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NEW SCAFFOLD TOWER TO FIX THE ROOF - Please forgive the bodge!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- £900 to fix a couple of slates! But I did get a free scaffold tower out of it! 😁 As I mentioned in the video, the whole roof is coming off next year so priority is just to secure any 'killer slates' and limp through the rest of Winter before doing a proper job in a few months.
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I have a similar, although a bit less expensive scaffold, that goes up to 6m in height, with the four supports...it’s been very useful and breaks down into 1.5m sections so storage in the garage is no problem, it’s been a good buy considering the cost of hire...and well done, a good bodge that should get you through the worst the winter has to offer... I refuse to get anyone in for a job I can do myself...and like yourself I can competently do most things...jus5 need to get the professionals for gas work and to sign off on my electrical work...
Which tower did you buy? Thanks
Weve just had our 90 year slate roof redone. When they started to take the slates off alot of them where damaged and cracked. We ended up biting the bullet and put redland cambrians on. Expensive job but hopefully we wont have to ever touch it again!!!
My roof was grouted slate. I’d pushed slipped slates back in then used gutter adhesive to keep them in place. Two years ago, after the winter I had it relayed with a breathable membrane underneath. Sometimes conditions force a temporary repair and a proper job later.
Don’t worry about any bodges. We all do it to get by at the time. I was furious the other day when I asked a roofer to replace three lost slates and bolt back a small section of iron gutter. £430 later, only one slate replaced and they were only here an hour. Thats a weeks wage for me. Criminals. I’m getting a tower next time and repairing and repainting all the iron gutters myself.
Great video👍
I had the same scaffold in Australia... 5m height, works great, I added 4 more leg supports so I could get it firm on uneven ground and on the lawn. I hate heights and this made working on my gutters and roof so much more comfortable and safe.
Brilliant. I'm a super bodger. Anything to save money. Just most of my work goes a bit wonky. Thanks for the vid. My old guttering needs some love.
Hi Tim and Jo, Thanks for sharing, even your bodge jobs with us. I'm sure that you inspire many others, including me to 'do it ourselves', so thank you for your generosity and a Happy Christmas to you all. Cheers, Mandy.
I have a slate roof in a mid terrace, always keeping an eye on it. I think they look a lot nicer on cottages such as yours rather than them concrete ones.
Nice scaffolding. Much nicer than the steel crap ones we use here in the US where you have to climb up the outside of it. Any time I see construction on a house in europe they always seem to totally surround the house in a cage of scaffolding. We don't do that here and generally scaffolding is only used on commercial buildings.
I wouldn't mind having some scaffolding like that but yeah storage is an issue and I already have enough stuff to store.
Not a permanent fix on the roof but it's a good enough bandaid until you can do it right and will stop the damage from continuing.
I totally understand.
I'm in the UK, our pole scaffold systems are first class with domestic and commercial being one in the same.
I worked in Canada for a while and found their scaffolds were very scary. We were nailing metal bars into the building and nailing them to an outside leg then literally building a scaffold from there!
It may be similar in the US.
@@marks-0-0 Our scaffolding is similar to what he bought but all steel and we don't have those cool doors that flip up so you can climb up inside and have a big platform. Some have a narrow platform others you have to climb up the outside. It's mainly the masonry guys that use scaffolding. The rest of us usually use bucket lifts or other equipment that is allot more convenient. Just get in drive over and raise the boom and reach out.
It has to be more of a space issue as we have room for equipment where as in Europe everything is tight and there just isn't room for equipment to be driving around etc. Big tall commercial is a different animal all together.
There was one sketchy system I saw on a taco bell site. They used a long platform with a post at each end and jacks. They would just jack the platform up the posts as they needed. Not for me...
What surprised me was in the 90s I was watching a site while in England and the amount of work I saw done with hand saws and other hand tools surprised me. Here that wouldn't fly as it takes too long.
UK law is full scaffolding or else.
Merry Christmas 🍍. Love the scaffolding, the floor hatch especially. Moved from a large parcel of land to a 2 bedroom apartment, my tools 🛠 all fit in one drawer of my desk and one shelf of a cabinet lol the days of 2 sheds for work toys 👋 have been waved good bye. Which makes me chuckle 🤭😄 as I watch your storage expand “Its an investment” written all over everything 😆
That made me smile:) Yes, it's easy to fall into the trap of convincing yourself that "It's an investment"! Did you purposely downsize to simplify your life?
I have roughly 1000 12 x 24 slates from a roof recently stripped, going cheap if you need them. Also, lead tingles work for a while but proper repair needs doing, double fold the lead that you can see to make it tougher should it be knocked somehow
Good effort.
