Grading and Drainage
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Moving dirt and shaping the earth is a very important part of construction. In this video you'll learn about Graders, Scrapers, Loaders, drainage, and more.
Once the construction on this project is finished we'll start back up on the spec house series - thanks for sticking with us!
All of this dirt work on the project was done by Vellema Construction LLC out of Phoenix Arizona. Mitchell Vellema was excellent to work with and did an outstanding job. You can reach Mitchell at vellemallc @ gmail.com or send us an email through our website and we'll give you his phone #.
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Thank you, be safe, and be grateful.
Amuses me that you spend the time and effort to put up a fairly well crafted videos that offer outsiders to construction, logging, or blacksmithing some insight as to what is required to perform these projects...
...and then YOU thank US for sitting down and watching.
I find it refreshing this is a man that understands the value of time that we only have so much of it. Just one more thing that shows what a top class act he is. 👏👏
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If I’m not mistaken, his videos are monetized, therefore it is really no different than a movie or TV show producer thanking their viewers. More views equal more money. Not knocking him...he produces amazing content and I’ve been subscribed and watching and enjoying his videos since shortly after he started this channel, just pointing out a fact.
EC needs to pick up a side job narrating Ken Burns documentaries. I could listen to that guy all day!
Jason Sharris 😀Absolutely, he's a blue collar version cross between Shelby Foote, and Stacey Keach. or William Shatner narrating 'Rescue 911'.😅
Oh man, that'd be great. He's such a well-spoken man, too, they could probably let him _write_ the doc, too! ;)
And shades of Mike Rowe.
The other guys mentioned sound reasonable but let's leave Ken Burns out of this.
His name's Scott btw.
You can tell a contractor from an engineer by whether they will call earth/soil "dirt." I think there's no reason to pretend that civil engineer is a dignified profession when half of us just sit around all day thinking about dirt ;)
What in the world are you yammering on about Super T Rev? Is the Lizardmen Reverse Vampire Illuminati hot on your trail?
Practical Engineering - In logging road construction around here, soil/dirt and rocky dirt is called “material”.
The other half are just writing proposals...
Practical Engineering Holy cow! Am I an engineer? Must be the tomato juice drank from lead cups! ;)
Practical Engineering So many civil engineers are so inside their head (read ass) that-they miss what’s important. I’ve fixed many engineers screw ups. Not one has admitted there mistakes. Get on a piece of equipment and learn something. Your profession would gain a lot of knowledge and respect. Their should be a part of every engineering curriculum that includes labs that deal with the hands on practical implication of what they are studying. Soils, compaction, and all the variations . It’s an art. The standard of frequency testing needs to be revised.
You have done a great job explaining a process that is more complicated then most people realize. Its always fun to watch heavy equipment work. I especially enjoyed the footage of the butter knife working on the toast set to the sound of an engine, not sure why, but I loved it.
Your channel is a wealth of information at all times. Yet is presented in a fashion that yields itself, to me at least, as relaxing. You and Nate have struck a balance brilliantly and I cannot thank you enough for the college of life education you put out for everyone to enjoy should they choose. I am a proud and satisfied Patreon of you two and am always delighted to see what you have taken the time to produce. A thousand times thank you.
All that extra work from those homes drainage to your lot is crazy .
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone in the comments wondering why they have to worry about water in AZ.
Well if anyone is wondering, they usually don't get water, except during monsoon season, when a single storm will flood everything in no time.
Code states that industrial properties have to retain and drain the water that would be deposited on site during a 100 year 2hr storm event.
Atleast that is what the engineers had to design for at the property that I had developed in the same county.
How do you determin for how much each property owner pays for the cost of grading and drainage?
In Az they do not get much Total Rain but what they get happens in Monsoons as they all them and then there are not a lot of geographic or vegetative features to capture or slow the flow of water, hence the term flash floods
what do you mean by a 100 year 2hr storm event?
@@johnmoran1548 I was told by someone it was to control the dust to limit exposure to the fungus therein that causes valley fever.
