OH NO! The Roger Vick Story (New York Jets)

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  • With their first round pick in the 1987 NFL Draft, the New York Jets chose Texas A&M fullback Roger Vick. The pick was infamous for the fan who shouted out "oh no" the moment that commissioner Pete Rozelle announced it. But did the pick make sense at the time? What did Vick do with in his time with the Jets? And was this pick truly one of the biggest busts and first round blunders in the history of the Jets? This is the complete history of what happened to Roger Vick.
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    0:00 Intro
    1:20 Why the Jets Needed a Fullback
    3:38 Roger Vick and the 1987 NFL Draft
    6:12 The 1987 Season
    9:17 The 1988 Season
    12:25 The 1989 Season & The End of His Career
    #nfl #nfldraft #jets #nyjets
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  • @bjnt92281
    @bjnt92281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    People forget there was once a time when the fullback was used as a primary offensive weapon and not as an extra offensive lineman.

    • @bigchee8263
      @bigchee8263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was 13 and knew this was a garbage pick

    • @fraz72
      @fraz72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yep backs like Jim brown Larry csonka, Franco Harris, were officially fullbacks but we're featured backs given those times. Lynn Cain of the falcons was a good ball carrying fullback but William Andrews was such a great tailback they had to feature him

    • @brianthomas2434
      @brianthomas2434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holy Cow! Fortunately, you have an avatar, so we can't be mistaken for each other.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And even by 1987 that time had clearly passed.

    • @scawfan75
      @scawfan75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@DolFan316 Laughs in Mike Alstott

  • @sparkythesecretsquirrel4013
    @sparkythesecretsquirrel4013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    "OH no" seems to be the go to chant for Jets fans on draft day.

    • @John-tr6of
      @John-tr6of 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @NO PATS JIM Three AFC Championship Games (1998, two under Rex).

    • @area.man.
      @area.man. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jets fans would boo if the Jets drafted God. Always the most annoying part of the draft when it was in New York.

    • @kevinpiacente3456
      @kevinpiacente3456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wait til they screw up this draft

    • @kevinpiacente3456
      @kevinpiacente3456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@area.man. most NY fans don't watch college so they don't know 99% of the players

    • @area.man.
      @area.man. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kevinpiacente3456 You are exactly right.

  • @tonypauline225
    @tonypauline225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was the fan that yelled "Oh No!!" The draft was held on a Tuesday back then- all 12 rounds. The video misses a lot of things:
    1- Paige was upset at the Jets in 1985. Paige had a bonus clause in his contract if he scored more than 10 TD's. Once Paige scored his 10th TD in '85 the Jets never gave him a chance to score an 11th.
    2- Vick was selected as much to justify the disastrous selection of Mike Haight in 1986 as much as anything else. The Jets desperately needed a left tackle after reaching for Haight. The players the Jets should have taken in '87 were either Harris Barton (SF) or Bruce Armstrong (NE), players selected immediately after the Jets took Vick and players who were both All Pro on multiple occasion.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think I've actually heard of you! The name Tony Pauline seems familiar to me for some reason.

    • @luisreyes1963
      @luisreyes1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing. 🤨

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, you make my day every time I hear that clip

    • @dkworkman82
      @dkworkman82 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 I love it I still question our drafts today

    • @SeanP7195
      @SeanP7195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m shocked a Jets fan crying out in agony is named “Tony”. What are the chances?

  • @bryantsteury8910
    @bryantsteury8910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That oh no is fucking incredible. I don't care if Vick went on to have a hall of fame career, that immediate, off the cuff, innocent "OH NO!" makes me chuckle so hard and will continue to do so every time I hear it

  • @benjamin29471
    @benjamin29471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “The New York Jets selection… Fullback…”
    “OH NO!”

  • @PaulGaither
    @PaulGaither 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Spoiler alert
    11:15 "guess what happens next"
    Me: He fumbles.
    He breaks a tackle. Oh, this has promise.
    Does he score a... and there it is, he fumbled.

  • @joedavis4257
    @joedavis4257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Hey thanks for reminding me the Lions took a fullback in the first round in 1983 instead of Dan Marino.

    • @pronkb000
      @pronkb000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Literally every team in the league except the Dolphins and Washington missed out on Marino.