I bought a few reclaimed slates and the roofers tools when I first bought the 125 year old roof... also bought copper tangs and copper nails just to have to hand. Cheaper than a roofer when needed in a rush and they have and will be used again and again until like you the roof is redone. Slate has a life of 100 to 150 years. When neighbours have slate redone with new slate it really looks good and solid.
The discussion I’m having (with myself) is do I reroof and reuse the current welsh slate or settle for a decent Spanish slate. Oddly I can get £1 a slate selling mine to the reclamation place which is not far off paying for the new!
The Restoration Couple. We are in the same position with our roofs. I have Caledonian slate over sark boards and 4 dormer windows so a lot of lead that is in poor condition.
Look at the condition of the slate you can buy that is period. I think the edges and the face of the slate looks to have " softened, delaminates and cracked somewhat". Yes you can save money buying recycled but I am going to buy British slate Caledonian weight and take the hit on price for quality slate. Do it once do it right. The roof and the ground level have too big a detrimental impact if they fail. I am doing a room that had water ingress on the inside corner when the flaunching failed. The sandstone is rounded and the pointing gone from the water damage due to wet dry cycle over decades. I have had to repoint the stone before replacing lath and plaster with new insulation and insulated plasterboard to bring the gable wall up to spec.
That bodge job looks suspiciously like one of my best jobs.
If imitation is the biggest form of flattery, I'll take the compliment.
Thanks for sharing!
great tip about one-hand nailing. that will come in handy. but omg, I was filling my boxers just watching you climb up the ladder and the scaffolding. terrifying. Hope you and Jo have a lovely Christmas with the kids (and family) :-)
just get a hammer with magnetic nail starter,plenty about
Love your channel, almost all the DIY projects I’m planning seem to hit on a video you’ve made whether they’re home or van related. Keep it up and thanks for the content.
You should of put under slates under bottom row as water still get in to stone work and cause damage you don’t see until you get damp in a room.
Sometimes life needs a bodge to get it through. As long as you plan to sort it properly which no doubt you will it’s fine. 👍
Too true.
Excellent ! Not a bodge. A good temp fix. Love the one hand nailing technique. Thank you!
No way - I can't believe how closely our projects follow one another. I've been looking at towers this week for my own roof and guttering repairs. Keep up the vids. Regards from Southend
I have used those towers. I remember its very important to set the wheel/feet height because otherwise it wobbles and im not good with heights lol
I've done the same! good decision!
So critical on yourself...that was a great video and a great temporary fix until you can get the real job done. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Great reminder using the led as a hook. Have a wonderful and Blessed Holiday season.
Much cheaper to nip to a builders yard and get some copper straps. Don't unfold or crack with various weather changes either!
Ladders are fine if they are fixed to anchor points and a roofing ladder. You can also use a half harness if you like but this is essentially an hours work for a pro.
That one handed nailing trick is pretty good.
Yeah - sometimes those framing hammers have a magnet too. But this is a good trick
I have recently started to use a tool belt, I felt a bit of a knob at first - but so so useful.
So true! I feel like I’ve now grown out of this small one and may look at a better one next year if I do the roof. You get so used to having everything to hand.
Needs must, it's only a bodge job if you intend to leave it that way, better description is a patch job. Have a great Christmas and a happy new year 👍
Tim you could try lashing a horizontal piece of 2x1" to the top of the ladder to minimise further left/right movement....the 2x1rests on the gabel
or just buy a ladder stay for £30 then you will also be away from the wall and not having to lean backwards like a moron as in this video.
Hi Tim just wanted to say I received my cup the other day and I am very happy with it, cheers for signing it too really appreciate it, had to get the mrs to make me a brew straight away to test it out, Merry Christmas matey to you and the family
Glad it got there ok. Not sure how long the sharpie will last! 👍
Lol I am sure it will, it’s now on full display preserved on the mantle, again mate really appreciate it and it’s nice to be able to show support to such a great channel
Late to this video as recently found your channel. It might be worth thinking about putting in some eye (hoop with a hole in it) anchor bolts in various locations around the house. You can then run a ratchet strap from them to your ladder. One each side of the ladder 1/2 to a 2/3 of the way up the ladder and the ladder is a lot more secure and means it can't slip either way when up. Also a ladder limb is very useful and clip in a bucket to it so you have somewhere to put your tools etc when up the ladder.
Something else I do is working off the roof with a harness and fall arrest lanyard. Use the chimney breast as your anchor point with a strap around it. You can the very first time you go up use some roof ladders, fix a loop of metal rope around the chimney then leave some fishing line or the like looped through it and tie this off at the gutter height. Then in the future you can use this line to pull your lanyard up trough the chimney loop and back to you off the scaffolding and then clip into your harness. Once up on the roof with your harness on you can put a second strap around the chimney breast to clip into. It sounds like a faff but it isn't really once you have done it once or twice.
