@@TegridyMadeGames Callum is a MMO player, and they tend to stick to one game or whatever is the flavor of the month. A lot of people outside the mmo crowd have a large library of games. And who cares if text is uncessored, even the ESRB doesn't rate games outside of...
@@TegridyMadeGames The actual game, and not any online social interactions. If a game ever censors something it's in the interest of the devolopers or higher ups, and what they believe is censorable. Not the players.
@@TegridyMadeGames Like I said with minecraft. Unless your on a public server that modifies the base game. You can swear and talk shit like a sailor as much as you want. Even if the game is rated Everyone 10+
Ah yes… Kira uploading a video about Chronicles of Elyria and now Callum talking about dreamworld… My favorite trainwrecks to watch on a rainy afternoon.
@@Nessaden Earth 2, Elyria and DreamWorld are the holy trinity of scams. If they joined together, they could form a pyramid scheme on a scale the world has never seen 🤣
On the plus side - it has a swim mechanic and New World doesn't. I can't believe we live in a world where Dreamworld has something better than New World.
There are 2 things I click without hesitation. 1. Dream-world debacle progress by Callum 2. Keeping up with the Caspians from Kira. It's my form of reality TV 🤣. Keep it up
My favourite thing about custom signs in any MMO is that the world turns into a massive advertising hub for Chinese players to sell you their services.
I just noticed - why is their project still called Elysium with the default UE4 icon? It should probably be the least of their worries, but changing the 'Project Displayed Title' and adding an icon could definitely be one of those fast, simplistic but fancy changes they look for to add to their changelist.
@@S3frog I think that's when they need to *completely* rename the project. Internal project name, codebase, C++ script references folders etc. I get that. There's a pretty long guide how to do it if you search for the key terms. But changing the display name for their players only (they can keep Elysium internally) hopefully shouldn't be this difficult.
Interestingly, quite a few demos I grabbed from Steam recently have the default UE icon. I'd guess it's because designing good icon is important, and swapping it is a tiny issue? Of course they could have also forgotten, but we'll never know for sure.
This game looks like those shitty ads that taunt you with "only 1% of people can beat lvl 3!" Like, do you think they will ever give up trying to scam people?
Honestly, why wouldn't they continue? We're talking about a dozen or so minutes a week for the appearance of doing something, while there's still plenty of people cheering them on. What kind of narcissist could give that up? It's not going to end until one of them turns on the other :D
Paused the video 15 seconds in. Calling it that they didn't sanitize inputs. edit: Oh they just-... didn't add a filter? That's the worst of it? Here I thought you'd be telling me you could drop code directly into the sign and it'd parse and run it server-side or something terrible like that. But we're just meant to be facepalming about them allowing signs to swear a cuss? Nah, don't feel like that's particularly egregious an error yet. That said I noticed the button said it uploads to discord. Hopefully they learned from the last discord integration exploits, right?
@@oliver_twistor I mean, I always *hope* they're going to get better at this and just make a functional game for their backers, but I fully expected there'd just be "Make me admin" signs lying around
@@PatchyDragon Me too. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. As a software developer myself, I would never wish security flaws anywhere, because it ultimately hurts the users. I feel bad for the people who fell for the lies.
0:23: OH PLEASE. It hurts my autistic brain so much if you let those symbols down there just be orange to try to get you to click on them, but you dont click on them. I'm not joking: it makes it hard to watch these videos, man.
This is literally someone learning Unreal in about 2 hours a week for the past 6 months. Some of this stuff that is glaringly bad is something you could fix in 2 minutes if you knew how to do it, which means they don't know how to do it. This isn't even someone with no experience in Unreal trying to make a game as a full time job. The pace they are going, and the things they still do not know how to do means they aren't even devoting any time to learning Unreal, literally a couple hours a week.
This is what's so confusing to me. Given this time they have been working on the game, and even given the time since release, they would have been able to go from absolute novice and take one of the countless online courses on game development, Unreal development etc. that exist nowadays, and be able to do a better job than this. Garrison did supposedly work as an intern for three tech giants, as well. Cal's game jam showed that even those without prior experience in either game development or programming could make games in two weeks of spare time, and without any funding.
@@oliver_twistor Yeah, that is why it is totally a scam, and not just incompetent developers. If you were a legit incompetent developer who was actually trying to make the game and just got in over your head, in all this time you would have easily progressed well past this. Not only are they incompetent, but they aren't even trying to learn or putting any time into the project. This is someone trying to avoid legal action by working a couple hours a week doing the bare minimum and easiest things to ' add ' stuff to the game each week.
Say what you will about dreamworld, most game designers have to pay a school to learn how to make their 1st game. Dreamworld figured out how to get people to pay them for their 1st game. Amazing.
Keep the good work up Callum. I saw that you and Josh Strife started a podcast. Can't wait to hear that. Always looking forward to seeing your videos. Did not realise I was not subscribed until just now
0:23: OH PLEASE. It hurts my autistic brain so much if you let those symbols down there just be orange to try to get you to click on them, but you dont click on them. I'm not joking: it makes it hard to watch these videos, man.
I didn't back this game, but it have proven a surprising source of entertainment in a mobid way ^_^ Didn't expect any games to effectively go tell fallout76 to "hold my beer"
Hello and may I introduce you to our Lord and Savior of decade plus money grab games, his Holiness Christ Robbers and his masterpiece: Squadron 42/Star Citizen.
@@EarthboundX Well fallout 76, is now technically under Microsoft and is considered a detriment to the fallout brand, so of course work would be put in, that said, there is still a lot of core issues like players can permanently brick your character by transferring an item to you, and smaller stuff like the hacking in the Battle royal modes but much less is inherently broken now without outside interference.