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@pronkb000 Tampa Bay didn’t, ahem, pass on Marino. But that’s only because they traded that first round pick the year before to Chicago for the Bears’ second round pick that year. The Buccaneers took Booker Reese with that second round pick only after sending up the wrong name in the first round.

    • @jasonnelson6624
      @jasonnelson6624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Lions couldn't evaluate qb's so they would have missed Marino. Sorry. But they did steal Marino replacement Scott Mitchell lol.

    • @pep2st8p64
      @pep2st8p64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @flockawaka1017
      @flockawaka1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jim Kelly went with the next pick too

  • @brennansmith3343
    @brennansmith3343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    its crazy to imagine there was once a playoff game between The NY Jets and Cleveland Browns

    • @pullt
      @pullt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A great one, too.
      I'm 44 and that's the first real classic postseason game I recall watching.

    • @RalphReagan
      @RalphReagan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol!

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As well as the first Monday night game in the MNF era.
      Would have also been natural to open the 50th season in 2019 (also Odell's return to NY) but alas it wasn't til week two

    • @bugsyproductions3140
      @bugsyproductions3140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Young eh

    • @SkunkApe407
      @SkunkApe407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really. Not if you were born before the 1990's anyway.

  • @joedimaggio6261
    @joedimaggio6261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That was Joe Benigno who yelled "oh no"

  • @geemac7267
    @geemac7267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I feel bad for the guy. He was talented, seemed to work hard and have a good attitude. He just didn't have much luck evidently. Fumbling is a problem few backs ever seem to solve if it hits them.

    • @smitskee
      @smitskee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I use to follow the draft somewhat back then, and I was a fan of College Football. I never heard his name back then, as a Top college player to look for. Maybe Texas A&M was on probation in those days. However, the irony, back then I had heard of Christian Okoyo. There was this buzz about a 270 pound Fullback, with speed, from a Division II State School in Southern California. A guy who was running up 200 yards a game, that no one could tackle. I saw Okoyo score 3 touchdowns in the Senior Bowl, yet I still had not heard the name Roger Vick.

    • @bigchee8263
      @bigchee8263 ปีที่แล้ว

      He wasnt talented imo.

  • @EinTeufelskreis
    @EinTeufelskreis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "The most infamous draft pick in Jets history"?
    What about 1995 where the fans openly yelled for the team to take Warren Sapp and they took Kyle Brady? 🤔😅

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I agree

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teen_laqueefa pete rozelle's smirk at kyle being picked thou ...he was the goat at them smirks lmao rip pete

    • @A_YouTube_Commenter
      @A_YouTube_Commenter 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brady was never that good.

  • @flockawaka1017
    @flockawaka1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The way Roger Vick played ball in college would honestly translate well today in the NFL. He could make a very solid traditional tailback today.

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    BTW, the 49ers drafted a fullback in 1994 in the first round, William Floyd, who is still remembered fondly by many fans since he was a good player. So yeah, taking a fullback in the first round back then wasn't outlandish like it would be seen as now.

    • @jirikurto3859
      @jirikurto3859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The 49ers were absolutely loaded at the time and that was kind of a luxury pick at the end of the 1st round. Floyd had a few great years and then disappeared.

    • @TheAlfrulz
      @TheAlfrulz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Floyd was great early on. If it wasn't for that injury in 1995, he was on pace to be even better than his predecessor Tom Rathman.
      Floyd holds the distinction of being the last ever FB drafted in the first round.

    • @SamnissArandeen
      @SamnissArandeen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe for an 8-8 or better team with a good core in place, that needs a specific skill position to push them that bit further to greatness.
      The Jets needed a QB and receiving talent. Badly.

    • @dumisatonyjohnson8145
      @dumisatonyjohnson8145 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SamnissArandeen
      They already had a QB
      And they had Toon & Walker at WR
      In 1987

  • @pawel2669
    @pawel2669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ITs a shame it did not work out. He worked hard, and tried

  • @travismiller4320
    @travismiller4320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I wonder who “oh no” guy wanted the Jets to draft?

    • @holdenmcgroin9774
      @holdenmcgroin9774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      To this day that guy still lives in his mom’s basement and not a single date with a girl since 1987.

