Legend of Zelda Clones for the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) Pt. 1

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    ZELDA CLONES ►This is Part 1 of my look at games for the Nintendo Entertainment System that are similar in gameplay or design to The Legend of Zelda. Here I'll be discussing what makes Legend of Zelda so iconic, and which NES games share qualities, take inspiration from, or are straight up ripping it off.
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    CONTENTS OF THIS VIDEO
    0:00 - Intro
    0:53 - What 8 Traits Make Zelda so Iconic?
    3:07 - Metroid
    4:02 - Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
    5:14 - Arkista's Ring
    6:40 - Robin Hood Prince of Thieves
    7:50 - Deadly Towers
    9:08 - Faria
    10:30 - Hydlide
    11:37 - Fester's Quest
    12:52 - Outro / Part 2
    After years of focusing on the best games for the NES, I decided to change gears and focus on lesser known cartridges that have, for one reason or another, generally escaped the public discussion and general nostalgia. This series highlights many of the relatively unknown, obscure, and unloved titles in the Nintendo Entertainment System's library. Some of these games are at best mediocre. Many are painfully bad, some of the worst NES games around. Most are hilarious for all the wrong reasons! Occasionally, OCCASIONALLY, a handful of them are actually good, borderline hidden gems.
    While you won't find any of these on the NES Classic, some of these titles have managed to make their way onto the Nintendo Switch, so if you don't have an original Nintendo console or ROMs escape you ethically or technologically, there are several ways to play them.
    Want more? Me too! Until then, lots of other articles where the pictures don't move and words have to be read can be found on my website: top100nesgames.com
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  • @BigOleWords
    @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    No matter how many times I remind myself, I have and probably always will continue to pronounce Arkista's Ring with an extra R. It's like how people call the local grocery chain Krogers instead of Kroger, it just sounds more natural to say it wrong. NO RAGRETS! :)

    • @RhizometricReality
      @RhizometricReality 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looking forward to the video on metroid clones.
      Please look into snes games too

    • @ragtimeryan1905
      @ragtimeryan1905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed.

    • @frankf684
      @frankf684 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People do that with Kroger here in SC as well,drives me nuts lol

    • @joezar33
      @joezar33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it just me or did he forget *Willow* was that game nothing like Legend of Zelda ?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joezar33 I talked about it in Part 2! th-cam.com/video/0LeXd_ecIIU/w-d-xo.html

  • @skulldaisygimp
    @skulldaisygimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    After diving back into some classic NES games thanks to the expanding library they've ported to the Switch, this kind of retrospective is just what I'm really looking to dig into. Thanks so much, looking forward to part 2!

  • @chrischristiansen6204
    @chrischristiansen6204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The real kicker in Deadly Towers as a kid was finding a dungeon, and then trying to map it. It was absurd.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that sounds tedious.

    • @dpgreene
      @dpgreene ปีที่แล้ว

      The 9 dungeons are like 300 rooms each. It’s just insane. I gave up mapping them pretty quickly.

    • @-Keith-
      @-Keith- ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dpgreene They're actually not too bad to map, but you have to know the trick to it - they're on a 16x16 grid but the boundaries wrap instead of being a hard boundary. So if you started with graphing paper and laid out a 16x16 square border, you could start with the first room in any position that you wanted and branch out the map from room to room, making sure to wrap to the other side of the square once you pass the edge.
      Sadly, 6 year old me didn't understand the concept of border wrapping and so my dungeon maps were multiple pages of graphing paper with repeating rooms.

  • @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
    @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I recently started delving into Faria. What I decided to do right off the bat although it's very boring and tedious was grind for about 3 days of playing outside the first town until I built myself up enough that I wasn't dying constantly.
    Yes emulation safe spots and online walkthroughs are a huge help!
    There are bosses in the dungeons

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah that’s exactly why I can’t get into it, I just don’t have the patience to grind it out! Does it get fun after that?

    • @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
      @asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigOleWords I have been enjoying it but it's definitely not for everyone. I probably could have started the actual game with less grinding & been ok, but as most I'm not big on bringing so I figured I'd get it out of the way early. It would be better if the imhit detection wasn't so weird. But I don't like turn based combat at all but like other aspects of RPGs, so it fills a niche that not a lot of NEE games do.

