Wait. She’s only been out for two years!?!?! After not only being born into a cult, but being directly controlled by the LEADER of the cult! She’s an amazing person. Wow
All forms of communication should be forbidden for Warren Jeffs. This continuing abuse could only happen in the US! A compete mess. You’re in great form, Shelise!
If WJ is using communication to commit a crime then it would be legally justified to limit or restrict communication or visits with certain individuals. Crimes would include: human trafficking, child abuse, witness tampering, financial crimes etc. It may even be a good idea to let WJ continue visits and communication to investigate and build a case against him.
I almost shed a few tears when she started talking about her new fiancée and showed the ring, you can see the true happiness in her eyes. I am so happy for her, thank you for sharing
Yes. There are decent loving authentic men in this world who don't abuse women and children. I am happy for her because I am a mature man who despises all those domineering narcissists and egoistical jerks.
Interesting that he believed she didn't want children, yet made her a full time caregiver for the children. Either it was some sort of twisted punishment by giving her the opposite of what he believed she wanted... or he knew she wanted children and he was rubbing her face in the one thing he refused to give to her.
@@Charity-vm4btYour post starts out merely didactic and even a little compassionate. When you say the children must repent for the sins of the parents you sound like a cultist. The children are abused, punished, banished, and of course, are groomed to carry on the work of grooming the next generation. The fact that this strong intelligent woman took five isolated years hoping to redeem herself from the sin (falsely accused) of DREAMING (f'goshen sake!) before making a change just shows how dangerous such coercive control can be. I cannot stomach your assertion that children need to repent for past generations.
She is still so traumatized that diesnt realize that the fact he rejected to have children with him, was probably one of the best things hapoen to her!
But, sometimes having children is such a deep need inside your soul that anyway it happens is fulfilling. She was also a loving person who worked with children for years.
@@ernestomenendez9307 Yes, she came from three generations of plygm’y going back to Jos. Smith. Her mother was one of many wives and Aida was the youngest of ten, the only females. She saw her own mother for brief periods only. She probably never bonded with any maternal person in a deep way. The children of any of these unions had minimal contact with their biological fathers. No male role models, no parental bonding.
That's dismissive and rude for you to decide for her whether or not having children-even his-wouldn't have been better. As someone who could not have children despite trying, I'm going to guess it would be very hurtful if she read it. I hope she didn't and never does. Many other Jeffs wives had children and are happy to have them, no matter how they got those children. My father was abusive, and my mother does not regret one bit that she had us, no matter the cost.
@@MaidMirawynnot really dismissive. Her exhusband raped his own daughter. Who would want to bring children to a man like that? Anyone can see the previous circumstances were horrible. High control religion by a molesting religious psychopath.
Definitely and this is a demonstration of how that innate goodness can not only get us through such unnatural and traumatic times, it can also help others. Actually, I’m going to call that ‘innate goodness’, feminine power from now on 💪🏽 I think the guys got it wrong, God is definitely more of the feminine energy ~ it’s the strongest yet also the gentlest and most loving ❤ we rock 🤩
@@CultstoConsciousnessLove that comment Miriam!!! Very proud of Ada/Amy!!! Blessings on her new loving life!! You deserve such happiness! (Writing a book? I will buy it.)
So many of these rule seem like something was annoying him in the moment and he would just say it was a sin. Wife #56 and 45 wants to take 16 kids to botanical gardens….geee that’s expensive….ummm “Hey lady’s we shouldn’t give outsiders money because they will sin with it, so its sinful to help them sin.” “Oh wow never thought about it like that, I guess we will have PJB sandwich and walk down to the creek again”
So incredible, Ada. From someone who grew up in Provo Ut (as a non-Mormon) and worked with FLDS, you are incredibly courageous to break away. Deprogramming and reprogramming takes a very very long time but your heart is overflowing through your eyes and words. Keep it up sister!!
Former FLDS here. When we went to dedicate all our stuff at the storehouse, they made us bring our children along and we brought our children into the storehouse and "gave" them to the lord and church also.
