Saying ‘ enhypen how you let rookie groups outdo you ‘ is crazy bcz enhypen were also rookies at the time of that encore, they improve a lot and you can’t compare enhypen rappers/ dancers to zb1s best vocalist it would be fair to use a recent encore and you would see how good they actually are and also add the part were the VOCALIST sings like you did for zb1, you literally cut heeseung and only added the members (who at the time) were not vocalists… so much for being unbiased.
@@Vivi.undercover05 this video is not biased.. MARK of NCT is also a rapper but he got singing parts in 90's Love & he forgot the lyrics.... if your idol made mistakes so be it, but constant mistake without improving is the problem
Exactly? They were rookies at the time of that encore, zerobaseone are also rookies, and yet you can clearly see who had better vocals. Enhypen definetly improved though!
Same fans that always brag about how their faves sound like studio ver. While dancing are the same whose faves cant even hold a note during encore 👀 😭😭😭😭
girl ?? like don't show that you're more or less biased on other groups bcz the hell was supposed to mean "txt - whatever this song is idk" or at least do some researches
With the respect that all groups deserve, there are no excuses for singing badly in an encore because they usually don't even dance at those moments. But hey, when your favorite group is Mamamoo, you get used to anything happening in an encore, unless they sing badly.
if u wanna be a kpop content creator atleast be professional about it 😭😭"txt - whatever this song is" ??? what the hell?? like atleast do proper research and dont be sloppy. half of the encores there weren't even that bad and they were just having fun.
Lmao the txt one. I was about to say how Yeonjun can SING, his vocals were just off from the award show the night before. Like don’t pick the worst moment out of all their encores 😭. But I’m glad you showed another clip and didn’t take that one clip as the give all take all like so many others did. Thanks for showing that groups can have off days, and good days.
your most welcome! i feel like kpop fans often tend to forget that having one bad encore doesn't necessarily mean an idol can't sing, we have bad and good vocal days. as i mentioned in the intro, this is a comparision between vocals, not groups. :)
You purposefully only showed the part of the performance where they did'nt sound good. Drunk-daze was thier first win as rookie and they progressed and did good in thier following performances. How about also showing the performance where they performed good like other artists in the video.
i remember MARKs sched during 90's Love was crazy!.if im not mistaken its NCT 2020,... MARK & HAECHAN was the bussiest idols jumping from NCT DREAM NCT U & NCT 127 activities
Why are you guys defending some of these groups like their entire jobs are not related to being able to sing good, dance good and perform good??? these arent some random people who got on the stage for fun, they are there for their job so yes even if its an encore there’s a valid expectation of hearing good vocals. that’s literally their lives and jobs.
You told enhypen how they let a rookie group outdo them but enhypen in that encore they were also rookies, they only had 6 months since their debut and it was their first win , if you see their last 2 encores they are really good but no you had to put their first win and even worse calling them experienced when they were also rookies. I invite you to watch their xo, bite me , blessed-cursed and their two tamed dashed encores .
@@Baldforenhypen except they aren’t dancing, they’re standing there. Also if the choreographies to hard for them to sing properly their already easy to sing songs then they need to start doing easier choreos 🤷♀️
@@dibidibidis3367 they were tired.... want do you want? Do you want them to rest in just 5 minutes? They are literally out of breath, sweating. That choreography is a living hell 😭
5:44 as a moa yes it's bad, but yeah I think this went viral and turns out they just comeback from Japan and straight to the there with no rest, and yeah Nmixx and aespa never disappoint when it comes to encore!! Can't even count how many times i watched dash encore 😂
the 90s love one is basically the unemployed one (sungchan since he didnt have a set subunit at the time), the one with no lines (winwin), and the rapper (mark) 😭😭 hilarious
Most of the boygroups here were not that bad. Mostly only few members struggled. While some of the girlgroups like Illit and IVE everyone struggled. Le Sserafim got carried by one member. Like the BTS On was not even that bad and Jin did better in the other encore. While every encore of Illit, IVE and Le Sserafim was bad. The NCT one did not even have most of its members and they only had the rappers.
@@Danielle_bunny girll their encores arent everything abt their vocals, talk abt them when you've gone to a 3-4 hr concert of them singing live throughout, if you have something to say then i'll accept ur opinion as valid. Kindly do research first. These encores are from like 3 years ago.
@@Yestry_Oinnie well im only human afterall 😭 but i tried my best not to play favourites because tbh i don’t even stan most of these groups (except aespa and the boyz i think) this isn’t just based on a specific encore but also based on overall vocal skill :)
(before some toxic onces bash this video) it's ok if idols have bad encores they still have plenty of good encores and the still have time to practice their vocals and also its not like every twice encore is in this video. (also i love ur videos!! ur so underatted!!)
@@chaeyoungslovie sorry because mostly ( but not all) in the bad encores twice is present and "some" toxic onces might get offended seeing their faves getting dragged also sorry if my comment offended you!
For drunk dazed, enhypen were literally rookies themselves and comparing them is basically u downgrading them directly and I didn’t like it but it’s ok it was your opinion. Future perfect- maybe they had a bad vocal day or smth cuz I ASSURE you they kill it with the live vocals in that song! I suggest you to see one of their tour future perfect encores, like it was a proper encore. They were dancing jumping running screaming AND singing. Also I get you pulled out their worst encores for the video but maybe I could’ve appreciated if u also showed their good ones? Literally everything except those two are good. Recent ones like bite me, xo they killed it. (Pls don’t take this in a wrong way I’m really trying to say in a very positive manner cuz this is your opinions I’m not trying to correct you, just suggesting 😭)
@@jiyagoyel2623 i appreciate your suggestion and have it noted! tbh i watched a good amount of encores and none of them sounded pleasing to me (it’s probably just my inner musician/vocalist senses tingling) i did however, find other clips of them singing but couldn’t add them in since they weren’t encores. which is why i said their encores aren’t bad but they can’t be considered good either 😭
Instead of comparing different groups, you should compare the groups themselves. It's like you want people to get mad. Also comparing different companies is not even close to fair. It's obvious they're all gonna sound different, cause they all were trained differently
@@_Wonnielvrs for example. As far as I know SM trainees are more trained in vocals, JYP is balanced and Hybe and YG are more into dancing. Also sometimes the conditions of the day weren't the best ( I mean Momo knew herself that.. whatever that was.. that's not what it should've been like, apart from her not singing with her actual voice) I mean how is a K-pop newbie supposed to know what it actually sounds like, when only the bad is shown..
