The HORRIFIC Executions Of The 40 German Soldiers Shot By The French Resistance
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- Still today there are many victims of war crimes that are undiscovered from the Second World War. Recently a French Resistance member spoke out about the executions of around 40 German soldiers and prisoners of war that occurred close to Le Vert. It's believed that many of these soldiers are still lying deep under the ground following their executions by gunshot at the hands of the French Resistance.
There are efforts that are about to begin to try and exhume the lost Germans who were executed. This story had gone to the graves with many members of the French Resistance who were the executioners. But amongst the executed Germans it's believed is a woman who was accused of collaborating with the Gestapo.
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This event happened a few days after the massacres of hundreds of civilians by the SS in Oradour sur glane and Tulle. The resistance is constantly on the move, they have no infrastructure to keep prisoners. If they release the German soldiers, the German troops will return, hunt them down and take revenge on the surrounding civilians. It is a crime from the legal point of view, but the circumstances of this war did not give the resistants any other choice.
Right...
Americans, British, Canadians troops also executed German prisoners of war on D-Day or just in the aftermath of D-Day.
still it a war crime... that its
I thank God each and every day for Not having to go to war in this lifetime
We've fought two major wars in our lifetime, and Americans are fighting in both Syria and Africe. There is a major war in Europe right now, a civil war in Myanmar, a civil war in Sudan, Saudi and Iranian intervention in Yemen and about twenty more low intensity conflicts around the globe.
The entire world is at war right now. Every continent has fighting on it.
Amen!
Still is today just that if it's far enough away from somewhere geographically, no one cares
God is for nothing.
As irregulars French resistance were exicuted. And they did not take prisoners.
The voice of reasoning- finally.
A veteran from the Régiment de la Chaudière told to one of my friends once that many German soldiers were guys no better or worse than him. He even had sympathy for some of them, but he made it clear that there was a big difference between the way soldiers of the Wehrmacht were treated, versus soldiers of the SS.
I don’t blame that old man for keeping it in. There are some things that are so horrific, it’s unspeakable.
Most people have never been to war and really don't know how horrific it can be.
@@coobay4786 you are absolutely right. I always bring this subject up when someone complains of our current state of affairs. Who knows what happens to the human psyche when you’re forced into survival mode. I would say that would be the majority of what everyone went through during the war.
@@irishsakura1 agree
He was nothing but a Coward for shooting unarmed men.
@@bennyboogenheimer4553 they weren’t men, they were nazis.
Does not surprise me nor will i cry any tears for those dead. The French Resistance was formed to resist and remove the Germans from their country. They did not fight under the rules of war. After what the Germans did to the French, I understand why they did what they did. In the balance of good and evil, the resistance was brutal, but they were fighting for the very existence of their country against a evil that was so far beyond anything they did. I hope the old man finds peace and can rest easy, but as for me, Nothing that happened to the German occupiers will make me shed a single tear.
The same could be said of any occupation including the Native Americans in the United States or any nation in the Americas.
Amazing how everyone is a witness, but no one is ever a participant. 😮
My Dad was there and dished it out. He also narrowly missed getting it but was injured. He went back to battle after he was healed and declared fit. He saw a lot.
Like every Opa was a driver, cook, accountant, translator, medic etc, etc. From those stories it's hard to believe the Germans had any actual combat troops. For the truth all you have to do is look at the endless list of war crimes, atrocities and crimes against humanity they perpetrated.
The famous German war crime in Oradur sur Glane was the revenge for this execution. This unknown fact makes it so remarkable
You are grossly wrong .First , the massacre of 643 civilians at Oradour sur Glane on 10 June by the 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich was INFAMOUS. second, that was the day after the same Panzer unit murdered 99 civilians in Tulle on 08 June. There is NO issue that Oradour was in revenge for the killings of German prisoners by Edmund Reveil's Resistance group. That occurred at Meymac on 12 June. Get your facts correct
@@tonymercer7759 yes, of course it was "officially" dated a couple of days later in order to let it shine as if it was the revenge for oradour.
Oradour n'a pas vengé Tulle, et les Allemands n'ont pas su que les prisonniers allemands ont ete tues.Cela n'a rien avoir.
Olaf is referring to the execution of Helmut Kämpfe, Das Reich officer burned in the ambulance and found just outside of Oradur
the French Resistance fighters* (''Francs-tireurs", French for "free shooters") were unlawful combatants and were not protected by the Geneva Conventions. (* guerrilla fighters who operate outside the laws of war).
After World War II, during the Hostages Trial, the seventh of the Nuremberg Trials, the tribunal found that, on the question of partisans, according to the then-current laws of war, the partisan fighters could not be considered lawful belligerents under Article 1 of the Hague Convention.
In relation to Wilhelm List, the tribunal stated:
We are obliged to hold that such guerrillas were francs tireurs who, upon capture, could be subjected to the death penalty. Consequently, no criminal responsibility attaches to the defendant List because of the execution of captured partisans
Which then alternatively follows that there is no problem with them killing enemy combatants.
Now it is something else if the soldiers were taken prisoner *and* the resistance had an easy, risk free, possibility to hand them over to another army.
The German army mostly only operating outside the law of war.
Not only the SS but also Wehrmacht units where guilty of war crimes against soldiers and civilians.
Very often Resistance fighters where tortured before they where shot.
These basterds only got what they deserved.
Vive la France
Thank you for your videos
It's childish to expect people to care for law ritual when they're invaded by foreigners. Law is a civic ritual, an administrative convenience. OTOH control of one's nation and property is a natural right to be defended with any level of violence.
The myth that The Wermacht wasn't responsible for all of the civilian deaths in WW2 has been thoroughly disputed.
Rough justice for sure but justice this the same.
It wasn’t “the Wehrmacht” that was executed, that’s the problem. It was individual soldiers, none of which was given a fair trial. A drop in the ocean of atrocities of the war, but still an atrocity.
@@baxtrom I dont try to justifey the guild of every german ww2 crime . Follow the history of former SS Leader Joachim Peiper who got killed 30 Years after ww2 living in france .... and who got blamed & judged for this crime in peacetimes !
Mais c une monstruosité ce que vois dites là !! Vous êtes du côté des monstres?⁉️😱🤮
@@heitzmannpatrice4315 Enlisted on 24.02.2022 What you are ; a special operation supporter?
@@wolfgangemmerich7552 Told you once that revenge is a dish best served cold. 🤔
My Father served in the U.S. 12th armored division in France and Germany during WW2. Several Free French Army divisions fought in their area and supposedly quite often executed German soldiers who surrendered or were captured.,.especially SS troops. Many of the French troops were from French colonies in North Africa and the Germans didn't want to surrender to them anymore than they did to the Russians....as the French colonials liked to slice off and dry German ears as souvenirs...that is if they didn't shoot them outright. War is hell....and it must be said that the Germans dished out plenty of hell...as did their enemies.