@@CultstoConsciousnessIt has the potential to be way more than symbolic if Jeffs has the power to just move kids around, give and take spouses and such. I got a chill when I read that and thought about the trafficking victims who have given up their passports to someone they thought they could trust. Not sure if you'll read this at this late date, but thanks for the amazing work you do. So much heart and soul as well as the grind of the labor, I'm sure!
Awesome interview. Her comment on being fiscally out for 3 years but only mentally out for 2 hits home pretty hard. I decided I was done about 3 months ago and it is a big pill to swallow. I don't feel like I was born into a cult but whatever the flds has turned into in the last 20 to 25 years definitely fits the description pretty dam close.
Ada Marie / Amy's story is fascinating and heartbreaking. I'm sorry you went through that but am so happy that you are now happy and loved and with your family! Thank you for being so vulnerable in sharing your story. Let's hope some other ladies who are stuck in the FLDS can see your story and get themselves free. Congratulations on your engagement!
Yep. He should have zero communication of any sort with the outside world. People need to be able to see the light and true love. They live in fear and guilt their entire lives.
It's not the prison's fault. Let's clear that up. There are certain rights prisoners are afforded, including contact with family, friends, attorneys, clergy, etc., otherwise an organization called the "American Civil Liberties Union" will sue the state of Texas who runs the prison. They monitor the rights of prisoners among other annoying things and can cause a lot of trouble! Warren Jeffs passes messages through his family. If anything, blame them!
Normal people avoid court because it's extremely detrimental to health (via stress and anxiety). Antisocial personalities (including cult leaders) do not feel these emotions as deeply, if at all, which allows them to use the court process itself as a weapon.
The act of taking you to court is a victory to them in itself, as the court naturally assumes good faith on their part and forces you to address any allegation they wish to throw at you as if it were legitimate. The technical term for this behavior is "narcissistic triangulation". Of course in theory, perjury is illegal, but in practice, the courts and prosecutors protect it.
So no, laws won't help, as @Exiled.New.Yorker points out, they already exist. The problem is with the system itself, that in practice there is no penalty against lying in court (other than possibly losing your case), and abusers take advantage of this because they don't need to win the case to beat you. There's nothing special about your case, I've seen it happen so many times to so many others.
@@gunt-her After 5 years torture in the court, without lawyer, job, money, I won the case . I defended myself by writing letters to the court. They appealed the verdict and now I'm waiting for the decision of the second-instance court. I am in europe Croatia.
Your interviews always amaze me. To see how many years the cult control can destroy lives and the resilience of some people are incredibly moving. Thank you.
He is such a despicable, disgusting man! I feel so sorry for ALL of his victims. It is frightening to consider how easily virtually anybody can be manipulated. His victims were conditioned and berated for years into believing absolutely everything he said. 😢
To be fair, he too was manipulated and groomed from birth and if you look at the history and the cycles of this group, it’s clear what he was groomed for. He was like a lamb to the slaughter. It doesn’t excuse what he did etc and he had to be brought to an end but he was as brain washed and manipulated as all the rest of them 😢 but thank god some of them are healing from the trauma and becoming inspirations to us ❤
The best part is when we got to see her happy and know she’s with her mom and that she was engaged, and you were so cute when you giggled and said “fiancé” and she showed her ring. So happy for her. She deserves to be happy. ❤️
Ada Marie I don’t think I’ve been quite so touched by any other guest. Your kindness and caring come through the screen. I’m so excited for you on your new adventure into a loving marriage and continuing to redeem some of the time that was stolen from you and your mom! Sending you all the love. 😊
That is the best Linda Listen, because it helps everybody 💓 Ada Marie is such an inspiration for good, and a clear demonstration of how that innate goodness can be used against us, but it can also be used as a healing power. People who don’t watch videos on here are missing out on so much, not least the inspiration these ladies, men and children, including hosts, bring us 💞🙌🏽🌟
You are so brave to come out and talk about all these things that happened, that you saw, and you experienced. I wish you the best and true happiness for the rest of your life. I hope that other wives and people that were mixed up in all this mess will feel safe to come forth and tell their stories as well and heal from the trauma. I feel so bad for the people who are still there and still believe, and I can only hope that some day they too will realize the lies and also break free.
