The bug spray “could have been agent orange. I’ll tell you one thing, it was the best I’ve ever seen”. Lol I laughed too hard at that. Great dry humor.
My opinion on the war in Vietnam is, let's just say my opinion, but I found this man very interesting. I am in awe of his steel character. He has really seen some bad stuff and it's beyond me how he mentally survived. As I said, not exactly a fan of that war, but I respect this man.
@@seabiscuit6776 they were all kids back then. There was a war in my country early 90s, and a lot of young men were drafted too. I've met one of these soldiers with severe I'll health (due to war), years later. There is something about the experience that makes them grow up prematurely. They seem to have a unique outlook on life.
**I respect this guy,,, only because he respects those of us who refused to go,,, and fight someone else's war.... VIETNAM WAS NO THREAT THE UNITED STATES,,, AND THAT WAS A STUPID UNWINNABLE WAR,,, JUST LIKE THE IRAQ WAR...**...... HOPEFULLY AMERICA IS BACK ON THE RIGHT TRACK.... AND WE CAN STOP WASTING OUR RESOURCES,,, AND CREATING MORE ENEMIES,,, WITH THE SENSELESS WARS**
**I appreciate the fact,, that this guy respects those of us who refused to go to Vietnam,,,, I ONLY WISH,,, NO ONE HAD GONE AND FOUGHT IN THAT STUPID WAR.... IT WAS UNWINNABLE... THE ONLY ONES WHO WON,, WERE,,, BIG CORPORATION who,,, PROFIT ON WAR.....**
This rancher who served and spoke so eloquently and honestly , for this man not to have health insurance after serving his country is CRIMINAL . What the hell is America doing ? My 2 best friends are Veterans of Vietnam ... I thank God for them everyday . I'm humbly grateful for your service.
My dad is a USMC vet from the early '60s, he receives excellent care at the VA hospital near him(in Montana), when they can't take care of a particular condition, they fly him to Denver or Seattle or now he can even use the local private hospital in emergency situations and the VA will reimburse... I'm glad the VA exists, not perfect but something for our veterans, for all the complaints we might have about health care.
@Madam Murdrum yes, when my grandad was dying in the late '70s (WW2 vet, saw action in France, lived with shrapnel in his body his whole life& effects of gangrene) Castle Point VA facility in NY was as you describe... thankfully for our vets the VA is much improved, and yes, we are also eligible for VA services. Something still good in America, veterans deserve it.
I've listened to approx 50 of these Vietnam Veteran interviews. This man is completely fabulous. I'm in awe of his prideful fighting spirit and sincere blunt honest manner. These Vietnam men are the finest men the USA ever produced.
This is an incredible interview. Both the vet and the interviewer had a free flow of interesting information. Kudos to the interviewer for anticipating and asking the questions we are all thinking. Great job and thank you for the vet's service!
Spreading freedom to people by killing them🤔 This individual without question went to kill people for freedom without asking any questions about the history of Vietnam & what led up to this war. The rights & wrongs of the situation etc. And risked death or injury himself. Brave or stupid ? Indoctrined cannon fodder
@@PiceaSitchensis All these Vietnam videos are basically BS. These veterans willingly chose to go to an unwinnable, illegal war. If they say otherwise they are promoting a falsehood. A lot of these people push the image that they could or did win the war, but the "politicians" and the "people back home" lost it. Vietnam was a national American disgrace, tragedy and defeat...and they share in the responsibility of it. The politicians and American people saw that the war was not being won, or was unwinnable. The US never really had the "hearts and minds" of the South Vietnamese people...who they supposedly were fighting for. They don't talk much about the war crimes they committed against the Vietnamese....OR even against their own personnel. Lastly, whether these guys won or lost...the Vietnam war had absolutely NO effect on American freedom, security, safety or way of life. They did NOT sacrifice anything for my...or your freedom. These veterans present themselves as victims and wrongly treated. They are big boys and went to a country to kill or be killed. They shared in the failure. Now they want to be recognized for their "sacrifice" through videos, Honor Flights, endless trips to the Wall in DC or to Vietnam itself. They never grew up and really moved on. They have made themselves an embarrassment to themselves and my generation.
He had some ideas. He felt those ideas justified killing people. The US added so much chaos and suffering and death in an already chaotic situation. It was a disaster for all involved.
@@meghan42 He could have fled to Canada like the rat fucker pacifists. Instead he chose service to his country. You could learn something from this man.
Thank you for your service, Mr. Kirn. I'm the son of a two-time Purple Heart recipient Vietnam combat medic who suffered from severe PTSD throughout my life. Your comment about how it affects the family is spot on. My dad managed to hold his family together with the help a great woman, my mom. He died of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in 2012 which the VA finally attributed to exposure to Agent Orange. He's my hero and so are you and the rest of you who served us.
I always enjoy listening to these Stories. No one seems to interview the vets does as well a Job, as Daryl, of the Billings Gazette does. Much respect to all the Veterans, interviewed. You all inspired me and continue to do so. -J
my husband served in Vietnam as a Combat Engineer Lt. 1969 thru 1970 as this man. My husband had a group of convicts he supervised. My husband said you never knew if the Vietcong was going to slit your throat or the convicts. lol. He survived it but died at 47. He was a troubled man. God bless you all for your service.
I hope the Vietnam Voices series will record the testimonies from the Families of the veterans, that really would demonstrate the true extent of untold grief and hardship. Your tragic story deserves to be documented. Amazing to think that USA Forces would allow a group of convicts to be grouped together in the same place.
Your a man that we all should have respect for. It's sad to think the VA has failed you. As others have said, God bless you, and you should be proud of your service.
**WOULDN'T IT BE NICE,,, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HEAR STORIES OF SURVIVORS OF WARS,,,THAT WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH!!!!! AMERICA HAD NO BUSINESS IN VIETNAM!!!!**
@@johnedward3404 shouldn't you be out protesting? Theres new causes out there you can join that you don't believe in either. But you'll be able to scream and cry and fulfill your need to feel morally superior.
