@@JJohnson313 Beans was under rocafella and Dame and Jay were going through a break up and they put beans and many other in-between their issues. Now artists have to be choosing sides. If an artist doesn't choose my side, it's a betrayal. So on and so on. That's all BS. That's issues for Jay and Dame to work out. Neither was ready too. In addition, Dame wanted Beanie to choose his side without even giving a business plan. Without explaining to him the direction he wants to take the brand. It's all purely emotional. It wasn't good business.
Let’s be honest.. Nobody really talk bad about Dame when it came to business and he was fighting for his artists career in them rooms with Lyor, Kevin lyles and the rest of them corporate executives.. Dame was fighting like Tyson for his guys and nobody ever said he was a bad CEO to them.. check all the rocafella artists interviews bout him NOT 1 time..
Bean said a couple years ago he saw the angle dame was taking and he wasn’t being genuine now granted beans used to be high as a kite back then but he didn’t said “ he saw dame angle & it wasn’t genuine “ he said dame told him he could work with jay n bleek anymore
It doesn’t matter either way cause The B Coming came out on DDMG in 05 and didn’t even go gold. Dame was never going to make it in the music business without Jay.
No that just a human being trait that can happen in any ethnicity dont generalize. Im probably one of the few when im right i confess to being wrong. But of course when im right i will make my point and not without being subjective or turning something into competition than actually sound judgment. Being wrong is just as as important in growth than standing for something.
@@dharris2715 Him leaving would’ve been being disloyal to Jay snd Jay is the one who signed him in the first place. If you’re going to he disloyal regardless you might as well do it in the best situation.
Its business too wtf you saying of course they gotta promise something are you ok ? They not family they met in a music business setting ! They hooked up with Beans because he had talent ! They didnt grow up with him
"dame was more accessible. dame was in the office every day. dame used to come chill on the block in philly..." Dame actually said all of this too lol. He said that Jay was never around and he was always there. it does add up.
@@Jemreaux bc he's unapologetically honest and has had a reputation for being an a-hole. but i think he knows hes right so he stands firm in it and it upsets ppl.
Jay-Z was too busy being a famous rapper, with several successful businesses = Jay-Z's WAY smarter than Dame + didn't waste ALL of his money on dumbs**, like Dame did
He said Dame picked him up from jail and said He wnted him to be with Dash music group and Beans said he did not want to choose, then turned around and said he never had those conversations. Thats because you stopped them when he tried to have them.
I'm from Alabama, with cousins from Cleveland & Pittsburgh, and we all rocked State Property very heavy. The only thing I didn't like about the brand is they didn't have a lot of clothing geared towards women. Rocawear and other brands such as Marc Echo, Enyce, and Girbaud did cater to women as well. But State Property didn't. I'm pretty sure had the brand lasted, they would've ended up making a womens line too.
How about if your homie is about to burn down what you all built and y'all keep telling him to chill out and his ego keep saying fuck that we untouchable when you know your not, then what??????
Bro but Jay had more going on. After 2005 Dame was pretty much irrelevant tbh. Plus Dame Dash Music Group was an independent label. Jay was the president of Def Jam. As a rapper who would you choose?
“…….. Stay cased up nigga, stay deep in court Reminiscin' on that cold cell, deep in thought Gettin' skinny, couldn't eat, cause the meat was pork Ya'll niggas couldn't live my life, I've been through it Streached up in hospital beds, fed fluid Two bullets hit my leg, one passed through it Saw the blood and the hole in my calf, looked through it………”
3:53 the things he was doing was already Dames plans meaning Roc-A-Fella /State Property clothing etc. Jay wasn't active with Beans at all regarding business.But Beans saw how they were starting to sideline Dames plans & he jump ship to the "winners" side. Then got sidelined himself.
They respect each other but they’re not friends. Apparently dame snaked beanie by stealing beanie’s advance money that he unknowingly had sitting in a bank account. Dame stole from beanie, Dame stole from Jay, Dame stole from Bigs, and Dane stole from roc a fella where he’ll call you a traitor when you finally had enough and leave him. He’s one of the most important figures in music history but he was greedy and conniving during the roc era, despite what he preached about him “fighting for artists”. He means well but dame have multiple personalities that always results in a long distance/no relationship with nearly everyone he’s ever worked with
Beans doesn’t have any real smoke with anybody he pretty much forgave all parties involved and accepted his role in his stagnation. I don’t think he’s on bad terms with Dame or Jay.
if you were offered to come with him and you declined, what more is there to talk about? it's common sense that he would have a plan for your career. that's what he's been doing 🤦smh
@@tony4534 that's why you have wax in your ears. he said he wanted to be neutral. being neutral and "convince me" don't go together. end of discussion.
@@mizziti Staying neutral means he wanted to keep his options open. Why would he commit to going with Dame if Dame isn’t giving him a reason to go to him?
@@donaldbren181 not giving beans a business plan or details on the direction he wants to take the brand was definitely wrong on Dame's side. What Dame wanted was to get one up on Jay.
Beans respectfully you definitely didn’t stay neutral. If you stayed neutral, “The Solution” album would’ve never been released under Jay if that was the case. You would’ve been better off saying you chose the better opportunity. We would’ve somewhat understood it because by 07, Dame wasn’t as visible in the music industry whereas Jay still had power. Dame put Beans in a position that no non platinum artist ever made it to. Movies, cartoons, clothing line and etc. Dame did that, not Jay. Just say you was only loyal to whoever was giving you an opportunity to be up. Say what you want about Kanye but he kept it all the way real on why he chose Jay
You gotta realize Jay was good at brainwashing them. Think about it even Young Chris don’t speak ill of him or Peedi. Jay was like the big homie but he was only out for himself. Blocked Sigel when he wanted a release to sign with G-Unit. They had to much respect for Jay and he used them all to launch his career.
@@theseal9402 ehhh I agree and disagree. Jay was indeed for himself. That I can agree with. But I can’t say he brainwashed them. I think for every Young Chris that chooses to let the past be the past, there’s an Oschino who can’t wait to get in an interview and spew his thoughts to anybody that’s willing to listen. He’s been bashing Beans for years and that’s his choice. Some people choose to be messy while others just charge it to the game and move on with life 🤷🏾♂️
Naw jay didn't ruin beanie's life. Beanie was his own man and did things his way. That's all it was. Beanie is still alive and his future is still bright.