  • @koopakape
    @koopakape ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow.. I'm sitting here, in my 30s, having played, owned, rented, or borrowed untold dozens if not hundreds of NES games growing up, finding out about COUNTLESS more online in the last couple decades, and playing nearly all of them via emulation, virtual consoles, modern re-releases or however else possible, I'm at a point where I'm 100% positive I've played or at least know a good deal about EVERY single game ever released for the system in any region, and yet still, *STILL* I find brand new ones i've NEVER heard of, like Faria here... which despite your claims of how difficult it is I find myself kinda dying to try, considering how much I adore action-rpgs of any kind...
    Not only are you a really cool youtube channel that really takes me back to the good old early era of the platform when almost everyone was just people chillin' talking about retro games or whatever hobbies they have, which is super relaxing and nostalgic, but you're doing the impossible and showing me games that somehow to this day escaped my attention... good stuff man.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks for saying that! Faria is really hard and requires a very dedicated amount of grinding without taking damage. It may get really fun after that, but I haven’t pushed it any further.

    • @-Keith-
      @-Keith- ปีที่แล้ว

      Faria has a bell curve of fun. It starts off really hard and gets easier as you progress through the game and gain more weapons/abilities, but once you reach the ice caves and ice tower the difficulty gets dialed up to 11. Having a written guide is required to figure out the correct path to take in the ice maze (78 possible cave entrances to navigate, think Death Mountain from Zelda 2 but far worse). You need a flashlight and batteries to navigate the caves, and once your batteries run out the screen turns pitch black.

  • @Dewderonomy
    @Dewderonomy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Some of these games mixing real time combat with RPG mechanics reminds me of the NES game Venus Wars (based on the anime), which had tactical RPG elements mixed with racing combat for the battle scenes. Much like how most shooters today have XP systems and similar RPG elements, it's interesting to see how even in the 80s devs were trying to mix genres to create unique fusions of games they loved playing themselves.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting, I’ve never hear of Venus Wars! I’ll have to look into it.

  • @borismarcone6991
    @borismarcone6991 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I played fester's quest as a child and I finished it on my nes. Really hard until you upgrade your weapon and health bar. Hard and somewhat frustrating, but finishing it was very satisfying as I really felt badass for finishing such a hard game! Later, as a young adult (but still many years ago!), nostalgia came to me and I played it again on an emulator (my nes is gone due to a flooding :'( ) and I found that odd reset point too! I downloaded other roms and emulators and as far as I can understand this is really a bug that happens to many roms found online (possibly the same source shared over and over?) and there is no way around it; I finally found a rom that worked and that's it, I finished it again. Oh and yes, there are boss fights and they are quite cool IMHO, and quite hard especially the last one if you don't know what to do.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it happened to someone else, I was really confused!

    • @FingerinUrDaughter
      @FingerinUrDaughter ปีที่แล้ว

      i had an NES advantage, so festers quest was a breeze for me. i ran through the entire game with rapid fire on.

  • @exodous02
    @exodous02 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I passed Fester's Quest with save states. One of the most satisfying times i ever had with a game i could never beat as a kid.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that’s the only way to go with this game.

  • @youreallyplaythat
    @youreallyplaythat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fester's Quest always makes me smile.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re alone there ;)

  • @PumpkinPails
    @PumpkinPails ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a soft spot for Fester's Quest. Yes, the game play is dull and you can't use your weapons most of the time, but something about it is cozy as hell.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think if I had it back in the day I'd stick with it longer.

  • @Ruudos
    @Ruudos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I enjoyed Fester's Quest but I grew up with the PAL version which is the best version to play (it fixed some annoying issues compared to the NTSC version).
    The game does have dungeons, although they are in 3D and they do include a boss fight at the end.
    Don't know what happened to your game though when it reset to the title screen, never happened to me.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll have to check out the PAL version, I didn’t realize there was a difference!