Mr. Kirn thank you very much. Your time in Vietnam is very honorable, you volunteered and fellow soldiers depended on you with their lives. Mission accomplished.
So sad to hear he has to fight for his right to medical treatment. It’s a disgrace. God love him. Best wishes from Ireland and I wish you all the best for the future.
@Christian Allen It is genocide to travel thousands of miles to carpet bomb innocent rice farmers . You suffer from PTSd = accepting wars of aggression from our 836 military bases in 170 countries when China AND Russia have only eleven outside their countries . You personally owe 60,000 dollars for your share of the 7 trillion spent murdering children and other living things . Explain it to your Godless spiritual leader . Who would Jesus murder ? See Dr. Alan Sabrosky's 911 Documentary . Get an education prior to war glorification remarks please . Go fight the wars on your own dime , not mine .christian crusader for the Talmud = your slave master .
@Christian Allen Wrong again . My friends were there and report carpet bombing and agent orange forever poisoning on them and the enemy . 911was an inside job for the same military industrial complex global financiers . You need to see our Noahide Laws # 5,6,and 7 . And the WMDs in Iraq genocide based on 911 lies to war for your Sabbatean -Frankist ministers of YOUR spiritual leader who backs sanhedrin 56a -59 pedo activity of Rabbis and Pharisees okayed . Go to Pedo Island with Drumpf , Weinstein and Larry Silverstein and see what happens there . See Gaza Fights for FrEEDOM , JFK to 911 ; everything is a rich man's trick . Dr. ALan Sabrosky's proofs , Dr. Judy Wood's " Where did the towers go " and AE911truth 3,000 architects and engineers for (!! truth , Dr. Hulsey's BLDG.#n & report on 911 Freefall demolition of tower #7 . Also if you dare to educate your blood lust self see hellstormdocumentary.com/watch/ , and Know More News . Plenty of PROOF to show you too are a Sabbatean - Frankist knowingly or not . Why QWe Fight documentary explains your satanist narrative to rationalize the genocide by air of poor people far away . Our CONSTITUTION DEMANDS we are NOT the worlds police . You are a blood lust vampire too chicken to fight your own wars with your own money . a chicken hawk war glorifier for your slave masters . good lick with that when you get to hell .Look where our country is today due to your blood lust 50 trillion dollars in debt to your slave masters . Learn math too . war monger from hell .
@Christian Allen Macnamara , the architect of the Vietnam police action , not a declared war said the lies to that war do exist as he made up the lies . My uncle loaded bombs for the carpet bombing of rice farmers . The U.S. CORPORATION since the act of 1871 has been at war 97 5 of it's existence as the mercenary ring of power with the vatican and the city of london bankstas . see the jesuit oath also for reference . You need a lesson in caring and principles . You help lie to war . That is cowardly . so is borrowing/stealing money from OUR grandchildren for your false sense of security as a chicken hawk .
@Christian Allen You call yourself Christian ? Follow the leads for a real education and situational awareness . War glorifiers are the cause of war and ruined lives and debt that is borrowed at interest from the bankstas that bankroll both sides of EVERY one of YOUR wars . Thanking Satan is Not appropriate while the world's rights are taken by your types explained carefully above . We tried it your way and lost all high ground . You are taking good people down with your greedy self . A blood lust vampire needs to be identified and jailed for crimes against humanity . You are the enemy within against decent folks . That is why I identify you as such .Are you a buggerer ? Another ignorant remark .
I've been watching a lot of these lately. Although I was very close a few times I never enlisted. These men have been through hell and back, and thinking of how much the world loses when so many young men die is heartbreaking. But I am glad the ones who made it back, did. And my gratefulness for these guys who fought so I didn't have to is unmeasurable.
This series of interviews, which I have been listening to over the past year since I began working from home due to pandemic, is profoundly insightful. I never heard this first-person, long-form explanation about the time period. I never heard how folks moved on after, how folks found themselves involved, and their long-term views of the subject. Fascinating interviews, great job by reporter.
**IT'S JUST SO SAD TO ME,,, THAT THESE GUYS DON'T REALIZE,, THEY GOT USED FOR CANNON FODDER.... SO THAT BIG CORPORATIONS COULD MAKE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!! WE HAD NO GOOD REASON THE FIGHT THAT UNWINNABLE WAR AND INFLICT SO MUCH PAIN ON SO MANY PEOPLE
This guy seemed so jovial and pleasant. It really saddened me to learn how he lost his family due to his struggle with it PTSD. May God comfort this man and his family.
I heard that, I thought he was going to shed a tear. I'm disabled also and have PTSD and it caused me to get divorced just few months ago and it's very emotional. She is a great woman and I screwed it up.
@LowEnergyBoomer Any one that lived in the 60's and 70's would know the moral standards were far different then than now. It was how she was raised and family beliefs because after he got out of the service she married him. I know how much it meant to him if she would come to Hawaii. Some guys in Vietnam had girl friends back home and one day they get a letter she doesn't want to be a girl friend any longer , those were tough to the guys that got dumped so far away from home. Even a married man may get notice his loving wife back home is filing for a divorce. You could only write letters back and forth it was rare to get to use a telephone.
@LowEnergyBoomer my mother probably would've told my dad that it was too expensive, but they're still married 51 years later. Different times and different standards. Mom wasn't allowed to marry dad after college until dad had a contract to be a teacher. It was just a formality that he'd get a job back then, but they still had to wait and his father in law wanted him to work on their farm while he waited to make sure that dad was a capable worker. This was 1972.
Most of these wives are wack for leaving during their hardest times. What happened to till death do we part? Worst part is that they end up with some other coward dude who wouldn’t dare serve their country
This is remarkable in every way. Not many have the emotional health, at the age of 18, to do what this guy did in Vietnam, and how he tells his story today.
I worked for a ptsd clinic outside Chicago. I loved getting to help these guys who served. There is help out there that isn’t pills and isn’t just talk therapy. I’ve listened to a dozen of these over the last few months and I live the entire series. Thank you for doing this, these are stories people need to hear.
