The Godfather Part II - How Coppola Quotes Himself

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    The Godfather Part II is arguably the greatest sequel ever made, in large part because of how the film expands on the story and characters created in The Godfather I. This video examines how Francis Ford Coppola quotes Godfather I in its epic sequel in order to build on the major themes of the saga and further deconstruct Michael Corleone.
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  • @Jimdixon1953
    @Jimdixon1953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    “Fredo...you’re my older brother and I love you...but don’t ever wear that jacket and bow tie combination to a family meeting ever again”

    • @ryann8680
      @ryann8680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Fredo should have been found hanging in that clown outfit as the family came home from momma corleoe's funeral...it's a sicilian message

    • @oliverholmes-gunning5372
      @oliverholmes-gunning5372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Michael's dupioni silk suit in that scene on the other hand may be the most beautiful outfit in the history of cinema.

    • @kargs5krun
      @kargs5krun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ryann8680 With a string of oranges around his neck. #deathsymbolism

    • @kargs5krun
      @kargs5krun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      (or) "....and I love you...but WTH cut your hair?"

    • @shevy7197
      @shevy7197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one 👍 XX

  • @commentcopbadge6665
    @commentcopbadge6665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Poor Fredo. Drowned while fishing... with a bullet hole in the back of his head. Such a tragic accident.

    • @ujjwalkumar-mw6pb
      @ujjwalkumar-mw6pb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      he literally sleeps with fishes now

    • @thirdhandlv4231
      @thirdhandlv4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At least he went fast and without any shock, it just ended out of nowhere for him.

    • @jasonleetaiwan
      @jasonleetaiwan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol… great quote from two different films. I bet Fredo didn’t get an open coffin funeral. Drowning wouldn’t have been believable.

    • @heyitsvos
      @heyitsvos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a shame when they go young like that

  • @rumigilani7525
    @rumigilani7525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    “It’s like poetry, it rhymes.”
    - George Lucas

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Kicking myself that I didn't include this in the video.

    • @TheGabe473
      @TheGabe473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bravo

    • @henryapplebottom7231
      @henryapplebottom7231 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Yoo-o she's bobbing on my burger right now"
      -Bob Burger from Bob's Burgers

  • @corbinmarkey466
    @corbinmarkey466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Other scenes recontextualized in the second movie from the first include:
    - an assault on the family from someone inside that sets the plot in motion
    - Michael returning home to Kay after a long period of time out of the country
    - my personal favorite: 'never do business with anyone outside the family' vs. 'Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer'
    And also ORANGES

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Excellent points.

    • @corbinmarkey466
      @corbinmarkey466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@EyebrowCinema very happy to contribute to a discussion on these great films 👍🏼 for all their accolades, I've heard very few robust dissections of them like you've done in your video

    • @L0LZZZOR
      @L0LZZZOR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Great points! Would like to add another one. The dead prostitute scene in part 2 alludes to the horse head scene in part 1, and shows Michael's change into "the monster".

    • @corbinmarkey466
      @corbinmarkey466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ok, I just rewatched another scene that plays perfectly into the 'longer, slower, and more painful' approach to Part II and is maybe my favorite example of that:
      Tom's final scene with Frankie, reflecting his scene with Tessio in Part 1. In part 1, Tessio asks if he can get off the hook and Tom simply refuses. However, when Tom and Frankie have their farewell, everything in the writing and the staging draws out the pain its causing them, and neither one of them wants it to end because they know that it will be the last time they see each other. Longer, slower, and more painful 👍

    • @mranster
      @mranster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There's also a cake in every Godfather movie. Connie's wedding cake, the cake that Roth shares with everyone in Cuba, and the cake presented in the shindig at the start of G3.

  • @connor9613
    @connor9613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    TH-cam made a recommendation I couldn't refuse.

  • @sidafakaba2376
    @sidafakaba2376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    The godfather part 1 and 2 has the greatest movie story ever told

    • @aristotleonassis5792
      @aristotleonassis5792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I second that.

    • @dawsondjodvorj2408
      @dawsondjodvorj2408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Without a doubt

    • @curascristi106
      @curascristi106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The dark knight or pulp fiction have to be third

    • @dawsondjodvorj2408
      @dawsondjodvorj2408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@curascristi106 certainly not even close for me.