@@T.Kenzaki well getting people mad means more reach for me so 😭 but on a serious note, i thought comparing the groups themselves wouldn’t make sense. as i said, it’s not about the groups, it’s the vocals. different idols will obviously have different ways of singing and i just wanted to show an example of how a good versus a bad encore sounds like since people these days think the bare minimum is good. that’s it, not that deep. i see your argument, though and will take a note of it in the future. thank you for watching!
This is exactly why I love bands more than the groups - they ALWAYS perform live and they do it so good, that we're left wondering if they ate their CDs.
as an enhypen ult stan, honestly I've always acknowledged that they're not that special as vocalists, of course heeseung stands out, sunoo too that man is fcking stable, but the others are average. and that's okay. good groups can have bad days too, and it's normal and totally fine. i just feel like you could've done it differently. now, i don't know a thing about zb1, but from what I've seen they're very good vocalists and confronting enha with them or svt felt like you wanted to bring down enhypen and their vocals on purpose. maybe next time you can confront a group's bad and good encore, not two groups. also, i feel like putting recent encores would be better since people change (in that drunk dazed encore literally half of them were going through puberty so of course their voices and vocals are different now). and for the txt thing, that was hilarious but come on how is “deja vu” long😭
that drunkdazed enhypen encore 😥, jungwon is my bias and ofc his voice is unique. But his part on that Drunk dazed sounded really really muffled, playing zerobaseone next just shows the huge difference in vocals I love both tzuyu&Liz composure&eye contact eventhough they are both struggling esp liz but still manages to finish the note
I don’t really understand why you go so much into Enhypen ,they genuinely have one of the best vocals and are getting better and better by day encores are meant to be fun ,just chill out ,you are ridiculous 😂
3:45 This is just baffling to me because she can hold decent notes when they're higher but lines that are basically just spoken have her fighting for her life?? It truly seems like she's not used to anything other than nasally, barely supported vocals and has never once tried doing anything different in her life.
not all these comments trying to excuse the fact that their faves can’t sing live 😳 the reason kpop companies are able to get away with debuting all of these groups that aren’t vocally good is because fans will eat literally any dookie up atp it’s not wrong to point out that enhypen’s encore stages weren’t great in their early debut days and even now many members technique is still struggling. simply, companies shouldn’t be able to get away with this level of incompetence in debuting ppl who can’t even sing when one of their main job requirements is meant to be able to sing decently. not asking for any mariah careys but the least u can do is respect the consumers and allow actual talented ppl to become idols. this is what happens in a society where they care about looks to a bizarre degree smh
@@mynaori zerobaseone’s encore is better in terms of skills, than enhypen’s though… i’m sorry but i don’t think she said anything blatantly disrespectful in the vid, she was just showing good & bad encore stages, it’s not her fault that enhypen has several bad ones
@@mynaori also i wanna add that a lot of it comes down to the company’s fault. they need to invest more time and money into providing proper vocal training to idols! AND they need to give them songs that are actually in their range, cos otherwise the idols obviously are gonna fumble the live stages cos the song/their part in the song ain’t in their vocal range.
I love how all the groups with bad encores are groups that people will swear on their lives sing live ☠️ like your fav can’t even hold a note standing still and you want to say they’re singing 100% live while doing some intricate ass choreo 🙏😭
I think it'll be better if you put more of the recent encores rather than the ones from the past because of course, most of these bad vocal groups were definitely lacking in vocals a few years ago like ive, enhypen, nct and more. I personally feel like the newer groups practice their vocals more because its pretty obvious that if you don't do well on encores you'll get flamed on every social media website. This is just a suggestion if you plan on making more videos like this !
And I'd like to point out, the only thing brutal here is you trying your very best to bad mouth Enhypen for no good reason??? "Comparing Enha and SVT is brutal", be fr, both are amazing groups.
comparing enhypen and seventeen IS brutal. seventeen are senior and experienced artists with some of the best and well trained vocalists while enhypen still have room for improvement and haven’t really proved their vocal skills yet (atleast not like seventeen has)
I feel like some groups are overworked so they can't sing properly while others don't have enough experience singing without backtrack to match the pitch and tempo of the song so they sound bad. Also, some can't hear themselves properly because of bad or not working in-ears... And lastly, idols are people too, so they get nervous or stressed, you can critique them if all the performances are bad but if you are cherry-picking bad ones then you are just being mean and borderline bullying them... Also, why are you being mean to Enhypen for no reason? You purposely chose their first win so they were probably very nervous and they even skipped some parts because they don't have to sing those parts with a backtrack... And if you watched the whole performance it was still not horrible just some members struggled with high notes.
Exactly what I thought. Enhypen was doing just fine and they are good vocalists. People can't even tolerate idols having fun and have to forcefully put them in "bad" category the moment they just let go of the stress and try to enjoy their win.
im gonna get shat on for this but that nct encore proves that winwin brings nothing to nct besides his visuals he cant sing or rap. Like mark was carying that encore and sungchan was trying his best but winwin was literally running away from even bringing that mic anywhere near his mouth
@@D3CALC0MANIE this‼️ i understand i wasn’t the nicest in the video but people are taking this too seriously. i just wanted to show examples of how a bad and a good encore sounds like since fans seem to forget how an encore actually should sound like since people nowadays praise the bare minimum 😭
I feel like encores really don't matter that much,cuz I've seen singers do so much better in live performances than encore, so many just have fun on encores.
I feel like the reason encodes matter now is cause a lot of "live" performances aren't really live. And sometimes for some artists, they rely on backtrack when actually performing live so you don't get a chance to hear them live at all.
@@Gold3nPanda your funny! if u cant do encore well, how much more live?... other groups uses recorded songs during performance thats why you cant hear the sounds of their breaths...stop being delusional...
ponía uno del año de la papa y boom ya todo su esfuerzo reducido a *ese* encore del 2021 donde apenas y era su primer win y obviamente estaban emocionales
At least the music is good. As a Blink, ReVeluv and My I have never really became their fan for their vocals, but mostly because I enjoy the music. I will have a problem if I pay for a concert and all I receive is playback, loud backtrack and just dancing. But as long as I have Spotify I don't mind if idols can or cannot sing. Unfortunately, their songs are often not in their range and that causes a problem. If you are an experienced singer like Ningning, Winter, Rosé or Wendy you should cover many ranges but if you are less experienced in the singing category then that factor will cause you a problem.