'pills' what wrong with you ? a diagnosis of post trauma stress needs medical help .. why you presuming vets abuse medicine ? you werent over n Nam unbelievable ... public still negatively judging ...
Someone reading this who has the money should contact this newspaper and send this man to Vietnam all these years later. If I had the money, I would send him if he still wanted to go. Respect!
@@johnedward3404I think you know full well that what you say is not true, but you say it because you want someone to argue with you. Arguing with people on the Internet is the closest thing to human interaction you can get, because you don't have any friends and nobody likes you or can stand actually being around you for long.
You can tell how invested this man is in this interview, referring to his commanding officer as “six”. Seems like he remembered all of this like it were yesterday. Welcome home
I'm 73 was in country 65 to 68 with the 229 th Air Cav. I got a theory about the suicides hapening now. We in the 60's that went. Grew up with WWII and Korea not that far away from us. My Dad told me his stories from the war and we grew up playing us against the Nazis. I think we were more patriotic then we didn't question our country as much. Thank you for the great interview with.
From what I read about it, there’s layers deeper but believing your service was worthwhile or questioning the meaning is the greatest layer of the trauma. Isolation, feeling like no one would ever understand. Feeling like a shitty person
Sebastian Junger has a great book on it called "Tribe" in his speeches he mentions how WW2 soldiers didn't have the same problems as the Vietnam Vets and thought it was because they were welcomed home by their communities. PTSD is PTSD though, veterans of all wars are going to have it.
@@mozfonky I believe author Patience H.C. Mason wrote about the halls of veterans' organizations, such as the American Legion Posts, had bars that were for self-medication.
@IM SORRY GOOGLE We, in that era were patriotic or practical (inductees); where now with volunteer svc there are many, imo, mercinary minded people or as he related earlier 'killers'. The, I believe, are more prone to be the suicidees he referred to.
As a Jarhead radio operator I can understand what you say when you rarely used your weapon. My weapon like yours was the radio and my guys came back because of skill and calmness. Thank you for your open honest story, I'm one veteran that it has helped.
Thank you for your brave service to our country. In the 1990s I joined the US Army National Guard, as an 11 Bravo. Eventually I tore ligaments in my ankle, which I would wrap up and hid for a while. Eventually my anke swelled up so bad I couldn't get my combat boots on. I had to get out after a few years with Medical discharge, but I'm so glad I had the chance to serve my country for a couple of years.
My eternal respect to the brave heroes of the Viet Cong. Sadly this invading imperialist child-murdering scumbag made it back home alive :( but so many did not! they got what they rightly deserved :)
It was a basic Civil War.. Not having the right educated advisors in military and government too often leads to enormous tragic lives lost.Vietnam today is a blend of Communism and capitalism.Cruise ships go there and it’s a vacation destination.
Man, to know what you are going into in advance and still volunteer, that is bravery right there. Thanks to everyone who was over there and welcome home.
This great man had such a mature attitude going in. He used his head. Maybe his upbringing in Montana which is not like growing up in LA. You had to be tough and make decisions early in life. Such a hero. You’ll prolly never see this, but you’re loved by the America sir.
Much respect sir, son of a Korean War Marine here - I know such pain - A true warrior perseveres yet fights the good fight throughout the journey - This warrior deserves to be honored and cared for no matter what - I wonder how Douglas is doing these days...
I've been service connected at 100% for PTSD for 10 years now.... my physical scars cannot compare to the mental or emotional scars. I adore this guy and every and anyone who's been in his situation.
Nothing, and i mean nothing like you have experienced... medically retired trauma nurse... The 1st 20 minutes of Saving Private Ryan, i nearly spewed in the movie theatre.... Because those scene brought back so many trauma victims id nursed, who suffered, and suddenly every awful scene and resuscitation id ever been part of came back at me full force... I was so traumatised, i swear i could have downed a bottle of whisky and been stone cold sober... The reason it affected me so badly, is because i had a broken neck, my own trauma, so i never got to "retire".... PTSD isnt selective in who it bites.... I so hope you have full assistance to stay well... Love, peace and blessings...
I was a Forward Observer for A company 1st 46th Infantry of the 198th Light Infantry Brigade. I enjoyed Mr Kims descriptions of his job. I was in the central highlands from October 1968 to May 1969. We got a helicopter in once a week and they never sent water out for us. We had to pick water up from rice paddies or rivers and streams so I drank a lot of agent orange. After I had been in the field for 3 months I got a new RTO. He was a little skinny kid and he had trouble managing his ruck so the first day we were going to night lager on top of a mountain and I offered to carry his ruck with the radio. I figured I would have to have the radio when I got to the top and I knew he wouldn't get there when I did. When the RTO did get to the top he was mad as hell. I couldn't figure why he was so mad. He said lift my pack now lift yours. I did and my pack was noticeably heavier than his was even with the radio. He thought it was a dirty trick.
You know, and he didn’t really say it, but going over there and experiencing what he experienced gives you a whole new appreciation for how great this country really is, thank you for your service sir it means a lot.
As I am listening the end of this video, came to one conclusion Our country has mostly forgot about the vets , the only people who care are people like us in these amazing comments, thank u for your service, 6 years later I wish u well , these interviews are by far the best , great story 👍, I thank u for That
My dad was in WWII and he told me that they would march long distances and he was so tired he would nod off while still walking and start to snore and wake himself up.
This guy is the most interesting and informative and fun guy of all the ones I've listened to.Just like going back to my time in and BS ing with another guy in there with me.Wonderful memories.
What a very nice down to earth man. Nothing he said glorified anything just speaks so honest. All you people that served in that war have my total respect.
I became interested in Vietnam, Korea and World War II due to my 10th grade history teacher Mr. Rivkin back in 79. What a excellent teacher he was. Thanks to all these vets for their stories. God Bless., and for the Billings Gazette the venue to have their stories told.