Jay did ruin him. He blocked him from getting money and signing with G-Unit. He would’ve never been in Jersey to get shot. Things Jay did played a part in Sigel downfall.
@@theseal9402the airhead conspiracy theorists again. “Dame made millions, Biggs made millions Ye made millions, Just made millions Lyor made millions, Cam made millions Beans'a tell you if he wasn't in his feelings” jayz
Beans was loyal 2 a default....i think Jigga was in beans head more than he like to admit compared Dame being a sure shot for keeping State Property Alive tho .....But Beans got sidetracked by loyalty but not for himself when shit got ugly
If Dame was a “sure shot” then why didn’t Dame Dash music group blow up to become anything? And what was stopping him from still launching the State Property clothing brand? Come on now
@@whatwhat9004 You niggaz be real life goofies like fr fr. Clearly Dame got blackballed by Lyor Cohen and the dude you groupies hate on for Jay. Dame went on created Rachel Roy company 100 million dollar company.
Jay Z was going to make sure those extravagant visions Dame had for Beans weren't going to come true😂. Beans was serious competition. The streets were loving Beans during those ROC A FELLA days! Mad love from NYC!
@Nottheopps he aint turn it dwn he knew ye like to talk. An i promise u My house is bigger an pockets fatter than beans right now. He's always i'm Virginia trust me he a regular guy like us
Beans been on record saying Dame owed him close to 11 milliom dollars from the money from State Property clothes. he also was on record saying he was mad at Dame for putting out The Becoming album while he was locked up. why he aint mention that this time
@KingStreetBrody No. Beans has said it on video. It's probably one google search away. They've all been chatty patties except Jay and Tata. Dame is even on video admitting to stealing money from Rocafella.
One came to your court cases and picked you up from prison and the other wouldn’t tell the judge he would make sure you stay out of trouble 🤔 ! And you went with the one who didn’t help you and shelved you ! Good decision making
@Heatlandheed, you won't read a book, and now you have a video with someone explaining the situation, and you still don't understand what the person said. Let me help you out here. He didn't pick a side; he stayed neutral; Dame didn't reach out to him to tell him his plans and Dame clearly made a lot of things up in the conversation because he knew people like you are out there who will believe anything, even when you have the truth in front of you.
@@stanleyonyejiaka9348 But even Beans is not exactly sure what he remembers. Be honest, does he look or sound like a man that remembers things from 20 years ago?
Beans was the real deal. I used to hang out in south Philly in the early 2000s I would see him at the clubs in Delaware ave. Def lived what he rapped about
Bro just keeping it neutral... at the sametime proving Dame was right... but he not trying to close a door just incase... but if you can read in-between the lines... you know
@@Stvn3200 I doubt he's getting that big of a bag. The only thing he can speak on is his past business ventures with Jay Z, nothing else. Everyone kinda over it now after he milked it entirely. Adam22 asked him to come on and he asked for $500 for transportation. He not getting to no money.
Can the man that's the actual driving force in the matter be recognized for his role because I don't see where Dame needed Jay-Z... Dame made us believe in Jay-Z by actually standing up for another and taking the artist talent and actually creating revenue off it! How about this? What about when Jay-Z didn't have Dame...Did you LIKE JAY-Z?? The Hawaiian dude?! I didn't. His style, the whole vibe, would have never happened without Dame! But y'all want the game for FREE!!! JAY-Z the person is Cornyyyy. He took what he watched Same do and then once he understood it and was made a offer he then BEGAN TO CLONE HIMSELF AFTER DAME BUSINESS WISE BECAUSE THEY CUT DAME'S THROAT AND SWEET TALKED JAY-Z TO BE BETTER OFF BY REMOVING the immature Dame from the situation. Yes, I said it! DAME'S inability to professionally mature really did it for him like many men before him. The brains gets targeted and like the pyramids in Egypt....we can't believe how simple... something that would reach so far.. Shiddddddd.....lol
@@dennislawson4497 yea ppl forget that Jay would have gave up on rap if not for Dame. Jay wasn’t going to get signed and Dame pushed him to keep going and switch his style up. I believe Dame’s downfall wasn’t his lack of maturity, it was his lack of “going along to get along.” Ppl knew Jay would play the game so they convinced him to drop Dame so they could get more $ out of Jay for themselves. Had Jay & Dame worked it out they’d be bigger than UMG and all these major labels plus running liquor companies, clothing, etc.
Jay said 20 plus years ago “Beans I ain’t trying to change you, just give you some game. So you can make the transition from the streets to the fame” And yall in the comments talking about “look who picked him up from jail” Had he listened to Jay he woulda never been in jail in the first place.
That doesn't change the fact that Jay did nothing with him when came out of jail. Jay went in a completely different direction with his new roster of artists in Roc Nation. Lets not act like he would've had Beans on a label with Rita Ora, Rihanna etc. and all his other watered down Roc nation artists- he sold out the culture- it is what it is.
I’ve slowly come to realize the art of dialogue is the real thing!! n I now fully support and endorse this brother.. vlad trailblazed the way but how you been goin label to label breaking down what went on from the artist perspective and surrounding talents is giving an true insight into what went on with our favorite artist… after this roc a fella break down I look forward to cash money or ruff ryders breakdown and hope you gain the notoriety to get Motown artist to break down what really was goin on behind the scenes
I can understand Beans wanting to stay neutral. He made some dope songs with Jay and wanted to maintain that relationship. Obviously Dame did alot for him so he wanted that type of support too. It's like when a couple breaks up and friends are put in a position to choose a side.
Your just as ignorant as that dude in your avatar pimp c........ how many times do people have to tell you beans wasn't a leader he was a soldier, dude didn't know what to do for state property........ even oschino said beans should have never been the leader of state property, and that it would of been better with another member as the leader....