    • @robertpalin2161
      @robertpalin2161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@holdenmcgroin9774 sounds like my cousin

    • @jamaaljoseph4275
      @jamaaljoseph4275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Anyone but a fullback

    • @SurgingSpecs
      @SurgingSpecs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At least Jets fans knew who they wanted in ‘95. Hint: it wasn’t kyle brady

    • @ramuelcruzada3207
      @ramuelcruzada3207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SurgingSpecs WE WANT SAPP
      Jets: No, we ain't drafting that guy...

  • @brianhiedeman864
    @brianhiedeman864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Fullback position isn't what it once was, and honestly I would to see you do one on the last true Fullback in Mike Allstot of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

  • @chadwickwhite6107
    @chadwickwhite6107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Roger Vick wasn't the ONLY player MISUSED by the New York Jets and their front office.

  • @SteelerFanInRI
    @SteelerFanInRI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love how he spent the off-season working on his speed when it's like, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, BRO! You're a fullback who can't block or catch and you fumble too much! I guess he was counting on being so fast that nobody would be able to punch the ball out or something, despite at least one of those fumbles being an unforced error? Weird decision; I feel bad for this guy, as I do for every highly touted player who doesn't make it in the league.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you think about it, it's literally impossible for every player drafted in the first round every year to be good in the NFL, let alone great.

    • @smitskee
      @smitskee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DolFan316 I thought Vick was an ok player, but no way in hell a first round talent. The Jets for the most part, did suck at the draft. They would draft for need, instead of taking the best players on the board.

    • @TomG1555
      @TomG1555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DolFan316 There's studies that show that only about half of the 1st round players turn out to be good (i.e. eventual multi-year starters), much less Pro Bowl-level. The draft really is more of an art than a science.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Rozelle seemed to delight in trolling New York fans during the draft, as witnessed by him smiling as NY fans booed the selections of Phil Simms and Ken O’Brien. In fact, in 1983 Rozelle paused after saying “Quarterback” to give Jets fans a glimmer of hope they had drafted Dan Marino, before dropping the Ken O’Brien bomb on them.
    You did a video about the 1974 Draft the other day, and someone mentioned George Allen in a response. Allen, as Washington’s coach that year, traded the same first-round pick to both the Rams and Jets. Rozelle and the league had to make a determination of who got that pick. Once you understand how on occasions like this when Rozelle trolled NY fans, and the fact that he worked for the Rams before becoming NFL commissioner, it’s not a surprise that the pick was awarded to the Rams.
    OK, this may be overly conspiratorial, and Rozelle didn’t stay commissioner for 29 years while tipping the scales like my inner Oliver Stone suggested. But I still find it worth interest.

    • @mwt3579
      @mwt3579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not only did Pete work for the Rams before becoming commissioner, but he was drinking buddies with Carrol Rosenbloom, owner of the Rams who later became owner of the Colts. When the Dolphins signed Don Shula as coach, the Colts accused the Fins of tampering even though the Dolphins had worked out the deal with Rosenbloom's son. Rozelle helped out his buddy by taking the Fins first round pick away and giving it to Rosenbloom's Colts.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mwt3579 Now THAT was a conspiracy!!!

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If it had been me I would've given that pick to whoever Allen first traded it to. Seems like the only fair way to me. Once the first trade is made, the second trade of the same pick becomes null and void. So if the Rams had been the first team traded with I see nothing wrong with them getting the pick. And it seems likely that was the case, as Allen once had his team stocked with so many of his ex-Rams players that they were called the Ramskins.

  • @SteeleZack
    @SteeleZack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cornelius Bennett for some reason is not in the HoF.

  • @heliosapollyon4391
    @heliosapollyon4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm a life long dolphins fan and I miss the great old days when they would play the jets on Monday night football

  • @glenwest1911
    @glenwest1911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's sad for his career, this is the best video ever.

  • @joecarr5412
    @joecarr5412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now the fun part - the Jets are gonna draft yet "Another" QB in draft !! " Oh No !"😁🏈

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Paige wound up being so good for the Dolphins that I can forgive him for being a Jet.

  • @42tribes
    @42tribes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I could see a FB getting drafted in the first round today if they catch and block better than the TEs.