@@N4CR Honestly if it wasn't for the sorry to say "idiots" who keeps going by the sunk cost fallacy the game would have failed, I believe the original goal was 2mil, and they have already used and spent more than 200mil ( probably much more ) which says something about their ability to manage the project, it have been redone in multiple engines since they butted heads with crytek, it is finally shaping up to become something of a game, but if it wasn't for the constant cash injections it is safe to say that the project would and should have failed. I have friends who both love and hate it, I am waiting with a final verdict to the game is officially out.. if that ever happens. but by all means if it wasn't for the constant cash injections the project would have crashed and burned due to poor resource management
@@EarthboundX It's not bad, not amazing but not as bad as it was when it started. At least Fallout 76 can say it improved. Not much that Dream World can brag about.
You dont even need that, you literally pose the character up and sat down, give it some frames, and... it just does it by itself. Can be rough, but they didn't even bother trying
Oh man that reminds me I've got a couple copies of that somewhere in my game collection that I've never ever opened. This is giving me incentive to break out my old consoles and give it a try
Can't wait to hear about all the exploits players find now that you can input text in the game thats unfiltered. Time to do some scripting. Have fun guys!
Not to mention how many Victorian gentlemen would be horribly confused with all those perfectly normal words being replaced with asterisks, right? :D Censoring is a stupid thing anyway. The only reasonable argument you could make is that people who write messages that consist 30% of swear words probably don't have anything interesting to say anyway... but we don't remove what they wrote, just black out the "offensive" words, so... what's the point? If you want to take a stand on something you find offensive, do that. Filters have absolutely no positive impact on the writers, nor the readers. They're just a really simple thing to implement that gets particularly stupid people off your backs. Because we all know, that when you write something like "We should kill all the gay people", the offensive part is the "gay" word, right? Everything is peachy when you just change it into "We should kill all the g*y people", right? :D Isn't the point of MMOs as a genre kind of to interact with... other people? Stopping all kinds of meaningful impact players have on the world just to stop a bunch of 12 year-olds and 50 year-old idiots living in basements (or being insurance brokers) sounds quite a bit like throwing out the baby with the bath water. If you can't stand the risk of having people ruin others' enjoyment (fair enough), let them build communities of their own, with their own policing :)
@@DisastrousIntentionally I... don't think so. Especially in the USA, this definitely predates the internet, much less twitter snowflakes. There's just something really weird about American culture and euphemisms/swear-words/hiding-what-people-say-do-or-think. Not that it's _uniquely_ American, of course, and it definitely spreads, and it is getting worse, and the people involved are getting more and more self-righteous.
It's not, but if you put a word that implies violence or insult + the word "gay" it becomes an insult to the GAY group. That's why filters are needed, no company wants to be sued in the millions because of words others have written, better filter than risk being targeted.
For the water/breath bar, they should make it invisible until youre in water, and its depleting, but after youre on land and its full, it goes away. Too much visual stimuli on the screen. Edit: maybe they could make it like Ark survival evolved, like a little h20 icon
I don't agree that text filtering is the right solution because what happens is that people just find other ways to be offensive. I think there needs to be two things. A client setting that can hide user signs and a way for users to report offensive signs and enforce the old "be nice or you get thrown out".
While that's true, you still want at least a basic filter to remove the worst slurs. You'll have to sanitize the inputs anyway, might as well remove some stuff that will get you into hot water if you don't (like the n-word).
@@rolfs2165 n word is fun censor n word what about n word with 1 g less? Oh nice, you censored the German word "weniger" ("less than") So you gotta force it only applies to it being space-separated (which I guess you want to do anyway, since else you'd filter sa-turd-day). But then space separated makes it super trivial fro anyone to circumvent. It's a pain D:
Yeah, that is why I wish some of these youtubers had some background in Unreal and Unity. I mean they are legitimately calling out bad stuff in the game, but it is so much worse when you know Unreal a bit and know how easy it is to fix some of these things.... or in the case of the sitting animation, they broke it to where it is worse than the defaults that Unreal came with. Like moving backwards but keeping the forward animation.
Oh, oh dear Cant wait to see the slurs! Also I mean, gay isnt offensive. But once again it _is_ online and a lot of people have the maturity of a 9 year old...
the word "Sieg Heil" does not mean anything bad but literally "hail victory" was used as a salutation implying respect or reverence even before Hitler, so certain things are not about the meaning but how they are used in context.
Holy cow! It’s like a project someone is working on for a high school assignment. If that was the case good on them...but it is not. This doesn’t even seem like a alpha game, more like an outline. And I feel like that’s putting it nicely...
Now I want to know is there a character limit and if you can kill the game the same way some people where doing in minecraft by filling a book with so much text and data it reached critical mass.
@@calvindang7291 But does that work? Even if so, seen people get creative and minecraft is a good example of just how much you can cram into a small text limit.
0:23: OH PLEASE. It hurts my autistic brain so much if you let those symbols down there just be orange to try to get you to click on them, but you dont click on them. I'm not joking: it makes it hard to watch these videos, man.
So if anyone knows what anarchy servers are in minecraft especially one called 2b2t I've come to realize the longer this "MMO" goes on it's exactly that, possibly the first anarchy MMO, no laws, no rules, just do whatever, write your own code, be as offensive as you want, I almost expect now if I checked it to see giant phallus shaped structures or burning crosses or something. I've condemned World of Warcraft between the game and Blizzard themselves of being a unredeemable dumpsterfire but I feel like in Dreamworld I could make an actual dumpsterfire and the devs would go "Huh, that's creative"...This stuff actually confuses me lol
tbh i dont think unfiltered text is a problem, i find that filtered text is a problem i dont like having my speech censored, it should be optional i guess for children, but then at the same time doesnt matter they should learn to ignore words they dont like and parents can quiet easily teach them not to use those words if they dont want them saying them
Hey, so… if the text is unfiltered… anyone wanna bet they’ve gone for maximum laziness and it’s just getting squirted, unsanitised, straight into whatever dB backend they’re using? How long before they get little Bobby Tables’d?
