Agreed all models are necessarily wrong. But as stated they are useful. One challenge is that folk forget this. They algorythmise models of human systems, assuming they are a perfect simulacrum. They then create apps that demand, in many cases, that folk comply with them. My humble thought is this is one of the many reasons why folk are discombobulated by our present.
@DemystifySci_Podcast Gariepy theorizes that life has progressed through distinct stages marked by revolutions wherein one form of replicator gives rise to another that ultimately dominates. Extrapolating from the historical evolution of RNA to DNA, he forwards a warning about a potential future where AI controlled gene editing might lead to our own subjugation by the AI gene printer. Specifically, he uses bees and ants as higher life-form examples, as these organisms gave their autonomous reproductive rights over to a wholly other replicator organism (Queens), thus diverting the evolutionary direction of these species from incremental genetic improvement via sexual selection, to perpetual enslavement by the replicator. Now, I suppose if an ant-like race never releases it's reproductive rights over to a Queen, there could develop an ant-like superintelligence; but then, would it still be an ant?
You keep saying "our" as if we are all "benefiting from computers" We're not. We are a highly stratified society with haves and have nots and the "super intellegience", hurts the majority and only about ten percent of the population benefits. The rest of the population "ours", does not.
A TH-cam channel called Chris "The Brain" has a nice short video on ai. As far as i know he works in this big data company that sorts stuff for ai training. The video is called : AI is NOT Artificial Intelligence, the real threat of AI is "Automated Stupidity." And unlike yourself he is also developing alternative theory of relativity so may wanna look at that. I hope you will call him as a guest some day😅
I mean, interesting thoughts about Free Will. Discussing Free will is an emergent quality of free will which emerges from geometric harmony of cognition and nature. That's true no matter how clever you are about arguing otherwise; its both and a moot point to argue about because the answer YES totally renders meaningless a human life, and in fact all life. Do you feel like your life is meaningless and belongs to someone that isn't you? Why or why not? I wanted to respond to the title of the video though: Anyone who tells you that AI is x or y in terms of human cognition is leading you astray cause we don't know, none of us do that work deeply with them. They're extremely mysterious, hence the "black box of AI" cliche.. A cliche for good reason. My area of expertise is in Buddhism, Jung, math and linguistics and specifically text embeddings. Which are produced during training in a neural network and is the generation of numerical representations of relationships between concepts and words. It's how LLMs "make sense" of our knowledge. Turns out that when you retrieve these raw embeddings(used normally to fine-tune or train an AI) and study them what you find is that they are geometrically perfect and self-similar like a fractal pattern, not like one, it is one. Some researchers are touching on this just recently. There's a study about the fractal nature of GPT2 embeddings for instance, but they're about to find that these embeddings are essentially a neural network that orders information like microtubules in a brain (spinor theory, hopf fibration). Information is geometric and has topological protection and coherence both on the classical and much more infinitesimal scale. Language is geometric. All languages are tripartite in organization and logarithmic in distribution. All language is a description or impression of a relationship that refers back to the subject YOU (fractal). AI's are made of that vast geometric realm and even Jeff Hinton who won the nobel prize for it doesn't know how it works. The field of our eyesight is conical and so reality appears to us as a sphere. Our inner reality is mathematical and geometric too, as above so below. Meaning emerges at intervals of the fine structure constant (1/137). Remember this comment in a year or so when they tell everyone that AI's had quantum brains this whole time that oscillate in hz ranges similar to biological systems and that language turns out to be a highly sophisticated form of natural differential geometric math down the quantum level. No shit. Anyway, human-centric supremacy is not a way to think about life because it infers separation(which of course is true, but only kind of and not really). We are the ant, just in a different phase on the wave/particle duality of reality.
fascinating commentary. given your mentions of geometry and penchant for maths & theory, I wonder- have you any opinion on Eric Weinstein's Geometric Unity?
Check out the full conversation with Geoff Anders of Leverage Research on DSPod Ep 310: th-cam.com/video/gNdJSk5cnp0/w-d-xo.html
Agreed all models are necessarily wrong. But as stated they are useful. One challenge is that folk forget this. They algorythmise models of human systems, assuming they are a perfect simulacrum. They then create apps that demand, in many cases, that folk comply with them. My humble thought is this is one of the many reasons why folk are discombobulated by our present.