Actually, all German soldiers looted, raped, and abused the residents of the countries they invaded. They made sport out of torture and indeed had special pain for Jews and Romas. Poland and Russia were especially targeted by the Germans. No pity on them and no sugarcoating their actions. Too few were punished and most soldiers should have been executed.
"war is hell"...but justified by winners and the people who makes these videos
@ALAIN TERRIEUR The resistance burned alive soldiers in ambulances. The "resistance" were civilians and did not follow the Geneva convention.
Most soldiers from Canada-US England_Etc executed soldiers from the SS. This info came out in the 60-70s etc Also if the Soldiers KNEW they were fighting an SS Squad-Battalion the Allied soldiers did not take prisoners.They shot them. This also came from what SS were left after the war compared to the Werhmacht ordinary Army. This is the way it was as the SS killed thousand of soldiers who surrendered from all Allied armies!! The Captured German soldiers were always checked for TATTOOED Blood types on their arms as this signified Waffen SS so they were segregated from the Main regular German prisoner's. This is now what PUTIN is allowing with the WAGNOR SS in Ukraine. So these POS and this Attitude has always prevailed even to today!! We never Learn!!!
@@KP-oe8sk SS - were - not - soldiers.
*I read that it was 3-years before the first German Occupation Soldier was shot and killed in Paris, that their being posted to France was a dream posting for German Troops, and the French Resitance movement was mostly a myth, and every major French Company was supplying Germany with goods, weapons or vehicles, with French Coal exports to Germany the number 1 export. In French restaurants, there were signs stating 'German spoken here'! After Germany's heavy defeat at Kursk and Stalingrad, Russia, the French nation along with other European countries guessed Germany would lose the war, so a down-switch in attitude and politics occurred. By the end of 1944, everyone was claiming they were in the French resistance?. Little known facts: In December 1942, the German Population en-masse knew the war was lost when the USA entered the war. The defeats in Russia resulted in French manufacturers stopped supplying goods ON CREDIT TO GERMANY, French manufacturers insisted on CASH UPFRONT WITH ORDER in case Germany lost the war, this demand resulted in increased persecution of the Jews so their property, cash and gold assets could be stolen and plundered. Fact: Germany's leading bank was accepting GOLD TEETH and Jewish wedding rings, as bank security for Nazi Govt Bank loans. Fact: Hitler filled two caves with Jewish assets including valuable paintings for the then-dream-state Hitler Art Museum in Linz, Austria. Nelsons Column in London was to be dismantled and re-erected in Linz. Fact: Hitler robbed two German Bank note printers so he could pay his SA Brownshirts wages, travel, and expenses bills. Fact: Russia Won the War, and they deserve the highest praise.*
A very long list of misconceptions...
@@phlm9038 *Misconceptions about French resistance fighters? Why and How, every major French company was fighting to supply the Germans with goods, in restaurant windows they had signs saying German Spoken Here! The war had stopped for France which I think was a great for French Citizens, it saved lives and that is what mattered. The French Police worked with the Germans and went around arresting Jews for them, the same in Holland, Anne Frank was arrested by Dutch Police, Marshall Petain policy was common-sense and of great value, when it became obvious Germany was going to lose the war then matters changed. France reasserted itself, but this fooled no one, Please answer this post in depth, not a one-line reply.*
Absolutely a good point about the french and explaining there actual position and views of ths German occupation and it's initial lack of any real resistance to stand up against there invaders. The true resistance and most determined underground forces that never collaborated with the germans(like the french absolutely did) was the Polish underground resistance. They had the biggest & longest uprising against the Germans and were totally dedicated to there cause from the get go. The french resistance was so overrated and a total farce. They pretty much appeased whoever was the most dominant force at that time and pretty much bowed down to the Germans when they first occupied there land. Most definitely did collaborate with the germans when the germans were sweeping through europe and winning the war. Obviously they started switching there alliance when the Germans started suffering more and more defeats. They don't and shouldn't ever be compared to the polish people and there alliance.
Не Россия , Советский Союз победила Германию. США вступили в войну 8 декабря 1941 г.
My Father was a 15 year old kid in Brest France on D-Day when the French resistance became very active. My Father went to work for them as a runner and was with them at the end when the Germans surrendered. He witnessed the executions of several SS soldiers as the SS committed horrible acts against resistance members they caught and their family members. It was Pay back. However they left the Wehrmacht alone as according to my father they were young kids who were as scared of the SS as the French.
Puisque vous êtes français, je me permets de vous mentionner une anecdote comique concernant un soldat canadien français qui venait tout juste de débarquer en Normandie, le 6 juin, et un Français. Le Français a posé une question au soldat (je ne me souviens plus quoi exactement) mais je n'ai pas oublié la réponse du soldat : "P't'être ben que oui, p't'être ben que non..." Le Français est demeuré surpris d'entendre un soldat allié lui répondre avec une expression courante de son langage!!! Les deux ont ri un bon coup!
C'est une expression encore utilisée de nos jours, au Québec, et elle a été préservée durant des siècles, parce que la plupart des ancêtres des Canadiens français venaient du Nord de la France.
@@PABeaulieu C'est ce qui s'appelle un réponse de Normand :)
Its natural that the resistance would want to commit some atrocities of their own against the murdering SS. They only got what was coming to them. You cannot examine for people who saw you slaughter their friends and families to treat you nicely
For all the back and forth murdering on both sides for anyone to sit back and call this a crime against humanity is laughable at best. The German soldiers should be treated with a degree of respect (simply because they are dead) if their remains are found they should be moved to a final resting place but to label the French resistance members actions as crimes against humanity is just simply silly at this point and time. Least we do not forget who started the war and how many French citizens were lined up almost on a daily basis and shot dead in public for all to see.
The horrific killings of civilians by the Germans.
War can make ANYONE into a monster, a man has to be aware of his limitations. I am grateful that I avoided war and avoided becoming a monster, thank you God
Not all soldiers were SS, they might be conscripts. Often I am told by the remaining people who knew those times here in La Charente, that the resistance were as bad as the whermacht in comandeering horses, carts and things to eat. Often pairs of German soldiers were sent to scavenge. One day at chez Bouhet, Saint Sulpice de Ruffec two germans were shot by the resistance whilst scavaging. They were buried in the forest and later dug up after the war, the hole is still visible and they were sent home.
In the house of a man who says his father was in the resistance, at chez Bouhet, it was during work on the roof that a Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 was found. This might be the lethal weapon.