Thank you Montanan. As a vet I am impressed by your perseverance. Thank you for talking to us. The medical and mental care of vets is in need of great improvement, OR cut down on the number of vets with less combat.
You sir are a hero and a genuine honest cowboy.. I’m English I serves in Iraq Bosnia and Croatia. I have lived and retired in Vietnam since 2015 I live in a town on the coast called vung tau I’m sure you’ve heard of it, there are lots of Australian and American vets here, we work with orphanages and charities, once the covid is finished, it would be my honour to meet you and show you around.
Cheers from Casper Wyoming. Blessings to all these souls that went through these experiences. These people should always be cared for. The families serve too. We endure the absence and pain brought about by service. And sometimes they leave us too soon because of physical or psychological illness. Thank you service men and women....thank you!!
Gregory Todd Smith Love this persons story I served 4 years USAF 65- 69 438 MAH wasAt Clark PI 67-68. I always thought. About tthem and thought about how I was fortunate not to be in combat.
Anne Liddle . and what benefit did Canada get ? That was a police action , not a declared war . It was a lost effort and no one learns from their mistaken genocide , just continue to glorify it even though 3.8 million people were murdered . NOT SMART but continues with brain dead ZOMBIE mentality .
@@robertdownes793 What important decision am I making?!?! That's just my opinion based on personal experiences and if you dont like it then keep scrolling.
B M it’s okay though, some people still have BALLS in this country, some of us are still MEN just let them do they’re job while you stay the fuck outta the way and be a titty baby your entire life 🤣🤣
@B M Would you rather wait and have to kill them here to preserve your way of life and your CONSTITUTIONAL right to freedom of speech against the presiding government and to be able to make comments like the one you just made?
@@Dawgs241 Matthew 12:39-42 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA) ^39 Who answering said to them: An evil and adulterous generation seeketh a sign: and a sign shall not be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. ^40 For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.
@@jesuschristislordoflordsan427 Amen. We live in a fallen world with war, sickness, hate, murder,..etc, however we are victorious through Jesus Christ and await His return. "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." (John 16:33). And when we experience suffering in this world we need not forget, "I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us". (Romans 8:18).
I came across these interviews a few weeks ago. I think what your doing here is awesome. These guys stories are really interesting. I was born in 67 and I remember the Vietnam war on the TV every night as a young child. Luckily no one in my immediate family fought over there. That war has always fascinated me and listening to these guys real stories helps fill in all the blanks left by all the documentaries and movies on the subject. Keep up the good work.
dc has, me too, born in 63, my oldest brother just missed the draft, my dad was in Korea, I have watched so many of these, real men they are and they are slowly leaving us.
I was born 65 and I have 1 uncle that went. He will not talk about it. I spent most of my life wondering about the hell these people went through. These guys were tough as hell.
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Thank you for your service sir and welcome home
The bug spray “could have been agent orange. I’ll tell you one thing, it was the best I’ve ever seen”. Lol I laughed too hard at that. Great dry humor.
This dude just made my heroes list. Down to earth, straight shooter nothing but respect.
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you finally getting veterans benefits services .. very good .. Today is veterans day here n hawaii
nov11,2023 .. Happy veterans Day !
One of the best interviews I’ve heard on the Vietnam War! Thank you for your Service, Sir.
My opinion on the war in Vietnam is, let's just say my opinion, but I found this man very interesting. I am in awe of his steel character. He has really seen some bad stuff and it's beyond me how he mentally survived. As I said, not exactly a fan of that war, but I respect this man.
makemarker I agree with you. I respect the men and women that served, but I disrespect the “leaders” that sent them.
@@seabiscuit6776 they were all kids back then. There was a war in my country early 90s, and a lot of young men were drafted too. I've met one of these soldiers with severe I'll health (due to war), years later. There is something about the experience that makes them grow up prematurely. They seem to have a unique outlook on life.
Yeah I definitely agree
**I respect this guy,,, only because he respects those of us who refused to go,,, and fight someone else's war.... VIETNAM WAS NO THREAT THE UNITED STATES,,, AND THAT WAS A STUPID UNWINNABLE WAR,,, JUST LIKE THE IRAQ WAR...**...... HOPEFULLY AMERICA IS BACK ON THE RIGHT TRACK.... AND WE CAN STOP WASTING OUR RESOURCES,,, AND CREATING MORE ENEMIES,,, WITH THE SENSELESS WARS**
What a genuine down to earth man, I enjoyed your interview and thank you for sharing sir.
**I appreciate the fact,, that this guy respects those of us who refused to go to Vietnam,,,, I ONLY WISH,,, NO ONE HAD GONE AND FOUGHT IN THAT STUPID WAR.... IT WAS UNWINNABLE... THE ONLY ONES WHO WON,, WERE,,, BIG CORPORATION who,,, PROFIT ON WAR.....**
This rancher who served and spoke so eloquently and honestly , for this man not to have health insurance after serving his country is CRIMINAL . What the hell is America doing ?
My 2 best friends are Veterans of Vietnam ... I thank God for them everyday .
I'm humbly grateful for your service.
Why would he not go to Veterans hospital? He should have benefits.
He qualifies for VA care unless he got a dishonorable which he didn't
Afaik he is eligible for VA benefits
My dad is a USMC vet from the early '60s, he receives excellent care at the VA hospital near him(in Montana), when they can't take care of a particular condition, they fly him to Denver or Seattle or now he can even use the local private hospital in emergency situations and the VA will reimburse... I'm glad the VA exists, not perfect but something for our veterans, for all the complaints we might have about health care.
@Madam Murdrum yes, when my grandad was dying in the late '70s (WW2 vet, saw action in France, lived with shrapnel in his body his whole life& effects of gangrene) Castle Point VA facility in NY was as you describe... thankfully for our vets the VA is much improved, and yes, we are also eligible for VA services. Something still good in America, veterans deserve it.
I've listened to approx 50 of these Vietnam Veteran interviews. This man is completely fabulous. I'm in awe of his prideful fighting spirit and sincere blunt honest manner. These Vietnam men are the finest men the USA ever produced.