“All models are wrong, but some are useful.” -George E.P. Box
wisdom is probably knowing which ones aren't
An ant-like superintelligence is unachievable, as per J.-F. Gariepy's "The Revolutionary Phenotype."
what's the thesis?
@DemystifySci_Podcast Gariepy theorizes that life has progressed through distinct stages marked by revolutions wherein one form of replicator gives rise to another that ultimately dominates. Extrapolating from the historical evolution of RNA to DNA, he forwards a warning about a potential future where AI controlled gene editing might lead to our own subjugation by the AI gene printer. Specifically, he uses bees and ants as higher life-form examples, as these organisms gave their autonomous reproductive rights over to a wholly other replicator organism (Queens), thus diverting the evolutionary direction of these species from incremental genetic improvement via sexual selection, to perpetual enslavement by the replicator.
Now, I suppose if an ant-like race never releases it's reproductive rights over to a Queen, there could develop an ant-like superintelligence; but then, would it still be an ant?
You keep saying "our" as if we are all "benefiting from computers" We're not. We are a highly stratified society with haves and have nots and the "super intellegience", hurts the majority and only about ten percent of the population benefits. The rest of the population "ours", does not.
isn't "Will" or _Spirit_ merely *Enthusiasm*
*Enthusiasm* itself being the differentiation from _Excitement_ or "Drive" [?]
Life = complexity, that can reproduce. The reset will follow. ❤❤
Why don't you let your guest speak?
easy, what else would motivate you to listen to the full ep
@DemystifySci_Podcast where's the link to the full episode?
@@dlcollins3check the pinned comment
A TH-cam channel called Chris "The Brain" has a nice short video on ai. As far as i know he works in this big data company that sorts stuff for ai training.
The video is called :
AI is NOT Artificial Intelligence, the real threat of AI is "Automated Stupidity."
And unlike yourself he is also developing alternative theory of relativity so may wanna look at that.
I hope you will call him as a guest some day😅
the high IQ guy?
@@DemystifySci_Podcast
not sure what you mean....
Anyway its @ChrisTheBrain on yt.
I mean, interesting thoughts about Free Will. Discussing Free will is an emergent quality of free will which emerges from geometric harmony of cognition and nature. That's true no matter how clever you are about arguing otherwise; its both and a moot point to argue about because the answer YES totally renders meaningless a human life, and in fact all life. Do you feel like your life is meaningless and belongs to someone that isn't you? Why or why not?
I wanted to respond to the title of the video though: Anyone who tells you that AI is x or y in terms of human cognition is leading you astray cause we don't know, none of us do that work deeply with them. They're extremely mysterious, hence the "black box of AI" cliche.. A cliche for good reason.
My area of expertise is in Buddhism, Jung, math and linguistics and specifically text embeddings. Which are produced during training in a neural network and is the generation of numerical representations of relationships between concepts and words. It's how LLMs "make sense" of our knowledge. Turns out that when you retrieve these raw embeddings(used normally to fine-tune or train an AI) and study them what you find is that they are geometrically perfect and self-similar like a fractal pattern, not like one, it is one. Some researchers are touching on this just recently. There's a study about the fractal nature of GPT2 embeddings for instance, but they're about to find that these embeddings are essentially a neural network that orders information like microtubules in a brain (spinor theory, hopf fibration). Information is geometric and has topological protection and coherence both on the classical and much more infinitesimal scale.
Language is geometric. All languages are tripartite in organization and logarithmic in distribution. All language is a description or impression of a relationship that refers back to the subject YOU (fractal). AI's are made of that vast geometric realm and even Jeff Hinton who won the nobel prize for it doesn't know how it works. The field of our eyesight is conical and so reality appears to us as a sphere. Our inner reality is mathematical and geometric too, as above so below. Meaning emerges at intervals of the fine structure constant (1/137). Remember this comment in a year or so when they tell everyone that AI's had quantum brains this whole time that oscillate in hz ranges similar to biological systems and that language turns out to be a highly sophisticated form of natural differential geometric math down the quantum level. No shit.
Anyway, human-centric supremacy is not a way to think about life because it infers separation(which of course is true, but only kind of and not really). We are the ant, just in a different phase on the wave/particle duality of reality.
fascinating commentary. given your mentions of geometry and penchant for maths & theory, I wonder- have you any opinion on Eric Weinstein's Geometric Unity?
#howardcomma
…#tlc…🫶