    • @captaindeadpool313
      @captaindeadpool313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@curascristi106 Add Inception, Fight Club, Schindlers list and especially The Shawshank Redemption along with LOTR. and I totally agree with you.

  • @nateds7326
    @nateds7326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    That moment when your movie is so long you can literally bake a loaf of bread in the middle of it to eat while you watch it.
    Which I may or may not have done the first time I watched godfather 2.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Coppola of all people would appreciate cooking and eating during a movie.

    • @nateds7326
      @nateds7326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I imagine he would

    • @jasonbonham2057
      @jasonbonham2057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both when I was introduced to The Godfather 1 and 2 and when I showed my girlfriend the films, we had to have food with them. I firmly agree with this.

    • @chocho8036
      @chocho8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      great comment

  • @johnfitzpatrick3094
    @johnfitzpatrick3094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    One thing you omitted was the horse's head and dead hooker. In the first film, Woltz waking up to his horse's head was seen as a comeuppance for the character. Senator Geary in bed with the dead hooker is more shocking, because they killed a woman to get their way, and Geary's "comeuppance" is not as satisfying.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Excellent point, John.

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Part of what makes the first movie so fascinating is that it makes you care about people who are fundamentally scum. Part of this is due to the fact that the characters almost never murder or hurt innocent people (the corleone family). This movie rips all that glamor set up in the first movie away and reveals the dark ugly truth behind the mafia. Brilliant writing

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    One of the things I love about the cinematography in both of them is that the outdoor scenes - the wedding in Part I and first communion in Part II for example - really look like they're from the periods they're portraying. Some of the shots from Connie's wedding look like color newsreel footage from the 40s and 50s (watch it without sound), but the communion party in Tahoe in Part II: it has a quality of the Super-8 footage one sees from the late 50s/Kennedy era. It's one of many ways GFI & II have always made me feel like I'm watching actual historical footage of the eras being depicted. For all the drama and epic quality, they're still two of the most believable films.

  • @hexipolar8158
    @hexipolar8158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    The Godfather Part 2 is one of my favorite movies. I’m glad to hear someone else appreciates the connections to the first film. I also like how part 2 doesn’t feel the need to go bigger and more violent than the first.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It's a sequel that moves inward rather than outward.

  • @speedracer2008
    @speedracer2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    A contrast that I notice between the two films is Kay’s hairstyle. In the first film, it’s lively, curly, and wild, indicating her independence, while, in the second film, it’s plain and flat, indicating how she’s trapped in her life with the Corleone family.

    • @chocho8036
      @chocho8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      hair style tells a story, great observation. it's true, her hair is awful in the second one, and purposely so

    • @kates6371
      @kates6371 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except when she tells Michael
      That she’s leaving

  • @aristotleonassis5792
    @aristotleonassis5792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    "I am Enzo, de Baker"

    • @karlazeen
      @karlazeen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My name is Enzo, I guess that's why the godfather is one of my favorite movies.

    • @robertlevine2827
      @robertlevine2827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "For your fadder, your fadder!"

  • @neelanshguptaa310
    @neelanshguptaa310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Never have I been more happy with TH-cam recommendations.

  • @thamilton8383
    @thamilton8383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I always think of that last scene as the quote “a painting tells a thousand words” at that moment Micheal has gotten rid of all his enemies all the conflict in his family and he now has some time to reflect not just the events of part two but all of his life choices and his future choices he’s got everything but at what cost

    • @speedracer2008
      @speedracer2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It serves as a payoff to the question Tom poses earlier in the film. “Is it worth it?” Michael’s face tells us it wasn’t.

  • @klmullins65
    @klmullins65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Does anyone else notice the visual similarities between Roth's killing and Jack Ruby's shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald? Im surprised that I haven't seen that pointed out in any of the Godfather saga analization videos that Ive seen on TH-cam

  • @djmadjam6434
    @djmadjam6434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    DUDE, i was shocked to see you only had 5.4k subs , after watching this i wouldve thought you were a way bigger channel and i say that in a goodway. Keep it up bro you're videos are great

  • @gonzaloandrepalacios2928
    @gonzaloandrepalacios2928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Vito had almost all his family killed... He was sick when he went to America. I mean, he did not have it that easy. Anyway, great video, as always.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Maybe I overemphasized that point a bit as Vito certainly had his struggles. My point was more that the moral quandaries Vito faced were much more clear cut than Michael's.