    • @CROBobo
      @CROBobo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigOleWords Yes "R" is correct, def. check that shit out! the difference is night & day (All enemies and bosses take less hits for them to be killed, and
      the projectiles fired from the gun can go through walls and obstacles). I love your videos, keep it up.

    • @ErnoSallinen
      @ErnoSallinen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely check it out, it's a lot better!
      Here's a detailed video of the differences ->
      th-cam.com/video/eZc3S0gSEg0/w-d-xo.html

  • @GenerationPixel
    @GenerationPixel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Buddy, your passion for the NES and its library is phenomenal. Every time I finish one of your videos I ask, "surely he's run out of material on the NES now!" And every time there's another banger just around the corner. When I finally start dipping my toes into that wonderful system, at least I'll have a top class Sherpa to guide me through its wonders. Keep 'em coming my friend 😎👍

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha we’re still at base camp buddy! Plenty more climbs up NES mountain ahead.

  • @redline78inc1
    @redline78inc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My dad beat Fester’s Quest back in the day. It’s a brutal game but does have some cool boss fights.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn dude, just trying to make me feel old! ;)

    • @redline78inc1
      @redline78inc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BigOleWords hell I’m 43 he was in his 30’s when he played it

    • @redline78inc1
      @redline78inc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      By the way love your channel. Thinking of starting one with my kids as they love playing my old consoles more than the new ones.

  • @DadRacer
    @DadRacer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES! Haha Fester’s Quest! Excellent video, buddy. An incredibly entertaining watch. Nicely done!

  • @onemorequarter1087
    @onemorequarter1087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always appreciate a good clone. Excellent videos lately. Glad the dropped hard drive didn't set you back too much. Take care out there🤙

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks so much!

  • @LtCdrRoyFokker
    @LtCdrRoyFokker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised Willow wasn't mentioned. As a kid, I remember seeing the preview coverage in Nintendo Power magazine and thinking that was a super Zelda game. While the gameplay wasn't as polished, I'd still classify it as a Zelda clone.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's in part 2! th-cam.com/video/0LeXd_ecIIU/w-d-xo.html

  • @DrinkGameswithJosh
    @DrinkGameswithJosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video! Awesome Series! I remember sinking a lot of time into Festers Quest as a kid but never completing it. Played it more recently and know why. 😂 Gotta head over to check out part 2 now. 🤙🏻

  • @dientimuri3956
    @dientimuri3956 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having beaten Fester's Quest, I can attest that there are dungeons and boss fights. The boss designs and fights remind me strongly of Blaster Master.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Props to you, I never make it that far

  • @oldschoolgamesstories
    @oldschoolgamesstories 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always. Can’t wait for the second half. A few of these I hadn’t thought to compare to Zelda before. Now I’m waiting to see how your compare one of my all time favorites with Zelda.😁👊

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! These are definitely more subtle than the part two games for sure :)

  • @NoobixCube
    @NoobixCube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the most blatant Zelda-clone I ever played was a DOS game called God of Thunder. There are some screens which I think are tile for tile identical to screens in Link's Awakening and Link to the Past. The gameplay is a little different, because instead of a short pokey-stick sword, you have Mjolnir, which you can sling most of the way across the screen, and it returns to you. Despite the extremely basic Gauntlet style "run directly at the player" enemy AI, planning your throws added some complexity to the combat, because, while Mjolnir damages enemies on the way out and on the way back, you're defenseless while it's in flight.

    • @NoobixCube
      @NoobixCube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, as a 90s PC gamer, my first thought on Akista's Ring wasn't "oh, like Gauntlet", it was "oh, like Catacomb", but Catacomb is pretty clearly a clone of Gauntlet, in many ways.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That actually looks pretty interesting, thanks!

  • @funkalicious2002
    @funkalicious2002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just stumbled on your channel. Between the NES content and the Mr. Show sound bite in the title, I couldn’t sub fast enough

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Two of my favorite things right there!

  • @RaposaCadela
    @RaposaCadela 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:37 don't forget Rambo!

  • @feenix219
    @feenix219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Fester's Quest!
    There is a really nice improvement hack out there that solves a lot of those issues too.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve heard good things about that hack!