  • @nasetvideos
    @nasetvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember this one very well..."Oh No"; Most certainly words of premonition of things to come

  • @TheAlfrulz
    @TheAlfrulz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Giants did something similar just a few years later in 1991. The Giants drafted FB Jarrod Bunch late in the first round.
    The Giants were seemingly stacked in the backfield coming off a Super Bowl season. They had the aging but still productive Ottis Anderson. They had David Meggett, the closest thing the plodding Giants O had to a gamebreaker. And Rodney Hampton, their first round pick in 1990, and future franchise back.
    Bunch wound up being a bust, being done in by injuries and lasted only three years in NY. Statistically career wise, Roger Vick outperformed and lasted longer than Jarrod Bunch.

  • @ultrustic
    @ultrustic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now Jets fan yelled out "Oh No" whenever a TE get announced

  • @rjsweda
    @rjsweda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you got a lot of fun nfl videos, glad i found your channel :)

  • @AdamMaynes
    @AdamMaynes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro Montana, I love these videos. You're killing it.

  • @zeefly226
    @zeefly226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my favorite moments in draft history.

  • @Staceyatkinson4496
    @Staceyatkinson4496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Do a feature on that fan who shouted oh no

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Especially since he actually commented here.

  • @GREENBEANJETSFAN
    @GREENBEANJETSFAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! I loved this man. I'm gonna sub and beebop around your channel a bit. This is real work you put in and exactly what I was looking for this morning. thanks

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Allonzo Highsmith was a FB at Miami and was drafted third overall in 87. By the Houston Oilers. He blocked for running backs like Mike Rozier and the Oilers, first round pick in 88 Lorenzo white.

  • @lucaskincanyon7393
    @lucaskincanyon7393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here’s something interesting. In 2010, the final wildcard spot was decided based on strength of victory against Green Bay, Tampa bay, and the New York giants (all 10-6.) however, Green Bay won the tiebreaker with an astounding .475 strength of victory greatly overshadowing the other teams to eliminate them.

  • @freeparking301
    @freeparking301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Rozelle loved trolling Jets fans. The 1983 draft when he announces their pick the way he says “quarterback” making the fans believe Marino was coming right before dropping the bomb on them they were getting Ken O’Brian was pretty hilarious too.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't suppose this was his way of sticking it to Joe Namath's team?

    • @freeparking301
      @freeparking301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NJGuy1973 Never thought of it that way. The thought had to at least cross Rozelle’s mine.

    • @joetriolo9161
      @joetriolo9161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He should have thanked the Jets before they won the SB there was some uneasiness about the merger...so if you think about it Joe and Weeb saved his bacon.

  • @arizonawrestlinginterviews1040
    @arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roger Vick would resurface in the short-lived World League of American Football for the Orlando Thunder, and he was second on the team in rushing yards with 458 on 116 carries, averaging 3.9 yards per carry, and scored 4 touchdowns. The Thunder went 8-2 and captured the WLAF North American East Division Championship. They then blew out the Birmingham Fire in the semifinals before dropping a close one to the Sacramento Surge in the World Bowl.

  • @rich7787
    @rich7787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t understand why the fan yelled “oh no” since the video makes it sound like it was a reasonable pick that just didn’t pan out. Another great video

  • @stakknation123
    @stakknation123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Look how he's carrying the ball what's up with his RB coach?

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aside from the one play in this video, Vick was the one Jets RB from the late '70s to the early '00s who didn't slash, gash and bash my team. In 6 games he had just one other TD and ran for a total of 134 yards with 8 catches.

  • @jameslocopo4742
    @jameslocopo4742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From the era where the NFL nailed the draft…those drafts in NY with Rozelle announcing the names of the players were great. And when the Jets came up, it was glorious with the Jets fans letting the world know just how much they hated their pick (and for the most part, they were right) and Rozelle smirking his way through. It was pure theater rather than today’s over the top, artificial, ‘let’s create a moment’ that isn’t there, traveling carnival show of boredom.

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great story. Sucks for Roger Vick, and a lot of other guys in his position that seem to really give it their all, but at the end of the day you just aren't good enough to stick around in the NFL. But I guess that's life, and to Roger's credit he realized that with a positive attitude towards the end. Hopefully he didn't get too down on how his career played out. He got to play in the NFL, and making it that far is pretty remarkable in itself. It would have been worse if he was just a lazy yahoo that didn't try to excel.

  • @davidperrier6149
    @davidperrier6149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The next Fullback taken was Okoye.

    • @82dorrin
      @82dorrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a Broncos' fan, my favorite memory of Okoye is when Steve Atwater obliterated him.