ROFLMAO......Laziness? This is worse than laziness. Blending amins is just a value you have to put in montages....and if you are doing this through animation blueprints then you can specify animation blend rate there.....god i dont know why and how these people got funded!
I actually completely agree with you, i always feel bad for youtube premium when doing integrated ads. They should allow creators to timestamp integrations to be skipped by premium automatically
@@CallumUpton I apologize if this seemed like a personal attack, it's just frustrating. But that would be a fantastic feature, too good for them to actually implement.
Well.. no, text filters are the wrong answer to the problem. What you need is an easy to use system to report abuse and real consequences to people not playing game. If your game already has a very basic text chat you should already have that. You are fùĉked otherwise. With filters people will just come up with ways to circumvent your filtering. Using accents, sepelling things backwards, spelling it wrong on purpase, using interpunctation inbetween letters. Stuff like that. You need to make it very clear and known that such abuse has consequences and you need an easy way to report such things, check those reports and yes, also punish people making false reports.
I'm finally getting the chance to go through all of these videos. And it just makes me want to try my hand at making a base level game and have it actually function as intended. My only "design" experience is with RPG Maker circa 2005 (a quest based on my hometown/friend group) that after about 120hrs I lost when my HD borked and never went back😂.
at this point i feel like they doin' this cuz community got them by the b4lls and they just trying to find a way to get out of the predicament they dug themselves into while showing that they doin' something
I’m thinking. People might actually offer to help them for free out of the goodness of their heart. 😅 Benny Hill....? Oh dear.... Thanks for the update Callum! Stay safe. ❤️
I remember APB, a cops and robbers MMO, that allowed players to buy their own cars and decorate them freely with near limitless tools… I saw SO many Nazi symbols, NSFW, etc… it was basically just “racism: the game” for a while… Can’t think of anything going wrong here…
I once filmed myself in first person chasing my friend as he ran and jumped around like a jackass and we strapped a speaker to the camera mic that played the Benny Hill music. We were 13 years old...
the fact that they add all these stupid emoji's to their patch notes in discord is really stupid and unprofessional but given the entire shitshow history of what I cant call anything but a big scam I am not surprised that they continue to do it.
These videos would be way stronger if you toned down the hyperbole. The Dreamworld guys are not going to do something epically stupid and hilarious every week, and it feels a little forced when you try to take something that is sort of dumb, or even pretty dumb, and blow it up into "the dumbest thing ever." Your videos would still be interesting with less of that, they don't need to always be a big reveal of some epic programming blunder on their part. Another way to get more mileage out of these patch notes would be if you went back to showing us how they should have programmed things differently, in order to do it properly. That was very interesting for a non game dev to see. I really appreciate that you're taking the time to make these videos, and hold these guys to account. These are just some small comments I had, which I hope are constructive, and which you can feel free to ignore if you don't agree.
That was also the first thing I thought about 😂 would be funny if someone drops all the databases of their system exposes the possibility of slq injection
I'm still annoyed by the player character's fingers. It seems like the middle finger have been broken and didn't heal properly so it's permanently crooked.
So weirdly Boundless has both customisable signs and nameable plot areas. I don't know about the signs and I never tried to name my plot anything weird, but I've never seen anything terrible. I am not sure what Boundless did to combat it, or if it's just that the community is so small they actually prefer to play nice.
At least you can get comedic value out of dreamworld and they're kinda trying ish even if they'll never make the mmo they claim they are, Elyria just unapologetically shits in their backers mouths and tells them to like it
Chronicles is a dumpster fire, but theyre trying to put it out! They're trying?? Elyria doesnt even exist. And it was almost a scam if not for the lawsuit suddenly scaring them back
Just a headsup mate, I'm really put off as a viewer when 40% of a video is an ad, and the content itself is just a short read up, it might just dreamworld in itself becoming uninteresting aswell tho
@@YouCantParkThereMate Alright, I wasn't really trying to be accurate, but more telling that it's a lot, 2 minutes out of 8 is a lot no matter how you show it, it's a 1/4 piece.. and....... isn't 4 minutes out of 8, 50%? :P and I did skip it, doesn't mean I don't have an opinion about it tho, I'm not a robot :) But good sir have no need for a squire, your armour already has quite the shine!
Why do you NEED to filter words? If it's a game for children, ok, make a filter for them (and an option to turn it off), but otherwise... e.g. GTA V is filtering jeweils, the German word for for-each, to ***eils... not a good experience
Yakety Sax, the Benny Hill song, is not under public domain. I'm not saying this is a *huge* loss for the rights owners, but I'm sorry to say that I'm continually surprised by the apparently "extra-legal" actions taken by these guys.
Did the developers never attend high school or at least interacted with someone who was a teenager in the last 30 years? Anytime you allow people to input text, they will inevitably type something offensive.
To be honest, if I would be tasked with making sign, I would also propably forget to add filter (maybe cause I am not used to mnorpgs) I am not saying they were right, I just want to say I would propably screw this too
It shows that they're not really developers. The first thing any developer learns (regardless of being game dev, web dev or software dev) is always treat user input as harmful, thus you must alway sanitise it. Never assume for example that if the user is prompted to enter their age, the user will only enter a number between 0 and let's say 120. Always assume the user will enter text, negative numbers, scripts, SQL statements that will wipe your whole database, and other more or less disastrous things. If something is doable, someone will eventually do it. The trick is to limit the user as much as possible, whenever and wherever possible.
