came out, ive come back_
i feel as if that lockers screen would be an alternative inventory storage
maybe you could run out of inventory space and then you head to your locker to store specific items of your selections so you could get different weapons or items and store in your inventory
then when your inventory gets full again, you'd go to the locker and have to swap items
13:17 this looks much like Bullworth Town Square
Great job as always Sweg, shame those are all clues only.
HOLY SHIT A 20 MINUTE VIDEO FROM SWEGTA
I think special might stand for special attack. after you land a certain amount of attacks it charges up a special attack that does more damage than a normal attack
I will speculate the Pipe Wrench was a secret weapon found in The Greasers hideout. The Greasers are seen hanging around the auto-shop and garages.
*gets shot in the face with slingshot ball* “I feel your pain-“
I love you creativity being able to make so many bully videos is amazing
Thank you. I actually have a file called "video_ideas.txt" that consists of over 100 ideas for videos.
If there is any area where I have managed to have my imagination flourish it's on TH-cam.
That "Fire Extinguisher" in the second one looks more like a set of golf clubs.
I reckon that locker pic could have been concept for a save station. Like your bedroom and other safehouse locations, the locker would be somewhere in the main Bullworth building of where you could perform a save :)
17:30 you dubbed Gary pretty well xD
The 5th item in the inventory was a firework bow. I would like to see that in the game...
I'll be so happy fot SWEGTA if Bully 2 really comes out. He deserves so much :')
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the "Music Player" controls pretty much confirm a feature that was rumored in early versions of bully consisting of the ability to insert and play your own downloaded music in-game. The deleted shopkeeper, Nate, hinting this by having lines referencing Jimmy buying music from his store.
That Greaser Guy Yes
15:37 don't we all love our "mustic player"
The controls for heavy attacks and light attacks are the same ones used in The Warriors,this makes me wonder if Bully had the same combo system as in the game mentioned before
also speaking about bully borrowing The Warriors features,Johnny's beta move is probably borrowed from a rage variation of a power move
16:17 this song is so familiar! is it a linkin park song? can someone pls tell me its right at the tip of my tongue.
if u reading this, u good at english
It's by Limp Bizkit
oh limp bizkit thank you
its called my way ok I don't need to worry about this anymore.
@@reemyziz
His english is actually good.
Speaking of Manhunt, it does use separate buttons for light and heavy attacks. It seems that Rockstar Vancouver wanted to implement this system in Bully but later scrapped this idea.
I agree
My guess on sniper mode is the zoom down slingshot type of camera, like when you are zoomed in or camera over your shoulder
16:23 Maybe it was meant for thing like humiliations, or that move that lets you slap an egg in someone's face. Or maybe even the countrary, like apologizing or paying someone. I really can't come up with anything else, unless there were meant to be special actions that you could do with different outfits, like the mascot dance.
I think that sniper view means the super slingshot's zooming in feature we have today
8:30 I dont know why but that made me laugh so hard lmfao
14:14 brother those were vehicle controls... Saw the radish font up there ?
I think it was for the stats and stuff because the paper of (etc..) But it could show how much missions a collectibles you have/Did
I have been following you for 3 years, why u no have bully mp released for testing? Hell, i would love to play even the most broken version of it.
Locker photo is for loading screen
about the bulletin board "thingy" weapon, seems like a bow using fireworks as arrows, like the firework launcher thing in the final game, but the beta version of it.
clicked so fast it turned me into a sperm cell
what i think is that the special stands for the humulations that jimmy can do
so it could not have been included in the social menu or replaced with something else
also about the speacial thing in the controls mabey it could have been an environmental attack of grapple but mabey some charicters were designed or made around a special move or something
This game has more to it than I thought
now where the hell do you find these sick ass remixes you put in the background of these videos
I honestly think the early Blue/Yellow designs are the best. I just... I dunno, I think they look so much cooler in my opinion, especially the old title menu at 11:16. I honestly think that was kept in the final version of the game. :)
judging by the screenshot of sinister grinning Jimmy,the storable fire extinguisher,trash can lid and pipe wrench all seemed quite natural for R*'s initial idea of a much darker Bully,the pipe wrench might've been what the lead pipe used to be before R* halted the "GTA without real guns" idea
when it means special they are probably referring to Humiliations that you can do to your enemy when their at low health
The lockers where probs for the gym changing rooms when u had to put stinkboms in the locker or it was for a different mission
"I feel your pain"
-Earnest
Can you imagine what bully would look like if it was originally released on the PS3 and have some of the original beta content in it ...it would probably be awesome because some of the great beta features that were removed from the game were removed because of the PS2's limitations like the Nerd Battle Wagon it was removed because PS2 had limitations but if it was released on the PS3 the battle wagon could've been in the final version and the funny thing is that Bully was released an exact month before the PS3.