    • @smitskee
      @smitskee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@82dorrin Okoye, was a great fullback, but I remember he started to get cocky as this unstoppable runner. Players like Atwater don't take lightly to shit like that. Steve, was great in his own right. He was clean, but he was mean. The first thing he'd clean ... was your clock.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That might have been the game that ended him, seriously I went back and watched Hawks/Chiefs (the Derrick Thomas......oh yeah and Krieg to Skansi too game) and Okoye had like 3.2 per carry going in, TF?

  • @P2thaR
    @P2thaR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The smile Pete Rozelle gives after announcing Kyle Brady to a round of boos at the draft is hilarious too.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was Tagliabue

    • @P2thaR
      @P2thaR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mgb4692
      Haha. I've done that before. I have a screenshot of the moment, so I know who it was, but I mixed their names again... 😖

  • @YTC1234
    @YTC1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tony Richardson was a first round pick and I’d say he has a borderline HOF career

    • @hezamachine
      @hezamachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tony Richardson was undrafted. As a rookie he was on the practice squad with the 1994 Dallas Cowboys.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much as Mack Strong, who spent his rookie year of 1993 (undrafted) on the Seahawks practice squad and then moved up when they traded John L. Williams

  • @jimmyturano5329
    @jimmyturano5329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great videos

  • @travis303
    @travis303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gawd I remember Christian Okoye. I had a poster of him on my wall as a kid. What a runner. Part of Marty ball

    • @alfonsogreen2722
      @alfonsogreen2722 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a shame that someone from a small school(Okoye) could have a better year than someone that came out of a big time football school(Vick). It's crazy

  • @bronxpinstripes
    @bronxpinstripes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Giants fan, I had the same feeling in 2018 when we drafted a RB at #2...and, again, in 2019 when we drafted a 3rd-round talent #6 overall. The Jets are not the only team in New York whose fans have had to endure some bone-headed decisions on draft day.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Barkley's a real deal though whether or not he bounce back from the injury is another matter.

  • @Salvatore1268
    @Salvatore1268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Commissioner Rozelle loved trolling Jets fans, he basically laughed at them when Ken o brien was drafted ahead of Dan Marino

  • @OhThankKevin
    @OhThankKevin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    in non-strike games the Jets dressed
    HB
    McNeil
    FBs
    Hector (part time)
    Vick
    Marion Barber JR (father of the future NFLer)
    Nuu Faaola
    Roster management was interesting in the 80s, in 81 the Jets had six RBs with at least 70 carries. Most played all 16 games.

  • @heliosapollyon4391
    @heliosapollyon4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I personally love using a traditional full back in my offense

  • @abcall-timesboxingchanneln7076
    @abcall-timesboxingchanneln7076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the only interesting thing that would have made this story interesting wasn't in this story and that was Roger Vick was Micheal Vick's dad.

  • @robertbluestein7800
    @robertbluestein7800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are wrong about Bruce Coslet having no ties "whatsoever" to Joe Walton. He was his Offensive Coordinator when Vick began his career and showed great patience in keeping him involved. The reason Roger Vick stands out is because the Jets had some stellar choices out of college at OT and CB and could have even traded down to get a few more picks. The Vikings would have made such a deal.

  • @omalley5196
    @omalley5196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn you showed the Bills about 10 times and I'd guess their jersey and helmets looked different 9 times.

  • @scottaznavourian3720
    @scottaznavourian3720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'The jets had one of their best seasons ever....10-6 lost in the division round'
    That about says it all...

  • @RoyalMela
    @RoyalMela 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although runningbacks are not the key targets in modern drafts, teams still draft 230lbs runningbacks in first and second round. Najee Harris, Leonard Fournette, A.J. Dillon ... and Derrick Henry. And Vick ran like most of them. Had speed and power and decent agility.
    Nowadays teams draft total of 4-5 runningbacks in 1st and 2 round together. When Vick was drafted, 7 in first round and another three in 2nd round. And two of then were fullbacks. Vick and Christian Okoye.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should look at the players drafted within 5-7 picks of Vicks- two turned in great OL- Bruce Armstrong and Harris Barton. But, the Jets had already drafted an OL in the first round in 86. So, that likely wasn't going to happen. The first pick in the second round in 87 was Nate Odomes who was a good DB for the Bills.