Nice temp job, re the new roof you are more then capable, me and my son in law did there house when the full scaffolding is up no problems have have a good one you and yours
I suggest getting a second set of scaffolding and attaching it to the one you have. Your scaffold needs to be wide enough that it can’t tip over. (The tipping direction I describe is away from the side of the house.)
What do you think of ladder sandoffs? Whenever I have to get up to the gutters, I feel insecure because I have to lean out from the soffits.
Had to be done,I didn't realise how much roof repairs are,im buying scaffold do it myself
Dude I am just about to replace a dormer mid winter on my own....no bodge dude....
You go for it
All the best to the family.
Brilliant job.far from a bodge that. Just bought my scaffold tower. Can be used for many projects 👍
That's a good price to be fair. I just forked out 620 for a boss scaffold tower. Much older and much more use than this one. Which was a little over the odds but should save me money in the long run
It's funny about the "bodge" job. We all have to do them at some point. No matter how much of a perfectionist I (oops, I mean we!) am. So, it's nice to show the reality of living with an old home.
Great channel,always intresting congrats on your 80k subscribers👍
Sending you and your family a wonderful holiday season
I’m a roofer , been roofing 20 years and that’s not a bodge that’s a repair for a couple of slipped slates, it happens!! I’ve been to a few corker bodge jobs in my time and you’d be surprised 🙈😂 good job 👍
Very smart to bur 2nd hand scaffolding and reclaimed slate. Happy Christmas 🎄and Boxing Day.
I have a youngman tower like you - use one layer (with 3 platfoms) in shed as shelving system - ends up saving space
That is a great idea
Live in a Victorian cottage with slate roof. Took several attempts to get an answer from the roofer - how to fix the small tiles along the edge of the roof which move in high winds. The small tiles swing sideways and then stick out beyond the roof. I think you have some tiles like this. When pushed, he suggested fitting extra wide tiles which he found and fitted. No further problems with the edge of my roof.
2020 plan to have the kitchen roof rebuilt - far too many bodges . . .
Yes I believe ‘slate and a half’ sized slates are what is best used. That is the route we will go when we get the roof sorted.
@@TheRestorationCouple Yes - 'slate and half' . . . fixes the problem
You can also use verge clips to prevent that, if you're having that issue it sounds like its either only fixed with one nail or you have nail rot 👍
Good work on sourcing a tower. Guessing you've had some training in the past as most wouldn't put the kickboards on the top landing and also you put your handrails on BEFORE climbing through the hatches!!
No, just watched the manufacturer’s video a couple of time over a coffee before I started. 👍 I’ve used a tower before however only having watched the video now do I realise how much I got wrong a few years back! Having done it properly now, it will be super simple in the future.
Looks like you’re using upvc capital board as a dry verge. It does do the job, I know loads of people that have done that. 👍👍
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
You forgot to lay the ridge slates they go under the first course of slate . Roofing is so easy , a new roof on your own should only take you two days . Had you of said you needed a tower you could of lent mine its only sitting there now it’s only a few years old just like the one you have just used only it go higher . Don’t let doing a full roof put you off , just try to do it in the warmer weather and use a stapler to fix the felt . It’s much quicker and the batons hold the felt on place it’s just so it doesn’t move while your fitting the batons , also while the roof is stripped insulate between the rafters , your best place for the insulation is a company on EBay who are called insulation seconds you can get a pallet of about 300 for about £230 .
Not a bodge, a temporary repair..😄, thanks for sharing, good luck with the restoration and the channel in 2020, now subscribed.
Good man you know your self you could have done with that scaffolding on many jobs you have done in the past iv been following you ,iv commented before using ladders to work at heights if you fall you have a young family ,I’m was in construction for 20 years and 3 guys fell off ladders and died leaving their family’s without a bread winer .Watching from Australia
Do they feel shaky when youre up there? or do you feel pretty safe? Pretty useful things
2 half gates are handy for bit of extra height as you can go much higher without fixing scaffi to building.
My next house is going to be a bungalow, I hate heights yet I felt the fear and did it anyway.
Do these scaffolding towers take up a lot of room when dismantled?
Merry Christmas 🎄 needs are needs especially with this bad weather we have been having in the uk 🇬🇧
Merry Christmas and Great New Year from our family to yours. Ps the Mug is great too
Well done, Tim. I’ve enjoyed watching your informative videos. Every blessing for Christmas and the New Year 👍
I think you could do with longer stabilizers on that tower unless you didnt extend them fully? But you had a lot of overhang being up that high. Also it looks like you had straight joints on the bottom slates near the gutter as if your eve slates were missing or broken.
