Go to 1:25 and watch it in 0.25 speed, i think i finally understand. Hes breaking and downshifting but keeping the engine spining at full speed so he can start to acelerate out of that curve much faster. Its thats whats happening? I thought the car would lock or something like that if the rev was so high in 3rd, obviously i dont know anything.
Was just having this conversation with a friend last night who was an Atlantic driver from the early 90s. I'm from a karting background and also sports cars. Not as comfortable left foot braking in cars even if they are automatic, but can do it with ease in a kart. Have you ever run a trace of what it looks like with your right foot and compared lap times? What about braking zone distances? I'd be really curious to see the difference between the two too further investigate the topic my friend and I were discussing tonight. Any thoughts Mark?
I'm kind of curious myself hence why I occassionally run all the logging gear...but when I'm on track it tends to be all about fun and not so much about lap times. Even if I was at 100% I don't think I'm ever consistent enough over a full lap to get a good reliable read from the data. Also, for me at Goodwood (the only circuit I ever drive on now), I've been around so many times that I'm on auto pilot and left foot braking on the 4 entries that don't require a down shift is the most natural thing. The last time I right foot braked into the chicane messed me right up!
Interesting. I'm glad you touched on the consistency part. Many drivers forget in order to accurately see if X > Y you have to be able to put in lap times within about 0.300 to 0.500 of a second every single lap. I have a gut feeling whatever you're comfortable with is faster, though my friend with the Atlantic did both for years so he has some interesting data...but only 1 person! LOL! I'd like to do a video on this perhaps after practicing it for a long time. Tricky topic...
I found the stock brakes fine on track but far too assisted and grabby on the road. I'm now running DS2500 front pads which are slightly better on track and, with the lesser initial bite when cold, much nicer to use on the road.
I found the stock brakes fine on track but far too assisted and grabby on the road. I'm now running DS2500 front pads which are slightly better on track and, with the lesser initial bite when cold, much nicer to use on the road.
Hi Mark, Do you mind me asking what video editing software you use? My editing software is very limited and doesn't cater for picture in picture footage. Also what do you use to record the lap timings etc.?
+Philip Harbord Hi Philip For editing I use either Serif MoviePlus 6 or RaceRender 3. With multiple video streams I find MP6 far easier to work with than RR3, synchronising video and audio files is much more straightforward and you have far more options overall. I record the data using an Android phone running the app Torque Pro...this connects to the car's ECU via a bluetooth OBD adaptor. With the data (from Torque Pro) and video files (either raw or as output from MP6) RR3 is then what I use to pull it all together and it gives you hundreds of data dial and graphing options. More than I'll ever have time to try anyway. I hope that helps. Any other questions just fire away. M
+mark fontaine Hi Mark Apart from the simoultaneous brake and throttle blips along with harder than usual brake pressure I'm not doing anything that you wouldn't normally do on the road. I'm quite comfortable heel and toe shifting in house slippers, wellington boots, flip-flops, anything...the footwear's not really important, I find it's more about just having the feel, sensitivity, and familiarity of what you're doing which only comes with practice, practice, practice, and more practice. In this clip I'm wearing racing boots as I always (try to) do on track...they do give you a greater feel for what's going on, more assured foot placement/grip on the pedals and have a nice radius heel profile that helps when rolling my right foot about. That said they're not essential...I have forgotten to pack them many times and it's not a problem. I hope that helps...any more questions, fire away. Mark
+MarkCup70 cheers pal :) I'll confess I'm in the uk I love lads blipping the throttle but I love lads mashing old trainers up while blipping can't find anyone in to it :( safe
+MarkCup70 i love seeing lads mashing the boots/trainers on the pedal i love blipping the pedal its something im major in to does big feet help? how old are u pal as your good doing it , just wish i could have some m8s who share my passion for blipping
Turbo noises make me happy 😊
Go to 1:25 and watch it in 0.25 speed, i think i finally understand.
Hes breaking and downshifting but keeping the engine spining at full speed so he can start to acelerate out of that curve much faster.