7:15 Then why didn’t you just compare Enhypen to their own good encore like you did with Twice and BTS instead of comparing them to other groups if you would’ve just compared every group to themselves maybe there you would’ve been able to show what valid constructive criticism is
@@_Wonnielvrs i couldn’t find a good one? that’s what the text says 😭 im not saying enha are bad singers i js couldn’t find one lmao. i did however, come across other clips but couldn’t add them in since they weren’t encores.
@@shotanextdoor HELP no way u just said that and I agree with you you she didn’t say anything when it was lesserafim or illit you just wanna protect your dear bg but not gg.
this was a very interesting video but i’d just like to mention that you said your point wasn’t to compare groups but vocals only, while at 3:37 you literally put one group on top of another by saying they outdid enhypen. my intention isn’t to attack you and your content bc i think encores are being so scrutinised lately that it’s natural we discuss abt it, but it would’ve been best to stay true to your word and solely discuss vocals. using old clips from debut/rookie days without showing the improvement the group has achieved could lead to misinformation and unnecessary hate. opinions are more than valid ofc, but this was supposed to be discussing vocals solely.
@@XingX_love_riel this wasn’t my point at all ofc i acknowledge enha in their debut era weren’t as good vocally-wise as zb1 at the same time, but we were supposed to compare solely vocals and not groups.
5:40 based on their hands being next to their ears, they probably can't hear themselves through the screen 🤔 I sing, and when the music is too loud or the screen is not loud enough, I basically catch the sound coming out of my mouth and channel it with my hand to my ear
I think Twice, Txt and Enhypen's performances are like secret santa gifts. Sometimes you get some really good stuff and sometimes you get a piece of garbage.
I think encores are suppose to be fun , not serious. They out there singing and enjoying with the fans. Its a celebration right ? They are celebrating while being goofy.
I really appreciate you about this video or you didn't support any toxicity here most of the group stan be like hybe boy groups are like good vocals bruh .yes some time except seventeen. I don't forget to subscribe you 😅
I watched the whole thing like i get your point, but you seriously handled the situation really badly. Comparing groups, showing video from centuries ago, and etc. i feel like you could have told your message but in a nicer way like comparing groups to the groups themselves. The txt one was just disrespectful.. like couldn't you search the song up? I didn't even listen to that song or listen to txt that much but if you're gonna make a video about them then you should also do some research about them and make sure there won't be any mistakes.
@@SunsamstansTXTsaying i don’t like txt when i complimented taehyun, mentioned they are good singers AND showed a good clip of them singing the same song is crazy 😭 y’all would do anything to victimise these (grown) men.
I didn't expect this amount of damage in the comments 😂 Love watching insecure people basing their life on celebrities and then getting hurt if the celebrities don't do something perfect or have flaws, and starting blaming others for pointing it out. The delulu is SO REAL
@@cosmowhiskey1675 im not saying im a 100% right because i definitely am not but some of these people put idols on a pedestal and treat them like some sort of divine entity when some of them can barely do their jobs right 😭
@@karinluvsina and you didn't even write anything offensive, you simply showed bad encores 💀 We can only imagine what damage would've been done if you had commented more on it. Lives would've been destroyed 😔🙏🏻
wait the more i watched, i realized some of them aren't even bad?? am i missing something. TXT was fine? Itzy was fine? what am I missing? even though lesserafim are not the greatest vocalists, that specific encore wasn't the worst? even wonhee was singing properly? i'm confused? and liz's high note in I AM? I know that it's all up to speculation, but at the same time, some of these groups were not inherently BAD at the encore thing like you are saying? no hate at all all love but i'm confused
@@aarushimyers7740 well they kinda are 😭 im not sure if i am the only one able to catch it because im a vocalist but yeonjun was out of breath, yeji had no support and was screaming for her life, sakura and chaewon were singing off pitch. wonhee’s wasn’t particularly BAD but not the best either, she was off by a tad. liz’s high note was strained with her struggles sounding prominent which is all the producer’s fault BECAUSE LIKE WHY WOULD U PICK A SONG THAT HIGH??? i get your confusion and i don’t blame you at all! i should’ve been more proper with my reasonings. sorry about that!
@@Golden_kookno. u dont know the meaning of being “biased”. admin never said that THEYRE THE BEST AND THEY HAVE NO BAD ENCORES (unlike the one u replied to). i mean, its just examples of bad and great vocals TOTALLY not comparing groups or their whole career. also, im glad you have watched bp’s encores, as a non-blink, u must be so obsessed😩stream your own fav, watch your own fav
i will be honest ur points were valid but u just recklessly compared enha with vocally based it feels like ur purposely downgrading them and during drunk dazed except heesueng i think all of them were teens and going through puberty u should use recent encore stages
There is a good encore is where they sound good and have good vocals bad encores are the opposite. Stayc and Nmixx for example show that you can have fun while also sounding good.
@@w0nyst0e nono im talking about why there are videos like this talking about encores😭😭 usually idols do encores to celebrate their win with fans, not to showcase their singing
tbh i don't think any girl group can sing twice's songs lol. maybe red velvet, but they might struggle too. they are THAT high. so impressive tbh. same goes to enhypen 'cause enhypen and twice are my ults. their songs are more high-pitched but recently, it's in their vocal ranges
@@SunsamstansTXT ??? i literally complimented taehyun AND showed a good clip of them singing. it’s not my fault y’all sensitive ass fans can’t tolerate any sorta criticism or joke towards ur little boos. these are grown men, by the way. y’all don’t even know what these guys are like irl 😭
@@karinluvsinaBut you didn’t even try to get the name of their most recent song?😭 I appreciate that you’re bringing these problems up and aren’t trying to make it seem like it’s fine when it clearly isn’t, but you could’ve done more.