When I first looked at your videos I could never have guessed how you would take me on a journey of things that I think of being obvious mixed with an eclectic mix of new knowledge and a further appreciation of Craftsmanship!
Thank you!
Great video Scott, I don't think I have ever watched a video on your channel and NOT learned 5 new things. Really appreciate you're willingness to share years of experience with you're viewers.
Great video. I've really enjoyed these informative videos about equipment. I am a furniture maker and at times a carpenter, but I am what you may call a fool addict and love learning about tools from every trade. Thanks for your videos and knowledge. Cant wait for the next one.
Nice that you give a shout out to the excavator. Too often us subs get ignored and the contractor takes all the glory. Love this series and the details you extrapolate on. Real world work is always fascinating to me, especially on jobs that are out of my wheelhouse. Cheers! PS, how is the spec house coming (that one is totally IN my wheelhouse!)?
I used to work for a top 5 GC in the country and I hate when the PM's or even engineers say "they are building or built " The GC managed the project, and the engineer designed it. The people who built it are the subcontractors who operated the machines and physically framed the walls. The Project engineers/P.M's walk the site less than half of the time, and spend 3/4's of their time in the Conex on managerial/administrative tasks lol. I work for a spec builder now, and the Construction managers are considered the builders, when all they do is schedule trades/inspections. They then take credit and say they "built" the homes, when all they did was set up the permit box, and call an inspector.
I've watched all these machines working a new development next door to me. Good stuff
Here in ND we call it a "payloader". That's what I do all day long, drive a sidedump or tandem dump truck as the job may require to haul in or out material. For both commercial & residential jobs! Anything from road, commercial building sites, to home construction excavation & back-fill/finish dirt work.
Ron Dunn “ bat tree and you bet cha” great job! Belfield descendant.
I called them payloaders as well. To me a loader is a bobcat. Have too many friends from Gwinner that corrected me on calling bobcats the wrong thing.
Damn dude I didn't know anyone was in North Dakota. So you two call it a "payloader" huh? Interesting.... LoL
this video took me back in time to old grading jobs. Excellent job naming each equipment. Also appreciate having some drawings to look at.
Thanks for you're general genuine on the ball human way of explaining what you know kind, sir. props to the film guy 'm never bored watching your videos. This channel should be binge watch approved if theres such a thing.
thumbs up for the sound effects on the butter analogy
I never knew that's why the blade is in the middle of a grader but it was obvious once you stated it
Its grate having you as part of are TH-cam experience!
The scraper and grader are rather "plane", aren't they...
Its a pleasure to watch a good operator.
7:43 that's a POWERFUL butterknife!
Great video but from now on i will have to stop myself from making engine noises whenever spreading any kind of butter ^^
na just go with it, spice breakfast up a little
Hey man, That was funny.
Thank you, that's so funny!!! 7:42 love the sound effects and visual!!! :D
What sounds will you make when sprinkling on the cinnamon?
snjairbeater this one th-cam.com/video/7AamNeGbtvU/w-d-xo.html ;)
Nate, I enjoyed seeing the butter knife analogy! It was perfect!
The toast video was cool but as far as analogies go I think a grader is much more like a wood plane.
“Don’t you love to play with the language while talking about construction.” Gotta love this channel.
Just finished up a 64,000 cubic yard athletic field addition. We moved 6-7,000 yards a day with a dozer, 2 excavators and three off-road dump trucks. I was thinking, “that’s crazy to use all that equipment for 900 yards,” but I guess with the circumstances that’s the best way to do it. Oh! Btw, in NC we call the “scraper” a Pan and the “Grader/Blade” a Motograder.
think he said they had 900 yard extra to export, assume they actually moved far more then that around and imported a bunch of gravel
Yeah well you all eat pickled chicken too,and that's just not right either. LoL
Love the toast analogy
We use to have a tumble bug out at the farm, that we use to pull behind the tractor, that works like the fresno, that you described.