    • @smitskee
      @smitskee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it was the right thing to do, the Jets did the opposite.

  • @msarzo
    @msarzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's not forget the Jets also drafted Jeff Lageman, a defensive end, two years later and Pete Rozelle got a similar reaction after reading off that name!

  • @LEGOALEX97
    @LEGOALEX97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the biggest issue with this pick is that the backfield was arguably one of the places they could probably have skimped a bit on. The pass defense was fucking atrocious while the offensive line needed help at BOTH tackles.
    Put yourself in the shoes of that fan. You just watched the Jets make a decent playoff run, which had a good run D while being beyond terrible in pass D. But they did it, and the offense looked great at times, including QB Ken O'Brien and his backup Pat Ryan played well too.
    Then Bernie Kosar puts nearly FIVE HUNDRED YARDS on you, and sends you home packing.
    This team needs help. You can't have good seasons giving up 500 more yards than the next worst pass defense in the NFL. You can't rely on only running between the tackles.
    Rozelle comes out. You're hoping for someone to give some great help - maybe Harris Barton or Bruce Armstrong (both taken right after) at OT - maybe Nate Odomes at Corner.
    Fullback. He announces a god damn Fullback. Tony Paige wasn't good enough, and instead of paying him and drafting some help your front office decided to replace him.
    Oh no.

  • @tiddiesattic
    @tiddiesattic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Andre Tippett "The Next LT"🤭 appearance

  • @thomastexwilson7323
    @thomastexwilson7323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can always tell those who truly don't know the game and the positions. There was nothing wrong with picking Vick (Brian Thomas is right) (a high school teammate of mine) since he was a very good fullback who was actually a running back in HS and College. Fullbacks are blocking and valve players they are not typically your lead rusher or a massive output player. The only problem then was coaching not my friend Oogie.

  • @dumisatonyjohnson8145
    @dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New York selects…….Fullback
    Oh no 😫
    Roger Vick….Texas A&M

  • @curiositykilledthecat5118
    @curiositykilledthecat5118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in his defense, that o-line didn't block much. Those fumbles are indefensible though.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still not as bad or hilarious as Jet fans' reactions to them taking Kyle Brady 9th overall in '95.

    • @bryantthoresen6772
      @bryantthoresen6772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The best part about that is they already had two really good TE's on their roster (Johnny Mitchell and Fred Baxter), and had a real need at DT, but passed up on Warren Sapp to draft Kyle Brady.............hilarious..............

    • @barryrogers7554
      @barryrogers7554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't remind me. I was actually AT that draft when they did that. Unbelievable.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HEY WE TOOK BRADY😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

  • @rustykuntz94
    @rustykuntz94 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Def a disapointment but I gotta add he was a class act & good dude. As a kid I used to visit the Jets training camp at Hofstra College in the summer. I think it was 1988 he stopped to sign a autograph and even spent a few mins chatting with me & mostly my Uncle.

  • @heliosapollyon4391
    @heliosapollyon4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #1 rule as a carrier is hold on to the ball

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What's even worse is that Vick didn't even have the most rushing yards of a Texas A&M back from the '87 draft. That would be his teammate Rod Bernstine, who was somehow taken just 3 picks after by the Chargers despite only 443 yards rushing in college. Yes, you read that right. And yet in the NFL he ran for over 1700 more yards than Vick, with 83 more catches to boot.

  • @XtremeTony
    @XtremeTony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fullback or Halfback? The style of play in the 80’s was definitely way different than how it was played in the 90’s & 2000’s where the Fullback position was still a primary part of the offense.

  • @davezales9244
    @davezales9244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as a long suffering Jets fan this rings true ! I remember the pick and Vicks lack of productivity - Onzy Elam was another classic pick by the green and white - oh the pain. How do they pass on Greg Lloyd for Onzy !?

    • @troyc4250
      @troyc4250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dave you as a Jets fan deserve better. But at least you’ve been a fan and stayed with them. Hopefully Zach Wilson will work for your team. I think Darnold was wasted in his time with your squad...or maybe he sucks? We’ll see.

    • @smitskee
      @smitskee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Onzy was a third round pick. He was a speed pass rusher in college, and I guess they were thinking of using him in the 3-4. Did not work out, and Onzy did not stay in the NFL very long. Cannot really compare him to Greg Lloyd in the draft. Lloyd was a find for Pittsburgh. He was a late draft choice, that turned out to be a gem.