Its thats whats happening? I thought the car would lock or something like that if the rev was so high in 3rd, obviously i dont know anything.
He’s giving the engine throttle on the downshift while braking, it’s a complicated technique but it means you won’t money shift and ruin your trans
Was just having this conversation with a friend last night who was an Atlantic driver from the early 90s. I'm from a karting background and also sports cars. Not as comfortable left foot braking in cars even if they are automatic, but can do it with ease in a kart.
Have you ever run a trace of what it looks like with your right foot and compared lap times? What about braking zone distances? I'd be really curious to see the difference between the two too further investigate the topic my friend and I were discussing tonight.
Any thoughts Mark?
I'm kind of curious myself hence why I occassionally run all the logging gear...but when I'm on track it tends to be all about fun and not so much about lap times. Even if I was at 100% I don't think I'm ever consistent enough over a full lap to get a good reliable read from the data.
Also, for me at Goodwood (the only circuit I ever drive on now), I've been around so many times that I'm on auto pilot and left foot braking on the 4 entries that don't require a down shift is the most natural thing. The last time I right foot braked into the chicane messed me right up!
Interesting. I'm glad you touched on the consistency part. Many drivers forget in order to accurately see if X > Y you have to be able to put in lap times within about 0.300 to 0.500 of a second every single lap.
I have a gut feeling whatever you're comfortable with is faster, though my friend with the Atlantic did both for years so he has some interesting data...but only 1 person! LOL!
I'd like to do a video on this perhaps after practicing it for a long time. Tricky topic...
Hey Mark how are the stock brakes on the FiST if you still use them? Also, how soft does the pedal get when tracking it this fast?
I found the stock brakes fine on track but far too assisted and grabby on the road. I'm now running DS2500 front pads which are slightly better on track and, with the lesser initial bite when cold, much nicer to use on the road.
I found the stock brakes fine on track but far too assisted and grabby on the road. I'm now running DS2500 front pads which are slightly better on track and, with the lesser initial bite when cold, much nicer to use on the road.
Hi Mark, Do you mind me asking what video editing software you use? My editing software is very limited and doesn't cater for picture in picture footage. Also what do you use to record the lap timings etc.?
+Philip Harbord
Hi Philip
For editing I use either Serif MoviePlus 6 or RaceRender 3.
With multiple video streams I find MP6 far easier to work with than RR3, synchronising video and audio files is much more straightforward and you have far more options overall.
I record the data using an Android phone running the app Torque Pro...this connects to the car's ECU via a bluetooth OBD adaptor.
With the data (from Torque Pro) and video files (either raw or as output from MP6) RR3 is then what I use to pull it all together and it gives you hundreds of data dial and graphing options. More than I'll ever have time to try anyway.
I hope that helps. Any other questions just fire away.
M
+MarkCup70 Thanks Mark
hi mark do u need bendy shoes for this or really flexable shoes, do u ened up mashing em up on the pedal?
+mark fontaine
Hi Mark
Apart from the simoultaneous brake and throttle blips along with harder than usual brake pressure I'm not doing anything that you wouldn't normally do on the road. I'm quite comfortable heel and toe shifting in house slippers, wellington boots, flip-flops, anything...the footwear's not really important, I find it's more about just having the feel, sensitivity, and familiarity of what you're doing which only comes with practice, practice, practice, and more practice.
In this clip I'm wearing racing boots as I always (try to) do on track...they do give you a greater feel for what's going on, more assured foot placement/grip on the pedals and have a nice radius heel profile that helps when rolling my right foot about. That said they're not essential...I have forgotten to pack them many times and it's not a problem.
I hope that helps...any more questions, fire away.
Mark
+MarkCup70 cheers pal :) I'll confess I'm in the uk I love lads blipping the throttle but I love lads mashing old trainers up while blipping can't find anyone in to it :( safe
+MarkCup70 i love seeing lads mashing the boots/trainers on the pedal i love blipping the pedal its something im major in to does big feet help? how old are u pal as your good doing it , just wish i could have some m8s who share my passion for blipping