This is an incredible interview. Both the vet and the interviewer had a free flow of interesting information. Kudos to the interviewer for anticipating and asking the questions we are all thinking. Great job and thank you for the vet's service!
Freedom isn't free , amazing! Extraordinarily man thank you for your service , love from Australia
WTF are you talking about?
Spreading freedom to people by killing them🤔
This individual without question went to kill people for freedom without asking any questions about the history of Vietnam & what led up to this war. The rights & wrongs of the situation etc. And risked death or injury himself. Brave or stupid ?
Indoctrined cannon fodder
@@PiceaSitchensis All these Vietnam videos are basically BS. These veterans willingly chose to go to an unwinnable, illegal war. If they say otherwise they are promoting a falsehood. A lot of these people push the image that they could or did win the war, but the "politicians" and the "people back home" lost it. Vietnam was a national American disgrace, tragedy and defeat...and they share in the responsibility of it. The politicians and American people saw that the war was not being won, or was unwinnable. The US never really had the "hearts and minds" of the South Vietnamese people...who they supposedly were fighting for. They don't talk much about the war crimes they committed against the Vietnamese....OR even against their own personnel. Lastly, whether these guys won or lost...the Vietnam war had absolutely NO effect on American freedom, security, safety or way of life. They did NOT sacrifice anything for my...or your freedom. These veterans present themselves as victims and wrongly treated. They are big boys and went to a country to kill or be killed. They shared in the failure. Now they want to be recognized for their "sacrifice" through videos, Honor Flights, endless trips to the Wall in DC or to Vietnam itself. They never grew up and really moved on. They have made themselves an embarrassment to themselves and my generation.
Thank you Doug, thank you for coming home. You are loved and respected.
J
Thank you for serving
Best interview ever , god bless this man
Great interview. Many thanks.
I had tears in my eyes, listening to this man. This is a real soldier. Respect
There are a lot of these "Vietnam Voices" that leave me feeling like a blithering crybaby. What an honor to hear their voices.
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@@DoctorMangler I honestly don't get it. I listen to this man, and I feel sorry for him. He is the poster boy for a lack of free will.
He had some ideas. He felt those ideas justified killing people. The US added so much chaos and suffering and death in an already chaotic situation. It was a disaster for all involved.
@@meghan42 He could have fled to Canada like the rat fucker pacifists. Instead he chose service to his country. You could learn something from this man.
Thank you for doing these interviews so so much.
Thank you for your service, Mr. Kirn.
I'm the son of a two-time Purple Heart recipient Vietnam combat medic who suffered from severe PTSD throughout my life. Your comment about how it affects the family is spot on. My dad managed to hold his family together with the help a great woman, my mom. He died of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in 2012 which the VA finally attributed to exposure to Agent Orange.
He's my hero and so are you and the rest of you who served us.
Thank you for your service Douglas. You are a great American.
I’d feel privileged to shake this man’s hand and thank him.
I always enjoy listening to these Stories. No one seems to interview the vets does as well a Job, as Daryl, of the Billings Gazette does. Much respect to all the Veterans, interviewed. You all inspired me and continue to do so. -J
my husband served in Vietnam as a Combat Engineer Lt. 1969 thru 1970 as this man. My husband had a group of convicts he supervised. My husband said you never knew if the Vietcong was going to slit your throat or the convicts. lol. He survived it but died at 47. He was a troubled man. God bless you all for your service.
I hope the Vietnam Voices series will record the testimonies from the Families of the veterans, that really would demonstrate the true extent of untold grief and hardship.
Your tragic story deserves to be documented. Amazing to think that USA Forces would allow a group of convicts to be grouped together in the same place.
he wasnt a 'troubled man'
he was normal for his adnormal
insane xperience .. wow you think
before talk about dead ok .. aloha
Thank you for your service! Another great interview!
Thank you for your service! Tough as nails!
Growing up in northeast Montana, you gotta be tough. Its brutal out there.
so candid!
Excellent interview. What a marvellous insight.
Respect from Poland. Real guy. Look at youth of today…. So sad.
Thank you Douglas and thank you for this series
Thank god for men like you!! Thank you for your service sir .
Your a man that we all should have respect for. It's sad to think the VA has failed you. As others have said, God bless you, and you should be proud of your service.
**WOULDN'T IT BE NICE,,, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HEAR STORIES OF SURVIVORS OF WARS,,,THAT WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH!!!!! AMERICA HAD NO BUSINESS IN VIETNAM!!!!**
@@johnedward3404 shouldn't you be out protesting? Theres new causes out there you can join that you don't believe in either. But you'll be able to scream and cry and fulfill your need to feel morally superior.
Mr. Kirn thank you very much. Your time in Vietnam is very honorable, you volunteered and fellow soldiers depended on you with their lives. Mission accomplished.
Thank you for your service and I wish you well!
this guy is hurting, but his main focus is "somebody help that other kid that is getting it worse than me". That demands respect
@@jedidiahvalentin3899 care to explain how this is relevant to this comment section ?
So sad to hear he has to fight for his right to medical treatment. It’s a disgrace. God love him. Best wishes from Ireland and I wish you all the best for the future.
He is just so matter of fact and humble. He is one of my fav in this series. This is such a great series!
I’d love to shake Doug’s hand and tell him how much I appreciate his service to America. God Bless Doug.
Jim H What did he do for America...from Vietnam??🤷♂️
@Christian Allen It is genocide to travel thousands of miles to carpet bomb innocent rice farmers . You suffer from PTSd = accepting wars of aggression from our 836 military bases in 170 countries when China AND Russia have only eleven outside their countries . You personally owe 60,000 dollars for your share of the 7 trillion spent murdering children and other living things . Explain it to your Godless spiritual leader . Who would Jesus murder ? See Dr. Alan Sabrosky's 911 Documentary . Get an education prior to war glorification remarks please . Go fight the wars on your own dime , not mine .christian crusader for the Talmud = your slave master .