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Arkista's Ring is giving me some Gauntlet vibes.

  • @AdamSmithNES
    @AdamSmithNES ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really like your videos, just stumbled across your channel and subbed. Good stuff!

  • @happybeejv
    @happybeejv 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When i played landstalker i used to keep walking into the monsters because i forget it was different than ys

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Land stalker is probably the most frustrating platformer I can think of!

  • @white_meat_chicken
    @white_meat_chicken ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man! The algorithm just started recommending your channel to me, and I got to say, really good stuff so far! Keep up the good work - liked and subscribed!

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks so much, glad you dig it :)

  • @ChicagoRetroGamer
    @ChicagoRetroGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool! I know for me the coolest one is Star Tropics! I still haven't beaten it, but it is a fun one. Cheers and have a great weekend!

  • @ClassicGameSessions
    @ClassicGameSessions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very cool to see these Zelda-like games on the NES. Such a great series. Deadly Towers was indeed a turd - I remember my disappointment playing it (despite some cool artwork on the cover) back in the day!

  • @eversosleight
    @eversosleight ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait there are two parts to Zelda clones 😲 I didn't realize there were so many 🤔 But I'm glad to hear of all these 😁

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep! I think for future editions I’ll combine them into one long video

  • @feenix219
    @feenix219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neutopia for the TG16 is the most Zelda-like clone ANYWHERE.

  • @GoodVibeCollecting
    @GoodVibeCollecting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting, I never considered Fester's Quest to be a Zelda clone but the more I think about it, the similarities are there. Also that game is brutal as it has no checkpoints in the game until you get to the last area.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the games in this video are more subtle Zelda clones than the ones in part 2 for sure. I’ll have to take your word for it on the last area!

  • @soundspark
    @soundspark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fester's Quest does have boss fights once you find a building with a pseudo-3D maze.
    I don't think I've had the game reboot when entering the building.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Might've just been a freak thing.

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigOleWords Or perhaps either a poor connection or a faulty mapper chip.

  • @xRussianbishop
    @xRussianbishop ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The US release festers quest had a glitch when up grading the gun it was to be way more powerful if you played on a EU ver you got what it was meant to be and was lot more fun because it wasn't a slog to just move about

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve heard people say the PAL version was much better and that makes sense why!

    • @xRussianbishop
      @xRussianbishop ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigOleWords Thanks for responding . but yeah like maxed out gun for the US did like only 4 damage where the PAL did 8 there was also a timer on the health of the US enemies each where you had a small time limit to get the next hit it or else the enemy would get all of its health back.

  • @WhiteHat94
    @WhiteHat94 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you do a Zelda 2 one, Rambo is a must include. I'd say Ghoul School and Stanley potentially as well

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! I wouldn’t have considered either if them for the Zelda 2 discussion…

  • @gullpayne
    @gullpayne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great selection here 👍

  • @camouflage81
    @camouflage81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fester's quest has some amazing music though! I heard that the guy programming it got sick of it and just finnished it sloppily just to get it over with.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      That would explain a lot!

  • @onionhat745
    @onionhat745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm like one of the few people who likes Fester's Quest. The levels aren't nearly so laborious after the first.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard that it gets easier and that the Euro version is way more streamlined, but I can't stick with it.

  • @tootyuk
    @tootyuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great watch Ole

  • @thrillretrogamer9801
    @thrillretrogamer9801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so glad I found your channel... great channel...

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks so much :)

  • @NESADDICT
    @NESADDICT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh I’ll check it out

  • @phenylphenol
    @phenylphenol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have loved to see The Guardian Legend mentioned here; it's just about the best Zelda-like game for the NES.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Part two! Legend of Zelda Clone Games for the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) Pt. 2
      th-cam.com/video/0LeXd_ecIIU/w-d-xo.html

  • @TheAtariSan
    @TheAtariSan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subbed, hope you feature Ys for part 2, i love Nihon Falcom Corporation game. Ys Origin was awesome. I will probably need to replay it with the hack to have Adol's route.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm probably just sticking to the NES for now but at some point :)

  • @bluestrife28
    @bluestrife28 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guardian Legend has to be high up in the Zelda clones, at least for me. Complex dungeons paired with increasingly hard shmups, a lot of fun items and things to do. My grandpa beat this game while I just watched in awe.
    And that soundtrack still bangs ❤️

  • @housethegrate6093
    @housethegrate6093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neutopia 2 is my favorite Zelda clone. I played a demo at Incredible Universe and loved it so much that my parents got us a Turbo Express for Christmas.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn, you had a Turbo Express?! That’s the holy grail right there!

