One thing which helps is mental visualisation. One has to visualize your self saying it (even if you can't yet) and almost feel it in your body (even when you still can't) and then keep on practising. I can say both the rolled R and the French R, and this is how I learned the French R (even though I don't speak French). Visualization plus a few weeks of practice.
I finally got down the rolled r in spanish by mimicking the tt that sounds like dd when you say the word "butter". I just use that rolled sound when needed in spanish. Just keep saying the word "butter" and get the feeling for that rrrrrrrr. Hope this helps.
That's exactly the tip that helped me to get started and over the course of 6 to 9 months i had mastered it. Like Robin said, at first i could only do the flap r like 1 out of 10 times but then overtime i got it and moved onto the rolled r which is basically just multiple flap r's pronounced consecutively, this one was a bit trickier to perfect tho. I think it all boils down to practice at the end of the day and persevering long enough to get past that initial frustration.
I remember coming across this tip! Thanks for reminding me :) I'm English, so a 'tt' is pronounced as a 'tt' with my accent, but I'll try becoming a touch American and see if it helps haha
Anyway, this is the first comment here on this channel and I'm proud of you, for making a daily video and I want to share something which is specifically about "r" sound in French which is closely sounds similar to one of the alphabet in Arabic, so I'm not quite sure, if you haven't known that before, the people who live in Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco, those three countries can actually pronounce the sound "r" eventually, cause (I don't want to talk a lot) 😅 this sound is difficult cause in English and any other language which is closely to English, don't have that sound, we use it lots of times, even if we don't have the language itself. Like the different dialect which each country in middle East has... I hope anyone who is still encountering with "r" sound to achieve very soon...
Thanks for this Robin! I think I came across the same article, which made me keep wanting to try! After all, if I were born in Spain I wouldn't be struggling at all, right? I'll keep on trying and by time I get to learning another language I *might* have it down. And I agree, it would definitely be an interesting topic to get an expert to chat with you about! Also, just for anyone struggling with the French R, what made it click for me was when someone pointed out that it waaaay softer than instructional videos make it out to be. I think beginners get sucked into making a gutteral, agressive, dying cat sound, when (to me at least) it's one of the softest sounds in the language. Soften it up, you'll see!
Lily badhabit ñhey man I couldn't do the r in Spanish then I started learning German and their r is similar but not the same and it helped me get closer to the Spanish r
I accidently learned the rolling R sound when sitting on the sofa with my head handing down from the seat, so my tongue was relax and I tried to say D D D sound and it became some thing like the rolling R sound.
his other example was roku! some words that I can think of off the top of my head are taberu, arienai, aru, are, tomeru, harae, ore, tōru, hara, shaberu, yare (yare teze ;), renshū, korekara, subarashī, sore, wakatteru. also a tip that might be helpful: for jp words starting with r, your tongue starts in the jp r position, so it sounds more like a d
One thing which helps is mental visualisation. One has to visualize your self saying it (even if you can't yet) and almost feel it in your body (even when you still can't) and then keep on practising. I can say both the rolled R and the French R, and this is how I learned the French R (even though I don't speak French). Visualization plus a few weeks of practice.
I finally got down the rolled r in spanish by mimicking the tt that sounds like dd when you say the word "butter". I just use that rolled sound when needed in spanish. Just keep saying the word "butter" and get the feeling for that rrrrrrrr. Hope this helps.
That's exactly the tip that helped me to get started and over the course of 6 to 9 months i had mastered it. Like Robin said, at first i could only do the flap r like 1 out of 10 times but then overtime i got it and moved onto the rolled r which is basically just multiple flap r's pronounced consecutively, this one was a bit trickier to perfect tho. I think it all boils down to practice at the end of the day and persevering long enough to get past that initial frustration.
I remember coming across this tip! Thanks for reminding me :) I'm English, so a 'tt' is pronounced as a 'tt' with my accent, but I'll try becoming a touch American and see if it helps haha
I think shadowing would help with this as well. you get immediate feedback and practice to make the sounds.
Anyway, this is the first comment here on this channel and I'm proud of you, for making a daily video and I want to share something which is specifically about "r" sound in French which is closely sounds similar to one of the alphabet in Arabic, so I'm not quite sure, if you haven't known that before, the people who live in Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco, those three countries can actually pronounce the sound "r" eventually, cause (I don't want to talk a lot) 😅 this sound is difficult cause in English and any other language which is closely to English, don't have that sound, we use it lots of times, even if we don't have the language itself. Like the different dialect which each country in middle East has... I hope anyone who is still encountering with "r" sound to achieve very soon...
Thanks for this Robin! I think I came across the same article, which made me keep wanting to try! After all, if I were born in Spain I wouldn't be struggling at all, right? I'll keep on trying and by time I get to learning another language I *might* have it down. And I agree, it would definitely be an interesting topic to get an expert to chat with you about!
Also, just for anyone struggling with the French R, what made it click for me was when someone pointed out that it waaaay softer than instructional videos make it out to be. I think beginners get sucked into making a gutteral, agressive, dying cat sound, when (to me at least) it's one of the softest sounds in the language. Soften it up, you'll see!
Lily badhabit ñhey man I couldn't do the r in Spanish then I started learning German and their r is similar but not the same and it helped me get closer to the Spanish r
As a native spanish speaker, I had to go to therapy to correctly pronounce the Rs (and yes, my name is Ricardo hahaha).
@@icaitox how long did it take?
Another great video of yours! Thanks for sharing. Professor X here. Stay safe.
I accidently learned the rolling R sound when sitting on the sofa with my head handing down from the seat, so my tongue was relax and I tried to say D D D sound and it became some thing like the rolling R sound.
What about the r sound in russian?
Wow!! Arigato works! Any other Japanese words to practice?!
his other example was roku! some words that I can think of off the top of my head are taberu, arienai, aru, are, tomeru, harae, ore, tōru, hara, shaberu, yare (yare teze ;), renshū, korekara, subarashī, sore, wakatteru. also a tip that might be helpful: for jp words starting with r, your tongue starts in the jp r position, so it sounds more like a d
Origato Robin san!