@Christian Allen Wrong again . My friends were there and report carpet bombing and agent orange forever poisoning on them and the enemy . 911was an inside job for the same military industrial complex global financiers . You need to see our Noahide Laws # 5,6,and 7 . And the WMDs in Iraq genocide based on 911 lies to war for your Sabbatean -Frankist ministers of YOUR spiritual leader who backs sanhedrin 56a -59 pedo activity of Rabbis and Pharisees okayed . Go to Pedo Island with Drumpf , Weinstein and Larry Silverstein and see what happens there . See Gaza Fights for FrEEDOM , JFK to 911 ; everything is a rich man's trick . Dr. ALan Sabrosky's proofs , Dr. Judy Wood's " Where did the towers go " and AE911truth 3,000 architects and engineers for (!! truth , Dr. Hulsey's BLDG.#n & report on 911 Freefall demolition of tower #7 . Also if you dare to educate your blood lust self see hellstormdocumentary.com/watch/ , and Know More News . Plenty of PROOF to show you too are a Sabbatean - Frankist knowingly or not . Why QWe Fight documentary explains your satanist narrative to rationalize the genocide by air of poor people far away . Our CONSTITUTION DEMANDS we are NOT the worlds police . You are a blood lust vampire too chicken to fight your own wars with your own money . a chicken hawk war glorifier for your slave masters . good lick with that when you get to hell .Look where our country is today due to your blood lust 50 trillion dollars in debt to your slave masters . Learn math too . war monger from hell .
@Christian Allen Macnamara , the architect of the Vietnam police action , not a declared war said the lies to that war do exist as he made up the lies . My uncle loaded bombs for the carpet bombing of rice farmers . The U.S. CORPORATION since the act of 1871 has been at war 97 5 of it's existence as the mercenary ring of power with the vatican and the city of london bankstas . see the jesuit oath also for reference . You need a lesson in caring and principles . You help lie to war . That is cowardly . so is borrowing/stealing money from OUR grandchildren for your false sense of security as a chicken hawk .
@Christian Allen You call yourself Christian ? Follow the leads for a real education and situational awareness . War glorifiers are the cause of war and ruined lives and debt that is borrowed at interest from the bankstas that bankroll both sides of EVERY one of YOUR wars . Thanking Satan is Not appropriate while the world's rights are taken by your types explained carefully above . We tried it your way and lost all high ground . You are taking good people down with your greedy self . A blood lust vampire needs to be identified and jailed for crimes against humanity . You are the enemy within against decent folks . That is why I identify you as such .Are you a buggerer ? Another ignorant remark .
A Real American and A real man, not once did I hear him blame anyone for what happened to his life after coming back except the VA ( who deserves it )
Thank you so much for sharing all your experiences. Its a tribute to all the hero's that fell during battle. Douglas kirn
Straight talking Good old boy, glad he made it home
I've been watching a lot of these lately. Although I was very close a few times I never enlisted. These men have been through hell and back, and thinking of how much the world loses when so many young men die is heartbreaking. But I am glad the ones who made it back, did. And my gratefulness for these guys who fought so I didn't have to is unmeasurable.
This series of interviews, which I have been listening to over the past year since I began working from home due to pandemic, is profoundly insightful. I never heard this first-person, long-form explanation about the time period. I never heard how folks moved on after, how folks found themselves involved, and their long-term views of the subject. Fascinating interviews, great job by reporter.
I agree Joel.
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**IT'S JUST SO SAD TO ME,,, THAT THESE GUYS DON'T REALIZE,, THEY GOT USED FOR CANNON FODDER.... SO THAT BIG CORPORATIONS COULD MAKE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!! WE HAD NO GOOD REASON THE FIGHT THAT UNWINNABLE WAR AND INFLICT SO MUCH PAIN ON SO MANY PEOPLE
This guy seemed so jovial and pleasant. It really saddened me to learn how he lost his family due to his struggle with it PTSD. May God comfort this man and his family.
Yea please call Brandon tomorrow morning and 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
That part at 1:12:06 about PTSD playing a role of why his wife divorced him, That hit home for me, I felt that. Salute to your sir
I heard that, I thought he was going to shed a tear. I'm disabled also and have PTSD and it caused me to get divorced just few months ago and it's very emotional. She is a great woman and I screwed it up.
@LowEnergyBoomer Any one that lived in the 60's and 70's would know the moral standards were far different then than now. It was how she was raised and family beliefs because after he got out of the service she married him. I know how much it meant to him if she would come to Hawaii. Some guys in Vietnam had girl friends back home and one day they get a letter she doesn't want to be a girl friend any longer , those were tough to the guys that got dumped so far away from home. Even a married man may get notice his loving wife back home is filing for a divorce. You could only write letters back and forth it was rare to get to use a telephone.
@LowEnergyBoomer my mother probably would've told my dad that it was too expensive, but they're still married 51 years later. Different times and different standards. Mom wasn't allowed to marry dad after college until dad had a contract to be a teacher. It was just a formality that he'd get a job back then, but they still had to wait and his father in law wanted him to work on their farm while he waited to make sure that dad was a capable worker. This was 1972.
Most of these wives are wack for leaving during their hardest times. What happened to till death do we part? Worst part is that they end up with some other coward dude who wouldn’t dare serve their country
@LowEnergyBoomer or a draft dodging Republican like Trump.Big flags big trucks no balls
Thank you for your service my friend!
Great guy !
This is remarkable in every way. Not many have the emotional health, at the age of 18, to do what this guy did in Vietnam, and how he tells his story today.
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He never said money is why
I worked for a ptsd clinic outside Chicago. I loved getting to help these guys who served. There is help out there that isn’t pills and isn’t just talk therapy. I’ve listened to a dozen of these over the last few months and I live the entire series. Thank you for doing this, these are stories people need to hear.
'pills' what wrong with you ?
a diagnosis of post trauma stress
needs medical help .. why you
presuming vets abuse medicine ?
you werent over n Nam
unbelievable ... public still
negatively judging ...