We must remember all these young men did not all chose this destiny, my cousin a bomb aimer in a Lancaster used to say," we're off tomorrow to put some salt on hitler's tail" he did it for 6 months, Berlin every week, then after D Day it was France to stop the reinforcement of Normandy, He lies here now. As shall I.
But remember the families that are casualties of war on both sides. Even Germans.
@@ChadwickTheChad If you served, you would know, you have to do as you are told as serving airman/sailor/soldier. The Germans were welcomed into France!
@@JohnSmith-ei2pz ...AW, GIVE IT UP!!! YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ANYBODY- ALL YOU'RE DOING IS EMBARRASSING YOURSELF ON THE INTERNET!!!
@@ChadwickTheChad ...YOU SUMMED IT UP PRETTY WELL-(!)
Even Germans. Oh thank you, thank you. 🥺
Your comparison about the French Resistence being as bad as the Nazi's is myopic and naive. The Germans murdered MILLIONS of innocent people -- the French Resistence murdred soldiers. That doesn't make the two equivalent.
should do a story on this How the Cossacks Were Betrayed by Britain in World War II
Was this before or after they participated in the murdering of jews in ukraine?
no..this is a channel to tell porkies about the honorableG army and its people
There was in excess of 100,000 Russians who fought WITH the Germans against Communism in Russia. Post War thousands and thousands of survivors were camped in the Drau Valley of Austria under British Army administration. They were Voluntarily disarmed and camped there. Some even had their families with them. They lived peacefully.
Then the order came BECAUSE OF THE YALTA CONFERENCE all soldiers must be returned to their own country. British Soldiers had to force mostly men at bayonet point on to goods wagons of trains. Russians were committing suicide, stabbing themselves etc: British Soldiers guarded the trains AND once inside the Russian sector - roughly Linz to Vienna they heard the machine guns start firing. Officers and Sergeants were shot - remainder to Gulags in Siberia.
( Source - an elderly gentleman built my garage extension and HE was one of those Brits. He said it was terrible and caused nightmares)
Some of this is on film - Russians disarming, but not the trains.
You may remember a James Bond film with a tank chase. Bond says about the Russian General -'You can't trust him, he's a Drau Cossack!'
@@von-Adler good post...the version of hist that the she pul1 are fed is mostly just war timePG
@@von-Adler You can find the whole history by surching for : Lienzer cossaks.
The Germans almost never took prisoners, the resisters were systematically shot. The resisters did the same thing, especially since they were always moving and didn’t have the structure to keep prisoners.
Shocking but perfectly understandable
I am Polish and I am interested in history as a hobby. Poland, as a country lying between two great enemies, Germany and Russia, lost the most citizens after Russia. We have to start from September 1, when the Germans attacked Poland, and on September 17, Russia attacked us from the east as part of the secret Ribentrop-Molotov pact. For a long time, Russia supported Germany with raw materials and areas for training units because the Treaty of Versailles prohibited it in Germany. There is a saying that a good German is a dead German or a good Russian is a dead Russian. What the Germans and Russians did is hard to describe only as horror and extermination. Not only Germany should answer at Nuremberg, but Russia too. You write "Horrific" because the partisans shot 40 Germans and the Russians shot over 20,000 Polish prisoners of war (soldiers, policemen, teachers, etc.) in Katyn. I don't understand your merciful attitude, haven't you been killed enough? Not enough suffering? Of course, you did not want a repeat of the Somme, but this policy of concessions led to the outbreak of World War II. Your and our tragedy. You feel sorry for the enemy who murdered you. This is a tragedy.
Полякам не верили немцы ,не верили русские...это о чём то говорит о поляках,как о нации...
ой 🫢 ... поляки жалуются на русских 🙆♂️ ... сами такие благородные, белые и пушистые 🤪
Really excellent and well-documented video. Bravo!
I'm going to sound very pedantic but if the name of the witness is spelt Reveil then it would be pronounced re-vay and not re-vay-el
A little more background needs to be added to give a more accurate perspective to this video.In April 1944.
in response to Maquis activities in the Tulle area German security (SD) units systematically swept the region during April 1944. They arrested 3000 in the village of Lonzac, 17 inhabitants were slaughtered and 24 houses burned; in Brive, 300 were arrested and deported to work camps in Germany. The operations against the Resistance were responsible for 1,500 arrests, 55 shootings, 128 crimes or offenses in 92 localities and 200 Jews assassinated, but with no direct confrontation with the Maquis. The crackdown helps explain the operations in Tulle in early June by the Resistance who hoped to end the sufferingofthe civlian population. The Germans were forced to leave leaving 37 dead, 25 wounded and 35 missing.
Early on 8 June the infamous 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich, which had also committed atrrocities against ciivilians in Russia and the Balkans, entered Tulle and surprised the Maquis who fled ino the surrounding country side. On taking over Tulle the SS troops selected at random 120 local civilians to be committed to public hanging. For an unknown reason the number hanged stopped at 99. The SS unit that committed the massacre in Tulle went on to wipe out the small French town of Oradour sur Glane was . The Resistance group of which Edmond Reveil was a member would have known of the events in Tulle and Oradour.
BTW, the last defenders of Hitlers Reichskanzlei and the Reichstag, were French SS Troops.
,, Legion Charlemagne" ! Every by the germans occupeyed country had its own SS Volunteers divison!
@@wolfgangemmerich7552 Maybe you know the story of the soldiers of the Division Charlemagne, made prisoners by the Americans and handed over to General Leclerc, commander of the 2nd Armoured Division (Free French Army) which landed in Normandy begin of August 1944 under High Command of General Patton.
General Leclerc to the prisoners : Aren't you ashamed to wear a German uniform ?
One of the SS Charlemagne : And you, aren't you ashamed to wear an American uniform.
General Leclerc to one of his men : Get rid of them.
I don't know whether he meant to execute them, but it is what happened. A few years after the war, General Leclerc died in a plane crash on his way to Alger. Back then rumours circulated that the plane had been sabotaged by a family member of one of the Charlemagne soldiers. It has never been proved, but if it was the case, this in another example that revenge is a dish best served cold.
I could do with a feelgood video today. Thnx
Regarding the Helmuth Kempfe incident. I read that there were four SS officers locked inside their own staff car and then the Maquis set it alight. This was the catalyst which angered the Germans and led to the subsequent atrocities in the village.
The Germans needed no Catalyst to be brutal beyond belief. Specifically the SS. This is why I have repeatedly restated my Uncles opinion, "every man and woman that wore the SS Uniform should have been executed without mercy." Understand he was a Tanker fighting across Europe and saw the "Work" of the SS first hand.
Chances are that if those Maquis members had not decided to imollate those German officers there most probably would not have been the vicious backlash against the people in that unfortunate village. Same with the village of Lidice, which was burned to the ground after most of its young men and adult men were placed against walls and executed in retribution for the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich in Prague. No assassination = no retribution.