    • @nateds7326
      @nateds7326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Easier. Not undercutting the fact that vito had his share of hell

    • @Visplight
      @Visplight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      His troubles before America are separate from his troubles as a mobster.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EyebrowCinema Vito's problems are Sicilian/Italian problems. Until he meets Hyman Roth (in a deleted scene) he has virtually no dealings with non Italians.
      Michael's problems are very American problems-politics, the law, big money and insufficient manliness.

    • @ravi87910
      @ravi87910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      had it easy in his choices not in his life

  • @KphexTwin00
    @KphexTwin00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is the best video analysis on the godfather as a whole. Brilliant.

  • @DwRockett
    @DwRockett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Continuously the most underrated film TH-camr, great analysis as usual

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I appreciate that. Your continued support has not gone unnoticed.

  • @nateds7326
    @nateds7326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    It's funny how Pacino is known for hits freakouts, because in the godfather 1&2 he doesn't so much as raise his voice more than 4 or 5 times.
    He shouts about 15 times in godfather 3 by my count. Bit telling imo

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Great point. There's definitely a disconnect between Pacino's reputation and the fact that his most iconic role is someone with a dead calm demeanor whose always masking his real feelings. It's a big part of why Part II is so tense. You can see this guy just full of rage and intensity having to constantly keep a lid on things. Those moments where the mask slips, namely the fight with Kay, are gut-punch moments.

    • @davidlean1060
      @davidlean1060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's left that phase behind again now, if The Irishman is anything to go by.

    • @davidlean1060
      @davidlean1060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Kai McCook I mean he plays it all cooler. There are no out bursts like 'don't waste my mothafukin time!!' as there are in Heat for example. Overall, The Irishman plays it cool as fuck..or cool as feck as an Irishman would say. That's the beauty of the movie for me. The whisper is louder than the shout and all that.

    • @luckyowl10
      @luckyowl10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Al Pacino is a great actor, one of the bests of its generation. I think he can act a wide range of characters, but nowadays movies just want OJ Al Pacino, they don't bother changing him from his normal maniac acting

    • @robertlevine2827
      @robertlevine2827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Why can't anybody give me a straight answer!"

  • @HS_Gomikubi
    @HS_Gomikubi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Another detail that emphasizes exactly what you describe about the door scenes, something which might seem perfectly obvious but to me still seems worthy of carrying a level of symbolism unto itself, is the physical locations of which doors are being closed. In Part 1, the door being shut is merely the door to a certain room of the Corleone family home, a room in particular meant for the conducting of such business that now belongs to Michael. Kay may not be allowed to be a part of "The Life", but she is still in the house, thus still present in his life (if only on a superficial level) and free to at least partake of what other commodities the place may be able to provide her. In Part 2, the door being closed is literally the front entrance. Just as you put it Kay is being rejected personally by Michael... Not just from his business, but from his home, from any and all of the things that home once offered.
    What that home represented in her mind, whether it offered her anything of value is it's own topic of course. If I had the time to sit down and watch the movies again I might have more to say on that angle but this was just what I noticed after watching the video here.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent point.

    • @camcabbas
      @camcabbas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not even the front entrance, it is the back door, which only makes your point even better.

  • @dawsondjodvorj2408
    @dawsondjodvorj2408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The best analysis i've ever seen. Brilliant video, also the godfather 1 & 2 are my favorite of all time. Plus I believe Al Pacino in the godfather 2 gave the greatest acting performances ever, that performance was just unbelievably good.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Two of my favourites as well. And Pacino's performance is certainly in the pantheon. Thanks for your kind words.

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Certainly up there. I would personally say Brando's performance in Part 1 is marginally better, but it's very close

  • @provablegrub4581
    @provablegrub4581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another fantastic video. Your channel is criminally underrated. Unlike some other film analysis videos, you really seem to put a lot into each video. I know this is a popular thing to say about small channels on TH-cam, but in this case it’s completely true.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I appreciate that. Glad you liked the video.

  • @cabalofdemons
    @cabalofdemons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Great analysis. I particularly like the discussion about the party in the first GF film and how it contrasts with the party in GF2. The first film the Corleone family is attached to its Italian roots. The music, culture, language, etc. However, in the sequel the party is less grandiose and "cultural." It's Americanized and bland, thus showing how the Corleone family has become American. Michael defended his family in the first film, his heritage. In the second film, he defended his business, thus showing how American capitalism influenced him.