  • @DemoOrange
    @DemoOrange ปีที่แล้ว +1

    metroid just got explained like mega man

  • @djachmedd
    @djachmedd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You really know your shit man! Would be fun if you slide in some homebrews in this series in the future, like easter eggs or whatnot

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From what I’ve seen, there are a ton of solid zeldaesque home brews out there. I don’t have a ton of experience with them honestly, but it is an area of the NES I’d like to become more familiar with for sure :)

    • @djachmedd
      @djachmedd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigOleWords yeah, some of them are mindblowing. Lookin forward to the superdelayed game full qiet for example, that one will probably be worth the loooong wait. Check it out

  • @RetroMitch
    @RetroMitch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think Deadly Towers doesn't get the respect it deserves. Great controls, the ability to pick up defense armor, boots, and faster weapons. It's a grind at the beginning, it definitely has some difficulty, but I definitely think once you get the idea of your goal, it becomes much better.

  • @danbauer3669
    @danbauer3669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fester's Quest seems to be the most popular one in the comments here. That's the only one I have other than those mentioned in the intro. I always liked Addams Family better, but I never beat either one. I don't hate Fester's Quest. It just takes more patience than most people are willing to give it thanks to our collective idiotic short attention spans.

  • @versustherest
    @versustherest 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought Fester's Quest back then so I...finished it...yes...it was painful but a real challenge.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Props to you!

  • @retroprojections
    @retroprojections 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video! I love the Zelda Scale, brilliant! Are you planning on expanding to Zelda clones on other consoles, or are you just sticking to the NES library?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are some good ones out there! That’s tough though. I really like the collecting part of these videos and while I have games like Beyond Oasis and Crusader of Centy, I’m too gun shy to spend the money on consoles I’m not as into like Golden Axe Warrior or Neutopia I and II. All of those are really fun though, so maybe!

    • @retroprojections
      @retroprojections 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BigOleWords I feel ya there. A lot of these games are in the "if you haven't gotten them already, you're out of luck," realm. Either way you go, I'm sure it will be good. Thanks

  • @Dug88
    @Dug88 ปีที่แล้ว

    For zelda 2 clones there's also Stanley: the search for Dr. Livingston.

  • @JaceyMitchell
    @JaceyMitchell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually really like Fester's Quest, but it's got to be the PAL version. It fixes the hit detection issues, and bullets pass through walls in the PAL version instead if being absorbed by them. It really makes the game much more fun and playable.

  • @danatello8489
    @danatello8489 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I'm curious though, any reason you didn't specifically list medieval/fantasy elements as one of your criteria? Is that because it's not a gameplay element and more of a content element?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmmm I don't know if ever really thought of Zelda as fantasy! I mean it is clearly but I never made the connection!

  • @aaronmarko
    @aaronmarko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you wanna get anal about things, TECHNICALLY Metroid was originally referred to as "search action" which is something that would definitely allow you to put Metroid and Zelda under the same banner as. Which is cool since they're both dissimilar but oddly specific in terms of design.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man I love that term “search action”. Perfect!

  • @mjrleaguesweetie
    @mjrleaguesweetie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like I’m the only person who liked Deadly Towers as a kid

  • @Frogdoddofficial
    @Frogdoddofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played crystalis before zelda and i remember being like "wtf they ripped off crystalis?!" 😂 ah to be a kid again.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha sounds like something I would’ve said!

  • @francisreuter6294
    @francisreuter6294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you can't get far maybe checking some speed runs just to see if it fits in the way you think and may save you some time as well

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do for sure depending on what I’m trying to get out of it!