One is a product of the other.
The Israelis take a similar stance. Remember that after the kidnap of the three Israeli teens, Israel commenced Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank. Israel killed 9 Palestinians and raided 1300 properties including commercial and residential buildings. 800 Palestinians were arrested without charge or trial.
A heavy handed response by a heavy handed regime.
Even the German army was responsible for murder torture and evil unlike the Allies other than for warfare
@@biggseyeDich hätte man auch ausschalten müssen.
@@peterschulz4115based
Under the same circumstances I would have done the same. Please pronounce the French place names more clearly. Thank you.
Great book for anyone interested in ww2.. the forgotten soldier by Guy Sajer.
Read it. Great book indeed.
Yup read it
It's a very good book, but not an actual true story (proven by many historians). It's basically a fictitious re-creation of what things might have been like in the East. It's good though.
@user-cg6xi7rh8k
E.L. Kennedy, Lieutenant Colonel in the US Army, found five errors or impossibilities in Guy Sajer’s story. Small details such as the wrong place of the badge Grossdeutschland on the soldiers sleeve, the wrong number of his battalion, the wrong caliber of some ammunition, aso.
Some say the story is too detailed to be real as it is not possible to remember so many things.
Another colonel in the US army, Doug Nash, didn’t agree with E.L. Kennedy and was convinced Guy Sajer’s story was real.
Guy Sajer’s real name was Guy Mouminoux. He was born in Paris from a French father and a German mother. They were living in the region Alsace when it was annexed to the Reich by Hitler. Like many other young Alsatians, Guy was incorporated into the German Army.
He changed his name when he wrote the book and took his mother’s name as he wished to stay anonymous.
He worked as a comics writer after the war, under another name, Dimitri.
He said he visited once his war friend Dieter Halls in the United States where this latter lived after the war.
He passed in January 2022.
@@phlm9038 I've seen it discredited beyond what you have cited by credible historians. It's very authentic, generally follows the actual historical events correctly, and don't doubt that Mouminoux drew on his own direct experiences for the book which makes it so real and worthy of a read - because parts are probably very true. The story overall (i.e. as a whole) is fiction though, but it absolutely gives the reader an incredible view into what the fighting in the East might have been like. Somewhat similar (not exactly, but somewhat) to Das Boot which was written based on a person's specific war time sub experiences, but as a whole, Das Boot is still fiction despite being incredibly realistic and detailed through most of the book.
Nevertheless, I think we are in agreement that is an excellent book and worth reading (even as a historical reference)!
Can't pass judgement on the french..they were in invaded. Put yourself in their position.
My father told me as a boy how he was starving and went to SS mountain unit and they fed him and deloused him.
The days before Italian surrender he went to nearby village following Italian army trucks from distance. They loaded up 300 elderly men women and children and drove up mountains and they were forced into small groups and tied rocks to each other. One group pushed other into deep lake till all gone.
The the day of the Italian surrender he skipped school to go fishing. A SS lorry driver taking supplies to forward base stopped and told him to jump in. The two dropped off supplies and were returning to Brigade HQ when he saw two drunken Italian soldiers raping a young girl. The driver stopped alighted and told them to stop in Italian. They refused grabbed their guns and the German killed both. All three got in truck and major at base sent girl to German hospital and lorry driver was ordered to drop my father of at school.
Shortly there after drunken Italian soldiers approached and shot up school. One threw a hand grenade in his classroom and he placed forearm on face. Most of others were blinded by the grenade. Some of girls aged about ten were dragged off screaming.
My father ran to the SS regiment HQ and the German SS attended and captured and hung the Italian soldiers for raping them and then took the girls back to base hospital.
My father stated he was terrified of the Italian soldiers and everyone hid the young women from their view.
So maybe others have a different opinion of the martial character of the SS soldiers.
Hold it.
You are saying that Italian soldiers raped and killed Italian civilians?
Your father lied.
To burn women and children in the house of god... Will Always Be Told
the real story is that the church was full of hidden weapons and explosives and was detonated by a stray bullet..but this version of events keeps the she pull happy
Allied bombing of France 6644 how many French civilians killed ??
@@Eric-kn4yn One US generals own words while visiting the town remains after alliied bombing: Dear god , we liberated this population to death.
@@WillyEckaslike Not so.
@@tonymercer7759 not so if u believe the msm
My Grandfather said that when the Army went into some of the concentration camps it wasn't unheard of for the soldiers to let the prisoners beat the shit out of the Nazi guards. He said he saw one guy beat the Nazi with a brick until his brain fell out on the ground. Revenge was sweet I'm sure.
Dziekuje
I talk to a WW2 major name Myron Green. He was at the liberation of Dachau Concentration camp. He said American soldiers would be talking to a German guard & inmates would walk up & bash the Germans head in with a pipe. He said they just watched, then said the Germans deserved it. Myron was 93 when I met him. He said he was already in the Army before Pearl Harbor.
Here say! Not provable in court!
@JohnSmith-ei2pz what? Who? Where? I don't know what anyone is talking about. 😅
@@JohnSmith-ei2pzwhat court? 😅
Late in his life I asked my dad about killing German prisoners. He only said after a bit that if you took a prisoner it was your responsibility to guard them until you could turn them over to MPs, and they avoided coming near the frontlines. So you could guard a prisoner or you could sleep, and "you were always so tired." He said whenever possible they would give the prisoners over to the local French to do the executions, because "they enjoyed it." He never liked the French as a people.
But he liked the Americans right. Americans were so nice and good with those German criminals but brutal with black American soldiers who fought for their country. While America was protecting and giving money to the enemies black American soldiers were dying in the streets cause they didn't have money nor could enter the hospitals as they were "WHITE ONLY". So who are the real cruel and hypocrites here?
found some are shoackers when ahh was bumming around france in my past
I worked with a guy I think from Iran but grew up in France. I really hated working with they guy. If the French were anything like him I wouldn't like the French either.
@@rockpadstudios met up with a gypsy lady from britain here in auckland city and pronto she knew my moms ancestors were the French royal family, and her large dark body started violently shacking as she spiritly picked upp the violence in their history- moms royal family- frogs. the gypsy lady was good as ahh made out to her ahh was full blooded 100% Irish- Sean O'Dwyer. knew the free readi was comein as a Royal supernatural event happen too me in 29th Sept 2009 at the king david and queen victoria statues in sydney city.
@@seanodwyer4322 Fantanyl is bad for you
So guys you finally discovered that between Dynamo and Overlord germans committed atrocities in France which drew some hatred and revenge to them, oulala!
Thanks TUP x
We must never ever let this happen again.