You must be young Beans had Label Clothing line Was 2 movies as the head lead 2 Bentleys Beans fucked up his own career because he couldn't leave the streets alone
I once found myself in a similar situation. I chose to stay neutral but it appeared to both my friends like treason but what they didn’t understand is that my position meant wisdom cause for the love I had for both of them I couldn’t lean on on side and turn my back to the other. 20 years later we’ve got to meet and talk it all to clear it up and before I speak they both stopped me and told me they realized that I truly loved both of them and there was no point in choosing one over the other. Now we’re back strong as before and our kids play together and call each other cousins.
You missed the entire point and took advantage of this video to tell us an irrelevant life story. If one friend (like in this context) blatantly betrayed and disrespected another. To which I choose to stay neutral, then I don't love either one. Why? Because love is tough AND love is protective. I have held friends accountable when they are in the wrong because I love them. If I justified their behaviour by not doing anything (staying neutral), then I would be doing them a great injustice for they would live their lives thinking that they were the victim. Your context could be entirely different. One person may have made a small mistake and the other may have responded disproportionately which could have ultimately led to a complex situation that would have justified your neutrality. This wasn't the case.
Exactly. If Sigel is saying that he would have gone with Dash if he knew what he knows now then he should do it now. Probably not music, but there are plenty of other things they could do.
What is biggie heights?? Claiming to be a playa but PAC smashed his wife 😂 Beans put out more albums than biggie. Only NYC people think big of biggie lol the whole world thinks BiG of PAC!
State Property had a lot of hot pieces. Especially their Jackets. Also, if Dame was more accessible and was pulling up to your mom’s crib? Dame was the obvious choice to go with. Sad what happened to rocafella.
Jay was never around because he was always making moves while the rest are chilling on the block. Of course jay gonna leave everyone in the dust if they don’t have the same ambition
Knowing 2Pac, if he had lived, he would've worked with Jay-Z and Dame. They had common enemies in Nas & Mobb Deep. I could see Suge working with Dame Dash and I think Suge actually liked Jay-Z as an artist. It would've been 2Pac & Jay-Z on a Watch The Throne album and eventually Jay-Z & Biggie would've been beefing for that top NY spot
.....And saying you had big plans for someone and never telling them was a bad decision on Dame's part. Dame will say he didn't want to deal with rap when it makes him look bad, and he will say he had big plans when it's something that could make him look good.
Jay knew beanie was talented he knew Chris was talented . He got beanie and shelved him and dame knew what beanie could have been . That’s what’s dame meant . He was going to be a new hov
If we don’t know these people in real and wasn’t there, all we can do is go by the people that lived it. Dame seem like he just want to blame Jay for everything, and he did everything perfectly because I don’t see Dame taking accountability for nothing
The most annoying things about these newer interviews is the comments from the uninformed people who either just discovered Hip Hop or are clueless! Beans nor Dame doesn't mention the fact that him & Beans fell out over supposed millions of dollars Beans felt Damon owed him! As a man who lived through that era keep it a Buck, if you hate Jay-Z just say that but if you are only listening to 1 side of a story how are you getting the truth?!?! 🤷🏽♂ When Biggs was locked up Damon did interviews saying a bunch of people owed Biggs etc.... Biggs gets out of jail & every interview he gets asked about it & he said in each interview "He didn't know what Damon was talking about & that nobody not even Kanye owed him anything". Biggs & Jay are Good & in Business together even though Damon grew up with Biggs & he said Jay hated Biggs. So believe what you want to believe. Beanie (Mack) Sigel one of my TOP 5 Favorite MC's of All Time!!!🤴🏽✌
Lol how can she have an NDA when every former rocafella artist or former affiliate is doing interviews every month. Truth is Amil isn't desperate for cash like Dame and the others
Not making a decision is making a decision. Respectfully.
Not making a decision is also not making a decision.
It isn't his business, it's between Jay Z and Dame. He stayed neutral
@ it was literally his business. He stayed in business with Jay and not Dame.
@@bern9642 If it effects your revenue its YOUR business.
Facts
@@JJohnson313 Beans was under rocafella and Dame and Jay were going through a break up and they put beans and many other in-between their issues. Now artists have to be choosing sides. If an artist doesn't choose my side, it's a betrayal. So on and so on. That's all BS. That's issues for Jay and Dame to work out. Neither was ready too.
In addition, Dame wanted Beanie to choose his side without even giving a business plan. Without explaining to him the direction he wants to take the brand. It's all purely emotional. It wasn't good business.
I get the feeling that a lot of these dudes took Dame for granted.
Why wouldnt they ? Jay was a owner too plus he was the star of the show
Prolly. I still can't trust the guy who exclusively complains ALL THE TIME...
Jay Z capitalized off a Dame very well.
Let’s be honest.. Nobody really talk bad about Dame when it came to business and he was fighting for his artists career in them rooms with Lyor, Kevin lyles and the rest of them corporate executives.. Dame was fighting like Tyson for his guys and nobody ever said he was a bad CEO to them.. check all the rocafella artists interviews bout him NOT 1 time..
Stop it 😂
If he picked you up from jail and you didn't see who was in your corner then that's on you Beans
He picked him up because the CASH COW (Jay-Z) was gone! 👌
Bean said a couple years ago he saw the angle dame was taking and he wasn’t being genuine now granted beans used to be high as a kite back then but he didn’t said “ he saw dame angle & it wasn’t genuine “ he said dame told him he could work with jay n bleek anymore
@@pedrogates3189i remember him saying Dame was using him as a photo op
It doesn’t matter either way cause The B Coming came out on DDMG in 05 and didn’t even go gold. Dame was never going to make it in the music business without Jay.
Not making a choice, was a choice!
I remember Beans show on BET when he was on his way to jail. Dame was there every moment
This comment should be pinned
Yeah making a mockery of him having them dress up like mobsters and live out some childhood fairy tale
Of course he was there every moment the cameras were rolling...
@@eib3137😂😂😂😂
And arrogant Jay was not! Yet people focus on Dames mouth so much when he the guy really looking out
Lack of accountability is a huge problem in our community
I agree. That is why our community is behind in so much because the people want to keep pointing the finger.
@@CB12345 yup 2 decades later men still talking about what another man ain’t doing for them and they was in and out of jail.
🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What community is that exactly?
No that just a human being trait that can happen in any ethnicity dont generalize. Im probably one of the few when im right i confess to being wrong. But of course when im right i will make my point and not without being subjective or turning something into competition than actually sound judgment. Being wrong is just as as important in growth than standing for something.