  • @Dedicatedtolivinginthepast
    @Dedicatedtolivinginthepast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got my copies of Faxanadu and Fester's quest in the mail today And Hydlide is one of the few NES games I have beaten nice to see some of those games here! also Deadly Towers for the win!

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow dude really rounding out the collection! Faxanadu rules!

    • @Dedicatedtolivinginthepast
      @Dedicatedtolivinginthepast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigOleWords I have been playing it a ton and I have been enjoying it here is my Password to see how far I am (Assuming You will bother to put it in)
      y4o4gQskCABoQhCBg

  • @TheOneTrueMaNicXs
    @TheOneTrueMaNicXs ปีที่แล้ว

    So 2 things frist try the EU version of festers quest, second on hydlyde you have to use defend mode to attack until you level up.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard that the PAL Fester is much better. One day...

  • @infernicide666
    @infernicide666 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the flying blue things in Deadly Towers supposed to be?

  • @WoodenLegStudios
    @WoodenLegStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m guessing you are also in the Atlanta area given the 5 stripes flag in background. I got season tickets and go to all their games

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yessir! Also a season ticket holder, see you and 50000 people on Saturday ;)

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doesn't Hydlide actually predate The Legend of Zelda? So if anything, Zelda improved on what Hydlide was trying to establish.

  • @josephbradshaw6985
    @josephbradshaw6985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had Deadly Towers as a kid. Played the bajeezus out of it. Got nowhere. I beat Zelda, Zelda II, Contra (no death), Rad Racer, Metroid...I only beat one boss in DT. The bear guy.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think i made it through one tower. The game does get easier once you leave the opening section, but not anymore fun!

  • @saintocamus
    @saintocamus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Festers Quest is fun! :)

  • @CassiusStelar
    @CassiusStelar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Theres way more Zelda 2 clones out there than the 2 on NES. For example, Golden Axe on Game Gear, and the Gargoyle's Quest series on game boy and SNES

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the Gargoyle's Quest on NES?

    • @CassiusStelar
      @CassiusStelar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigOleWords it got ported?

  • @robintst
    @robintst ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like a good many awful game on the NES, sometimes the only redeeming thing is their cover art. Deadly Towers ticks that box, I love that painting.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s pretty amazing! I actually talked about it in this video about bad games with great covers: th-cam.com/video/lXBhPAOIHW8/w-d-xo.html

  • @mudsh4rk
    @mudsh4rk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Technically, Zelda is a Hydlide clone if anything. Hydlide on MSX was a few years ealier.

  • @PM-xc8oo
    @PM-xc8oo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you're willing to deal with some early grind, Faria is actually pretty good though that is a big "if" I realize.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've tried a few times and cannot make it past the first dungeon. One day!

  • @phenylphenol
    @phenylphenol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good Zelda-like is Willow.

  • @electricmastro
    @electricmastro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:27 I feel that Addams Family Values would be the more interesting take from Sunsoft, on SNES. Have you played that one?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not!

    • @electricmastro
      @electricmastro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigOleWords At the very least, it's less cluttered and has more open space than Fester's Quest does, so I think it would be more favorable regardless. lol

  • @billny33
    @billny33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, why isn't Crystalis here?
    EDIT: Then I realized the title said "Part 1"

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah now when I do these videos I try to make them into one video because I'm not a big fan of splitting the content, but this one was way to long. I'm learning though!

    • @billny33
      @billny33 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigOleWords all good. And when I did find your Crystalis entry, you did say it was probably the truest Zelda clone on the system and one of the best overall games. I was pretty happy with that. Had a great experience with that game as a kid back when nobody else knew what the hell it was.