@@oliver_twistor yeah. I know that. Also I dont want to sound like I am defenfing them. I would propably forget to put that filter in. I primarily play games that have public or semipublic servers so they make their own rules. But I can totally see this being thing in MNORPGs
@@mmgmismas I didn't get the impression that you were defending them. I only wanted to explain why it's yet another sign that they aren't developers (of any kind), because even if they were software devs (like Garrison claims to be) and this is their first attempt at making a game, they shouldn't have made this glaring error (among other glaring errors even moderately experienced software developers wouldn't make). However, it's easy to forget such details when their game has like 1 million other issues.
I just don't understand how anyone, developer or otherwise, could look at this and not immediately ascertain that the game is trash. The graphics are trash, the lighting is trash, the animations are trash, it's all just trash.
When I was in my early teens, me and some friends started our own Ultima online shard. When spent 99% of our time adding every item we could find. It was a mess and reminds me exactly of this game.
When a straight person gets called gay they more often than not find it offensive therefore in most mmo games the word gets censored the same way as any swear word would. It was just one of the examples he used to show their incompetence don't dwell too much on it.
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@@TegridyMadeGames Has Callum played minecraft? Signs, books, named animals, and named items can have uncensored text.
@@TegridyMadeGames Callum is a MMO player, and they tend to stick to one game or whatever is the flavor of the month. A lot of people outside the mmo crowd have a large library of games. And who cares if text is uncessored, even the ESRB doesn't rate games outside of...
@@TegridyMadeGames The actual game, and not any online social interactions. If a game ever censors something it's in the interest of the devolopers or higher ups, and what they believe is censorable. Not the players.
@@TegridyMadeGames Like I said with minecraft. Unless your on a public server that modifies the base game. You can swear and talk shit like a sailor as much as you want. Even if the game is rated Everyone 10+
@@TegridyMadeGames Idk, Think of it as making fun of the starwars prequals or the sequals. It's just shit that keeps on coming.
Ah yes… Kira uploading a video about Chronicles of Elyria and now Callum talking about dreamworld… My favorite trainwrecks to watch on a rainy afternoon.
DUDE SAME!! XD - told kira i got snacks and beer at 10am just to watch that Elyria dumpster fire
All we need to complete the trifecta is a Kira upload on Earth2.
@@Nessaden Earth 2, Elyria and DreamWorld are the holy trinity of scams. If they joined together, they could form a pyramid scheme on a scale the world has never seen 🤣
Same here 🤣🤣🤣
@@ThatMocapGuy Cant lie, I'm always snacking on Kiras videos
On the plus side - it has a swim mechanic and New World doesn't. I can't believe we live in a world where Dreamworld has something better than New World.
Dreamworlds building system better then new worlds end game lmao
I can't believe we live in a world where people thought a video game from amazon is going to last more than 2-3 months
I'm sure someone will figure out a way to run scripts using the unfiltered signage function. Lovely server-side scripts.
I'm surprised it didn't happen almost instantly.
But I guess they don't really have that big a player base
The sad thing is, out of the box input parameterizations exist to prevent code execution.
Do you really think anyone who knows anything about programming is playing this game for real?
@@PeterSedesse They were not talking about playing it, but breaking it, which is some people's thing
Callum is putting more effort into complaining about the game than the devs to develop it
There are 2 things I click without hesitation.
1. Dream-world debacle progress by Callum
2. Keeping up with the Caspians from Kira.
It's my form of reality TV 🤣. Keep it up
Keeping Up with the Caspians and DreamWorld Debacle are two of my favorite reality TV shows. Those two and the Earth2 Dilemma
Now waiting for a topic related video from Josh Strife Hayes and I could call it a perfect week.
And earth 2 by both
My favourite thing about custom signs in any MMO is that the world turns into a massive advertising hub for Chinese players to sell you their services.
I just noticed - why is their project still called Elysium with the default UE4 icon?
It should probably be the least of their worries, but changing the 'Project Displayed Title' and adding an icon could definitely be one of those fast, simplistic but fancy changes they look for to add to their changelist.
Callum explained in a video about Nightmare World that it's surprisingly difficult to change the project name. Beats me why though.
@@S3frog I think that's when they need to *completely* rename the project. Internal project name, codebase, C++ script references folders etc. I get that. There's a pretty long guide how to do it if you search for the key terms.
But changing the display name for their players only (they can keep Elysium internally) hopefully shouldn't be this difficult.
Interestingly, quite a few demos I grabbed from Steam recently have the default UE icon. I'd guess it's because designing good icon is important, and swapping it is a tiny issue? Of course they could have also forgotten, but we'll never know for sure.
@@RalIix It's not something worrying. Satisfactory is called FactoryGame in the folder. Ark is called ShooterGame.
@@Wormswoods I mean, even if they just take that somewhat crappy DW logo they already have, it'd be an improvement over the standard UE4 icon.
This game looks like those shitty ads that taunt you with "only 1% of people can beat lvl 3!"
Like, do you think they will ever give up trying to scam people?
Do you think that maybe they're obligated to keep going because otherwise people will sue?
Honestly, why wouldn't they continue? We're talking about a dozen or so minutes a week for the appearance of doing something, while there's still plenty of people cheering them on. What kind of narcissist could give that up? It's not going to end until one of them turns on the other :D
Paused the video 15 seconds in. Calling it that they didn't sanitize inputs.
edit: Oh they just-... didn't add a filter? That's the worst of it? Here I thought you'd be telling me you could drop code directly into the sign and it'd parse and run it server-side or something terrible like that. But we're just meant to be facepalming about them allowing signs to swear a cuss? Nah, don't feel like that's particularly egregious an error yet.