  • @threerings1345
    @threerings1345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A fullback with fumbleitis is not gonna last long, although 4 years is the avg. span of an NFL back's career.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He needs to do a video about Sammie Smith.

    • @nathandebartolo8330
      @nathandebartolo8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DolFan316 Ugh. I just want to forget..

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DolFan316 "How to Waste Marino's Career 101".

  • @bospats1
    @bospats1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:06…pronounced "Smur-less" not smear-loss. Keep up the good work 👍🏾

  • @carljacobson7156
    @carljacobson7156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roger Vick ran too tall for being a rather lighter weight Fullback.
    He ran fast like a Track athlete BUT it made him easy to pull/push off-balance, especially at the start of the play, when he hadn't been able to reach full speed yet.
    He also didn't cut or juke very well - again, from running too upright.

  • @josephmiller9424
    @josephmiller9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You will see a team used a fullback again now you see big running backs that are fullback with running back speed and you see threw time Larry Zonka , The Bus , Henry the Titan literally but Tampa Bay Alsott , bears Munster and so but you'll start to see the fullback slowly get put back in the offensive game plan.

  • @F40PH-2CAT
    @F40PH-2CAT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It looks worse today because even the existence of a defined fullback has all but disappeared.

    • @nathandebartolo8330
      @nathandebartolo8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some innovative OC will figure out how to use the fullback, score 500 points in a season and the position will be all the rage again. Just watch.

    • @F40PH-2CAT
      @F40PH-2CAT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathandebartolo8330 Is there any team left that regularly uses the I formation anymore?

    • @nathandebartolo8330
      @nathandebartolo8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@F40PH-2CAT Not to my knowledge.

  • @fredleeland2464
    @fredleeland2464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seems like he needed a RB coach to help with how he held the ball

    • @smitskee
      @smitskee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first thing he needed was a Head Coach, which the Jets had in name, but hardly in ability. Walton, probably would have put handles on the football, so Vick would not drop it. Of course with handles, O'Brien wouldn't be able to throw it.

  • @LegendaryDorkKnight
    @LegendaryDorkKnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:25
    Okay so I know he wasn't a show out star player, but that O-line let two dudes through almost before the QB even had a chance to hand it off.

  • @stephengrinkley9889
    @stephengrinkley9889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hell knowing the Jets, it wouldn't be surprising if they had drafted a 6 year old Michael Vick

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they actually got more out of Michael in 2014 than they got from three years of Roger

  • @Sangria
    @Sangria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10:30 That Hasty interception is a safety

    • @diaz5292
      @diaz5292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know. His momentum carried him into the end zone. Believe it or not the rules allow for something called the player's 'impetus' carrying him into the end zone, he can still take a knee for a touch back. So, idk. Would be interesting to see how they ruled on that.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In 85 they got a safety cause that happened with Louie Breeden, so Ken O'Brien will always have the rare achievement of "throwing a safety"
      Obviously the Ricky Watters play in 2000 changed everything, so that will probably stand for the rest of time

    • @Sangria
      @Sangria 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mgb4692 Good call. I just watched it. Summerall jinxed O'Brien with the "No interceptions thrown" line before the snap.

  • @hrmarkley9758
    @hrmarkley9758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i do have to point out....Keith Byars was a tailback at Ohio State, not a fullback, he became a fullback later in his NFL career, and Okoye played tailback in the Chiefs Single back/Ace Formation that so many teams ran in those days. These guys weren’t playing the same position as Roger Vick

  • @teto85
    @teto85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Life in the NFL.

  • @mrmajikjr
    @mrmajikjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vick didn't really play FB though. As you can see from most of his highlights in college, he played tailback, and was just listed as a FB because he was big.

    • @chrish931
      @chrish931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he was a fullback, A&M used a flexbone offense then, in the Flexbone your fullback lines up directly behind the QB and you have two halfbacks playing off the edge of the line like a tight end off the line or sometimes in the slot, and you run a lot of triple option out of it. One problem with the flexbone though is the fullback does not really lead block hardly ever, mostly running play fakes on running plays where he doesnt get the ball and often times doing the same thing on passing plays, he main purpose in the offense is serving as the first option in the triple option and taking the bulk of short yardage runs. Vicks problem was not being able to adapt to the pro style offense, he had no idea how to lead block out of I formations or split T pro set formations like most NFL running offenses used at the time.