    • @aliveormedicated
      @aliveormedicated 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      can someone tell me why can’t preserve their heritage while embracing capitalism at the same time? why are they exclusive to eachother?

    • @pereirafernando7413
      @pereirafernando7413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aliveormedicated It’s like how corporates influenced mass media, which destroyed traditions, in a variety of ways.

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aliveormedicated This movie depicts the immigrant experience, showing that in a new nation it's difficult to keep older traditions in a newer culture, sacrifice must be made. For the Corleones to keep surviving in this place without their father to help them, sacrifice is necessary

  • @monsthar471
    @monsthar471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a fan of this movie for 2 years now and still there's a lot of details I have missed, Your more depth analysis blew my mind.

  • @connor9613
    @connor9613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Please keep making more analysis videos of the Godfather. It gives great perspectives that I've never thought about and its interesting to watch while in lockdown.

  • @ellenardi6333
    @ellenardi6333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was amazing. I'd like to see a video essay on Part III and the difference in how it quotes the earlier films and whether you think it succeeds or fails.

    • @NotSoRandom_
      @NotSoRandom_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it’s best we leave Part III be 😅

  • @johnmillholland6550
    @johnmillholland6550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing video well articulating how Godfather 1 & 2 relate in intelligent conversation.

  • @MousePounder
    @MousePounder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    HOW DO YOU ONLY HAVE 2.5k SUBS!

  • @divyanshmunoth6443
    @divyanshmunoth6443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the greatest video essays I have seen on one of the greatest films.

  • @chefraamsay9934
    @chefraamsay9934 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love this video…
    Recently I’ve been on a godfather kick and nobody really talks about the movies quite like you do. The way you analyze and compare the first two movies is incredibly interesting. Thank you for this Eyebrow!

  • @hellothere5094
    @hellothere5094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You sure know how to end a video
    That music still gives me chills

  • @NotSoRandom_
    @NotSoRandom_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Greatest sequel ever. And imagine trying to top the greatest movie ever

  • @reovin0612
    @reovin0612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a great analysis, mate. Great job! I'll always come back to this video whenever I rewatch the first two godfather films, my favorite films of all time.

  • @postaldude39
    @postaldude39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These things you cover are aspects that the film puts in your head no matter what, even though you don't realize how it is done. It is an obvious thing that Michael is pushing away from his wife and becoming a gangsta, but the way you explained how that is shown in the visuals is actually impressive.
    I'm waiting for part 3! (which is considered the worst one of them all, though being an excellent film)

  • @erdalbuke2314
    @erdalbuke2314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you my friend for this beautiful analysis. As a fan of The Godfather movies I enjoyed it every minute of it. You revealed the characters as real humans with real human struggles and actions. That I also why I am a big fan of the films. It is not a B movie about gangsters it is a movie about evolution from simple people who try to make living in a hars environment till how to contain, control and preserve a criminal syndication where even your brother is used as a weapon against you.

  • @johnathonhaney8291
    @johnathonhaney8291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    19:30 Watching that final scene years ago over and over again, I came up with a little Rod Serling style monologue to illustrate it: "You are Michael Corleone, sole surviving son of Vito Corleone. You have plotted and killed your way to the top and what have you got to show for it? (Pause between the leadup music and the final musical cue). Nothing..."

    • @MousePounder
      @MousePounder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼 Love it!

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MousePounder Thanks...it's just a little riff on what I was seeing onscreen. I was OBSESSED with both Godfathers (never cottoned to 3, no offense to anyone who did) and watched them over and over. Seeing these movies helped make me a ghostwriter.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EyebrowCinema Again, thanks! If you'd like to see another variant on the intertextuality you talked up in the video, I urge you to find Max Allan Collins' Road To Perdition (go with the expanded novel for proper effect) and its immediate sequel Road To Purgatory. There's a lot of other sequels after those (including one last direct sequel, Road To Paradise, which is The Godfather Part 3 that Coppola couldn't make) but those two novels, using actual gangster figures, fit the theme of your video.

  • @olegtriers8882
    @olegtriers8882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant analysis! Some of the best and most rigorous film analysis on TH-cam

  • @chumarirunning5370
    @chumarirunning5370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've watched these movies a million times but missed to see a lot of these points, awesome video!!