You’ve been killing it with these interviews.
Vague complimentary comment, is this self-promo for your own TH-cam channel? Get it!
Fr fr! I be so proud when I see the guest Art have. Gets better and better
We need to get AMIL on one of these platforms. I heard Beans, Dame & a few others. I WANNA HEAR AMIL SPEAK.
You ain't never lie
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Man that would be crazy.
Agreed
You the only that wants that. She was wack
Crazy how you gotta promise someone something for them to remain loyal
Mannnnn I was thinking the same thing… sad
Ni66a said "business-wise." Y'all be too emotional.🤦🏾♂️
Underrated comment
@@dharris2715 Him leaving would’ve been being disloyal to Jay snd Jay is the one who signed him in the first place. If you’re going to he disloyal regardless you might as well do it in the best situation.
Its business too wtf you saying of course they gotta promise something are you ok ? They not family they met in a music business setting ! They hooked up with Beans because he had talent ! They didnt grow up with him
Met Beans in Wal-Mart Elkton MD..I did like Guru said ..Gave him a compliment and a salute and kept it movin ❗️
Thanks for making this interview happen as a response.
"dame was more accessible. dame was in the office every day. dame used to come chill on the block in philly..." Dame actually said all of this too lol. He said that Jay was never around and he was always there. it does add up.
Everyone says the same thing in different way but hate Dame when he says it lmao
@@JemreauxFacts Dame ain't lied
@@Jemreaux bc he's unapologetically honest and has had a reputation for being an a-hole. but i think he knows hes right so he stands firm in it and it upsets ppl.
Of course lol. That was his job. Jay was supposed to be in the studio, he released like 12 projects in 8 years.
Jay-Z was too busy being a famous rapper, with several successful businesses = Jay-Z's WAY smarter than Dame + didn't waste ALL of his money on dumbs**, like Dame did
He said Dame picked him up from jail and said He wnted him to be with Dash music group and Beans said he did not want to choose, then turned around and said he never had those conversations. Thats because you stopped them when he tried to have them.
Bingo
He said Dame never broke down the plan. Dame basically made an empty offer without a blueprint, a grown man is not gonna ride aimlessly
If u wanna get a guy to choose u, u tell him ur plans
Dame tried to back him into a corner and make him choose when he didn't want to
you failed to comprehend what he said. Dame did not lay out his vision to Beans. No plan.
Im from Vegas and we rocked that State Property real life street shiiiddd💪🏾💯
@@JermirineClark Vegas is one city.
I'm from Alabama, with cousins from Cleveland & Pittsburgh, and we all rocked State Property very heavy. The only thing I didn't like about the brand is they didn't have a lot of clothing geared towards women. Rocawear and other brands such as Marc Echo, Enyce, and Girbaud did cater to women as well. But State Property didn't. I'm pretty sure had the brand lasted, they would've ended up making a womens line too.
Us Cleveland Boys Rocked That State Prop Gear Hard Too! It was a very thorough clothing brand. Nothing Like It! 💪
was heavy here in Cincinnati fasho
it's never too late.. they need to resurrect dat state property gear now!! 😂😂🤑💕
Jay turned on Dame. Ye turned on Dame. Bean turned on Dane.. & they all share that lame, guilty, sold ya homie out face when its time to talk about it
Facts
You forgot Dame was stealing company money?
@@ArtisanWindchimesexactly nobody mentions that part thou
How about if your homie is about to burn down what you all built and y'all keep telling him to chill out and his ego keep saying fuck that we untouchable when you know your not, then what??????
You sound stupid....Dame got every penny he asked for..he fucked it up
Hear him loud and clear. Salute Sieg. We love you and glad u here still!!!!!
He’s lying. He definitely picked Jay and he definitely regrets it now
Beans was a millionaire. He said so himself. Beans was wild out in the streets and never listened. He said he regret poor choices.
Bro but Jay had more going on. After 2005 Dame was pretty much irrelevant tbh. Plus Dame Dash Music Group was an independent label. Jay was the president of Def Jam. As a rapper who would you choose?
@@AkuraDavidson Dame's Music Group label also completely failed. That's why any artist who chose Dame after the Roc spilt never saw any big success.
@@djh5856 Jay is a billionaire. Beanie’s regrets have 0 effect on him and Dame was destined to be broke regardless.
@@tye1939they made it that way … do your research. You’ll find out if they actually blackball him.
Dame saw Beans not choosing him, as choosing Jay. 😩
It was 😢😢
@@francisavilez4435 was not
Only bc not choosing Dame meant signing with Rocafella
@@mspennyisaac Doesn’t matter what Dame saw. The world doesn’t revolve around Dame.
As he should. Jay always had a plan, while Dame was just a talker.
Loved how dedicated you are. Keep pushing!
Sound like Beans is gettin his full voice back that's a blessing bro! Think he is under rated as a MC , Truely one of the GOAT'S!!!
Like dat
“…….. Stay cased up nigga, stay deep in court
Reminiscin' on that cold cell, deep in thought
Gettin' skinny, couldn't eat, cause the meat was pork
Ya'll niggas couldn't live my life, I've been through it
Streached up in hospital beds, fed fluid
Two bullets hit my leg, one passed through it
Saw the blood and the hole in my calf, looked through it………”
Do you know how he lost it to begin with?
@@NoLineNoWait123AbC He ripped the tube out his throat when he woke up from a coma.
@@NoLineNoWait123AbC It’s from him getting shot back in 2014. The bullet hit his back and collapsed his lung and also damaged his vocal cords.
3:53 the things he was doing was already Dames plans meaning Roc-A-Fella /State Property clothing etc. Jay wasn't active with Beans at all regarding business.But Beans saw how they were starting to sideline Dames plans & he jump ship to the "winners" side. Then got sidelined himself.
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I lost a couple friends, keeping it neutral friends seem to think you need to pick sides but when you don’t you the bad guy smh .
Him keep it neutral when 1 guy came to pick you from jail is the reason the plans was never shared with him
@@maxxbarzzfacts especially since Jay wouldn’t co-sign for beans to be released on house arrest
@@maxxbarzzhe only picked him up bc he was looking for a lick. he literallt said he was my next Jay. Dame couldnt make another Jay.