i dare to say, Momo sound strained on the more&more encore but yall are reaching, that's exactly how she sound on the mv of course, it's not a good vocal "showcase" either, but jyp used to give her lines that require a higher voice when her tone of voice is clearly lower, way lower now days she sings on her range and it's way better (and there's nothing wrong with fancy one, gtfo)
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nct doesn’t fumble majority of the time 😭 they fr had three rappers singing in that encore 😭
@@padoenthusiast I KNOW I KNOW I JUST ADDED IT FOR FUNSIES CHECK THE TEXTS IVE BEEN AN NCT STAN SINCE 2018 😭😭
And they didn't even remember the lyrics lol so funny 😂
Short sentence trigger me
@@wongpentelglobalwhy tho
we just laugh everytime 90's love mentioned
tbh you can say whatever you want about nmixx.. but saying that they can’t sing is just a LIE 😭
Saying ‘ enhypen how you let rookie groups outdo you ‘ is crazy bcz enhypen were also rookies at the time of that encore, they improve a lot and you can’t compare enhypen rappers/ dancers to zb1s best vocalist it would be fair to use a recent encore and you would see how good they actually are and also add the part were the VOCALIST sings like you did for zb1, you literally cut heeseung and only added the members (who at the time) were not vocalists… so much for being unbiased.
@@Vivi.undercover05 this video is not biased.. MARK of NCT is also a rapper but he got singing parts in 90's Love & he forgot the lyrics.... if your idol made mistakes so be it, but constant mistake without improving is the problem
Exactly? They were rookies at the time of that encore, zerobaseone are also rookies, and yet you can clearly see who had better vocals. Enhypen definetly improved though!
ou u ate lowkey, like i get that at the time enha werent the best vocally but now like they are thriving so her adding the old clip was wild
@@faithcatapan3337that isnt the only comment in sentence, its mostly abt enha😨
Liz carried the I AM encore with all her best
To be fair, TXT also had very good encores for the Deja Vu. The Music Bank one, for example.
Tbh enha improved so much esp Jay and jungwon
Youll never hear bad encors from sm artists especially red velvet and aespa even bp never had a bad encore
Same fans that always brag about how their faves sound like studio ver. While dancing are the same whose faves cant even hold a note during encore 👀 😭😭😭😭
girl ?? like don't show that you're more or less biased on other groups bcz the hell was supposed to mean "txt - whatever this song is idk" or at least do some researches
With the respect that all groups deserve, there are no excuses for singing badly in an encore because they usually don't even dance at those moments. But hey, when your favorite group is Mamamoo, you get used to anything happening in an encore, unless they sing badly.
if u wanna be a kpop content creator atleast be professional about it 😭😭"txt - whatever this song is" ??? what the hell?? like atleast do proper research and dont be sloppy. half of the encores there weren't even that bad and they were just having fun.
@@kaiiioio it’s a joke 😭 to be fair txt song titles are long as fuck i aint memorising that shit
@@karinluvsina the title is literally deja vu.... hows that long
@@karinluvsina "Deja Vu" isn't a long title tho
Bro its just deja vu like 2 words 🤡@@karinluvsina
@@karinluvsinaDeja vu is literally two words
Lmao the txt one. I was about to say how Yeonjun can SING, his vocals were just off from the award show the night before. Like don’t pick the worst moment out of all their encores 😭. But I’m glad you showed another clip and didn’t take that one clip as the give all take all like so many others did. Thanks for showing that groups can have off days, and good days.
your most welcome! i feel like kpop fans often tend to forget that having one bad encore doesn't necessarily mean an idol can't sing, we have bad and good vocal days. as i mentioned in the intro, this is a comparision between vocals, not groups. :)
You purposefully only showed the part of the performance where they did'nt sound good. Drunk-daze was thier first win as rookie and they progressed and did good in thier following performances. How about also showing the performance where they performed good like other artists in the video.
I feel like Billlie is another group who isn't afraid of encores my girls KNOW how to sing AND dance at the same time
@@narilily GOTTA CHECK THEM OUT TY
SME never misses with the vocals. Unlike some one else…
YES IM TALIING ABOUT YOU HYBE😭😭
literally the only thing sm stans can brag about, and having red velvet obviously
i remember MARKs sched during 90's Love was crazy!.if im not mistaken its NCT 2020,... MARK & HAECHAN was the bussiest idols jumping from NCT DREAM NCT U & NCT 127 activities
ENCORES SHOULD BE FUN BUT IDOLS JOB IS TO SING AND DANCE
Why are you guys defending some of these groups like their entire jobs are not related to being able to sing good, dance good and perform good??? these arent some random people who got on the stage for fun, they are there for their job so yes even if its an encore there’s a valid expectation of hearing good vocals. that’s literally their lives and jobs.
You told enhypen how they let a rookie group outdo them but enhypen in that encore they were also rookies, they only had 6 months since their debut and it was their first win , if you see their last 2 encores they are really good but no you had to put their first win and even worse calling them experienced when they were also rookies. I invite you to watch their xo, bite me , blessed-cursed and their two tamed dashed encores .
Ok that’s your excuse for drunk dazed now what about pass the mic? All the other encores you named where painfully underwhelming ☠️
@@dibidibidis3367just to you duhh... It's so good in fact idk what makes you say this
@@dibidibidis3367bro obviously they gonna sound like that in pass the mic, that's literally the most hard choreography in Enhypen 💀
@@Baldforenhypen except they aren’t dancing, they’re standing there. Also if the choreographies to hard for them to sing properly their already easy to sing songs then they need to start doing easier choreos 🤷♀️
@@dibidibidis3367 they were tired.... want do you want? Do you want them to rest in just 5 minutes? They are literally out of breath, sweating. That choreography is a living hell 😭
NMIXX Mentioned! They can bring the encores both Fun and Actual Talent. One of the best groups, period.
Not making excuses, but some idols can have bad vocal days, like they are human just like everyone else
@@Nora_a_1013 yeahh! that’s exactly what i tried to show in the txt one lol :”)
@@karinluvsina Yeah I know, good thing that you did that too, I was just talking overall :)
i feel like it’s just varies cause good groups can have bad encores too
exactly, like for example txt and enhypen
Why is mamamoo not mentioned here 😭 mamamoo are like the best at encores
@@annoyingzebra7460 FUCK I COMPLETELY FORGOT 😭
They the queens of kpop!!!