  • @Komory
    @Komory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I was hoping you would mention Faxanadu, and you kinda did, just to say you don't... I still love that game, Faxanadus soundtrack is so awsome. If you gonna make a Zelda 2 video you should talk about the first Castlevania, as Zelda 2 is inspired by it, or a clone itself :). Also since you only mention NES games, no Golvellius I guess, but it is a Zelda clone that's actually fun to play.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Faxanadu is one of my all time favorite games so I’ll definitely discuss it at some point :)

  • @Djwunmoshen
    @Djwunmoshen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does that house makes you reset? Is that a debugger coding issue? Or a in game glitch? I enjoy Festers Quest. But that bs is wild

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, it's funny that you mentioned Metroid to begin with, because according to the late Gunpei Yokoi, Metroid was both inspired by, and took elements from Super Mario Bros and The Legend of Zelda... So, Nintendo essentially ripped off their own games. Lol
    But as a massive Metroid fan, I'm glad they did it.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure. It definitely has that spirit but with it's own twists.

  • @TheWarmotor
    @TheWarmotor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fester's Quest is a LOT easier with a NES Advantage with the turbo attack tuned just right. Once you get the difficulty down it's not a bad game, I remember having a blast with it when I was a kid - in fact, my whole family would gather around to trade off and watch the gameplay. Misunderstood gem in my book.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That does sound way easier and more fun considering how much shooting was required to kill anything! Honestly though, I can’t really get into the Max or the Advantage. Never quite feels right!

    • @TheWarmotor
      @TheWarmotor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigOleWords Did you have arcade games in your town when you were a kid?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheWarmotor Yep! You mean like if I could play arcade games with a joystick why not the Advantage?

    • @TheWarmotor
      @TheWarmotor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigOleWords Basically. I've been binging your content and you've noted that the only place to get games near your home as a kid was basically a big gas station, I was thinking maybe it was a major drive to the nearest arcade games and you may not have spent a lot of time playing them vs your home console?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheWarmotor I don't remember mentioning a gas station! I grew up in a big city so we had the usual Kaybee/Toys R Us/Blockbuster kind of spots to buy and rent games. We had arcade games everywhere, but I can only really think of arcade specific place back in the day. For sure mostly played at home or at other friend's houses though.

  • @thisisJim85
    @thisisJim85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hydlide was fun after I got older

  • @grrsss8335
    @grrsss8335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the scale is less about how good the game is and more about how close it is to the original zelda?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha yep! Although as the similarities to Zelda increase it also tends to mean the game is better :)

  • @mpixel2058
    @mpixel2058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't believe you missed the first person maze sections of Fester's Quest.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t say “missed”!

  • @roark5t6
    @roark5t6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about looking at Final Fantasy clones?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps! My only trouble with the old rpgs is time and grinding. Like just to get footage for all the Dragon Warriors would take forever!

  • @Famikompisar
    @Famikompisar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could argue that Turtles is a Zelda 2 clone. And if you want to include some Famicom in that video I would recommend Getsu fuuma den. Great game!

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man I’m scared to bring Famicom into all this. Like opening a door I cannot close!

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:20 That sound is nowhere near as obnoxious as the low health warning from either Metroid 1 (NES) or Pokémon on the GameBoy (by far the worst, IMHO).

  • @feenix219
    @feenix219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Battle of Olympus, Faxanadu and Zelda 2 belong in the same category as Rygar. They are all Metroid-ajacent.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I think whenever I get to the next clones video I’ll do Zelda 2 and Metroid together

    • @feenix219
      @feenix219 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigOleWords blaster master, ufouria, legacy of the wizard, adventure island 4.....and then bridging back to megaman are games like bionic commando and strider.

  • @dpgreene
    @dpgreene ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rambo is a Zelda 2 clone!

  • @tunamcstinkmuffin8234
    @tunamcstinkmuffin8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should have more subs, love your content

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha not as much as I love that username!

  • @toddhouchin3252
    @toddhouchin3252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Faria is so good and soooo very difficult.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really should sit down with it and push through, but man it’s insane

    • @toddhouchin3252
      @toddhouchin3252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BigOleWords Even if you get maps from an FAQ, it's super tough. The GaoGao name/password is there for a leg up, though! I drew maps for the first two dungeons, which I might still have in a middle school notebook.

  • @eddiejravannen
    @eddiejravannen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are they clones, or just different entries in the same genre? Are all jrpg's clones of final fantasy?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean I'm using the word pretty loosely here, but yeah many of them are directly basing their design off of a specific game. And I would absolutely argue that most early Jrpgs were merely working off the Dragon Warrior formula.