I'm so happy for her❤. Please let her know she should write a book. I'd definitely buy it. Her story has been more informative than any other one I've heard anywhere
I watched all of the episodes of GUIP with Ada Marie and now both here, and her story is riveting but what struck me even more is how positively GLOWING she is here especially when talking about her fiancé and reuniting with her family. Congratulations and you so deserve this happiness! ❤
Absolutely love your Linda listen moment! Empathy is what leads us to compassion and understanding each other. Wishing you only the best things in your future!❤
Ada Marie!! Congrats on your engagement & this new chapter of life!! Enjoy it all, you deserve all the joy & peace you can get! Thank you for telling your story, it has been wonderful to get the perspective from a former wife of Warren & see how it was in his specific family, even though I know it was hard to experience at the time! This is valuable insight into how things were/are run by him. Sending all the best wishes your way ❤
Congratulations on your engagement Ada Marie❣️Your story will help so many others!!!! Wishing you joy and peace and individual sovereignty ❤Love that you and your Mother are reunited❣️
Thank you for sharing your story. So much respect for all you have accomplished and for your kind and non-judgmental attitude towards people. Hats off to you!
Both episodes with Ada Marie are so full and interesting. Thank you very much, ladies, for sharing your stories ❤ i am so happy you are on a better path now ❤
I am so incredibly proud of Ada Marie! She's accomplished so much in such a short amount of time, and I admire how tenacious and resourceful she has been, both inside and out of the FLDS. She has endured so much, but her strength and optimism are amazing, and she shows a lot of wisdom in my opinion. She clearly has taken all the good and bad of her life, and spun gold out of it. I'm so happy she was able to reconnect with family members, that they were full of love and kindness for her, and that she had such wonderful people on the outside to help her. And now she's engaged! She's getting the love she has deserved. Warren Jeffs didn't deserve any woman (That gross man didn't even deserve a pile of mud), and he had such a gem in Ada Marie, and took such advantage her. I'm so glad that she's now free, and able to have everything and do everything she has wanted and always deserved.
This story is so sad 😞 I prayer for full recovery and happiness with life now. One of my brothers is LDS in Utah my family has been shunned for 35 or more years now we do not believe in the faith he follows. It’s heartbreaking I’ve never met any nieces and nephews I think there was 6 of them and probably married now. It’s so wrong if a religion makes you leave or separate the family god wouldn’t want that.
being shunned in the LDS church is not a doctrine, in fact it's wrong, most people that leave the LDS church of course disappoint their families, and most people distance themselves from their family and friends, it's not the family that does it, but they project in their mind that it is the family. I am not saying that some family members get hurt and then try to make the person feel guilty, of course that happens, but in following Christ in the LDS church, we don't shun people like the many accounts given by ex JW's, that isn't happening, that word shun is used now though
@@donnavaughn9409 Whether it is supposed to happen or not, it does. I know ex-LDS (not FLDS) who have been shunned by their families. They refuse to associate with their kids and their kids' families unless they return to the church, and won't go to events like birthday parties, showers, weddings, and graduations. The parents make every conversation about returning to the church and doctrine, and cut off the convo if they won't discuss it, then won't respond for months.
@@MaidMirawyn it is the person leaving that distances them self, and then projects that on their family and friends. Any sane member is not going to try to shame the person all the time, sure they are hurt, but I guarantee, it's the person who ha left that makes it difficult. It is very, very rare that a parent, spouse of sibling would act the way you described, I say this because I know people who have left, I know their families and I know how it all play out.