@@karinluvsinalanguages 😅
thst was enhas first encore pleaseeee sunoo was literally about to cry
no wonder it sounded weird i was wondering why heesung was the only one properly singing 😭😭
@@karinluvsina TGEY WERE SO CUTE THOO
The 90s love one takes me out every time like why were none of the vocalists there😭
@@i_332 THEY SET THEM UP I SWEAR
@@i_332 ten & haechan
I feel like you should’ve shown a good encore vs bad encore with the same groups instead of putting one for bad and a different one for good😊
@@citrusfroot7341 maybe bcos some groups dont really have bad encores
5:44 as a moa yes it's bad, but yeah I think this went viral and turns out they just comeback from Japan and straight to the there with no rest, and yeah Nmixx and aespa never disappoint when it comes to encore!! Can't even count how many times i watched dash encore 😂
It was but they apologised for having worse vocals that usually
the 90s love one is basically the unemployed one (sungchan since he didnt have a set subunit at the time), the one with no lines (winwin), and the rapper (mark) 😭😭 hilarious
"they were not ready" like lol they are paid to sing and trained to sing
BG stans are so big they get away with bad encores etc…what a double Standard
bg stans scare the ever living shit out of me they’re crazy
@@karinluvsina ikr
Most of the boygroups here were not that bad. Mostly only few members struggled. While some of the girlgroups like Illit and IVE everyone struggled. Le Sserafim got carried by one member. Like the BTS On was not even that bad and Jin did better in the other encore. While every encore of Illit, IVE and Le Sserafim was bad. The NCT one did not even have most of its members and they only had the rappers.
@@vixxexo6855 I’m referring to enhypen
@@Danielle_bunny girll their encores arent everything abt their vocals, talk abt them when you've gone to a 3-4 hr concert of them singing live throughout, if you have something to say then i'll accept ur opinion as valid. Kindly do research first. These encores are from like 3 years ago.
SNSD encore stage? More like: Let's do the whole performance again 😂
Bruh TXT just performed and also just landed in here after a tight schedule overseas!
lets be honest this is so biased.
@@Yestry_Oinnie well im only human afterall 😭 but i tried my best not to play favourites because tbh i don’t even stan most of these groups (except aespa and the boyz i think) this isn’t just based on a specific encore but also based on overall vocal skill :)
Fr
Yesssss i agreee
how is it biased they're just showing examples of bad and good encores. it's not their fault ur favs sound bad live
How?
Yeonjun was rlly tired in the Deja vu encore but Yeonjun and TXT R rlly good singers.
it literally says "nvm it was a bad vocal day" at the end of the clip 😭 please watch the whole video
Truee
(before some toxic onces bash this video) it's ok if idols have bad encores they still have plenty of good encores and the still have time to practice their vocals and also its not like every twice encore is in this video. (also i love ur videos!! ur so underatted!!)
tysm!! means a lot and yes i completely agree :)
Why do you kpop fans always point out onces being toxic when we just defend our faves? Meanwhile kpop fans dragging twice everywhere-
@@chaeyoungslovie sorry because mostly ( but not all) in the bad encores twice is present and "some" toxic onces might get offended seeing their faves getting dragged also sorry if my comment offended you!
we do not talk about 90's love encore...... I LOVE THE FACT THAT SUNGCHAN AND WINWIN GOT TO BE ON BUT YOU BASICALLY SENT ALL THE RAPPERS... 😭😭
@@winwintea they have TEN & Haechan
“this video will not be targeted negatively towards a certain group”
“how’d you let a rookie group out sing you”
embarrassing
@@seungmindestroyer nahh if that’s what got y’all pissed i envy you y’all must lead a very easy life 😭😭
@@seungmindestroyer your comment is really embarrassing, we love a self-aware queen 😍
Finally The boyz encore appreciation ❤️🔥🙏🏻
@@caratheblife they’re my ults🤭
For drunk dazed, enhypen were literally rookies themselves and comparing them is basically u downgrading them directly and I didn’t like it but it’s ok it was your opinion. Future perfect- maybe they had a bad vocal day or smth cuz I ASSURE you they kill it with the live vocals in that song! I suggest you to see one of their tour future perfect encores, like it was a proper encore. They were dancing jumping running screaming AND singing. Also I get you pulled out their worst encores for the video but maybe I could’ve appreciated if u also showed their good ones? Literally everything except those two are good. Recent ones like bite me, xo they killed it. (Pls don’t take this in a wrong way I’m really trying to say in a very positive manner cuz this is your opinions I’m not trying to correct you, just suggesting 😭)
@@jiyagoyel2623 i appreciate your suggestion and have it noted! tbh i watched a good amount of encores and none of them sounded pleasing to me (it’s probably just my inner musician/vocalist senses tingling) i did however, find other clips of them singing but couldn’t add them in since they weren’t encores. which is why i said their encores aren’t bad but they can’t be considered good either 😭
Instead of comparing different groups, you should compare the groups themselves. It's like you want people to get mad. Also comparing different companies is not even close to fair. It's obvious they're all gonna sound different, cause they all were trained differently
This is so true sure the Industry is competitive but what does that have to do with comparing other groups skills to your obvious faves
@@_Wonnielvrs for example. As far as I know SM trainees are more trained in vocals, JYP is balanced and Hybe and YG are more into dancing. Also sometimes the conditions of the day weren't the best ( I mean Momo knew herself that.. whatever that was.. that's not what it should've been like, apart from her not singing with her actual voice)
I mean how is a K-pop newbie supposed to know what it actually sounds like, when only the bad is shown..
@@T.Kenzaki well getting people mad means more reach for me so 😭 but on a serious note, i thought comparing the groups themselves wouldn’t make sense. as i said, it’s not about the groups, it’s the vocals. different idols will obviously have different ways of singing and i just wanted to show an example of how a good versus a bad encore sounds like since people these days think the bare minimum is good. that’s it, not that deep. i see your argument, though and will take a note of it in the future. thank you for watching!
@@karinluvsina "Hearing" your reasons for why you cut the video the way you did makes more sense now but at first it felt like an Idol War..
Well what if some group doesn't have good one?