That said I noticed the button said it uploads to discord. Hopefully they learned from the last discord integration exploits, right?
I agree. A bit disappointed by that. I was hoping for some kind of injection vulnerability too.
@@oliver_twistor I mean, I always *hope* they're going to get better at this and just make a functional game for their backers, but I fully expected there'd just be "Make me admin" signs lying around
@@PatchyDragon Me too. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. As a software developer myself, I would never wish security flaws anywhere, because it ultimately hurts the users. I feel bad for the people who fell for the lies.
0:23: OH PLEASE. It hurts my autistic brain so much if you let those symbols down there just be orange to try to get you to click on them, but you dont click on them. I'm not joking: it makes it hard to watch these videos, man.
This is literally someone learning Unreal in about 2 hours a week for the past 6 months. Some of this stuff that is glaringly bad is something you could fix in 2 minutes if you knew how to do it, which means they don't know how to do it. This isn't even someone with no experience in Unreal trying to make a game as a full time job. The pace they are going, and the things they still do not know how to do means they aren't even devoting any time to learning Unreal, literally a couple hours a week.
This is what's so confusing to me. Given this time they have been working on the game, and even given the time since release, they would have been able to go from absolute novice and take one of the countless online courses on game development, Unreal development etc. that exist nowadays, and be able to do a better job than this. Garrison did supposedly work as an intern for three tech giants, as well. Cal's game jam showed that even those without prior experience in either game development or programming could make games in two weeks of spare time, and without any funding.
@@oliver_twistor Yeah, that is why it is totally a scam, and not just incompetent developers. If you were a legit incompetent developer who was actually trying to make the game and just got in over your head, in all this time you would have easily progressed well past this. Not only are they incompetent, but they aren't even trying to learn or putting any time into the project. This is someone trying to avoid legal action by working a couple hours a week doing the bare minimum and easiest things to ' add ' stuff to the game each week.
Say what you will about dreamworld, most game designers have to pay a school to learn how to make their 1st game.
Dreamworld figured out how to get people to pay them for their 1st game. Amazing.
Keep the good work up Callum. I saw that you and Josh Strife started a podcast. Can't wait to hear that. Always looking forward to seeing your videos. Did not realise I was not subscribed until just now
0:23: OH PLEASE. It hurts my autistic brain so much if you let those symbols down there just be orange to try to get you to click on them, but you dont click on them. I'm not joking: it makes it hard to watch these videos, man.
I love how the text updates are completely uncensored, it would end exactly how we all expect it to.
I didn't back this game, but it have proven a surprising source of entertainment in a mobid way ^_^
Didn't expect any games to effectively go tell fallout76 to "hold my beer"
Hello and may I introduce you to our Lord and Savior of decade plus money grab games, his Holiness Christ Robbers and his masterpiece: Squadron 42/Star Citizen.
Been hearing much better things about Fallout 76 lately. But that launch it had, wow that was bad.
@@EarthboundX Well fallout 76, is now technically under Microsoft and is considered a detriment to the fallout brand, so of course work would be put in, that said, there is still a lot of core issues like players can permanently brick your character by transferring an item to you, and smaller stuff like the hacking in the Battle royal modes but much less is inherently broken now without outside interference.
@@N4CR Honestly if it wasn't for the sorry to say "idiots" who keeps going by the sunk cost fallacy the game would have failed, I believe the original goal was 2mil, and they have already used and spent more than 200mil ( probably much more ) which says something about their ability to manage the project, it have been redone in multiple engines since they butted heads with crytek, it is finally shaping up to become something of a game, but if it wasn't for the constant cash injections it is safe to say that the project would and should have failed.
I have friends who both love and hate it, I am waiting with a final verdict to the game is officially out.. if that ever happens.
but by all means if it wasn't for the constant cash injections the project would have crashed and burned due to poor resource management
@@EarthboundX It's not bad, not amazing but not as bad as it was when it started. At least Fallout 76 can say it improved. Not much that Dream World can brag about.
"In-between the animation?! Pfft...who's got money for an in-betweener??" LOL
You dont even need that, you literally pose the character up and sat down, give it some frames, and... it just does it by itself. Can be rough, but they didn't even bother trying
Let's pray somehow 4chan doesn't realize you can write anything you want in those signs
This whole things looks like me slapping something together in rpg maker. The diff is obvious. This isn't pixelated.
Oh man that reminds me I've got a couple copies of that somewhere in my game collection that I've never ever opened. This is giving me incentive to break out my old consoles and give it a try
This is the best shit show of a game ever tbh .
Can't wait to hear about all the exploits players find now that you can input text in the game thats unfiltered. Time to do some scripting. Have fun guys!
I really don't understand why my sexuality is considered a slur or censor-worthy in MMOs.
Not to mention how many Victorian gentlemen would be horribly confused with all those perfectly normal words being replaced with asterisks, right? :D
Censoring is a stupid thing anyway. The only reasonable argument you could make is that people who write messages that consist 30% of swear words probably don't have anything interesting to say anyway... but we don't remove what they wrote, just black out the "offensive" words, so... what's the point? If you want to take a stand on something you find offensive, do that. Filters have absolutely no positive impact on the writers, nor the readers. They're just a really simple thing to implement that gets particularly stupid people off your backs.