Ppl who play the fence get there head cracked like Humpty Dumpty * life lesson
Fuck em. You can't help when dudes get emotional because you not "picking a side"
I hope Dame and Beanie are still cool with each other.
why?
you dont know these guys man focus on you
They respect each other but they’re not friends. Apparently dame snaked beanie by stealing beanie’s advance money that he unknowingly had sitting in a bank account. Dame stole from beanie, Dame stole from Jay, Dame stole from Bigs, and Dane stole from roc a fella where he’ll call you a traitor when you finally had enough and leave him. He’s one of the most important figures in music history but he was greedy and conniving during the roc era, despite what he preached about him “fighting for artists”. He means well but dame have multiple personalities that always results in a long distance/no relationship with nearly everyone he’s ever worked with
Beans doesn’t have any real smoke with anybody he pretty much forgave all parties involved and accepted his role in his stagnation. I don’t think he’s on bad terms with Dame or Jay.
What difference does it make? Dame is broke.
This level of dedication is what makes a difference.
Beans kept it 1,000 he spoke the real dame Is a solid dude for what he did by supporting beans
So he didn't have a business plan 4 beans. I think dame can talk a good game . But didn't make beans believe him
Beans say dame owe him 11 milly
😂
Jay is the one who signed Beans in the first place.
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I respect Beans for being strategic with his words versus shootn either side down.
That's a Sucka move....
I hate a cat like that
That’s all he’s doing. I’m sure his previous situations taught him to do so. This is a mature Beans speaking!
you must be a politician or aspiring
Jay z doing damage control now tht our attention is on "wildfires".. a magician's trick.
if you were offered to come with him and you declined, what more is there to talk about? it's common sense that he would have a plan for your career. that's what he's been doing 🤦smh
@@mizziti This is why you’re destined to be broke. Beans was already on the Roc, if Dame wanted him to leave then he needed to give him a reason why.
@@tony4534 that's why you have wax in your ears. he said he wanted to be neutral. being neutral and "convince me" don't go together. end of discussion.
@@mizziti This is why you’re destined to be broke. Beans was already on the Roc, if Dame wanted him to leave then he needed to give him a reason why.
@@mizziti Staying neutral means he wanted to keep his options open. Why would he commit to going with Dame if Dame isn’t giving him a reason to go to him?
How did anybody in this comment section listen to this clip and gather that Dame did him wrong? I don’t get it
@@donaldbren181 not giving beans a business plan or details on the direction he wants to take the brand was definitely wrong on Dame's side. What Dame wanted was to get one up on Jay.
Dame stole 11 mill from him...
Beans been said Dame owe him money
@@norfillysonwhy didnt he say that here roc botv
They love Jay more than they love the truth.
Beans respectfully you definitely didn’t stay neutral. If you stayed neutral, “The Solution” album would’ve never been released under Jay if that was the case. You would’ve been better off saying you chose the better opportunity. We would’ve somewhat understood it because by 07, Dame wasn’t as visible in the music industry whereas Jay still had power. Dame put Beans in a position that no non platinum artist ever made it to. Movies, cartoons, clothing line and etc. Dame did that, not Jay. Just say you was only loyal to whoever was giving you an opportunity to be up. Say what you want about Kanye but he kept it all the way real on why he chose Jay
You gotta realize Jay was good at brainwashing them. Think about it even Young Chris don’t speak ill of him or Peedi. Jay was like the big homie but he was only out for himself. Blocked Sigel when he wanted a release to sign with G-Unit. They had to much respect for Jay and he used them all to launch his career.
@@theseal9402 ehhh I agree and disagree. Jay was indeed for himself. That I can agree with. But I can’t say he brainwashed them. I think for every Young Chris that chooses to let the past be the past, there’s an Oschino who can’t wait to get in an interview and spew his thoughts to anybody that’s willing to listen. He’s been bashing Beans for years and that’s his choice. Some people choose to be messy while others just charge it to the game and move on with life 🤷🏾♂️
@theseal9402 so you want Chris to talk ill of Jay?
@TheRealLeonardWashington perfectly said, I agree 100%
That album was trash too bought the day it came out smh
KRS 1 said "LOVE GONNA GET YOU" he aint never lie!
Dialogue been Killin the interviews for a min 🫡
Beans cappin
@@spellitwith2gs Beans never went platinum. Him and Dame would’ve just ended up broker than they already are.
Love ya work !! Solid platform💪🏽
Naw jay didn't ruin beanie's life. Beanie was his own man and did things his way. That's all it was. Beanie is still alive and his future is still bright.
Jay did ruin him. He blocked him from getting money and signing with G-Unit. He would’ve never been in Jersey to get shot. Things Jay did played a part in Sigel downfall.
@@theseal9402facts. And he could have got beans out of prison but told the judge he not watching him.
@@theseal9402the airhead conspiracy theorists again.
“Dame made millions, Biggs made millions
Ye made millions, Just made millions
Lyor made millions, Cam made millions
Beans'a tell you if he wasn't in his feelings” jayz
State Property is literally the reason I mostly rock Carhartt as a grown ass man. That look was/is timeless.
They got it from queens bridge
@@ONLY1ME-OWEPutting in work*wear*
@@ONLY1ME-OWEShout out to Dickies to. Gettin them carpenters and button ups for the low at Wally World.
@ I got my dickies from the dickie spot in Yonkers
@@ONLY1ME-OWEno TF they didn't😂
“Beans will tell you if he wasn’t in his feelings” ……
GayZgotYOUhypnotized 😵💫
Beans was loyal 2 a default....i think Jigga was in beans head more than he like to admit compared Dame being a sure shot for keeping State Property Alive tho .....But Beans got sidetracked by loyalty but not for himself when shit got ugly
This right here
💯💯💯💯💯💯
If Dame was a “sure shot” then why didn’t Dame Dash music group blow up to become anything? And what was stopping him from still launching the State Property clothing brand? Come on now
@whatwhat9004 do I look like Dame. It's an opinion my guy get real frfr tho
@@whatwhat9004 You niggaz be real life goofies like fr fr. Clearly Dame got blackballed by Lyor Cohen and the dude you groupies hate on for Jay. Dame went on created Rachel Roy company 100 million dollar company.