Ok so I actually use those same sound effects when I butter my toast. Great Video, love the explanation of "don't know why its this way but it is so we have to deal with it and move on and get the job done".
Love the video.
You probably get asked a lot, but do you have approximate date when the house build continues?
When it's done, I don't think you'll be able to find a playlist that's more streamlined, more professional; better explained; with greater attention to details than your house build playlist.
That's why I want to see the rest of the story.
Heck, I've got family on the Northwest coast - I'm waiting for the housewarming party!
No brainer! I just subscribed. Thanks for your videos
7:42 love the sound effects and visual!!! :D
Interesting...had no idea of what's involved in a project like this. Thanks for sharing...
Really enjoy the videos
Grading jobs can be alot of work. I am a Geo tech and have been on a grading job for the last 4 months watching 12 challengers dragging 2 pans laying dirt, a D8, and 2 D6 with gps units.
Thank you again for this video to widen my knowledge although construction is not my business. I really appreciate it.
Very well done
Here in the Caribbean we would have done all of that with a backhoe, we are terribly inefficient people, everything is, yeah that'll work. Seeing proper work like this being done almost at a surgical precision level is very therapeutic.
Hey you do what you can with what you got
I was 4k . Great video and info as always !
I remember I had a toy grader when I was a kid and I thought it was so cool. For some reason I always assumed it moved in the opposite direction than graders actually do. I even had people tell me I had it backwards but in my mind I just thought it looked better going the other way.
Thank You Very Much
Probably one of the hardest machines to get good at
I work in rock music. Our "mothership" IS one of those "rental yards" for stage decking and trusses and winches and what have you, just like contractors rent their gear from big ownership yards. Same contract/rental system!
Found Nates website, looks like it will be really nice when complete👍
Great wisdom. Thanks!
Great job
It's as if this site that Nate's working on was a natural (or artificial as a result of previous ...decisions/screw-ups) swimming pool or pond and now he's the unfortunate soul who has to deal with the red tape to design a proper solution for drainage. the neighboring properties should all be thanking you guys for solving their problems. :)
That's the life of a property developer - that's where he earns his corporate jet.
Great. Now I need some toast!
I'm in an excavation equipment yard with 3 BIG scarpers 2 D9's a "Blade and all the other goodies as I watch this nice video lol......Excellent narration....regards
You guys using GPS ? Played around with a d61 and 360 for a day one.
The diesel sounds while buttering toast made me laugh out loud.
Everybody complains about the law and lawyers, until the time they need them, then, the law is great and fair and their lawyer becomes their best buddy.
Good points, but how is the individual supposed to defend himself from the abuses of the govmnt and the big companies?
if there is no government, the corporations become the government, and good luck having any kind of say in what they do at that point, without government regulation any company could literally own you, your house, and the wallet you vote with.
All your videos are really great, but I have to be honest I can't wait to return to blacksmithing/metal videos. I have worked in construction and earthwork all my life and these vids are too close to work for me. lol None the less thank you for this awesome channel.
i love grader work and dozer work, wrking on tryin to buy an allis chalmers D
Nice video always enjoy leearning new things on you videos.
Nice loader in the back ground. I would for John Deere.
Great explanation Scott! Love the intelligence that you explain with great detail these operations. Thanks for the videos... you and Nate make a great team generating great content! perfect for sitting and watching with a cup of coffee on a rainy weekend morning when its difficult to find the motivation to get out there and fire up for the day!
Damm that guy on the grader is good
thanks awesome
I have never learned so much in such a short time! Thank you very much! Do you guys ever work with Non-Disclosure Agreements?
The amount of controls the blade has is insane...
H is a bit of an older girl, but man they were money-making machines. They are 4 versions down now.
Here's a rough trick for Cat graders- 120= 12' wide moldboard. 140= 14' moldboard. 160= 16' moldboard. There are a larger class where they drop the 0, but you will very rarely see a 12, 14, 16, 18, and certainly not a 24 on a contractor site.