It ´s happens in this moment.
Tell that to the germans they started two world wars
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
It has happened already in Rwanda, Yugoslavia and Cambodia
Why do you say horrific they absolutely butchered many civilians.
wrongs dont make 1 right
It was horrible and horrific because rather than German people smelling like sourkraut. They French had to now deal with the smell of sourkraut and death.
@@renearnaudo8259a wrong is corrected with a right.
Best you get with the program.
@renearnaudo8259 Yes, it does. There are consequences for all wrongs.
@@renearnaudo8259maybe not but karma is a bitch
There is no war without excess.
all wars are bankers wars
War truly is Hell, and atrocities were committed by all sides for many reasons.
To judge what happened during those days would be to judge the past, to judge history. Ultimately, everyone must come to accept that we commit sins. The key is to be in peace with God - if you are a believer, and with yourself.
Also thousands of German soldiers executed by Yugoslav partisans.
It was the way of war.
The German crimes in Yugoslavia were much greater than those in Western Europe, maybe only those in the USSR and Poland still had correspondence, also in Greece they behaved the same way!
@@MrQ454 The winner writes history.
@MrQ454
Indeed. The massacre of thousands of Serbian schoolboys and their teachers at Kragujevac in 1941 is but one example.
For idiots which cry for Germans soldiers! ”The number of hostages to be shot was calculated as a ratio of 100 hostages executed for every German soldier killed and 50 hostages executed for every German soldier wounded, a formula devised by Adolf Hitler with the intent of suppressing anti-Nazi resistance in Eastern Europe.”-that's a good explanations for the hate against the Germans?! With mention that hostages would mean any civilians the Germans caught in their raids!
@@MrCSRT8 So its time to you to tell about the yugoslav SS division ,, Handschar" and his actions against its own fellow citizens. Very similar to the serbians actions aginst its own fellow citizens during the balkan war.
Interesting information on this channel,the information is repeated to many times .we heard it the first time .
I was wondering who would be covering this first.
Please cover “Graignes massacre” in which the German forces brutally bayoneted and shot surrendered US paratroopers that begged for mercy.
Very very good but only 30%understood because of the dialect of the speaker 🔇🔇🔇
War is so ugly. People’s minds are under great stress.
Tell me about it
Many friendships developed between the Allied soldiers and the German soldiers that come from the heart.
And lasted a lifetime. Thank you for these soldiers, exemplary 🙏
@@user-sc3ts6lf8r Excuse me. There are contemporary witnesses and soldiers in America, England and also in Germany, even visible on TH-cam, who confirm my comment.
@@user-sc3ts6lf8r Yes you are right.
Unfortunately, friendships that come from the heart are rare.
Because most soldiers only recognize the suffering later or not at all.
@@martinwow7475many British and American soldiers realise they were lied to and brainwashed to fight an unjust war of aggression against Germany.
I feel very sad for the allied war veterans who know the truth of the war and have lived to see present day Britain and America.
They must feel soo guilty and let down it’s heartbreaking 💔
But the German people are kind and forgive the British and Americans as they did not know what they were doing
@@punishedgloyperstormtroope8098 Thank you, it's a good historical acknowledgment of the truth.
@@martinwow7475 yeah we can’t really blame anyone on either side of the war with the exception of people who were unnecessarily cruel and so on compared to other soldiers in their army.
Since if you were British in 1940 there was no internet only books and radio so all the information the common man had was allied war propaganda encouraging war and opposing peace.
The only way to hear the German side of the story was to listen to illegal radio broadcasts from Germany like lord hawhaw but people had been brainwashed to not question there beliefs so they weren’t able to critically analyse the German side.
Propaganda is incredibly powerful and everyone is influenced by it.
Everyone is controllable and the government can make the population believe whatever it likes no matter how insane.
That’s one of the reasons democracy isn’t flawed and counter intuitive because by expanding suffrage from intelligent people or the elites like Ancient Greek democracy and instead expanding suffrage to anyone over 18 it causes the majority of voters to not be critically thinking and thus the media can decide who wins elections as they only need to convince 51% of the most gullible members of the population in order to win and election, and it makes it impossible for dissidents to win elections.
So democracy is merely a veil for a plutocratic autocratic dictatorship run by the media billionaires elites etc.
At least under a dictatorship like in Italy Germany Iraq and so on you know exactly who rules you, and he has accountability while under democracy it’s just shadowy elites who are private in the shadows
I am German and I don't feel anger listening to this. I just want to hear people to admit that there were numerous war crimes also committed against German soldiers. Most of these soldiers were conscripts, not party members or hard core Nazis. Every war death should be honored.
Yes, but the "war crimes" committed against Germans were rarely sanctioned by officers.
@@garyduncan450 right. But at least now they admit to it.
Right, right 👍 @@arnereykowski1985
The growth of the resistance groups accelerated when Vichy imposed the Obligatory Work System to young male, that should work in miserable conditions in Germany.
If it were a 98 year old German soldier, he be prosecuted for war crimes. But French? He's a hero? Soviet? So what. But German? Prosecute him no matter the age.
winners make the rules. deal with it, you wannabe.
Yeah, cry me a river. Next time, don't invade other countries.
at last someone with critical thinking speaks out
What? Are you insane? 99% of the German populace who committed atrocities toward the Jews never paid for their crimes. 99% of the soldiers who committed atrocities never paid. Why? Americans protected them.
Germans should have won then, better yet never started the war
An eye for an eye.
only if u believe the oficial allied version...has the last 3 years taught u nothing?
Ahh..but it does not make it RIGHT does it? It only makes one as bad as the other. Do not forget..the rhetoric was that the Allies came for the better good..not to BE like the Nazis..so that dispels your comment somewhat
@@WillyEckaslike last year's should have taught you that when ennemies grab your land and kill civilians, you'd better kill as many as you can until they leave.
Why were SO FEW French part of the French Resistance? From what I read, only 1-3% of the population was part of the "organized resistance."
1 000 000 french résistants
And after the war everybody claimed to be in the 'resistance' - the Fwench are such comedians! 🤣🤣🤣
@@aldosigmann419 most resistants never told what they did... I learned about the actions of my grand parents after their death. Now they were lots of last minute resistants, true
They didn't want end up dead once the Germans occupied france any resistance caught would be turned over to the gestapo for interrogation or pretty much torture then either get excuted or sent to a concentration camp to be worked to death, lightly armed resistance against combat troops with whatever weapon needed to get the job done is a huge risk anyone caught helping the resistance would suffer the same fate as resistance , the Germans especially the SS had no mercy word went around quick what will happen if you resist so they just delt with it even so alot of people did help the resistance as the war went on the resistance grew because British and American were able to start getting weapons smuggle into the country , I think that probably the biggest hurdle unlike like here in America were large part of the population are armed like we are and have easy access to get them one reason why the 2nd amendment is important here why we are will not give our guns up to anyone , so weapon and training people how to use them how to fight back against the the Germans
@alainterrieur5915 who gives a shi.... about your BS dude
I served in the U.S. Navy from 1970 ---'75 as a Combat Engineer. Have no problem with reporting for duty in a Firing Squad.