Because we all know, that when you write something like "We should kill all the gay people", the offensive part is the "gay" word, right? Everything is peachy when you just change it into "We should kill all the g*y people", right? :D
Isn't the point of MMOs as a genre kind of to interact with... other people? Stopping all kinds of meaningful impact players have on the world just to stop a bunch of 12 year-olds and 50 year-old idiots living in basements (or being insurance brokers) sounds quite a bit like throwing out the baby with the bath water. If you can't stand the risk of having people ruin others' enjoyment (fair enough), let them build communities of their own, with their own policing :)
@@DisastrousIntentionally I... don't think so. Especially in the USA, this definitely predates the internet, much less twitter snowflakes. There's just something really weird about American culture and euphemisms/swear-words/hiding-what-people-say-do-or-think. Not that it's _uniquely_ American, of course, and it definitely spreads, and it is getting worse, and the people involved are getting more and more self-righteous.
It's not, but if you put a word that implies violence or insult + the word "gay" it becomes an insult to the GAY group. That's why filters are needed, no company wants to be sued in the millions because of words others have written, better filter than risk being targeted.
For the water/breath bar, they should make it invisible until youre in water, and its depleting, but after youre on land and its full, it goes away. Too much visual stimuli on the screen.
Edit: maybe they could make it like Ark survival evolved, like a little h20 icon
That's what happens in the video, though? It seems to vanish once it fills.
I don't agree that text filtering is the right solution because what happens is that people just find other ways to be offensive. I think there needs to be two things. A client setting that can hide user signs and a way for users to report offensive signs and enforce the old "be nice or you get thrown out".
Ehh, filter's will just be circumvented by people anyway. If anything you'd want a GM
While that's true, you still want at least a basic filter to remove the worst slurs. You'll have to sanitize the inputs anyway, might as well remove some stuff that will get you into hot water if you don't (like the n-word).
@@rolfs2165 n word is fun
censor n word
what about n word with 1 g less?
Oh nice, you censored the German word "weniger" ("less than")
So you gotta force it only applies to it being space-separated (which I guess you want to do anyway, since else you'd filter sa-turd-day).
But then space separated makes it super trivial fro anyone to circumvent. It's a pain D:
I read the title and I had to click and watch because I'm like "NO!! HOW DO YOU MESS UP SIGNS!"
The fact they are still using unreal basic mannequin yet didnt use the blend tree it literally starts with for animations is ridiculous.
Yeah, that is why I wish some of these youtubers had some background in Unreal and Unity. I mean they are legitimately calling out bad stuff in the game, but it is so much worse when you know Unreal a bit and know how easy it is to fix some of these things.... or in the case of the sitting animation, they broke it to where it is worse than the defaults that Unreal came with. Like moving backwards but keeping the forward animation.
Oh, oh dear
Cant wait to see the slurs!
Also I mean, gay isnt offensive. But once again it _is_ online and a lot of people have the maturity of a 9 year old...
Yeah i know it isnt offesnive, i was simply testing what was and wasnt being filtered. It turns out absolutely nothing is
the word "Sieg Heil" does not mean anything bad but literally "hail victory" was used as a salutation implying respect or reverence even before Hitler, so certain things are not about the meaning but how they are used in context.
@@The_Ancient_Guardian Sadly words do not exist in a vacuum and history and events, connotations impact words and how we perceive them. So
At least they were able to add swimming to the game. Something AGS couldn't even do! lol
NOOOO YOU CANT JUST WRITE WHATEVER YOU WANT! NOT THE FEELERINOS!
Holy cow! It’s like a project someone is working on for a high school assignment. If that was the case good on them...but it is not. This doesn’t even seem like a alpha game, more like an outline. And I feel like that’s putting it nicely...
I considered making a similar comment before, but I feel like it's unnecessarily harsh on high school assignments.
Now I want to know is there a character limit and if you can kill the game the same way some people where doing in minecraft by filling a book with so much text and data it reached critical mass.
I'm actually wondering if you could script in it if there's no limit
@@ryzzix9301 Knowing how badly Dreamworld does it's stuff I would not be surprised if you could put code in a sign and have it be ran.
sign on screen literally showed "50/50" when they were typing those bad words...
@@calvindang7291 But does that work? Even if so, seen people get creative and minecraft is a good example of just how much you can cram into a small text limit.
every time I see this, I think to myself: „imagine that ppl payed for this, uff..."
0:23: OH PLEASE. It hurts my autistic brain so much if you let those symbols down there just be orange to try to get you to click on them, but you dont click on them. I'm not joking: it makes it hard to watch these videos, man.
So if anyone knows what anarchy servers are in minecraft especially one called 2b2t I've come to realize the longer this "MMO" goes on it's exactly that, possibly the first anarchy MMO, no laws, no rules, just do whatever, write your own code, be as offensive as you want, I almost expect now if I checked it to see giant phallus shaped structures or burning crosses or something. I've condemned World of Warcraft between the game and Blizzard themselves of being a unredeemable dumpsterfire but I feel like in Dreamworld I could make an actual dumpsterfire and the devs would go "Huh, that's creative"...This stuff actually confuses me lol
I thought exactly the same. It's an anarchy mmo lmao
I remember how disgusting Ark: Survival Evolved official servers used to be, since you can drop signs and billboards that aren't filtered
tbh i dont think unfiltered text is a problem, i find that filtered text is a problem i dont like having my speech censored, it should be optional i guess for children, but then at the same time doesnt matter they should learn to ignore words they dont like and parents can quiet easily teach them not to use those words if they dont want them saying them
I don't think it is a problem, but I also don't see anything wrong with filtered text. If it censors dumb, unnecessary shit so be it.
Hey, so… if the text is unfiltered… anyone wanna bet they’ve gone for maximum laziness and it’s just getting squirted, unsanitised, straight into whatever dB backend they’re using?
How long before they get little Bobby Tables’d?
They're saved by their small playerbase. If this were a popular game, someone would have already tried the ol' Bobby Tables by now.