I think it would be better if the pause menu was Jimmy's notebook
I think the fourth photo of Jimmy on his bike was taken near the town hall
Well I learned alot I might even remake it.Thanks for the great content Sweggy
I'm thinking the lockers, while very farfetched, could've been a place where Jimmy could store things. Every student on campus seems to have their own locker, except Jimmy. Even if this isn't true (it probly isn't anyway), that would be a cool feature to add.
13:14 I think Jimmys riding in Bullworth town, in that grass area in front of city hall.
It's nice to know that we're getting new Bully information. now it begins...
17:30These controls are the same with Mobile version when i use a ps4 controller
Maybe they tried to have an interactive menu where the lockers would open depending on the menu section?
what if the special button was used for costumes
maybe originaly all special mascot type outfits would have had a special a special animation like the bullworth the school mascot has
13:12
The picture is taken, as I think, close to the Town Hall, you know, when you spray that big-ass grafitti?
SomeDroid
Yeah i thought that too
7:07 that looks to me like either a crossbow or some multi gun weapon thing
No sniper mode is a thing in bully it is a aiming mode for the eggs and etc
How do you look behind your character on the Wii version, plus tackling? Grab, then put them on the ground.
7:38 what is the name of this soundtrack
Bro a pipi wrench could have been in auto body class. And/or near the location of where Gary sets you up to fight Russel. Alley ways, etc etc. There are many places where they could have put pipe wrenches.....
Also the stats page features inconsistent capitalization on the word Bike
What was the name of the music at 11:18 ?
swegs been doing backwards hadokens since 1892
They used Bangers Font for Grey Locker, and i thought the font was new, "Shiiiiish" - Jimmy Hopkins
I think that "Special" thing was used maybe for when Jimmy humiliates his enemies. It is kinda a special move that you don't do usually. Maybe Rockstar decided to do it for a button while in the social menu after you beat your opponents up.
I legit watched this video and forgot how to walk in bully
I think (and this is pure speculation) that the picture of the lockers with the rockstar logo on one of them might have been a screenshot of an early concept for the intro cinematic of the game showing the logo's of the exact rockstar team(s) that worked on the game.
Like I said I have zero fucking evidence for this and thus it is pure speculation, but the amount of detail in the shadows and light seems too high rest to not be pre-rendered, so I kinda assume it is and thus is most likely a cut scene of some form, considering the logo it being an intro cinematic makes the most sense to me.
Special probably means the class that the person needs to attend
I think the "special" button could refer to jimmy having some sort of signature move.. a powerful attack (like a finisher in wrestling). This may be a dumb idea.. but this was the first thought that came to mind.
Senpai Swegta you're the best. love you vids man
The lockers look like they could've been for a loading screen
Special button might have been used for the special attacks instead of the combinations used in the final edition
Special could've perhaps referred to the fire extinguisher's stun ability.
Sweg are those videos from the Wii Bully you got coming soon?
Hi SWEGTA, how can we manage to get the Police Mod by DaBoss nowadays? Tks
Yo Swegman, what is the track playing in the background at the beginning? Can’t seem to find it on the OST. Many thanks in advance
I think the Sniper View wouldn’t be a FPS, it’d probably be the aim mode that you can select by double-pressing up on the d-pad
I've always heard special referring to better attacks that need to be charged.
Okay so this might be a stretch but maybe the grey locker design was rockstar's logo when you begin the game maybe ... I don't know
Hello, I would like to know if you can modify the bully with the movements and beta characters to make a mod, thanks
great video sweg. and also are you ever going to do another episode of bully brawl
Yo sweggy, how are the three beta versions of scholarship edition coming along? have you gotten everything you need to use and record from it?
The two fighting buttons was used in the warriors
i think what rock star meant by special sprint mean that you can run fast in this mod
Maybe back when the game was much more cartoonish, characters would've been able to activate various special attacks, like in Yakuza, or many other brawlers.
4:40 i think it might of been a 3D Main menu?
L1 could be a special attack .? Maybe they had a choke hold attack for grapple as a special. NO EVIDENCE I HAVE FOR IT. But could be
we all know theres one perfect way to have a weapon select screen with more than 2 weapons all on one button and that is the weapon wheel from gta V
Does that Bully comic actually exist anywhere?.
Why did you delete that video? Are you quaking in your boots right now swegy?
John Marston go find your son down in the comment
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I assume special would be used during combat to perform a more powerful move.
It might be a special move or something with fighting as it said with 'Special'
hey does anybody know where do i supposed to put for example: ArcRace1.lur , so i can use Derby Boss fight mod. pls reply Thank you.
I think the special would be like when your had a bully at low health and you could like pull their ear or spit on them, like a taunt or "finisher"