Mom was 1st Lt WWII born Scobie Montana. That fella is one amazing human being, God love em.
Thank you Douglas, a man that served because he has a heart of gold!
I have a liver of aluminum
Someone reading this who has the money should contact this newspaper and send this man to Vietnam all these years later. If I had the money, I would send him if he still wanted to go. Respect!
**I think if he went to Vietnam, he would regret the fact that he took part in the war....**
@@johnedward3404 I bet you would be wrong.
@@johnedward3404ridiculous.
@@johnedward3404I think you know full well that what you say is not true, but you say it because you want someone to argue with you. Arguing with people on the Internet is the closest thing to human interaction you can get, because you don't have any friends and nobody likes you or can stand actually being around you for long.
You can tell how invested this man is in this interview, referring to his commanding officer as “six”. Seems like he remembered all of this like it were yesterday. Welcome home
He was one of the lucky ones, havin an air mattress and a choice of chow. Absolute respect for these men.
I'm 73 was in country 65 to 68 with the 229 th Air Cav. I got a theory about the suicides hapening now. We in the 60's that went. Grew up with WWII and Korea not that far away from us. My Dad told me his stories from the war and we grew up playing us against the Nazis. I think we were more patriotic then we didn't question our country as much. Thank you for the great interview with.
From what I read about it, there’s layers deeper but believing your service was worthwhile or questioning the meaning is the greatest layer of the trauma. Isolation, feeling like no one would ever understand. Feeling like a shitty person
Thank you Dan for your service
Sebastian Junger has a great book on it called "Tribe" in his speeches he mentions how WW2 soldiers didn't have the same problems as the Vietnam Vets and thought it was because they were welcomed home by their communities. PTSD is PTSD though, veterans of all wars are going to have it.
@@mozfonky I believe author Patience H.C. Mason wrote about the halls of veterans' organizations, such as the American Legion Posts, had bars that were for self-medication.
@IM SORRY GOOGLE We, in that era were patriotic or practical (inductees); where now with volunteer svc there are many, imo, mercinary minded people or as he related earlier 'killers'. The, I believe, are more prone to be the suicidees he referred to.
As a Jarhead radio operator I can understand what you say when you rarely used your weapon.
My weapon like yours was the radio and my guys came back because of skill and calmness.
Thank you for your open honest story, I'm one veteran that it has helped.
Thanks for your service Gabe.
Thanks Gabe, hope you’re doing alright mentally. We appreciate you
Thank you for your brave service to our country. In the 1990s I joined the US Army National Guard, as an 11 Bravo. Eventually I tore ligaments in my ankle, which I would wrap up and hid for a while. Eventually my anke swelled up so bad I couldn't get my combat boots on. I had to get out after a few years with Medical discharge, but I'm so glad I had the chance to serve my country for a couple of years.
Thank you for your service sir. Welcome home
Thank you sir for your service, and your time to share your story!
Without a doubt he's the most honest and funniest interesting and enjoyable interview yet we are proud of you sir
Great interview! Thank you for your service.
It's a shame the way our government treats our veterans.
Just a great interview. The best.
He is carrying a heavy load.....God Bless him .........
My eternal respect to the brave heroes of the Viet Cong. Sadly this invading imperialist child-murdering scumbag made it back home alive :(
but so many did not! they got what they rightly deserved :)
It was a basic Civil War.. Not having the right educated advisors in military and government too often leads to enormous tragic lives lost.Vietnam today is a blend of Communism and capitalism.Cruise ships go there and it’s a vacation destination.
Man, to know what you are going into in advance and still volunteer, that is bravery right there. Thanks to everyone who was over there and welcome home.
I've watched a lot of these. This gentleman is a total badddasss! An All-American. Thank you, Sir. May God bless you and your family.
What the hell, what a kind of a guy! There are some impressing interviews, but this is outstanding.
This great man had such a mature attitude going in. He used his head. Maybe his upbringing in Montana which is not like growing up in LA. You had to be tough and make decisions early in life. Such a hero.
You’ll prolly never see this, but you’re loved by the America sir.
Much respect sir, son of a Korean War Marine here - I know such pain - A true warrior perseveres yet fights the good fight throughout the journey - This warrior deserves to be honored and cared for no matter what - I wonder how Douglas is doing these days...
I've been service connected at 100% for PTSD for 10 years now.... my physical scars cannot compare to the mental or emotional scars. I adore this guy and every and anyone who's been in his situation.
Nothing, and i mean nothing like you have experienced...
medically retired trauma nurse...
The 1st 20 minutes of Saving Private Ryan, i nearly spewed in the movie theatre....
Because those scene brought back so many trauma victims id nursed, who suffered, and suddenly every awful scene and resuscitation id ever been part of came back at me full force...
I was so traumatised, i swear i could have downed a bottle of whisky and been stone cold sober...
The reason it affected me so badly, is because i had a broken neck, my own trauma, so i never got to "retire"....
PTSD isnt selective in who it bites....
I so hope you have full assistance to stay well...
Love, peace and blessings...
Very honorable man, its been great listening to his story
This is such a great series. These guys deserve to have their stories told, finally!! I could listen to this guy talk for days.
This man is the definition of patriot.
I was a Forward Observer for A company 1st 46th Infantry of the 198th Light Infantry Brigade. I enjoyed Mr Kims descriptions of his job. I was in the central highlands from October 1968 to May 1969. We got a helicopter in once a week and they never sent water out for us. We had to pick water up from rice paddies or rivers and streams so I drank a lot of agent orange.
After I had been in the field for 3 months I got a new RTO. He was a little skinny kid and he had trouble managing his ruck so the first day we were going to night lager on top of a mountain and I offered to carry his ruck with the radio. I figured I would have to have the radio when I got to the top and I knew he wouldn't get there when I did. When the RTO did get to the top he was mad as hell. I couldn't figure why he was so mad. He said lift my pack now lift yours. I did and my pack was noticeably heavier than his was even with the radio. He thought it was a dirty trick.