Ada Marie, you are a brave, beautiful women--a person of integrity and clarity. What a journey you've had. I have enormous respect for people such as yourself who have grown up in such controlling circumstances, brainwashed from birth essentially, and can find their way out and make a new life for themselves, also educating others about what they endured. I wish you happiness, blessings, and peace. Shelise, as always, you shine as an interviewer. Kudos and love to you both.
Ada, I have tears of joy listening to the end of this. Your strength and resilience is inspiring, and I love seeing how beauty is coming out of the ashes for you. Thank you for sharing.
I have watched both episodes and I was desperate to hear that she had found a true and genuine love. There must have been enormous revelations about the outside world and to hear the 'Linda listen' moment be 'no judgement' was wonderful. I'm sure re-connecting with your family went a long way in soothing your soul, and my only wish for you is to be able to sit with your fiancé and eat as much ice cream as you want! Thank you for being so open with your story ❤
It's so scary Warren gets to do this from prison. I sure hope Chad Daybell doesn't get this sick privilege. Keep sharing your story Amy, you are loved and supported.
oh my goodness girl.. so proud of you. you are very strong. takes a lot of courage to leave something like that and to also speak your truth. that man is sick and im so glad he is in prison.
Shelise! Your guests are always so beautiful and resilient. Truly wisdom and strength can come from hard environments. I'm so proud for Ada for blazing her own path ❤
I learned so much watching this interview! Ada broke down the emotional control and mind control that the church, and many churches do to women. She found her way out!! Ada you are so beautiful and I'm so happy for you as you start your new life in a real marriage. I'm touched by your strength and perseverance. Thank you for telling your story.
The beautiful woman is an inspiration to us all. I have heard her story on growing up in polygamy and then a story from here it's beyond captivating. I just want to send her so much love.
Her correcting the language of the questions reminded me so much of the responsibility I had to manage the public image of my abuser. I had so much hesitation, concern, and perfectionism in the language around him or anything he did. I found myself correcting others in the exact same way. It took a fellow survivor pointing out that I didn’t have to manage his image as I deconstructed and healed from everything.
I understand your comment and I'm sure she's relieved that Warren is out of her life!! And I am not commenting this out of buyt-hurt - there is no point in being offended about an non-existing child. But I, and many with me, have children with an extremely abusive man. The children are not their father and they are no less lovable or precious because of their father. I wouldn't trade my child for anything even though its father has put us through hell and still tries to do so. I just wanted to point that out. I love my child above anything and so does my husband. I am sure Ann Mari/Amy would love her children regardless of their father. But yes, ideally one would like to have children with a good father in the first place. The genes take nothing away from the kids though ❤
Such a lovely ending or new beginning for such a brave lady. Congratulations may your life be just full of peace and happiness from now on! If those still following Warren could only see this ladys truth. Amazing riveting and well done. From Ireland. CC
Bless you Ada!!!!❤🎉 Your story is difficult to listen to without cringing. Thank you for sharing anyway. It needs to be out there. Your bravery is inspiring. Sending love!! Don't give up.
Oh my goodness, after listening to both episodes and hearing her story, I adore her so much. She is so smart and you can just feel her vulnerability through her words and I have so much compassion for her. Definitely enjoyed hearing her life and knowing she reconnected with her family ❤
What a sweet woman & absolutely beautiful from the inside & out. Her fiancé is a very lucky man & I’m sure he knows that. Congratulations on your upcoming marriage & I hope you are so proud of yourself for getting out of that cult & away from that nasty predator. I hope you & your husband go on to live long, healthy & happy lives together💜💜
Ada Marie - You are so capable af creating your own path and I'm sure you'll continue to bring many good things to other people's lives! Many hapoy times ahead to you and your family. ❤
I can’t believe nowadays a prisoner can have social media platforms and be in contact with those who were hurt by their actions. I’ve seen TH-cam channels where they’re allowed to post videos from the prisons! TH-cam has been slacking IMO. Anyone in prison shouldn’t ever have this privilege whatsoever.