Please show how you'll work the corners next to the wall.
Interesting that the block wall was installed prior to the earthwork. What is the reason for this sequencing?
cool stuff
Interesting fact: in 'Dutch' we call a loader, a shovel (we pronounce it 'show-vol'). So we use an English word, and in English the thing has a completely different name.
To think that a relatively simple project like this took two years to get permits for! Is this usual or was it due to the special drainage conditions?
Class
Not sure if you mentioned this, but why exactly are you removing all that dirt? Is it to create a catch basin?
Always like the Machine called The Sheep's Paw, love that name.
Not sure if I have ever seen being used here in Britain, but then I don't work on a construction site, and, well, it is Britain, so nature normally solves the water issue for us.
I was eating toast while watching this.
If that site to the north was developed in the 70s, chances are it was designed before the Clean Water Act and may have been subject to less strict requirements. I may be wrong, but I think the more stringent measures for water control nowadays are not so much driven by fear of litigation. Instead we must keep track of where the water should go to prevent pollution, erosion, and general disruption of natural lands and make sure it doesn't pick up any contaminants before being let back into the natural water systems.
Down here in the south, NPDES/Stormwater pollution is a big thing. We can't start mass grading a site until the engineer of record furnishes a 7 day letter stating that all the phase 1 erosion BMP's/ponds are in. In Alabama though it is the complete opposite, developers get away with no silt fence or stabilization on the lots. Inspectors just don't care.
What are we building again? Why did we pick this location? Hmm?
A storage facility, and presumably because the land was appropriately located for customers and at a reasonable price.
Maricopa County, Arizona was a wasteland in the seventies, with little to no regulation nor regard for the future. The county has learned from its mistakes and now requires sane building practices. It’s not that we’ve become more litigatus, though some people do run to a lawyer first; it’s that government needs to set ground rules once a population reaches the density that the Phoenix Valley has.
I concur, this location was not within the Mesa city limits until about 20 years ago. 40 or 50 years ago this was the 'wild west' as far as zoning was concerned. Real estate developers literally ran the state back then and passed laws that was beneficial for them with little or no regard for everyone else. It has slowly changed over the last couple of decades. The city has also found out that selling building permits can be a lucrative business.
Thought comes to mind, the old adage, "HI I am from the government, I am here to help" 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 run for the hills
One word, "Payola"!
Oh cool, I love Pheonix!
(See Prior Comment)
In Ireland the company that makes the loader ( Deere) is called John Deere... so I’m assuming that the name came for the owner of the company 👍
Things changed because over-development and too much impervious surface these days. But good video. Thanks.
I am sorry you had to deal with the county.
Butter toast! Lol
So they give you free water from the hydrant for construction?
@@essentialcraftsman I see it now. I totally missed that the first time I watched it. Thanks for the reply! Love your videos :)
Maintainers where I Live
A scraper can cut to grade
You have to share the story of how that passenger door got a huge rip in it.
Something tells me a yellow piece of iron was involved...
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Id have to guess its something to do with that water valve there.....
Diesel Powered toast!
We call scrapers "Chicken Picker"
I have a question unrelated to this video's subject Scott, I need a miter saw, but do not have the budget to afford a super high priced Makita/Milwaukee/Dewalt/Bosch. Would a cheaper Ryobi or Ridgid make cuts accurate enough for a beginner weekend woodworker to build all kinds of projects (repair/update kitchen cabinets, library, desk, etc) or do I really need to put the big money in?
Beginner? I would recommend Harbor Freight. Their stuff is better than most people realize and a great value. I've seen using the miter saw I bought from Harbor Freight for 10 - 15 years now and it's still going strong.
Just make sure you buy a good blade. Cheap blade with to many teeth won’t cut nice. Get a fine tooth
Thank you very much guys.
I keep getting told that I need a high grade miter saw because otherwise the angles and such will be crap and I'll end up buying a more expensive one after a few 39 degree 45 degree miters....