This is exactly why I love bands more than the groups - they ALWAYS perform live and they do it so good, that we're left wondering if they ate their CDs.
as an enhypen ult stan, honestly I've always acknowledged that they're not that special as vocalists, of course heeseung stands out, sunoo too that man is fcking stable, but the others are average. and that's okay. good groups can have bad days too, and it's normal and totally fine. i just feel like you could've done it differently. now, i don't know a thing about zb1, but from what I've seen they're very good vocalists and confronting enha with them or svt felt like you wanted to bring down enhypen and their vocals on purpose. maybe next time you can confront a group's bad and good encore, not two groups. also, i feel like putting recent encores would be better since people change (in that drunk dazed encore literally half of them were going through puberty so of course their voices and vocals are different now). and for the txt thing, that was hilarious but come on how is “deja vu” long😭
@@mari_enhasver yes thanks for the suggestion! i’ve taken note of it. also i was not actually serious i knew the title was deja vu haha 😭😭
@@karinluvsinaits was so obv like not some insecure people attacking for it💀
that drunkdazed enhypen encore 😥, jungwon is my bias and ofc his voice is unique. But his part on that Drunk dazed sounded really really muffled, playing zerobaseone next just shows the huge difference in vocals
I love both tzuyu&Liz composure&eye contact eventhough they are both struggling esp liz but still manages to finish the note
I loved when Liz and Tzuyu tried to sing the parts higher than there range with confidence and didn’t skipped or act like they missed it
I don’t really understand why you go so much into Enhypen ,they genuinely have one of the best vocals and are getting better and better by day encores are meant to be fun ,just chill out ,you are ridiculous 😂
right after i went on a whole rampage about how having “fun” is not an excuse to sing bad…y’all never learn 😭
Well it's about that specific encore...
@@karinluvsina ikr there are so many encores where people were having fun while singing good
3:45 This is just baffling to me because she can hold decent notes when they're higher but lines that are basically just spoken have her fighting for her life?? It truly seems like she's not used to anything other than nasally, barely supported vocals and has never once tried doing anything different in her life.
not all these comments trying to excuse the fact that their faves can’t sing live 😳
the reason kpop companies are able to get away with debuting all of these groups that aren’t vocally good is because fans will eat literally any dookie up atp
it’s not wrong to point out that enhypen’s encore stages weren’t great in their early debut days and even now many members technique is still struggling. simply, companies shouldn’t be able to get away with this level of incompetence in debuting ppl who can’t even sing when one of their main job requirements is meant to be able to sing decently. not asking for any mariah careys but the least u can do is respect the consumers and allow actual talented ppl to become idols. this is what happens in a society where they care about looks to a bizarre degree smh
its not that they cant sing live but its just that shes bringing other groups down too like...
@@mynaori how? she's just showing their live encore stages. their abilities in those stages speaks for itself.
@@umi8 go to 3:36
@@mynaori zerobaseone’s encore is better in terms of skills, than enhypen’s though… i’m sorry but i don’t think she said anything blatantly disrespectful in the vid, she was just showing good & bad encore stages, it’s not her fault that enhypen has several bad ones
@@mynaori also i wanna add that a lot of it comes down to the company’s fault. they need to invest more time and money into providing proper vocal training to idols! AND they need to give them songs that are actually in their range, cos otherwise the idols obviously are gonna fumble the live stages cos the song/their part in the song ain’t in their vocal range.
4:11 this isn't that BAD like you said💀
yeah, but it’s still bad. i blame the producers for making a good song sound like it’s sung by alvin and the chipmunks due to how high it is.
I love how all the groups with bad encores are groups that people will swear on their lives sing live ☠️ like your fav can’t even hold a note standing still and you want to say they’re singing 100% live while doing some intricate ass choreo 🙏😭
So true
THE BOYZ MENTIONED
@@Sunandwoo I WILL NEVER LEAVE THEM OUT THEY ARE MY ULTS‼️‼️‼️
for me ive not bad
@@euphoriarevival the producers messed up. it’s such a good song it sounds like alvin and the chipmunks due to how high it is 😭
I think it'll be better if you put more of the recent encores rather than the ones from the past because of course, most of these bad vocal groups were definitely lacking in vocals a few years ago like ive, enhypen, nct and more. I personally feel like the newer groups practice their vocals more because its pretty obvious that if you don't do well on encores you'll get flamed on every social media website. This is just a suggestion if you plan on making more videos like this !
@@StellzHuxley thank you for the suggestion! i’ll keep this in mind :)
And I'd like to point out, the only thing brutal here is you trying your very best to bad mouth Enhypen for no good reason??? "Comparing Enha and SVT is brutal", be fr, both are amazing groups.
comparing enhypen and seventeen IS brutal. seventeen are senior and experienced artists with some of the best and well trained vocalists while enhypen still have room for improvement and haven’t really proved their vocal skills yet (atleast not like seventeen has)
5:37 the disrespect lol 😭
VOCALBASEONE MENTIONED RAHHHHHHH
I feel like some groups are overworked so they can't sing properly while others don't have enough experience singing without backtrack to match the pitch and tempo of the song so they sound bad. Also, some can't hear themselves properly because of bad or not working in-ears... And lastly, idols are people too, so they get nervous or stressed, you can critique them if all the performances are bad but if you are cherry-picking bad ones then you are just being mean and borderline bullying them... Also, why are you being mean to Enhypen for no reason? You purposely chose their first win so they were probably very nervous and they even skipped some parts because they don't have to sing those parts with a backtrack... And if you watched the whole performance it was still not horrible just some members struggled with high notes.
Exactly what I thought. Enhypen was doing just fine and they are good vocalists. People can't even tolerate idols having fun and have to forcefully put them in "bad" category the moment they just let go of the stress and try to enjoy their win.
I was wondering why you didn't put any svt encore to show good ones but then you wrote what you wrote 💀💀💀
I’m obsessed with watching Miroric encore stages 10/10
im gonna get shat on for this but that nct encore proves that winwin brings nothing to nct besides his visuals he cant sing or rap. Like mark was carying that encore and sungchan was trying his best but winwin was literally running away from even bringing that mic anywhere near his mouth
i am encore is so good
well.
why are y'all crying in the comments? op is just showing examples of good and bad encores
@@D3CALC0MANIE this‼️ i understand i wasn’t the nicest in the video but people are taking this too seriously. i just wanted to show examples of how a bad and a good encore sounds like since fans seem to forget how an encore actually should sound like since people nowadays praise the bare minimum 😭
@@D3CALC0MANIE Biased*******
Exactly😅
I feel like encores really don't matter that much,cuz I've seen singers do so much better in live performances than encore, so many just have fun on encores.