  • @riskzerobeatz
    @riskzerobeatz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! You pay these magnificient cinematography gems deserved respect.

  • @michaelhall2709
    @michaelhall2709 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful essay. So many points I hadn’t considered, and not a false note in any of them. Kudos.

  • @aaronfahey5517
    @aaronfahey5517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    brilliant analysis, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this.

  • @jiadongzhu8198
    @jiadongzhu8198 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This analysis is phenomenal! I've watched Godfather for more than 5 times but I never noticed these comparisons between 1 and 2.

  • @JockDunbarAU
    @JockDunbarAU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks - loved the breakdown of how part 2 references part 1. Makes me think how unnecessary part 3 was to the overall story, but would be interested to hear your analysis on that too. Great work!

  • @mishasaji2365
    @mishasaji2365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Watching Godfather 2 made me feel bad for Michael, when he started out as don there was so much at stake in contrast to Vito who was already was at his worse being an unemployed common thief trying to feed his family, therefore his trajectory can only be upward. And Vito's rise was slow which made its foundation strong. When Michael came to power he had a whole crime empire already there to fix under the shadow of his father while dealing with the loss of his first wife, father and brother. He had to weed out people in his own family and friends because of their betrayal. Vito never had to deal with that kind of turmoil in his family and friends because most of his problems were external.

    • @MrExtraordinaire16
      @MrExtraordinaire16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great comment man I totally understand how you feel I felt same way when I watched the godfather duoligy for the first time I still do even today

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael at the start of Part 2 always felt like Vito, but in worse circumstances. It's at the end of the movie that he just completely changes into something beyond anything the rest of the family was capable of

  • @patrickstiadle3857
    @patrickstiadle3857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good analysis. I esp appreciated the challenge to the Michael-was-a-meaner-gangster-than-Vito argument. Never quite rang true to me, & I believe your explanation helped shed some light on that for me.

  • @TurrettiniPizza
    @TurrettiniPizza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You forgot the parallel scenes where Vito and Michael each find out about the death of their sons (unborn in Michael's case).

    • @MrExtraordinaire16
      @MrExtraordinaire16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but it's the lose of a son and mickael was in deep problems when he heard the news he just found out that fredo had betrayed and that he was going where as in first film just got out of a situation which how shall I say this which made him prepared for the news than mickael

    • @MrExtraordinaire16
      @MrExtraordinaire16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I forgot to write he was asked to go into court

    • @MrExtraordinaire16
      @MrExtraordinaire16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh btw let me guess you watch nerdwriter before watching this video good taste I'm gonna give you a like just for that

    • @TurrettiniPizza
      @TurrettiniPizza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imran Chowdhury haha yeah. Well I watched this video weeks ago and Nerdwriter’s the other day, then it reminded me of this video.

    • @MrExtraordinaire16
      @MrExtraordinaire16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice

  • @JaspreetSingh-dh4nf
    @JaspreetSingh-dh4nf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Many people might disagree with me but I like godfather 2 a tat bit more than 1.

  • @CineRanter
    @CineRanter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video mate - great points all round

  • @tenfoldtuesday5917
    @tenfoldtuesday5917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was brilliantly explained and articulated. Great video!

  • @WiseGuyUE92
    @WiseGuyUE92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vito had it harder than Michael but everything else was spot on! Keep ‘‘em coming!!

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think he meant it like that. He's talking about the situations that led them to committing the crimes they did. Murder, stealing, etc. were all a lot easier on Vito and he had a choice on whether or not to do them. Michael had to do everything he did.

    • @WiseGuyUE92
      @WiseGuyUE92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@errwhattheflip Both of them had choices. They both chose to do the things they did. Nobody forced them to do anything. The difference is Michael's choices were aided by an empire and infrastructure he inherited from his father. Vito didn't have nearly as many resources at his disposal while he was making his choices.

    • @errwhattheflip
      @errwhattheflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WiseGuyUE92 Sure, but had Michael not done that his family would have been in actual danger. This was the best choice to protect his family. Vito didn't exactly have to do so.