Beans don’t remember shit vividly he describes himself declining as being neutral but he not being honest
Dude is a typical ungrateful drugged up crashout
Jay Z was going to make sure those extravagant visions Dame had for Beans weren't going to come true😂. Beans was serious competition. The streets were loving Beans during those ROC A FELLA days! Mad love from NYC!
1:07 at what time did Jay show up?
Take your time, I'll wait😂
Hahaha 😆😆
Of course he gonna say he don't think Jay ruined his life. That relationship still affects his career.
No, he is saying it because Jay never ruined his career. Beans also knows that as a man you are responsible for your own actions.
Wht career he's flipping burgers on a good truck
@@adeep187 What career?
@@greghammer9543his broke and our broke😂😂 plus he turned down 40 million from kanye
@Nottheopps he aint turn it dwn he knew ye like to talk. An i promise u My house is bigger an pockets fatter than beans right now. He's always i'm Virginia trust me he a regular guy like us
Still can't pick a side and get it straight. No back bone.
Good point.
@@cre8tivexchange You’re really upset that Dame is broke lol.
It ain’t about picking a side though. He on his Muslim thing he not slandering nobody.
He was raised by a single mother
Beans been on record saying Dame owed him close to 11 milliom dollars from the money from State Property clothes. he also was on record saying he was mad at Dame for putting out The Becoming album while he was locked up. why he aint mention that this time
Making up stuff lol
@KingStreetBrody No. Beans has said it on video. It's probably one google search away. They've all been chatty patties except Jay and Tata. Dame is even on video admitting to stealing money from Rocafella.
@@KingStreetBrody He has said this! I think it was on one of the interviews he did with Norega.
@@KingStreetBrody Nah Dame owes him 11 Milli
@@Caligula202 🧢
Art u are doing your thing right now with these interviews.
RESPECT!!!! We never stop learning and understanding.
Not picking is picking a side dude!!! SMH
So what side did he pick?
@@ChefSteff86lol exactly
@@ChefSteff86he chose Jay-z supposedly.
Ok. Your mother or your father. Pick a side.
Exactly
One came to your court cases and picked you up from prison and the other wouldn’t tell the judge he would make sure you stay out of trouble 🤔 ! And you went with the one who didn’t help you and shelved you ! Good decision making
That's a fact!!!!
@Heatlandheed, you won't read a book, and now you have a video with someone explaining the situation, and you still don't understand what the person said. Let me help you out here. He didn't pick a side; he stayed neutral; Dame didn't reach out to him to tell him his plans and Dame clearly made a lot of things up in the conversation because he knew people like you are out there who will believe anything, even when you have the truth in front of you.
@@stanleyonyejiaka9348 But even Beans is not exactly sure what he remembers. Be honest, does he look or sound like a man that remembers things from 20 years ago?
This😂.
After he told him not to do the dumb shit anyway.... Y'all love to assist the crash out 😂
Beans looking Mighty Fake in this clip😅
@@1brooklyn718 Don’t be mad at Beans. Him signing with Dame wasn’t going to stop Dame from ending up broke.
It's a Philly thing.
@@jeffghant4760 You wouldn’t come to Philly and say that aloud.
@@tony4534 Sure wouldn't. Philly is an awful place and the Black People there like killing each other.
Beans always been fake ….. look at how he acted during the Meek vs Game beef
Beans was the real deal. I used to hang out in south Philly in the early 2000s I would see him at the clubs in Delaware ave. Def lived what he rapped about
Beans is a busta. What he rapped about got him looking like death. He has no loyalty,except to gayz
@ in the early 2000s he was doin it. Big!!! Not saying now. Not saying it was a great choice. But he was that guy he rapped about
OMG, this video is like a motivational espresso shot! ☕
Bro just keeping it neutral... at the sametime proving Dame was right... but he not trying to close a door just incase... but if you can read in-between the lines... you know
That made no sense at all lmao
Beans just prove Dame did nothing to prove his point on beans, in other words dame lied
Matter as well close it .. that door is going down lol
Beans was in the clouds back then, he don't remember.
Beans know Jay got him
🔥🔥🔥
Movies, cartoons, labels etc… -Beans
I like his perspective , mature gentleman!
2:24 Beans! Dame did the movies and clothing already... the ball was already in moving. C'mon guy.
True indeed
Dame said he tired of people asking him about jay but he always answering questions about jay LOL
It’s bc he’s getting a bag to talk about Jay now. Ppl used to ask him about Jay and he wasn’t getting paid for it.
@@Stvn3200 I doubt he's getting that big of a bag. The only thing he can speak on is his past business ventures with Jay Z, nothing else. Everyone kinda over it now after he milked it entirely. Adam22 asked him to come on and he asked for $500 for transportation. He not getting to no money.
It might not be “that big” but sounds like he needs it. He mentioned owing a lot in taxes in a recent interview.
Can the man that's the actual driving force in the matter be recognized for his role because I don't see where Dame needed Jay-Z...
Dame made us believe in Jay-Z by actually standing up for another and taking the artist talent and actually creating revenue off it!
How about this?
What about when Jay-Z didn't have Dame...Did you LIKE JAY-Z??
The Hawaiian dude?!
I didn't. His style, the whole vibe, would have never happened without Dame! But y'all want the game for FREE!!! JAY-Z the person is Cornyyyy. He took what he watched Same do and then once he understood it and was made a offer he then BEGAN TO CLONE HIMSELF AFTER DAME BUSINESS WISE BECAUSE THEY CUT DAME'S THROAT AND SWEET TALKED JAY-Z TO BE BETTER OFF BY REMOVING the immature Dame from the situation. Yes, I said it! DAME'S inability to professionally mature really did it for him like many men before him. The brains gets targeted and like the pyramids in Egypt....we can't believe how simple... something that would reach so far..