I have to disagree on this one. Lots of people are imprisoned who are falsely accused or issues of questionable legality or for even protesting on behalf of their other rights. Regardless, the only thing that makes a free country is free speech. Victims need to get help for themselves so they no longer pursue these types of toxic relationships. There are always plenty more outside the prison and the same mentality of the victims won't get erased by cancelling some other person's right to free speech.
That constant question of was I good enough or why wasn’t I good enough. So simple yet what a huge effect it had on your life and thoughts and feelings. It’s incredible how damaging this type of constant questioning can be. You have such a sweet spirit that shines through these videos. Thank you for sharing your story and your honesty is just glorious. So excited you are engaged! Enjoy all the love.
Thank you Ada Marie, for sharing such troubling, traumatic, personal experiences. I'm sure it is exhausting and we appreciate you. I need to share, for any survivor of relational trauma/abuse, that there is no "rule". We think there is one, because we are the rational person analyzing what happened to us, desperate to find meaning and order, in the hopes of moving past it. We don't move past it. We move through it, building up post traumatic growth as we go, if we are lucky. If we get lost in the story, we get stuck in trauma responses. Freeing ourselves from that is healing. The abuser creates a set of rules and we follow. They are able to convince us to do so by grooming us when we are small, before we can protect ourselves (for me, my parents, for cults, the parents of children are and then they groom the children, whether they mean to or not). No rule has to make sense anymore, they have hooked us into whatever narrative. But the rule is described and people follow it. Some are unable to. Maybe they have a stronger sense of self or they are just unable to do whatever it is. The abuser knows that if they punish some and not others, the confusion that follows will further bind followers to them. Division is sown amongst the followers, never ascribing the wrongs to the abuser, only to each other. This destroys collective resistance, leaving those who break away alone and the rest trapped, still. I'm 47 years old and come from a large family. We did not follow a religion. We instead, were seen as pillars of an arts-based subculture. I spent most of my life trying to understand why my siblings and I were treated differently for breaking the same rule or what it meant to my abuser in the first place to enact said rule. I had been kicked out of the family at 15, to live on the street, likely because I did question some of it. I have come to this understanding: The rule means nothing. Breaking it means nothing. Following it means nothing. Watching each other break or follow it? That is everything. It prevents us from working together to realize we are being wronged and harmed. I plead now, to survivors of relational traumas, please look more at what is inside you that had you survive. What is inside of other survivors that made them survive. Look at abuse patterns, not the narrative. The patterns are the same across all of it. The difference lies in the degree of abuse or the largesse of the community who abuse was enacted on and even with that, the damage sustained, the wounding, is so similar that we can help each other. All of us can help each other, we just need to see abuse in terms of patterns and throw the abuser's individual narratives in the garbage. We will never understand the story we were given because that is why it was built - to be impossible to understand. Confused humans can be controlled, full stop. Confusion has been my single most painful state. Despite being beaten and scared shitless on the street, being in jail, the trauma is in the confusion and betrayal. That's the sticky mess that holds us down.
OK I have to comment again... Your listen Linda was perfect and inspiring. You didn't just say it, you're living that... And what's more christ like than that?? ❤
So thankful she finally got out and find she doesn’t have to be controlled and so brain washed and away from so much that made you feel you weren’t worthy. Such a journey and thankful she is enjoying genuine love from a fine man.
Wait. She’s only been out for two years!?!?! After not only being born into a cult, but being directly controlled by the LEADER of the cult! She’s an amazing person. Wow
She wouldn’t be out if he had called her back
No doubt
All forms of communication should be forbidden for Warren Jeffs. This continuing abuse could only happen in the US! A compete mess.
You’re in great form, Shelise!
⛓ Agree Warren Jeffs should be put in maximum security prison and locked up 23 hrs a day. The Feds should continue to investigate.
That would be cruel and unusual punishment. We are NOT Facists.
The cruelty of Abrahamics is just endless.