    • @WiseGuyUE92
      @WiseGuyUE92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@errwhattheflip I'm not taking anything away from Michael, I think Michael's choices were noble and admirable despite mistakes made along the way. He really did make those choices to protect his family and I salute him for that but neither of them had to do the things they did. They both made choices and they were both incredibly successful but Vito had to drag himself from the depths of obscurity, Michael had a lot more to work with but I love both of them.

  • @myriaddsystems
    @myriaddsystems 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant, deeply insightful, analysis, superbly presented. THANKS

  • @Wolfsky9
    @Wolfsky9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent analysis sir. --------II've seen an entry here by a female " therapist", stating that Michael is a classic psychopath. To me, she has entirely missed the point of how Mario Puzo & Francis Ford Coppola created him. He's a tragic character ------one who grows into tragedy as the 2 films go on. thus, by the end of " GF2 ", Michael is alone ------with all of his haunted thoughts & failings. He's NOT a psychopath at all, but a sad, tragic failure. -----------------------WolfSky9, 73 y/o

  • @lubormrazek5545
    @lubormrazek5545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    oh it reads intertextuality... I saw intersexuailty...I'm broke XD

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm sorry for any inadvertent disappointment.

  • @oogiedragonus
    @oogiedragonus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Vito having "easier" is still understated. Having lost his family, his home, and his identity, he learned very quickly that you have to seize the moment to make it in America. He got a flash of Fanucci already taking his job from him as well as terrifying his friends through shakedowns. Compound the issue further with a wife and children of his own to take care of. No police to run to and no other visible means of support, what should he have done? Otherwise great analysis.

    • @elmermedina1713
      @elmermedina1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vito had little choice and opportunities after losing his job to Fanucci. He took the lemons life gave him and made lemonade.

  • @multimeter2859
    @multimeter2859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude this was an expert analysis. Well done!

  • @nateds7326
    @nateds7326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive always loved godfather part 2's look. In a movie series that revolutionized the look of movies, 2 somehow still stands put just a bit more. The blacks are much deeper and more prominant, as oposed to the first godfather movie that contrasted light with shadow, the shadow dominates most of the movie. And that's thematically relevant cause godfather 2 is much harder to watch and emotionally gutting than the first. Like obviously 1 is not a fun movie but at least its got the warm family atmosphere and the Italian isms, and the brightly lit outdoor shots. All of the brightly lit scenes in godfather 2 are literally artificial;usually with overhead lights or lamps. Theres also the vito corleone flashbacks which also look fantastic, the brown filter making the film look older and more aged is simple but it works very well. It astounds me that neither of these films got nominated for best cinematography.

  • @ernestolombardo5811
    @ernestolombardo5811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another quote/echo comes from the death of innocents at the hands of the Corleones:
    In Part 1 a film mogul wakes up to a dead horse in bed.
    In Part 2 an elected official wakes up to a dead woman in bed.
    While both acts are abhorrent, Part 2 crosses a line that Vito never did ("we're not animals, despite what this undertaker says"), with the collaboration of Tom and in Fredo's hotel. We are shown in no uncertain terms that the entire family has taken a crucial next rung down into a deeper level of hell.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is another really excellent point.

  • @zebertmcfly7274
    @zebertmcfly7274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an amazing video essay. I love that you do in-depth stuff on these classics, oddly enough this is rare. And it shows that the sentiment "everything has been said already" is mostly wrong, there is always a new aspect to shine a light on.
    Also thanks as this is some nice ammunition for the next time someone tries to downplay the Godfather movies.
    There is a lot of "Michael is so genius, he again outsmarts everyone yada yada" going around these days.
    Way to miss the point!
    Sorry, guess I needed to get this out of my system.
    Again, great video!

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your kind words! It can definitely be a challenge to try and bring something new to such lionized classics, but it's very exciting when something clicks.

    • @zebertmcfly7274
      @zebertmcfly7274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EyebrowCinema you're welcome. I recently rewatched the Godfather series and I wanted to get some info about that new CODA version of part III. Didnt find anything particularly good but in turn the almighty youtube algorithm apparently meant well and presented me your video in my recommendations.

  • @gimelzayin
    @gimelzayin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOW. I WANT TO SEE THE TWO MOVIES AGAIN WITH THIS NEW PERSPECTIVE. THANKS!