Shiddddddd.....lol
@@dennislawson4497 yea ppl forget that Jay would have gave up on rap if not for Dame. Jay wasn’t going to get signed and Dame pushed him to keep going and switch his style up. I believe Dame’s downfall wasn’t his lack of maturity, it was his lack of “going along to get along.” Ppl knew Jay would play the game so they convinced him to drop Dame so they could get more $ out of Jay for themselves. Had Jay & Dame worked it out they’d be bigger than UMG and all these major labels plus running liquor companies, clothing, etc.
Boy his ass tweakin I’m from Chicago whole city was rocking rocawear it was in every store I never seen state property clothing in my life
Man we was selling that Rocawer shit like crazy for a quick minute 😂
I hear you…SP clothes was readily available in The NYC…
@@smoothtogether8982 Chicago is one city.
state prop was big down south bigger then roca wear down south
I’m from saint it was to a wear at first but when state property came out it was in every store and on his way
Jay said 20 plus years ago “Beans I ain’t trying to change you, just give you some game. So you can make the transition from the streets to the fame”
And yall in the comments talking about “look who picked him up from jail”
Had he listened to Jay he woulda never been in jail in the first place.
THANK YOU!
💯
Facts for life
Exactly! At some point you have to distance yourself from friends and their toxic behavior if they don't change they can bring you down with them...
That doesn't change the fact that Jay did nothing with him when came out of jail. Jay went in a completely different direction with his new roster of artists in Roc Nation. Lets not act like he would've had Beans on a label with Rita Ora, Rihanna etc. and all his other watered down Roc nation artists- he sold out the culture- it is what it is.
I’ve slowly come to realize the art of dialogue is the real thing!! n I now fully support and endorse this brother.. vlad trailblazed the way but how you been goin label to label breaking down what went on from the artist perspective and surrounding talents is giving an true insight into what went on with our favorite artist… after this roc a fella break down I look forward to cash money or ruff ryders breakdown and hope you gain the notoriety to get Motown artist to break down what really was goin on behind the scenes
I watched the video after this one first… but I just spoke on this remember that like it was damn near yesterday!!
Bro seems drained of life energy,
That’s what happens when you recover from gunshot wounds and loose a lung in the process🤷🏾♂️
Dude he got shot. If this is the outcome....wel it could be much worse.
He just doesn’t want to call dame a liar.
Dame has always been a fast talking harlem city slicker...........
& You just a 🐦 🧠 listening to j3w$ and sellouts
City hater
@@chasenickles260 🐑
Bingo! So slick that the masses don't pick up on it.
I can understand Beans wanting to stay neutral. He made some dope songs with Jay and wanted to maintain that relationship. Obviously Dame did alot for him so he wanted that type of support too. It's like when a couple breaks up and friends are put in a position to choose a side.
They all chose jay thinking they'd get paid 😂
I'm confused. I guess at this point it doesn't even matter 🤷🏾♂️
“Dame made millions Biggs made millions Ye made millions Jus made millions can made millions Beans a tell you if he wasn’t in his feelings” - Jay Z
Facts
Dame the reason we got Kanye
Beans should had his own label and signed all of State Property and have them sign independently with different labels same way Rza did with Wu-Tang.
He did have his own label, he didn't do shit with it
Your just as ignorant as that dude in your avatar pimp c........ how many times do people have to tell you beans wasn't a leader he was a soldier, dude didn't know what to do for state property........ even oschino said beans should have never been the leader of state property, and that it would of been better with another member as the leader....
You must be young
Beans had
Label
Clothing line
Was 2 movies as the head lead
2 Bentleys
Beans fucked up his own career because he couldn't leave the streets alone
He did have a label
@@Kobe-jz2zz Sigel must have enjoyed telling mofos to "get down or lay down" a little bit too much. 🤣🤣🤣
Dame has said on numerous occasions he was going away from music to then say he was gonna make beans the new jay
Smartest thing for beans to do then was transintion from the street to the fame.
I once found myself in a similar situation. I chose to stay neutral but it appeared to both my friends like treason but what they didn’t understand is that my position meant wisdom cause for the love I had for both of them I couldn’t lean on on side and turn my back to the other. 20 years later we’ve got to meet and talk it all to clear it up and before I speak they both stopped me and told me they realized that I truly loved both of them and there was no point in choosing one over the other. Now we’re back strong as before and our kids play together and call each other cousins.
You missed the entire point and took advantage of this video to tell us an irrelevant life story. If one friend (like in this context) blatantly betrayed and disrespected another. To which I choose to stay neutral, then I don't love either one. Why? Because love is tough AND love is protective. I have held friends accountable when they are in the wrong because I love them. If I justified their behaviour by not doing anything (staying neutral), then I would be doing them a great injustice for they would live their lives thinking that they were the victim. Your context could be entirely different. One person may have made a small mistake and the other may have responded disproportionately which could have ultimately led to a complex situation that would have justified your neutrality. This wasn't the case.
Thanks for sharing this insight bro. Amazing wisdom
In those types of situations I choose myself and always will
Dame And Beanie Need To Have A Sit Down Like Men And Just Talk Things Out.🎯💯
They both Taurus very stubborn
I never knew that had an issue
Exactly. If Sigel is saying that he would have gone with Dash if he knew what he knows now then he should do it now. Probably not music, but there are plenty of other things they could do.
@ Are you one of their agent?
@ OK. Who's agent are you, son? Mofos are on here pretending so they can 'win' a 'debate'. 🤣🤣🤣 The music industry is not the only industry, son.
Yup State Property Clothing was popping. Seriously the new Ads were fire and they had the Cartoon on the way . The Play Pen i believe it was called.
Dame picked you up from jail but you wouldn’t side with him???
It breaks my heart to see what Dame has become.
bot!
@@good-Vibes0nly Lyor got his access to internal YT bot army out in force the shit is blatant.
Beans could have reached biggie heights if it kept rolling, a goat
I Love Beans but that's not true. He was far from a studio gangster the music was too street
@@Charles-ke2po Beans put out 4 albums and none went platinum and only one went gold. Biggie’s first album went double platinum before he died.
Sureeeé,
@@tony4534All beans album flopped. One went gold. All freeway albums flopped. I'm from Philly. State property always been corny to me
What is biggie heights?? Claiming to be a playa but PAC smashed his wife 😂 Beans put out more albums than biggie. Only NYC people think big of biggie lol the whole world thinks BiG of PAC!