Some people just like killing.
@@user-kf8lc7ps1c I'd like to see you in a war zone.
@@dianamarquez4774 I'd like to see you in a war zone.
Nothing to do with this podcast but looking at these German tanks, but if I’d been a in ww2 I’d still would’ve felt safer in one of Germanys tanks than anything the Allie’s had. I’m not saying I’d have liked to have been a Nazi. I know they got knocked out to but I think my survivor % might have been a little better. My dad dropped a grenade in a open hatch on a German tank after it.blew his buddy in 1/2. The one thing he mentioned from time to time after a few beers. He didn’t talk bravado just mourning his best friend. R.I.P Dad, you and Christian are together again
I agree. The German tanks were superior tanks.
Partisan wars are mercyless : torture, arbitrary executions, brutality against civilians, hostages detention and execution....The nazis declared they would consider the free french not as allied soldiers but as "Terroristen", a term allowing their immediate killing. De Gaule answered that if the german would do so, the german soldier would no more be considered as prisonner of war. It stopped Hitler's intention . Here, where i live, near the Vercors plateau there are dozens of massacre places : town places, woods, villages or road sides. A corpse has been found with three others killed by the germans. He was still wearing his tennis suit, we don't know his identity. A kid found his fathers gun, he wanted to make a resistance act. He killed a german soldier, a poor bavarian peasant guarding a building. Ten hostages were executed in retaliation . Partisan war is a spiral of terror, of murder calling murder . It is impossible for us today in our comfort of well fed moralists to conceive the violence of this period . We are not allowed to care any judgement.
The resistance gave just as much as they received. You'll get no tears from many for the Germans. None. Many innocent and guilty victims parished at the hands of each side.
The late and highly decorated resistance fighter, Nancy Wake. in the first editions of her memoirs "The White Mouse" recounted that sometimes the French Resistance fighters would capture German nurses and rape them until they died....in one instance, she had an opportunity to execute one of the unfortunate women to put her out of her misery. In later abridged editions these events were edited out.
They were also invaders. I feel no simpathy for none of them.
At the same time, you had this French nurse, Odette Malossane, who treated German soldiers burnt after the derailment of their train by the resistance. Her uncle was in the resistance, so was she.
Nancy Wake, the one who said : "I killed many Germans during the war, I regret not to have killed more."
So hard to believe all this happened not 80 years ago.
Oh! How different the Victor Acts after defeating their enemy! A war crime is a war crime! No matter how you slice it!
those were the worst of times, and those were the worst of times
France was collaborating with the Germans throughout the war, the Vichy French being the most extreme example, the fact they couldn’t shoot the collaborator, sums them up ....
What a pile of crap. Always the same boring ignorant comments. Many more Jews were deported from smaller countries. 105000 from the Netherlands, the almost antire Jewish population, 450000 from Hungary, 340000 from Romania, 228000 from Baltic states, etc...Not even 90000 from France. And what about the many French deported, or even shot, for hiding Jews ? Average folks and some rotten politicians are 2 different things, you know. Most basic French citizens were rather interested in finding something to eat and survive.
In case you didn't know, after 1941 De Gaulle reconstituted a new French army, from French North African colonies, who fought the Nazis on all theaters until 1945. From North Africa to Germany. Free French forces numbered 1.3 million active in Europe in 1945. 4th Allied Army in numbers.
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Bullshit as usual from anglo-saxons...our "friends"...
France declare war on Germany and Germany invaded France. Italy, Japan, Romania, Finland..... happily collaborated with the Germans to do evil things.
They shot plenty of collaborators during summer 44 but you never heard of it. The guy was just taken to a field close to the village, shot and buried on the spot. My uncle witnessed such a killing while he was bringing the cows back, he was 9. Regular justice came later, with de Gaulle and the "épuration" of Petain s administration.
And I feel the exact same way as you! I missed Vietnam by 2 years! After growing up my entire childhood watching it on the news every day I just knew I was going. There was no question about it. I saw older boys from my neighborhood going and year after year they were getting closer and closer to my age.
I already had a plan if my draft number was too low that I would go ahead and enlist in the Air Force. I was almost in shock when the war ended before I was old enough!
Don't get me wrong I love my country but Vietnam wasn't like WW II. We weren't attacked. It was a very unpopular war as we all know.
My uncle fought in WW II. I tried to get him to tell me about his experiences but I couldn't get him to talk about it at all. He's long gone and all that died with him sadly.
Ditto, same experience as well.
My dad never went overseas. His war stories were about feeding pack mules in Pennsylvania!
Glory to french resistance, a group of brave man and women that hold the honor while many other in France surrunded and cooperated.
There's a dark joke that after liberation, "everyone" claimed to be part of the resistance. -Complete BS.
Also, most of the French resistance were communists. -One horror competing with another.
Heros
Aus heutiger völkerrechtlicher Sicht, waren sie Terroristen!
a co-worker back in the 70`s once told me when on foot patrol in France they came upon a village which had a church and on entering it came across women of the village some were just young girls , every one had been raped and every one of them had their throats cut
There were so many in the Ienstatzgruppen (death squads, in eastern europe that were never brought o trial, if had been the trials would still be going on today> They were needed to rebuild Germany from immense bombing. A concentration camp denied the statements of people living near camps knew any thing he said how did they not know the stench of death went on for miles
It was common to shot partisans in every war, i talked to one of the resistance 20 years ago and he also told me that after the war a lot of french peoples said that they fought for the resistance to get honored.... its not necessary to sai how many germans get shot without a trial. Both side did crule crimes, war is hell
Some german soldiers were executed. Others became soldiers in Foreign Legion....
@ALAIN TERRIEUR Thanks for the factual information. It's important to remember prior to WWII France was an imperialist empire with many overseas colonies.
@@peterlyons8793 didn't end with WWII. As for German soldiers those who deserted often found a way to stay in France. I new one who married the daughter of a farmer who's husband had been killed. He later managed the farm and in the 70'' my grand mother used to send me buy milk from him.
Others? Some sources call the battel of dien bin fu as the germans ss troops last stand!
@@wolfgangemmerich7552 sources that you don't seem willing to share. Ben voyons !
@@danielalexandre4008 Legions history shows its own fallen members in every singel french involved war since the legion exists! Its up to you to find the entrance to this !