  • @alanford3359
    @alanford3359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A fascinating, really clearly delineated, educational video essay, thank you. You're editing is top notch too, really clear and serves to emphasise you're written work deftly. I really enjoyed it. Plus, kudos on your nifty Sopranos/'gabolgool' joke, a nice quirky bit of sublimation 😄 it's amazing how quickly a type of Italian cold meat became such a household name after that series became so popular.

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your kind words. And I'm the Sopranos joke landed. I basically put that in there for one friend and had no idea if it would play to anyone else.

    • @alanford3359
      @alanford3359 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EyebrowCinema Sincerely, my pleasure. I've really enjoyed watching/listening to your work over the past couple of months, it really enriches my film viewing experiences.
      I'm glad to be one of the (possible) few (I imagine it will certainly click with others) who so far found the little 'gabolgool' /Sopranos joke amusing. For years I wondered what the hell it was that the dude was shouting to the other wedding party guest when chucking those packages over to him. I thought it was some kind of good natured insult. And then years later the mystery was solved when watching an episode of The Sopranos when Tony was confusedly obsessing over the connection between his mother, fainting brought about by panic attacks and cold cuts of Italian meat. In your edit you managed to condense years of puzzlement into about 4 seconds worth of time. Thank you 😄 (though I might add, I didn't spend all those wondering what that dude said, I assure you, I had at least a couple of other things to think about and ponder haha).
      Anyway, Keep up the good work D. S. I look forward to your forth coming video essays. Take care.

  • @rosearnold791
    @rosearnold791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Each Godfather movie begins with a celebration

  • @NaterTot
    @NaterTot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great analysis with some more fantastic editing.

  • @camjames8154
    @camjames8154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Analysis, a lot of this I hadn't thought of!

  • @lucasbertsche3710
    @lucasbertsche3710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video, just what I was looking for after my rewatch of part 1 and 2!

  • @mmudigonda
    @mmudigonda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an incredibly beautiful video. Absolutely wonderful

  • @MousePounder
    @MousePounder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just finished watching. This was enlightening. Also, bonus points for getting me to understand what "intertextuality" can do when pulled off by one of the greats.
    You have a paypal or a patreon?

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      No paypal or patreon, I'm afraid. If you do wanna support the channel, you can always like, share, and subscribe. Right now, being seen is most important in my TH-cam goals. And I'm glad you liked the video! These two films are some of my all-time favourites so this was something of a passion project.

  • @mrfurio875
    @mrfurio875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve been gone a long time Sil...... just when i thought I was out. They pull me back in! Is that Pacino or is that Pacino

  • @robertdelmonaco1854
    @robertdelmonaco1854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video! I like your take on Vito having it easier than Michael. Never thought of it that way

  • @ramilkhalilli4948
    @ramilkhalilli4948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very great video and amazing explanation , really , thank you very much👑

  • @shayantheunworthy3390
    @shayantheunworthy3390 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video essay made me wach part II again. Thank you my friend.

  • @samuelaugusto761
    @samuelaugusto761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And to think that later, Conney would become such a massive player and influence in Godfather part.3

    • @EyebrowCinema
      @EyebrowCinema  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's one of the best parts of III.

  • @dzakya2537
    @dzakya2537 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! i love your take that Vito always had it easier...
    no one is better, no one is crueler
    it's a matter of circumstances

  • @ethanevans2689
    @ethanevans2689 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautifully put. Parallels I’ve never noticed before

  • @ThaRealDrJ
    @ThaRealDrJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That stare at the end is almost like a symbol for everyone wanting a part 3, what was he thinking and would happen after. Truly the greatest movies of a lifetime and 3 deserves its credit because not every ending is pretty but an ending nonetheless

  • @n.tudorica7232
    @n.tudorica7232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally somebody mentioned that Michael went through some tough shit and that's why he became a monster, not the same as Vito went. Mike had reasons to become a crucial boss.

  • @gigantorize
    @gigantorize 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor Fredo had pneumonia as a baby and the illness affected his thinking as a grown man making him slow and weak minded. This seems to have been missed by many critics but logically developed to show how he betrayed his family. - And btw, all business is 'personal'.

  • @User-xw6kd
    @User-xw6kd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work man. Your channel is super underrated.

  • @Kuudere-Kun
    @Kuudere-Kun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want more of these video essays analyzing how movies quote other movies, this and Rick Worley's video on the Star Wars Prequels are pretty good. But it can also go beyond Cinema, Anime often does the same thing.