I feel like the reason encodes matter now is cause a lot of "live" performances aren't really live. And sometimes for some artists, they rely on backtrack when actually performing live so you don't get a chance to hear them live at all.
Encores are the only place to get actual live singing now.
@@Gold3nPanda your funny! if u cant do encore well, how much more live?... other groups uses recorded songs during performance thats why you cant hear the sounds of their breaths...stop being delusional...
You can have fun while also sounding good
@@w0nyst0e yeah best example is aespa in their spicy encore
Its good to see THE BOYZ here but
I hope you include at least one of iKON too
They are good at encores too😂😅❤
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Le tiraba hate a enhypen we, nada más ponía que sus encores eran malos
ponía uno del año de la papa y boom ya todo su esfuerzo reducido a *ese* encore del 2021 donde apenas y era su primer win y obviamente estaban emocionales
At least the music is good. As a Blink, ReVeluv and My I have never really became their fan for their vocals, but mostly because I enjoy the music. I will have a problem if I pay for a concert and all I receive is playback, loud backtrack and just dancing. But as long as I have Spotify I don't mind if idols can or cannot sing. Unfortunately, their songs are often not in their range and that causes a problem. If you are an experienced singer like Ningning, Winter, Rosé or Wendy you should cover many ranges but if you are less experienced in the singing category then that factor will cause you a problem.
7:15 Then why didn’t you just compare Enhypen to their own good encore like you did with Twice and BTS instead of comparing them to other groups if you would’ve just compared every group to themselves maybe there you would’ve been able to show what valid constructive criticism is
@@_Wonnielvrs i couldn’t find a good one? that’s what the text says 😭 im not saying enha are bad singers i js couldn’t find one lmao. i did however, come across other clips but couldn’t add them in since they weren’t encores.
@@karinluvsina You’re telling you couldn’t find one good Enhypen encore?
@@_WonnielvrsYup! Good comprehension skills!! ♥️
@@shotanextdoor HELP no way u just said that and I agree with you you she didn’t say anything when it was lesserafim or illit you just wanna protect your dear bg but not gg.
@@Anxietyismygf ILLIT has one good encore but they’ve just debuted and LSF have quite a lot of good encores though
this was a very interesting video but i’d just like to mention that you said your point wasn’t to compare groups but vocals only, while at 3:37 you literally put one group on top of another by saying they outdid enhypen. my intention isn’t to attack you and your content bc i think encores are being so scrutinised lately that it’s natural we discuss abt it, but it would’ve been best to stay true to your word and solely discuss vocals. using old clips from debut/rookie days without showing the improvement the group has achieved could lead to misinformation and unnecessary hate. opinions are more than valid ofc, but this was supposed to be discussing vocals solely.
The fact is both of two groups came from survival shows and that clip of zerobaseone is also their debut song encore 👄
@@XingX_love_riel this wasn’t my point at all ofc i acknowledge enha in their debut era weren’t as good vocally-wise as zb1 at the same time, but we were supposed to compare solely vocals and not groups.
5:40 based on their hands being next to their ears, they probably can't hear themselves through the screen 🤔 I sing, and when the music is too loud or the screen is not loud enough, I basically catch the sound coming out of my mouth and channel it with my hand to my ear
Some personal recommendations for legendary encore stages would have to be Shinee’s Dream Girl and EXO’s Lome me right
I think Twice, Txt and Enhypen's performances are like secret santa gifts. Sometimes you get some really good stuff and sometimes you get a piece of garbage.
Think before adding TXT
@@SunsamstansTXT don't worry, their "bad performances" aren't often and isn't the le sserafim type 💓
@@SunsamstansTXT they don’t usually have “ bad “ performances, they just often feel very lifeless
@@dibidibidis3367 I don't agree
i cant believe zero base one is so foking underrated 😭😭😭
@@killerpanda2086 ikr! it’s kinda astonishing considering they debuted from such a huge survival show.
@@karinluvsina Sweat shouldve been their espresso.
their music is truly a vibe
bye the first hashtag being #illit 💀💀💀
@@jennie.chanel. I DIDNT DO THAT PURPOSELY I SWEAR 😭😭
5:43 I feel like if ur making a video inc,using a group you should at least know that the songs called 😭
I think encores are suppose to be fun , not serious. They out there singing and enjoying with the fans. Its a celebration right ? They are celebrating while being goofy.
@@heyyou7121 you can have fun while also singing good
@@w0nyst0e y si no quieren? xdios KWKDKZ
@@snmnt11it's not that they don't want to it's just that they are not good😂
Nmixx & aespa 💅🏻✨
Honestly I think Ive I am is not that bad but I do agree that they seems to be struggling a lot.
I really appreciate you about this video or you didn't support any toxicity here most of the group stan be like hybe boy groups are like good vocals bruh .yes some time except seventeen. I don't forget to subscribe you 😅
"whatever this song is" be serious
i know the title was deja vu it was a lame joke leave me alone 😭😭😭
Aunty Jimin is the real legend of a worst encore.
Um aunty?
And people are even liking this???
the good bts clip had their vocals in the backing track?
yeah i noticed that too! but it’s still an encore afterall so 😭
I watched the whole thing like i get your point, but you seriously handled the situation really badly. Comparing groups, showing video from centuries ago, and etc. i feel like you could have told your message but in a nicer way like comparing groups to the groups themselves. The txt one was just disrespectful.. like couldn't you search the song up? I didn't even listen to that song or listen to txt that much but if you're gonna make a video about them then you should also do some research about them and make sure there won't be any mistakes.
Fr she just doesn't like TXT...Proves right and also understanding the situation in which they were singing is important!
@@SunsamstansTXTsaying i don’t like txt when i complimented taehyun, mentioned they are good singers AND showed a good clip of them singing the same song is crazy 😭 y’all would do anything to victimise these (grown) men.