These stabilisers are used up to this height, there are longer ones to go up higher if needed.
@@TheRestorationCouple maybe it was an optical illusion but it looked lower then halfway
Have you thought about using resin/glass reinforced cement products? You get the traditional look and finish, with a lot less weight too. Negotiate a deal on the reclaimed slate against the cost.
Not a fan personally and will be trying to keep natural slate whether re using the same ones or new. The fact these have been almost untouched for 120 years shows that not much is better than decent slate. 👍
They dont look half as good as natural slate and take longer to lay due to needing to fix them in 3 locations on each slate.... although they are far cheaper. Slate roofing is not cheap
louikn __ I think the stuff we used was a resin type material. Looked the bees knees, much less weight on the structure, did it myself, and got a decent wedge on the reclamation.
Ah you must have used a rivendale or a cambrian i guess? Yes some size slates and depending on where they originate are worth a good bob or two
Merry Christmas to you and your family 🎄
You could of done the same job with 1 of them home master diy scaffold towers are one was 630quid 7m it is I used to to are roof and gutters and gable ends thing was really solid not as good as this 1 but still they do the job for a lot less money
Not a bodge job. That’s called using your head and experience to overcome a problem. Nice one 👍🏻.
I thought the ladder was going onto the new porch roof to reach the top but maybe that shows my level of health and safety training 👍
Daniel Dainty 😂 wet and wind , no need for health and safety at all, Christmas in a hospital 🤪😜
How much roughly was that tower looks brand new good buy ❤
If it works fine -Keep that nasty rain out mate Have a good New year😀
Thank you!
Merry Christmas!
Hello. I'm tempted to do something similar to reach my chimney stack to fix the flashing. Would you use your tower to reach the 'house side' part of the chimney stack or do you think you need more specialist scaffolding for that?
Hi where did you get your scaffolding from? Thanks
I could really do with a tower of a similar height, much safer than working off a ladder. I would imagine that a 2nd hand ex-hire tower will be much stronger than a new consumer version.- could I be cheeky and ask how much it cost 2nd hand? Thanks
Way better. I was tempted by the diy options but figured I’d easily get money back if not make a little buying this one. I paid £900, this set is fairly standard and rarely move outside of the £950-£1100 range.
1 hand nailing 👌👌
That's not a bodge nailing a tarpaulin up there is a bodge
Perhaps ‘Bodge Plus’ then. 😂
I hate the hassling of hiring, have ended up with a few tools I've only used once though
You did great. Those slates could have killed someone so nice job.
Merry Christmas you and your family ! 🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄👍
Built that tower better than a scaffolder 👍
How tall was the scaffold tower?
Have a great Xmas boyo
Looks pro to me😌
Is the roof a simple up and over? 10k seems very steep if so, the roof doesnt look that large to me
100m2, little bay at front and a couple of velux at back but yes very simple really in comparison to others with lots of hips and valleys.
@@TheRestorationCouple yeah very simple then, £100 per meter... not far off depending on where you live, but i know i could do that cheaper 😉
hi friend that mad you will save 5k min better in your pocket . it took 5days we had to knock a gable chimney a nightmare it was mass concrete that took 2 hard day a day scripe it day4 lat and felt day 5 slate it i put 2 vent at the back of the roof it a bit of hard work 4k all done i got 700 back for the old blue bangers the new slates cost 800 euro fibercement 30years guarantee they last a life of you and me together. the old roof it was the 2x1 lats that went the roof was 80 years old so off with the old one hope the new one last as long the slate last a lifetime it the timber that goes
HAPPY cHRISTMAS!!
great video dude
sell the old slates that will cover the cost of the new one's i tought i was going to reuse the old one's on my house till half get smashed when you take them off my roof looks to be something like yours scaffolding cost 1000 euro fibercement slates 2by1s felt all bits 1500 2 men for 5days 1500 total 4000 euro
You’re right about selling them. I was offered £1.50 a piece a couple of years back although we would want to use natural slate but would certainly offset cost. It may be possible to reuse these but hard to say until had a closer look.