Having said this here, for it to actually happen in New World is kinda eerie.
I can't believe this train wreck is still going on. Just blows my mind.
Me
ROFLMAO......Laziness? This is worse than laziness. Blending amins is just a value you have to put in montages....and if you are doing this through animation blueprints then you can specify animation blend rate there.....god i dont know why and how these people got funded!
It's just incredible how they just...don't seem to think anything through before implementing it.
.-.
I admire their consistency... at being terrible.
@@APsychicMonkey Omg. XD
TH-cam needs to do something about sponsors in ads, if I'm paying for ad free I don't want to be seeing it in videos period.
I actually completely agree with you, i always feel bad for youtube premium when doing integrated ads. They should allow creators to timestamp integrations to be skipped by premium automatically
@@CallumUpton I apologize if this seemed like a personal attack, it's just frustrating. But that would be a fantastic feature, too good for them to actually implement.
If only there were some kind of 'NightmareWorld' to counter 'DreamWorld'. Sigh...
Luckily there is lol
If only kitten if only
That pink mantis plush is more cute than what should be legally allowed.
that 46 sec outro just to hit that 8 min mark 👌
Has anybody tried escape characters, weird unicode, extremely long texts, unprintable characters and the likes yet on the new signs?
Wait till someone injects code with the text feature
I'd be surprised if they for once would not push out another disaster.
Well.. no, text filters are the wrong answer to the problem. What you need is an easy to use system to report abuse and real consequences to people not playing game. If your game already has a very basic text chat you should already have that. You are fùĉked otherwise. With filters people will just come up with ways to circumvent your filtering. Using accents, sepelling things backwards, spelling it wrong on purpase, using interpunctation inbetween letters. Stuff like that. You need to make it very clear and known that such abuse has consequences and you need an easy way to report such things, check those reports and yes, also punish people making false reports.
Nah.
Or just curb the bulk of it by using a text filter. Some people will circumvent it, but it will be a lot less than if they could just type it out.
I'm finally getting the chance to go through all of these videos. And it just makes me want to try my hand at making a base level game and have it actually function as intended.
My only "design" experience is with RPG Maker circa 2005 (a quest based on my hometown/friend group) that after about 120hrs I lost when my HD borked and never went back😂.
at this point i feel like they doin' this cuz community got them by the b4lls and they just trying to find a way to get out of the predicament they dug themselves into while showing that they doin' something
I’m thinking. People might actually offer to help them for free out of the goodness of their heart. 😅 Benny Hill....? Oh dear.... Thanks for the update Callum! Stay safe. ❤️
I remember APB, a cops and robbers MMO, that allowed players to buy their own cars and decorate them freely with near limitless tools… I saw SO many Nazi symbols, NSFW, etc… it was basically just “racism: the game” for a while…
Can’t think of anything going wrong here…
I don't see the problem with that or with the chat having no filter.
I once filmed myself in first person chasing my friend as he ran and jumped around like a jackass and we strapped a speaker to the camera mic that played the Benny Hill music. We were 13 years old...
I don't see any issue with not censoring chat. Most games only censor the nword if they do it all.
"Bitch fuck shit gay something else offensive :)" He is speaking the language of the gods
I wonder if they sanitize the input ;)
' DROP DATABASE;
the fact that they add all these stupid emoji's to their patch notes in discord is really stupid and unprofessional but given the entire shitshow history of what I cant call anything but a big scam I am not surprised that they continue to do it.
And they keep using one particular emoji that isn't rendered. Priceless.
I was expecting something worth complaining about, I was wrong. This is clickbait, he's whining because the signs are uncensored.
It is basic shit for a multiplayer game lmao
These videos would be way stronger if you toned down the hyperbole. The Dreamworld guys are not going to do something epically stupid and hilarious every week, and it feels a little forced when you try to take something that is sort of dumb, or even pretty dumb, and blow it up into "the dumbest thing ever." Your videos would still be interesting with less of that, they don't need to always be a big reveal of some epic programming blunder on their part.
Another way to get more mileage out of these patch notes would be if you went back to showing us how they should have programmed things differently, in order to do it properly. That was very interesting for a non game dev to see.
I really appreciate that you're taking the time to make these videos, and hold these guys to account. These are just some small comments I had, which I hope are constructive, and which you can feel free to ignore if you don't agree.
Constructive criticism. We need more people around like you ^.^ x
I wonder if their signposts are vulnerable to an SQL injection attack.
Cool, now you can put all those questions about the game that would get on banned on Discord on signs for everyone to see.
Do you think if someone starts writing SQL into their signs they can inject it into their databases?
That was also the first thing I thought about 😂 would be funny if someone drops all the databases of their system exposes the possibility of slq injection
@@pvsnp8722 Good ol' Bobby Drop Tables
They'd need a database for that. Each sign is a txt file with some json 🤣
@@CallumUpton I mean...it works I guess? I don't know a ton of programming but I thought you'd need a database for other players to be able to see it.
I can't wait for the dumpster fire to be fuelled by lawsuit rage lol
I'm still annoyed by the player character's fingers. It seems like the middle finger have been broken and didn't heal properly so it's permanently crooked.
Why are they even still creating the game at this point. They only have like 4 players and the game is a laughing stock within the gaming community.
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that they make game only on blueprints and just add random features they find on the menu.
Tbh you're doing the marketing for them at this point,since this is just like a patch notes of the month at this point
So weirdly Boundless has both customisable signs and nameable plot areas. I don't know about the signs and I never tried to name my plot anything weird, but I've never seen anything terrible. I am not sure what Boundless did to combat it, or if it's just that the community is so small they actually prefer to play nice.