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Calling Hydlide a Zelda clone is like calling Coke a Pepsi clone. Hydlide predates Zelda by _two years(!)_ which is impressive.

  • @timmoore2496
    @timmoore2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Play the NES game I made! : t-bone1.itch.io/deth-complex

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anything for Thulsa Doom!

    • @timmoore2496
      @timmoore2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BigOleWords Send him to the Tree of Woe!

  • @dpgreene
    @dpgreene ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn’t Zelda more of a Hydlide clone (which is in turn a Tower of Druaga clone)? While NES Hydlide came out ridiculously late in the US it was an early famicom title in Japan a port of an even older JP PC game.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      It does predate Zelda for sure. I think my point with this was more games similar to Zelda more than direct clones (although a lot of these are total ripoffs). “Clones” was just the easiest descriptor.

    • @eddiek6390
      @eddiek6390 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I am pretty sure the "official" story of Zelda and Zelda 2 is a lie. Zelda is a Hydlide clone with better combat and Zelda 2 is a Xanadu clone, again, with better combat. They just didn't want to admit that they were just cloning successful games, so they created the "official" story.

  • @DanielSong39
    @DanielSong39 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is Star Tropics
    That's the first game I thought of

  • @jeffcox6539
    @jeffcox6539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't zelda similar to other games on the Commodore?

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm I don’t know! I’m honestly not very familiar with the Commodore.

  • @GigTube
    @GigTube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn't consider Metroid a Zelda clone at all, They were developed at more less the same time so it's not like Metroid was inspired by Zelda's success. And Metroid is action-oriented whereas Zelda is more about strategy. Metroid isn't as much of a sandbox/open world either, the game is pretty good at nudging you in the right direction.
    Fester's Quest was essentially a re-hash of Blaster Master (well at least the sewer levels). I had that game as a kid and I forced myself to get through it... I think. Difficult game to beat without the game genie.
    I hope part 2 includes The Guardian Legend and Metal Gear.
    Add Rambo to your Zelda 2 clone list (at least certain parts)

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see what you mean, but it’s not really about when it was developed as games like Hydlide predate Zelda. More just about similar elements than anything.

  • @Slybo
    @Slybo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you think Faria's combat is cute. Go play S-Word of Vermilion on the Sega Genesis.
    Then come back and tell me how much you more you want to see that s**t in old school RPGs.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Man it’s been a while since I’ve played Vermillion!

  • @TeskeTheArse
    @TeskeTheArse ปีที่แล้ว

    I really don't think it's fair to lump hydlide as a clone, considering it came out on home computers many years before Zelda. I guess you could say Zelda sort of cloned it but did all the elements correctly.

  • @JoeyJ0J0
    @JoeyJ0J0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hydlide was made before Zelda for Japanese consoles before it came to America

  • @LycanWitch
    @LycanWitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You made an error. Hydlide is not a Zelda clone, rather Zelda is a clone of Hydlide. Hydlide predates the release of Legend of Zelda by two years as it was released in 1984 (not on it's NES port however which was released 1986, same year as Zelda). Instead you should have given a special mention to Hydlide at the end, and how Legend of Zelda was either influenced by or ripped it off, especially it's gameplay/screen transitions, etc, but how Zelda vastly improved upon and is far superior to it.

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct in that Hydlide came out first. My point with this series is just to highlight other games that are close in gameplay or design to some of the more famous NES titles.

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beyond Oasis GREATTT GAME

  • @josephbradshaw6985
    @josephbradshaw6985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Figure out where to go, games.

  • @scottwilson3741
    @scottwilson3741 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hydlide & Festers Quest were truly the drizzling shits

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s an expression that’s new to me!

    • @scottwilson3741
      @scottwilson3741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigOleWords I learned it as a professional wrestler many moons ago. It could be used 2 describe anything from a really bad match 2 just a bad punch. The Dirty White Boy,(don't expect u 2 know who that is) was talking about somebody's punches or maybe a move the did, but he sd, "it looked the drizzling shits & it hurt like dammit"

    • @BigOleWords
      @BigOleWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottwilson3741 hahaha