    • @mrmajikjr
      @mrmajikjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrish931 None of this really matters. He didn't play the traditional "lead blocker" position that the NFL associates "fullback" with. He was a tailback in an offense that just refers to the tailback as a "fullback".
      It's like calling a slot receiver a running back because the offense calls them "Slotbacks"

  • @markfuller979
    @markfuller979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gee, I still miss the SWC.

  • @buster60341
    @buster60341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember Roger Vick when he was playing for the Jets but he was a bust in the NFL and the Jets organization don't know how to draft

    • @fredleeland2464
      @fredleeland2464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Worst drafting team in the history of the draft
      In the last 10 drafts ZERO first rounders have made it on the the Jets after their rookie contract

  • @Gmo-uo8gi
    @Gmo-uo8gi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll give him credit for his work ethic and his attitude. Unfortunately he couldn’t be an impact player in the NFL despite his best efforts.

  • @Rountree1985
    @Rountree1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do people so often forget that the commissioner always said the position before the name back in the 80s? He wasn’t trolling.

  • @thomascrowley9122
    @thomascrowley9122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first thing I think off when the Jets and 1st round. Is when they took a kicker in the 1st

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Here’s a good full circle with this video. Christian Okoye won the rushing title in 1989 over Barry Sanders by 10 yards. Sanders’ coach with the Lions, Wayne Fontes, asked if he wanted to go back into the Lions last game of the season against Atlanta to get the rushing title. The Lions had clinched the victory by this point. Sanders declined, letting another running back finish the game. That other running back? Tony Paige.

  • @gl0087
    @gl0087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done a video like this about Marc Wilson?

  • @karlcooper8460
    @karlcooper8460 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name of that little dreamy background tune I like it call me crazy.

  • @jamesmiller6217
    @jamesmiller6217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fred "SMEAR-laas". It's "SMER-liss".

  • @karlcooper8460
    @karlcooper8460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jim Kelly was truly class wasn't he?

  • @jaylew8408
    @jaylew8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't recall if I ever heard if the Barber brothers had a relative in the NFL , but apparently the jets at the time had a Marion Barber, so says the newspaper article he used in the video

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was their dad.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And 34 years later the Jets draft two Michael Carters

  • @robertlawrence4719
    @robertlawrence4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Roger Vick turned out to be a pretty decent player , then the Jets drafted a fb in the first round memes would never have been a thing . But since it’s the Jets and he was a bust , it’s a meme.

  • @tarnel9
    @tarnel9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This story so reminds me of Zach Wilson. A guy, with great potentia,l willing to do the work, but was so mistake-prone and lacked other necessary skills.

  • @beyondleftfield4470
    @beyondleftfield4470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Low key, this video makes me think his son having to live down to while still exceeding family legacy, would be Adrian Peterson

  • @dumisatonyjohnson8145
    @dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:25
    Vick loses the football in a critical game against Buffalo 🦬 at rich stadium 🏟
    (1988)
    Jets Fans- OH NO 😫 🤦‍♂️
    NY-6
    Bills-9

  • @georgemcfly3482
    @georgemcfly3482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roger Vick is clearly a Hall of Famer

  • @tylermathis-kx7pu
    @tylermathis-kx7pu ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if people jokingly say “oh no”when meeting him.

  • @andrewpadaetz5549
    @andrewpadaetz5549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rozelle did that 4 years earlier also: "NY Jets select QB......Ken O'Brien". Jets fans thought it would have been Dan Marino, who went to their hated AFC East rival in the Dolphins two picks later just a few months after their 14-0 loss in the AFC title game in a muddy Orange Bowl. #MoreBadDrafting

    • @andrewpadaetz5549
      @andrewpadaetz5549 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That 1986 playoff loss prevented what could have been an all NY Super Bowl had the Jets won and then beaten the Broncos in the AFC title game.

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why the hell would you draft a fullback in the first round?

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It seems ludicrous today, and trust me it was almost as absurd even back in '87.

    • @smitskee
      @smitskee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless his name was Jim Brown, who had speed and power, could run people over, make people miss, catch the football, and win you football games. That's not what they drafted.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the Jets.
      Even if Vick was legit, his career's death warrant was signed when the Jets drafted him.