I will make a few dozen cuts a month at best, since it's a hobby /way to build better furniture than what I can buy. Already have a circular saw and a 40 T Diablo blade on it to make butter smooth cuts, but doing miters and proper 90 degree crosscuts with it and without having properly squared lumber...makes it a long process of measuring and setting up 15 minutes per cut...
I'm on the wrong side of the frontier for proper Craigslist and Harbor Freight access though, I'm in the land of forever winter up north (southern Quebec, but far north compared to you)
I live in Europe and I'm also a beginner.
I recently bought an old B&D DeWalt saw at an online auction and it was very cheap (150€) compared to even used ones in classifieds.
I've seen a lot of contractors that win larger contracts often buying the equipment specifically for that job and then selling it fast and reckless when the job is done, just to get rid of it.
But in general, start with what you can afford, see how it goes, whether it pays itself out (either in pleasure of working with it or new furniture you build or actual money if you do a job for someone else) and go from there.
Check out yard sales as well. My wife got a Toyota (really) sewing machine for $5
Auto-generated Captions are disabled on your videos now? 😭😭😭
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The "Loader" I know as a longer name of Front-End Loader
Not all loaders are front ended
Big gash in that brand new superduty... breaks my heart
A hand plane is a far better metaphor for the grader. I call these smart tools - the tool on its own has the ability to make things straight or flat. I call a belt sander a stupid tool since it just removes material wiilynilly.
That book has been in my book case for many many years - thin but rich. The kind of book where each time you pick it up something fresh jumps out.
If it took two years, it could only be in California!
At the end you told that the job is in Phoenix. It took two years because Arizona has been flooded with California refugees. Perhaps you need some flood gates at the border before you are flooded any worse.
If a contractor does a lot of work with a piece of equipment, wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy rather than rent? Think of buying vs renting a house. Of course, he passes the cost on to the customer and can always have nice new equipment to work with when he rents.
I guess the cost to maintain a piece of equipment far exceeds the cost of renting it. I don't know though.
Depends on how many weeks of the year he needs that piece of equipment, doesn't it...
Sure, a week of rental might pay for a month of ownership, but it sure won't cover a whole year...
It depends on how often they use it, whether they do a lot of similar sized jobs, travel distance, and even regulations on what size equipment you can bring down the road and what roads you can take. The guy might have a bigger loader at home, but would have to either travel far or get an approved route for oversized equipment. Or maybe he has a smaller one that doesn't really fit the job size.
Otherwise you will need like 3-4 different sized excavators, 2-3 different dozers, 2 different frontloaders, different backhoes, different skidsteers, ect. costing potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars each, while only using like 1/10 of the equipment at a time.
Why you not working in this place only you speak front camera
Potato bread? My man, life is too short for wheat.
Well all right. I came here thinking maybe I could learn something about the actual process. You know what the numbers on the sticks,and pegs represent;you know any little bit of info to satisfy my curiosity,But what I really learned is that this is basically a commercial,and you're a long winded hype man for a excavation company.
How was the adjacent property allowed to create such adverse conditions?? Hmmm......
I've been involved in commercial construction projects since the late '70s. Every project, no matter it's size, needs to be responsibly engineered. My experience, though, is that whenever any political body is involved (no matter it's size), that project will invariably become at least three times as complicated as it needs to be, and costs skyrocket!! Happy to be retired.
Why do they put so many wheels on a dump truck?
And there are also the laws of physics that either require more wheels/axles or bigger wheels/axles to handle the weight, traction and torque require to move dirt and make tight turns.
How do the wheels/axels work? Never had any experience with them other then seeing them drive down the road.
Your work is currently being tested by Hurricane Rosa. I hope that your plans work well.
There's a construction site that's been going on near me for a few years now where they should be using water on their dirt but they don't. To make matters worse they run their sweeper and make a dust bowl for everybody to drive through and get there cars filthy. It makes me mad every time I see them.