friend trust me you work out cheaper with a new slate the old slates are worth 5 euro to sell to be resold again at 25 euro there mad money if you could save all the old one then your ok that won't happen now i might be wrong all the main timber should be ok the 4x2 the 2x1 lats will be rotten the timber should be larch mine was as hard as steel the lats needed to be replaced felt slates etc friend this is a job you can do no bother with a bit of help you should all done for about 3300 pounds . what was your best price to do the roof im thinking 5500 pounds
maz man there will be some timbers to replace but most are fine having seen it all from the inside. Membrane and batten needed of course. It was a couple of years ago but most quotes were over £10k plus scaffold. 🙄
Some years ago my parents had their slate roof redone on a house around the same size as yours and it took 3 guys the best part of two weeks. If you've had quotes around the £10K mark then take a 20% profit and the matierals plus scaff off and you will have an indication of the man hours involved. Just thinking you would be adding a lot more value by doing the extension than you will save on the roof by doing it with the roofer. The sheer physicality of it could be pretty draining. I don't mean to sound too negative but when you see roofers in action they work bloody hard and they get very fit through the job. Ofcourse you can do it but it will be slower and you could have a fair bit of work on the chimneys too.
Wouldn’t look to be doing it solo, that would be a labour of love! It would be alongside a roofer. I’ve had multiple quotes over £10k without scaffolding and to reuse slate with reclaimed where needed. That’s a decent pay rate even with 30 days labour. Batten, membrane and lead being the only materials. Those quotes would not have included any fascias, timbers, guttering either. 😏
@@melissahill7930 😁 Not knocking off any one's bill. Just choosing to pay a solo roofer at their regular rate rather than a company, that's just a personal choice. On a simple roof like this, are you trying to tell me that it requires a full team of roofers carry out the work when there is no time restraint and all the tools and materials are on site? I may not have a roofing degree but I do believe that I can lift and shift slates and batten a roof. 😉
@@melissahill7930 I'm not that old! 😉 I understand your point though, don't get me wrong, I am not intending to take anything away from the fact that roofing is a tough gig. All I am saying is once I have scaffolding wrapped around the whole building anyway, I am already carrying out structural work myself to roof timbers, chimneys and all the roof trim, it makes sense to employ my roofer to carry out the roofing with me around, (and filming, etc). Rather than getting in the way of a team of trades and being tied to their schedule. I.e they would want to rip the old roof off and get the membrane/battens on same day. I know that once the roof is off I have the one off opportunity to check and seal off the insulation for the rooms below, board out storage in the eaves, future proof any cabling. If I am not on site myself I will miss that option or at least have to hold up work , plus I really don't want to be 'that customer' that is always poking the nose in. We'll see, as I said in my video, I haven't decided either way, just like to have both options worked out before I get any further.
Please don't store this in a 'gap behind your shed'
these things are like gold dust, no small construction business owner likes to buy one of these so you would be very surprised how often they dissapear off building sites
Mate for Xmas new hammer with nail starter !
Omg there was a ghost at the start!!
I hope you've done your PASMA training!
Know the feeling.. ( you forgot the eaves slate lol)
Yes did spot that but to be honest the wood is now non existent below so any drips will only drop straight through anyway. 🙄
Not really a bodge, “needs must as the devil drives”
I hate ladders and commend you going that high
Health & Safety can be a killer 💷💷💷
Yep. So much better working off a safe platform where possible than trying to do it all off ladders.
As a roofer that would have cost £120 tops
Glad someone said it! I'd of probably charged £150 to be honest. But £900, this guy shouldn't be making video's. Hey lets show people how to do a shit job, rather than get a professional to sort it cheaper and better...
He says about expensive quotes, but they're for the full roof. Not a little repair.
@@damionoliver1078 i guess he over priced it because he didn't want the job.
Definitely, but not sure why as it's easy sorted. Most of costs would of been overheads.
it was a good job the 'HealthAndSafety Police' weren't touring your area when you put that scaffold up on your own - WITHOUT a Hard-Hat, Hi-Viz, Goggles, gloves and every OTHER 'Danger - To - Life' equipment that they 'dictate' we have to use when plain Common-Sense serves us just fine ......... Long live Common-sense - Happy Xmas :-)
Never mind whether it's a bodge or not..... Never ever work on a scaffold tower or ladders or roof on your own!
Speaking as a Roofer for over 20 years it's rule number 1.
I take my heath and safety teddy with me when i work alone.
You look like you need to go to bed for a week pal. Get some sleep.
That would be a good observation! 👍
that looked scary
Nail the first slate strap the last 😖
That roof needs repairing and faaaast.....you got your work cut out for 2020.....good luck, looking forward to it !
Mark Shaw It's fine- it's probably well over a century old, aside from a few slipped or cracked slated it will be fine for a good few years.
No real urgent issues, it’s managed 120 years without but work so only a slip here and there. It is however time to do an overhaul to see it good for another few decades.
Want to sell it ?
I guess Jo will not be helping you on that roof. You are on your own.
😂