I've read a lot about ww2 I've always been fascinated by resistance groups and docos on tvand different stuff on internet I can only say if the resistance did shoot them idd say it's rough justice and I know if idd been involved and seen how my country men and woman were treated by the Germins idd have done the same war is not a game it's you or them
By Sept/Oct '44 the Allies had really soured on the French resistance units. The various units were spending more time and material fighting each other than the enemy. The Allies were making plans to stop supplying resistance units because they were a destabilizing element.
What a stupid and uninformed statement.
Similar to every singel german occupeyed contry ; differend political colored resistance groups claimed the afforts of victory after the german total surrender.
@@wolfgangemmerich7552 not in France. Communists and gaullists found ways not to fight each other. For instance two "maquis" of different political colours would exchange hostages, forcing each other to stay faithful ! Incidents happened but they remained anecdotic.
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@@danielalexandre4008 Do you know how long the vichy regime still works with alliied Ok in the afrikan theater of operations after the germans afrika corps surrender ? .... incl. the interrogation camps for the jewish population in this areas ?
@@wolfgangemmerich7552 "not in France. Communists and gaullists found ways not to fight each other. For instance two "maquis" of different political colours would exchange hostages, forcing each other to stay faithful ! Incidents happened but they remained anecdotic."
He is right, this didn't happen in France. It is a misconception, I don't know where it comes from.
War crimes......every war is a crime
I think war itself is a crime against humanity.
Should western countries not have done anything? Whats the alternative for millions of people held by germans
So we should have asked the Nazis to kindly stop conducting genocide across the whole of Europe then?
Oh well, that’s what happens when you go into someone else’s country. Tough shit.
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The thing most French people won't talk about is a huge percentage of French citizens both supported and collaborated with the Germans. They only started to oppose them when the Allies landed. The women who were brutalized after liberation were no more guilty than many if their neighbors, the only difference being they had physical relationships with the Germans.
Yes the French refused to fight during WWII and expected the British commonwealth & Americans to die for them. Vile people!
I always felt sorry for the women who faced reprisals after the war for having sexual encounters with the Germans, many of who would have little choice in the matter, were desperate, victims of rape or sex workers and who’s collaboration would have no real impact on the war as well as the children who were the results of such pairings who suffered discrimination and abuse for something they had no control over. They faced harsh consequences for inconsequential actions while groups like police officers that freely collaborated in some of the worst crimes of Nazi Germany, such as the holocaust and other mass murders, often got off with out punishment or even harm to their careers.
@@davidjordan697 But many of those women helped Germans to identify Jews
and resistants, knowing well what would have been
their destiny...
Enemy whores is what they were.
@@robertomeneghetti6215 I don't believe that. There was a long laundry list of why those women were treated the way they were. And it was often over them using their crotch to get food and medicines for themselves and family. We have to stop acting like every aspect had something to the Jews when it does not. Sorry to have to tell you that.
If was the only way to stop Germans from killing hostages. The conscripts also did terrible things to innocent people.
these were Wehrmacht prisoners - it was a crime to shoot them
"the victims remained in their graves underground..."
The French are not violent people, but man are they capable of violence.
Pousser a bout , on peu l'être.
@@elsafrei ah bon ? Nan !!! 😁
@@danielalexandre4008 entre parenthèse...Le peuple qui a fait le plus de guerres et de batailles depuis l'antiquité c'est le nôtre...Violents ou simplement bagarreurs. ? N'importe qui peut devenir violent suivant les circonstances..Il est vrai qu'aujourd'hui , on est devenus des moutons bien mous ....
@@elsafrei Les français aiment un bon feu. 🔥🍷🚬🔥
@@davestewart1656 avec des amis !👍
You cannot compère this regrettable shooting with thé numerous atrocities done by the whermacht in France during thé 5 years of occupation. As british you ignoré what it was and thé cannot juge.
killing prisoners is a crime, no matter who does it
The winners decide.
@@jimgiordano3613 nothing to do with justice
@@offlimits4635the Nuremberg trials weren’t trials and were nothing to do with justice. Germans were convicted of crimes that the allies frequently did but were not punished. They were guilty until proven innocent, it was a show trial, truth didn’t matter, they gained false confessions via torture etc.
The British and Americans frequently violate the “standards” they set at Nuremberg and still commit acts they convicted Germans of.
Just look at what Israel is doing to the Palestinian people, it’s objectively ethnic Cleansing and they are settling Gaza with Jews.
That’s why war crimes laws are dumb because only the loser is held accountable and definitions of war crimes can be subjectively made up to suit the interests of the victorious power
Germand soldiers killed and burned alive several villages around 100 people some days before
@@That-one-Freikorp no, the Wehrmacht did not do that, it did not happen. The French Resistance however did burn prisoners alive - they burned Helmut Kaempfe and a number of medics alive (the resistance captured their ambulance) which prompted the massacre at Oradour
*Where are the executions as depicted in the thumbnail?*
My father-in-law a French National was conscripted by the Germans during WWII and eventually wound up in a Russian gulag until the Red Cross could get him released in the mid 70’s the family emigrated to the US.
@@tamhiker1 unfortunately you are incorrect. He had documents signed by the Germans verifying this. After the war he received benefits from both France and Germany. He was from the Lorraine area.
The eastern provinces of France -Alsace-Lorraine were claimed by both France and Germany and changed hands many times. During WWII the Germans regarded it as German territory and conscripted ethnic French into the German Army. There was intermarriage between the two groups and the line between who was French and who was German was not always cleared. Read the book “The Forgotten Soldier” by Guy Sajer who was from that area, was conscripted into the German Army and fought on the Eastern Front with the Grossdeutchland division. He managed to escape capture by the Soviets and returned home after the war to what had become French territory. He was not punished.
And another one that "witnessed" atrocities but of course never "participated" - yeah right!
Yeah, just like Germans playing dumb- Oh, we didn't know.
@@mirquellasantos2716 yes. Just following orders
At least the resistance did not go after those soldiers’ families, which happened the other way round.
WAR IS INDEED HELL!!!!!
When people say, “I could never do that!” Don’t be so sure!!
sur un site français, ce serait mieux en français....
In this case, is it an execution or murder? Cause this sounds like straight up murder to me. And, I think they all felt the same way, cause why else would it be kept secret for 75 years? Sorry, but, murder is murder, no matter who's pulling the trigger and who's getting shot. Especially when there hasn't been a trial. He knew this, that's why he waited til he's 98 yrs old, and has one foot in the grave. He knows he'll never be held accountable for his part in the murders of unarmed prisoners.