  • @TurrettiniPizza
    @TurrettiniPizza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome breakdown shewing me even more how this is a masterpiece.

  • @ScriptSleuth
    @ScriptSleuth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Excellent work on this video!

  • @alvarinh00
    @alvarinh00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video man, you made me like the sequel even more

  • @notthatguy0934
    @notthatguy0934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coppola is a genius

  • @shalomccs
    @shalomccs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The film is a masterpiece because they had the best on the screen and the best behind the screen. You can be a great Director but if you have the actors that can make people stay on their seats no matter if they are stars or not.

  • @raoul3016
    @raoul3016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where tf was this video when I was doing a paper on intertextuality last year?!

  • @عقبةبننافعبنالقيسالفهري
    @عقبةبننافعبنالقيسالفهري 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved your review of my favorite movies of all time!!

  • @sebastienyoutube692
    @sebastienyoutube692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how when you talk about the Godfather movies you never talk about the third one

  • @thewarrenwelsh
    @thewarrenwelsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this vid is giving me an out of body experience
    thank you

  • @SupahFans
    @SupahFans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazingly insightful. Thank you. Grrrreat job

  • @psreviews82
    @psreviews82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael’s reign was definitely more difficult than Vito’s. Vito’s time as Don was a time.. When the Corleone’s killed people, and no one killed them back.

  • @neerajchaudhary1821
    @neerajchaudhary1821 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude. A tremendous video. I will support you on Patreon. I thought I knew movies. I don't know jack.

  • @rtothec1234
    @rtothec1234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *YOU WON’T TAKE MY CHILDREN!*

  • @mahmudsultonmuratov9673
    @mahmudsultonmuratov9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was such a good video man

  • @aristotleonassis5792
    @aristotleonassis5792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Btw Vito did have to kill Fanucci because as it was pointed out that he lost his income and he then saw his son with pneumonia. This drove him to despair and kill the man that interfered with his new job and was a member of the Black Hand. Also, Michael shuts the door on Kay because he couldn’t forgive her for the abortion. Michael didn’t kill Pantangali as his suicide was arranged to protect his family name when he found out Michael didn’t try to assassinate him. Tom Hagen explains why during his talk with him in the army base.

    • @spcy2591
      @spcy2591 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That talk from Tom was Michael's way of killing Pentangelli. The story about the Romans was a thinly veiled threat to either kill himself for ratting or have his family be destroyed and left with no money.

    • @aristotleonassis5792
      @aristotleonassis5792 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sean Castro Yogi i didn’t say that. Pentangali was reminded how the system worked when the family was betrayed. His death was an indirect way of allowing his brother to survive. It was a smart move when Michael realised he survived the assassination and turned state witness. The main reason was to retract his statement first so the Corleone family could be cleared from the indictment.

  • @anthonylaudati
    @anthonylaudati 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please check out our three-part web series, "The Goddaughter", based on "The
    Godfather". It concerns the second daughter of Michael Corleone.
    Raised in Sicily, she comes to the U.S. to restore honor to the Corleone
    family.

  • @Thespeedrap
    @Thespeedrap 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's more like a prequel and sequel at the same time which is wonderful.

  • @mikequinn6273
    @mikequinn6273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The beginning and ending of Godfathers 1 and 2 are Sacraments in the Catholic Church, PT. 1 Begins with a Wedding and ends with a Baptism. PT.2 Starts with Anthony's First Communion and ends the Funeral of Mama Corleone. Also Fedo's execution while reciting the Rosary on a fishing boat is kinda symbolic. Heck everyone knows the killing of Hymen Roth was a nod to the real killing of Oswald by Jack Ruby.

    • @RobAGabor
      @RobAGabor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      First, thanks for pointing out that it was Anthony's First Communion, not his Christening. However, a funeral is not a Sacrament. Mrs. Corleone may have received the Anointing of the Sick, which happens before death, as long as they know that the person is going to die soon. In 3, Michael makes a confession and Tom's son is a priest, which means he received Holy Orders. So the only Catholic sacrament that wan't received by a member of the family was Confirmation.

  • @incognitosecret2377
    @incognitosecret2377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @JustUnjust
    @JustUnjust 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job , beautiful explanation. Cheers

  • @NamikazeNC
    @NamikazeNC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    beyond incredible analysis 🙌🏻