Dame had him in movies lead roles called state property classic what more you need than he convo done it’s in the actions
@@doughskeezy Those “movies” cost less to film than a music video. Jay jumping on records with Beans did way more for him.
Dame didn’t wanna tell him his plans bc he would’ve told Jay and of course jay would’ve done something underhanded to put a wrench in it
@@joycehodge8151 Dame didn’t tell him his plans because he didn’t have any. His “label” didn’t last 2 years.
Good interview
Beans is ducking and diving.... he went with the popular guy thinking it would catapult his career. Jay is a selfish moyo and shelved him....
Look at dames history with managing rappers....it's not good
Beans made mistake he's a grown fuxking man take accountability stop blaming Jay-Z for ever fuxking thing it's a cowards way out
I'm sure he signed to dame dash music group
Exactly. He sounding real flip floppish right now.
I totally agree. Dame came to pick you up… Jay did not care for your ass! Y’all betrayed Dame
Sigel was lit
Dame use to chill on the block with Mac.
nothing is worth chilling on the block, it does nothing to make your life better or better for black people.
@poundtrader1414 say it louder for the other idiots
Well maybe he should have chilled in some business courses, the studio, and the executive office with Mac more, then they would both be better off.
@@Robby3296 “I don’t be in the project hallway talking about how I be in the projects all day”
At that time Dame was a millionaire.
Well it ain’t too late yall stil alive and well make something happen my brother’s 💯💯💯
State Property had a lot of hot pieces. Especially their Jackets. Also, if Dame was more accessible and was pulling up to your mom’s crib? Dame was the obvious choice to go with. Sad what happened to rocafella.
That Beans verse on that Pushta record tho 🔥 🔥🔥🔥
Jay was never around because he was always making moves while the rest are chilling on the block. Of course jay gonna leave everyone in the dust if they don’t have the same ambition
exactly. Jay-Z was always focused on moving forward.
"You can bullshit with Rap if you want, muthafucka" Jay-Z
When it’s all said and done we gon see what’s what… holla at Hov I’ll be in the cut!
What is ROC-WEAR Dame? You mean ROCAWEAR? You should know your own clothing line. 😂 #hadtopickonhimforTHAT
Not making a choice, is a choice.
Dame be just liying. I was literally beefing wit beans over the ownership of sp because beans thought it was his but it wasn't
Lying
Can't wait to see how he gonna somehow ask him about 2 pac. We know it's coming
"Yeah U mite be rite about dat"
"So you think Pac would have signed with Dame like you didn't man?"
-Art in _every_ interview
@@yumjoystyle2😂😂😂😂
That's what puts the icing on the cake 🎂
Knowing 2Pac, if he had lived, he would've worked with Jay-Z and Dame. They had common enemies in Nas & Mobb Deep. I could see Suge working with Dame Dash and I think Suge actually liked Jay-Z as an artist. It would've been 2Pac & Jay-Z on a Watch The Throne album and eventually Jay-Z & Biggie would've been beefing for that top NY spot
@@mikesenoj720
No, more like gIazing
.....And saying you had big plans for someone and never telling them was a bad decision on Dame's part. Dame will say he didn't want to deal with rap when it makes him look bad, and he will say he had big plans when it's something that could make him look good.
Beans was always vocal about not choosing sides. He didn't look at Rocafella like the company he worked for. To him it was family
Thank u Beanie!! Point blank period!
Did Kanye give him some money yet for Yeezy
He gave beans 40 million,but not for yezzy.
@@robdarby1324when was this
@robdarby1324 no he did not. Beans said he ain't want it. Google it
@@robdarby1324👁👁 WHERE'S THE PROOF. OH YEAH, YOU HAVE NONE. YOU PROBABLY THINK THE RAPPER'S ARE STRAIGHT & THEIR JEWELRY IS REAL TOO 😄😭
@@robdarby1324no he didn’t
Sigel Sigel in the house
Jay knew beanie was talented he knew Chris was talented . He got beanie and shelved him and dame knew what beanie could have been . That’s what’s dame meant . He was going to be a new hov
Sure
Never was gonna be anything but what he was stop trying to rewrite history
If we don’t know these people in real and wasn’t there, all we can do is go by the people that lived it. Dame seem like he just want to blame Jay for everything, and he did everything perfectly because I don’t see Dame taking accountability for nothing
@@ebonywhite50 💯
The B Coming was released on Dame Dash Music Group
The most annoying things about these newer interviews is the comments from the uninformed people who either just discovered Hip Hop or are clueless! Beans nor Dame doesn't mention the fact that him & Beans fell out over supposed millions of dollars Beans felt Damon owed him! As a man who lived through that era keep it a Buck, if you hate Jay-Z just say that but if you are only listening to 1 side of a story how are you getting the truth?!?! 🤷🏽♂ When Biggs was locked up Damon did interviews saying a bunch of people owed Biggs etc.... Biggs gets out of jail & every interview he gets asked about it & he said in each interview "He didn't know what Damon was talking about & that nobody not even Kanye owed him anything". Biggs & Jay are Good & in Business together even though Damon grew up with Biggs & he said Jay hated Biggs. So believe what you want to believe. Beanie (Mack) Sigel one of my TOP 5 Favorite MC's of All Time!!!🤴🏽✌
SO HOW DID YOU END UP WITH JAY NUCKA???????
@@vengers2012 He was already with him just like Dame. Dame left, Beans stayed…
@tony4534 Good looking
Amil probably signed that nda,that’s why you haven’t heard a sound outta her,she on mute,or they already paid her off to stay silent.
She like Cassie without the hotel soccer game
Lol how can she have an NDA when every former rocafella artist or former affiliate is doing interviews every month. Truth is Amil isn't desperate for cash like Dame and the others
@ededdneddy988
The same way Cassie did. They're more likely to take the hush money. That's how.
She already did an interview bruh...yall don't READ
NDA, she probably was paid to not say anything.
Dame had concepts of a plan... He didn't have a plan, if he did, every one would have heard him talking about it.
Yall still can yall got some more juice in ya💯💪
Beans wasn't even on jay level of rap why would he even shelves him.
When did Jay shelve Beanie? People just make up things on the internet. Not referring to you.