You know, and he didn’t really say it, but going over there and experiencing what he experienced gives you a whole new appreciation for how great this country really is, thank you for your service sir it means a lot.
He did say you know a lot
God bless you Doug, I hope all is well.
Poor guy. All that carnage and the only thing that really upsets him is how it went with his wife.
I love all of thes interviews. This guy is the best. We need more people like Douglas in this country. God bless you! Great man.
I'd do it again, I love this country, God bless you brother!
As I am listening the end of this video, came to one conclusion
Our country has mostly forgot about the vets , the only people who care are people like us in these amazing comments, thank u for your service, 6 years later I wish u well , these interviews are by far the best , great story 👍, I thank u for That
Thank you Mr. Kirn
Fantastic interview, incredibly interesting. Thanks for your service Mr Kirn!
My dad was in WWII and he told me that they would march long distances and he was so tired he would nod off while still walking and start to snore and wake himself up.
This guy is the most interesting and informative and fun guy of all the ones I've listened to.Just like going back to my time in and BS ing with another guy in there with me.Wonderful memories.
What a very nice down to earth man. Nothing he said glorified anything just speaks so honest. All you people that served in that war have my total respect.
I became interested in Vietnam, Korea and World War II due to my 10th grade history teacher Mr. Rivkin back in 79.
What a excellent teacher he was.
Thanks to all these vets for their stories. God Bless., and for the Billings Gazette the venue to have their stories told.
Thank you Montanan.
As a vet I am impressed by your perseverance. Thank you for talking to us.
The medical and mental care of vets is in need of great improvement, OR cut down on the number of vets with less combat.
It is said if a country cant look after there warriors what can they look after
You sir are a hero and a genuine honest cowboy.. I’m English I serves in Iraq Bosnia and Croatia. I have lived and retired in Vietnam since 2015 I live in a town on the coast called vung tau I’m sure you’ve heard of it, there are lots of Australian and American vets here, we work with orphanages and charities, once the covid is finished, it would be my honour to meet you and show you around.
Great interview 👍 thank you!
What a great human being!! They don't build them like that much anymore. Thank you for your service Sir!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲
Appreciate your efforts in presenting these outstanding interviews. This is our citizens that seem to embody all that I love about our country
Heck of a guy. Much respect.
Cheers from Casper Wyoming.
Blessings to all these souls that went through these experiences. These people should always be cared for. The families serve too.
We endure the absence and pain brought about by service. And sometimes they leave us too soon because of physical or psychological illness. Thank you service men and women....thank you!!
Gregory Todd Smith Love this persons story I served 4 years USAF 65- 69 438 MAH wasAt Clark PI 67-68. I always thought. About tthem and thought about how I was fortunate not to be in combat.
30, ooo canadians volunteered for the war in vietnam , and went.
Anne Liddle . and what benefit did Canada get ? That was a police action , not a declared war . It was a lost effort and no one learns from their mistaken genocide , just continue to glorify it even though 3.8 million people were murdered . NOT SMART but continues with brain dead ZOMBIE mentality .
I never understood why Canadians fought in that war. I am proud that they did. They deserve special thanks from the U.S.
Thank you for their support.!
@@sartainja yes sir they do. I wish I knew away to serve Vietnam veteran. Lost my dad to agent orange
It’s aboot time ta serve, eh?
“You have to pay a price to live in this country”
Your exactly right. And it makes me sick to see the way our ignorant population walks all over it.
Very true just ask president Trump, with four military exemptions. Wars are fought by the poor so the rich live a privileged life.
@@MrDwicker The taste of freedom can never truly be enjoyed by the civilian population.
@@robertdownes793 What important decision am I making?!?! That's just my opinion based on personal experiences and if you dont like it then keep scrolling.
B M it’s okay though, some people still have BALLS in this country, some of us are still MEN just let them do they’re job while you stay the fuck outta the way and be a titty baby your entire life 🤣🤣
@B M Would you rather wait and have to kill them here to preserve your way of life and your CONSTITUTIONAL right to freedom of speech against the presiding government and to be able to make comments like the one you just made?
If only we could hear the stories of those who died in war...
We're fortunate to at least have stories from the survivors.
if you listen , the silence is deafening . war glorification is the root cause of PTSD and young following the evil path . break the chains of ABUSE .
"If the dead could speak there would be no more war" Heinrich Böll
@@Dawgs241 Matthew 12:39-42 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
^39 Who answering said to them: An evil and adulterous generation seeketh a sign: and a sign shall not be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
^40 For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.
@@jesuschristislordoflordsan427 Amen. We live in a fallen world with war, sickness, hate, murder,..etc, however we are victorious through Jesus Christ and await His return. "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." (John 16:33). And when we experience suffering in this world we need not forget, "I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us". (Romans 8:18).
My dad wouldn't talk about it. Lost him New year's day to agent orange 2005. He was 54 and 5 forms of cancer
Ultimate respect, sir! Can't thank you enough. GOD BLESS!
God bless you sir, I'm sorry for the loss of your wife sir. Thank you, a million times....thank you.
I came across these interviews a few weeks ago. I think what your doing here is awesome. These guys stories are really interesting. I was born in 67 and I remember the Vietnam war on the TV every night as a young child. Luckily no one in my immediate family fought over there. That war has always fascinated me and listening to these guys real stories helps fill in all the blanks left by all the documentaries and movies on the subject. Keep up the good work.
dc has, me too, born in 63, my oldest brother just missed the draft, my dad was in Korea, I have watched so many of these, real men they are and they are slowly leaving us.
I was born 65 and I have 1 uncle that went. He will not talk about it. I spent most of my life wondering about the hell these people went through. These guys were tough as hell.
I was born in 60 i remember on the news they always had kia counts wia count. mia counts
Freedom ain't free....thanks for your service.
Such a genuine and real man. You have my respect
This is one the best of these interviews. And they are all good.
this interview is plum full of good moments
This guy is one cool dude.