I didn't expect this amount of damage in the comments 😂 Love watching insecure people basing their life on celebrities and then getting hurt if the celebrities don't do something perfect or have flaws, and starting blaming others for pointing it out. The delulu is SO REAL
@@cosmowhiskey1675 im not saying im a 100% right because i definitely am not but some of these people put idols on a pedestal and treat them like some sort of divine entity when some of them can barely do their jobs right 😭
@@karinluvsina and you didn't even write anything offensive, you simply showed bad encores 💀 We can only imagine what damage would've been done if you had commented more on it. Lives would've been destroyed 😔🙏🏻
Notice how it’s mainly fans of groups from the yellow company also ☠️
@@dibidibidis3367fr😂
@@karinluvsinayour video is amazing 😍
ningning 😍
dreamcatcher. bonvoyage.
4:38 ningning mother🙈🙈
STUNNING NING ❤
MARK SO CUTE AWWW KWKWLWKWLWİDJEJWOİSJWKWİWNWWOWİNWJW 😭😭
@@euphoriarevival IKRRRR
3:36 unliked so fast cuz wth
Enhypen can sing it’s just that some members struggle with hitting notes
@@w0nyst0e ikr, all of them can sing perfectly but the song was too high for them
Because it’s true ☠️
@@dibidibidis3367 it's NOT 🥰
@@Lovesstay_8 but it is ☠️ it’s literally happening as we speak
wait the more i watched, i realized some of them aren't even bad?? am i missing something. TXT was fine? Itzy was fine? what am I missing? even though lesserafim are not the greatest vocalists, that specific encore wasn't the worst? even wonhee was singing properly? i'm confused? and liz's high note in I AM? I know that it's all up to speculation, but at the same time, some of these groups were not inherently BAD at the encore thing like you are saying? no hate at all all love but i'm confused
@@aarushimyers7740 well they kinda are 😭 im not sure if i am the only one able to catch it because im a vocalist but yeonjun was out of breath, yeji had no support and was screaming for her life, sakura and chaewon were singing off pitch. wonhee’s wasn’t particularly BAD but not the best either, she was off by a tad. liz’s high note was strained with her struggles sounding prominent which is all the producer’s fault BECAUSE LIKE WHY WOULD U PICK A SONG THAT HIGH??? i get your confusion and i don’t blame you at all! i should’ve been more proper with my reasonings. sorry about that!
Fr
Gurl, they WERE bad 💀 I guess you're blessed for not hearing it
@@cosmowhiskey1675 they weren't the best for sure
So true with blackpink blackpink encores never miss🤭
umm they did many times this admin is biased and didnt show
@@Golden_kook if you wanna hate bp go hate on BTS fanpage🤷🏻♀️
@@Golden_kook thet messed up but not on an encore
@@Golden_kookno. u dont know the meaning of being “biased”. admin never said that THEYRE THE BEST AND THEY HAVE NO BAD ENCORES (unlike the one u replied to). i mean, its just examples of bad and great vocals TOTALLY not comparing groups or their whole career. also, im glad you have watched bp’s encores, as a non-blink, u must be so obsessed😩stream your own fav, watch your own fav
Yeah! Blackpink will always be THAT Group! Icons!!!
i will be honest ur points were valid but u just recklessly compared enha with vocally based it feels like ur purposely downgrading them and during drunk dazed except heesueng i think all of them were teens and going through puberty u should use recent encore stages
I could pull up like 20 encores of groups where they were all teens through puberty and they didn’t miss a note ☠️
@@dibidibidis3367yeah but its not thats point of the vid?
Yeonjunieee is sosososososo tired... he was sick at that time and im not covering. Check out other performances.
and they perfomed before and also cried
@@Juhiprashansa i know, the clip after literally says “nvm it was js a bad vocal day” please watch the full video before commenting 😭
smh encores are for fun💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 there is no such thing as good or bad encore
There is a good encore is where they sound good and have good vocals bad encores are the opposite. Stayc and Nmixx for example show that you can have fun while also sounding good.
@@w0nyst0e nono im talking about why there are videos like this talking about encores😭😭 usually idols do encores to celebrate their win with fans, not to showcase their singing
@@cutu1564 cause rn it’s the only time we get to hear most idols sings live since they usually lip sync so :((
There is
@@cutu1564 actually vocally competent idols should be able to do both
5:20 I still love twice tho they my girls 😭😭😭
tbh i don't think any girl group can sing twice's songs lol. maybe red velvet, but they might struggle too. they are THAT high. so impressive tbh. same goes to enhypen 'cause enhypen and twice are my ults. their songs are more high-pitched but recently, it's in their vocal ranges
@@kteriri Fr JYP goes to far when it comes to pitching twice songs they can barely even sing it 😭😭😭
They can sing it’s just that jyp doesn’t give them songs in their vocal tone especially when it comes to momo
The way they mention feel the pop by zb1 is a crime. C'mon bro they ate every encore they got..💀
You mean ate cracked cds
nah cuz that was their 1 bad encore 😭 same with txt and enha
ppl getting pissed in the comments like 😅
@@hanzawasgf they hate to see someone that doesn’t sugarcoat their opinions to protect random people they don’t even know irl 😋
You could have just said that you can't bear TXT
@@SunsamstansTXT ??? i literally complimented taehyun AND showed a good clip of them singing. it’s not my fault y’all sensitive ass fans can’t tolerate any sorta criticism or joke towards ur little boos. these are grown men, by the way. y’all don’t even know what these guys are like irl 😭
@@karinluvsinaBut you didn’t even try to get the name of their most recent song?😭 I appreciate that you’re bringing these problems up and aren’t trying to make it seem like it’s fine when it clearly isn’t, but you could’ve done more.
I wonder why it bothers you. Go get a life, bb 😚
@@cosmowhiskey1675 Because I stan them right...and I don't need your opinion i guess...did I ask for it?? No
@@nezzun0494 Exactly my point
i dare to say, Momo sound strained on the more&more encore but yall are reaching, that's exactly how she sound on the mv
of course, it's not a good vocal "showcase" either, but jyp used to give her lines that require a higher voice when her tone of voice is clearly lower, way lower
now days she sings on her range and it's way better
(and there's nothing wrong with fancy one, gtfo)
@@anclarax_1926 how do u not hear what’s wrong they’re struggling for their life y’all would do anything but admit ur idols did bad it’s crazy 😭
Bad encore??
Doesn't exist with aespa 🔥
x1 mentioned
@@ninaniy their disbandment was my villain orgin story
@@karinluvsina same.
@@karinluvsinaREALL