Those signs, have you tried to input any form of code?
Not saying that you should, only that you could.
There’s no filters on Minecraft signs? Is sign censorship a big thing in gaming?
So, this or Chronicles or Elyria? Which one is worse?
At least you can get comedic value out of dreamworld and they're kinda trying ish even if they'll never make the mmo they claim they are, Elyria just unapologetically shits in their backers mouths and tells them to like it
Elyria 100%
Chronicles is a dumpster fire, but theyre trying to put it out! They're trying??
Elyria doesnt even exist. And it was almost a scam if not for the lawsuit suddenly scaring them back
Does the running FEEL as jarring to control as it LOOKS? Because man, the weird omni treadmill look just makes running seem nauseating
I'm sorry, you were saying something? I could stop focusing on the character model shoulders.
I didn’t know that the word gay was offensive 🤔
It's not. He was testing the chat filter.
Just a headsup mate, I'm really put off as a viewer when 40% of a video is an ad, and the content itself is just a short read up, it might just dreamworld in itself becoming uninteresting aswell tho
4 minutes would have been 40%, this was more like 20%. Quick tip....., tap tap tap tap tap....ad skipped.
@@YouCantParkThereMate Alright, I wasn't really trying to be accurate, but more telling that it's a lot, 2 minutes out of 8 is a lot no matter how you show it, it's a 1/4 piece.. and....... isn't 4 minutes out of 8, 50%? :P
and I did skip it, doesn't mean I don't have an opinion about it tho, I'm not a robot :)
But good sir have no need for a squire, your armour already has quite the shine!
Aw yeah I've been waiting on this for a week now!
this makes me wanna open my own scam mmo. people paid for this. it looks like easy money.
@@fled110 Wow. Do you not understand jokes?
Thats so strange, i follow Star Citizen closely. Its the oppositvof what this is in dedication and passion for their product.
This game looks like something a game developer student would make in 48 hours.
Minecraft:
Looks at sign...
...Hold my beer.
Why do you NEED to filter words? If it's a game for children, ok, make a filter for them (and an option to turn it off), but otherwise...
e.g. GTA V is filtering jeweils, the German word for for-each, to ***eils... not a good experience
At this rate, this game's probably be finished by 2050?
Has anybody tried Bobby Tables on these signs yet?
My first thought was "oh boy the profanity", followed by "how long until somebody manages code injection"
They didn't say how _many_ skeli archers would be roaming 😉
Yakety Sax, the Benny Hill song, is not under public domain. I'm not saying this is a *huge* loss for the rights owners, but I'm sorry to say that I'm continually surprised by the apparently "extra-legal" actions taken by these guys.
Did the developers never attend high school or at least interacted with someone who was a teenager in the last 30 years? Anytime you allow people to input text, they will inevitably type something offensive.
For a minute I expected to see you go Bobby Tables on the signs.
To be honest, if I would be tasked with making sign, I would also propably forget to add filter (maybe cause I am not used to mnorpgs) I am not saying they were right, I just want to say I would propably screw this too
It shows that they're not really developers. The first thing any developer learns (regardless of being game dev, web dev or software dev) is always treat user input as harmful, thus you must alway sanitise it. Never assume for example that if the user is prompted to enter their age, the user will only enter a number between 0 and let's say 120. Always assume the user will enter text, negative numbers, scripts, SQL statements that will wipe your whole database, and other more or less disastrous things.
If something is doable, someone will eventually do it. The trick is to limit the user as much as possible, whenever and wherever possible.
@@oliver_twistor yeah. I know that. Also I dont want to sound like I am defenfing them. I would propably forget to put that filter in. I primarily play games that have public or semipublic servers so they make their own rules. But I can totally see this being thing in MNORPGs
@@mmgmismas I didn't get the impression that you were defending them. I only wanted to explain why it's yet another sign that they aren't developers (of any kind), because even if they were software devs (like Garrison claims to be) and this is their first attempt at making a game, they shouldn't have made this glaring error (among other glaring errors even moderately experienced software developers wouldn't make).
However, it's easy to forget such details when their game has like 1 million other issues.
@@oliver_twistor yeah. I got that. I just wanted to make sure for anyone to not think I was defending them
is minecrafts online game not let u swear on the sign ?
Man, I thought Breach Scanner cought your password leak on dreamers world lol
Everyone's favorite shit show Dream World!
I just don't understand how anyone, developer or otherwise, could look at this and not immediately ascertain that the game is trash. The graphics are trash, the lighting is trash, the animations are trash, it's all just trash.
dream world is going to be a real game ?
me: i don't think miracles are enough
dream world devs: dream world is a miracle
me: press x to doubt
You don't need to censor the player input not everything on the internet has to be polite/pc
Unless you are making an mmo where not everyone is fine with assholes.
@@olivercharles2930 well maybe just grow up or play ff14
Can You use html for pictures in the sign?
Can you SQL inject their signboard? 😂
When I was in my early teens, me and some friends started our own Ultima online shard. When spent 99% of our time adding every item we could find. It was a mess and reminds me exactly of this game.
the big question is... can you execute code with the signs?
How is the word "gay" offensive? It's no more offensive than the word "straight" and shouldn't be censored
When a straight person gets called gay they more often than not find it offensive therefore in most mmo games the word gets censored the same way as any swear word would.
It was just one of the examples he used to show their incompetence don't dwell too much on it.
It isnt
But this is also an online mmo and the people tend to have the maturity of 9 year olds
@@lucynamarzec8000 I call BS. Name one game where the word is censored.
@@lucynamarzec8000 I did some research. It's only banned in kids games cuz it's considered adult themed. Like Roblox and Among Us.
@@grumpyginger9783 Chinese games.