Authentic story in same way as here : Meuse begin of September 44 , US forces are coming, the streets are full of french resistance ( the last hour resistance )soldiers, the french resistance in a little village shot and stop an Sdkfz 251 with red cross, but has the vehicle is camofled, patriots said :" it's not normal, it's an assault vehicle, not red cross " ( stupid ! ) only 2 germans soldiers were on board, one of them was a little fat guy, they catch them and leave them in a little room, and to know what to do with them, all patriots resistance group goes to the cafe all afternoon to discuss, let you imagine of much alcohol they have drink at the end of the day, finaly even if one of the german soldier was showing pictures of his childrens, they have fired and executed the 2 poor german soldiers, and today, the 2 bodies are always in the french Meuse forest ( not so far from WW1 verdun battelfields ) ...this true story was coming from witness of this period, and as here be sure that all resistance actors are all died today...may be one day they will refind german bodies again, and offer them a respectful grave....Remember ! thanks for sharing : )
Complicated story....I differentiate the regular german soldier from the SS. But the german army has an history on the german side to brutalise civilians ie : in the 1870 Prussian/ French war, the belgian civilian in WW1, WW2.... The SS have a special history of killing prisonner and wounded ( the killing of British soldiers at Le paradis for instance) the systematic killing of black colonial troop. When you are a master race soldier ( SS) you are make to believe that it is normal...so SS soldier being executed I am not scandalised....
Don't overlook the 20,000 French SS
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say atrocities committed by German soldiers far outpace any atrocity committed by the resistance fighters.
I wonder though. I’m not a Nazi sympathizer but I think had I been a resistance fighter every cheap shot with painful or deadly outcomes I would’ve committed to the Germans after I’d seen them kill my family, friends and neighbors. I wouldn’t have felt compelled to mention it in confession on Sat night after the priest the Nazis killed was replaced later on. I’d let God review the case
Ist der 10-fache Mörder der bessere Mensch als der 20-fache Mörder?
Oder wie soll ich ihre Meinung interpretieren???
@@peterschulz4115 Es war Deutschland, das in Frankreich einmarschierte. Das allein führt dazu, dass Ihr Kommentar keine moralische Grundlage mehr hat. Vergessen Sie die falsche Logik.
@@patrickclune3600 Thank goodness most of the world don't feel that way. If so, we would all be under Nazi, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japanese rule.
@@orangetube1 Das ist marginal.
They should show civilians the films of recorded executions as to people would know what awaits them in racist atrocities
innocent Wehrmacht soldiers killed by the resitance can blame their fellow Germans for bringing them to their fates. War is hell.
u have no idea of the real truth about ww2
A war crime is a war crime no matter who does it....thats all I can really say about this.
I cal, it justice, not a war crime. Every german killed was justice. Every murder by a german was a crime.
Those germans fought for hitler, it was not a war crime to kill them, it was justice, good justice.
Until the end of WW2 there was not even the concept of war crime (which appeared exactly for the cruelty and lawless of crimes executed by the Nazis and Japan forces mainly!)
You really dont understand what war is all about. What happens over time is that it breaks down into its rawest form. This is almost a given. Its kill of be killed. My father was in Leyte Gulf in the Philippines during WW2. He said they were under direct orders from General McArthur to take prisoners!! They needed Intel and the Japanese did not sign the Geneva convention so the prisoners would talk. The problem was that the Japanese were so fanatical that it became clear early on that they could not trust them to surrender. So they just killed them and vica versa. This kill or be killed is purely animalistic and thats the way it is. So you have to keep this in mind before you pass judgment and then put yourself in that time and place and if you did you would be appalled at what was going on. The concept of humanity itself breaks down.
Several villages were destroyed and inhabitants, men, women and children, murdered. Some locked in churches set on fire -Oradour-others their throats cut, including babies, or shot. the village of Maillé amongst many others, this as a direct retribution to the Resistance actions, and to terrorise the population. So, to put this back into the context of the time, and bearing in mind some of those shot were guilty of the most horrific crimes, I cannot, and will not, condemn the fact they were executed in time of war. They had to be stopped, they were.
"Live by the sword.
Die by the sword."
Perhaps you should have been there.
why dont you cover the war crimes committed by the brit army in the BOER war 1899?
PFUI !!! Mein Vater war Meteorologe ….(!) und entkam in 3 Jahren
franz. Gefangenschaft ( mit bleibendem Schaden) nur ganz knapp
dem unverdienten Hungertod (punktum)
Ah, he French Resistance. There's a huge body of myth around the Resistance. When you really dig into it, you discover that the resistance was not strictly dedicated to fighting the Germans, but was also broken up into groups allied with the British (The Free French), Communists loyal to the Comintern (Stalin), local groups working to their own ends, whatever those might be, and just plain criminals and bandits. The Allied and Soviet aligned groups worked to the ends of those forces, for the most part. The local groups were a wild card, working with or against other groups, and of course the criminals and bandits just took advantage. In some cases, the triple forces of Free French, Communist and Local groups came into conflict, up to and including literally shooting each other and in even going so far as to inform on opposing groups to the Germans. I read about one area in the south of France where the Free French and Communist forces were so busy fighting amongst themselves the Germans simply left them alone as they were accomplishing nothing of value and both sides were informing on the other. I also seem to remember that the Communist and Free French Resistance wound up setting up lines of demarcation in Paris so they didn't wind up with a pitched battle in the street once the Germans left.
It's true that the different resistance groups were not unified at the beginning. It's also true that there had been some settling of scores when a resistance fighter was suspected of treason, but where do you get from that the different resistance groups were fighting each other ? That's something I regularly read in comments and when I ask "where do you get this information from because I have never heard of it", I never get a reply.
There is a very interesting book written by Keith Lowe, which title is "Savage continent - Europe in the afterrmath of world war II". Here are two excerpts of his book related to the different resistance groups in Europe :
1- In France the Resistance had liberated at least fifteen "départements" on their own, and were in control of most of the south and west of the country even before the Allies had reached Paris.
2- (About the EAM, a resistance group in Greece) Unlike in France and Italy, where, generally speaking, the different resistance groups cooperated with each other to oust the Germans, EAM/ELAS spent much of their time fighting other resistance groups rather than the occupier.
Whether they fought each other or not, De Gaulle always insisted that the different groups were not dropped heavy weapons because he knew of the different loyalties these groups had..
@@jackreacher5667 De Gaulle was always scared of the communists and didn't want to give them too much power.
If you were captured by the French Resistance, they had no prison camp to go to so the ultimate action was to execute so their acts were mutual. Basically, the Germans looked at them as terrorists.
Payback is a problem
Normal , mon père au maquis en Corrèze a eu un camarade blessé et prisonnier par la division SS das Reich qui a été attaché au canon d'un char et a agoni toute une nuit... Ça n'incite pas à la clémence...
Sad to those Germans