If WJ is using communication to commit a crime then it would be legally justified to limit or restrict communication or visits with certain individuals. Crimes would include: human trafficking, child abuse, witness tampering, financial crimes etc. It may even be a good idea to let WJ continue visits and communication to investigate and build a case against him.
I wonder if Warren is schizophrenic.
I almost shed a few tears when she started talking about her new fiancée and showed the ring, you can see the true happiness in her eyes. I am so happy for her, thank you for sharing
I did shed a tear.
Yes. There are decent loving authentic men in this world who don't abuse women and children. I am happy for her because I am a mature man who despises all those domineering narcissists and egoistical jerks.
Same here. That was so sweet, I’m happy for her
❤ this lady deserves so much joy for the rest of her life.
I agree and I think that for every person I've seen interviewed here.
Interesting that he believed she didn't want children, yet made her a full time caregiver for the children. Either it was some sort of twisted punishment by giving her the opposite of what he believed she wanted... or he knew she wanted children and he was rubbing her face in the one thing he refused to give to her.
@@Charity-vm4btYour post starts out merely didactic and even a little compassionate. When you say the children must repent for the sins of the parents you sound like a cultist. The children are abused, punished, banished, and of course, are groomed to carry on the work of grooming the next generation. The fact that this strong intelligent woman took five isolated years hoping to redeem herself from the sin (falsely accused) of DREAMING (f'goshen sake!) before making a change just shows how dangerous such coercive control can be. I cannot stomach your assertion that children need to repent for past generations.
She is still so traumatized that diesnt realize that the fact he rejected to have children with him, was probably one of the best things hapoen to her!
But, sometimes having children is such a deep need inside your soul that anyway it happens is fulfilling. She was also a loving person who worked with children for years.
@@megb9700 yet still hasnt realize it. I suppose it takes time for each individual, specially with such a big traumas like abuse. Bless her.
@@ernestomenendez9307 Yes, she came from three generations of plygm’y going back to Jos. Smith. Her mother was one of many wives and Aida was the youngest of ten, the only females. She saw her own mother for brief periods only. She probably never bonded with any maternal person in a deep way. The children of any of these unions had minimal contact with their biological fathers. No male role models, no parental bonding.
That's dismissive and rude for you to decide for her whether or not having children-even his-wouldn't have been better. As someone who could not have children despite trying, I'm going to guess it would be very hurtful if she read it. I hope she didn't and never does.
Many other Jeffs wives had children and are happy to have them, no matter how they got those children. My father was abusive, and my mother does not regret one bit that she had us, no matter the cost.
@@MaidMirawynnot really dismissive. Her exhusband raped his own daughter. Who would want to bring children to a man like that? Anyone can see the previous circumstances were horrible. High control religion by a molesting religious psychopath.
Feminine power is so underated. Her strength helped so many in a pressure filled environment. Even brainwashed...lovely soul.
Definitely and this is a demonstration of how that innate goodness can not only get us through such unnatural and traumatic times, it can also help others.
Actually, I’m going to call that ‘innate goodness’, feminine power from now on 💪🏽 I think the guys got it wrong, God is definitely more of the feminine energy ~ it’s the strongest yet also the gentlest and most loving ❤ we rock 🤩
@@autumn5852 You are awesome! Reading this comment made me smile😊
Warren is a sadist. I am so sorry you were manipulated and abused under the guise of love ❤ thank you for sharing your story ❤
Ready at one touch?! Has Warren seen Warren in a mirror? 😂 Does he think he's Henry Cavill or something?
😂😂😂
@@CultstoConsciousnessLove that comment Miriam!!!
Very proud of Ada/Amy!!!
Blessings on her new loving life!!
You deserve such happiness!
(Writing a book? I will buy it.)
For real though. Or Jason Momoa. ❤
So many of these rule seem like something was annoying him in the moment and he would just say it was a sin. Wife #56 and 45 wants to take 16 kids to botanical gardens….geee that’s expensive….ummm “Hey lady’s we shouldn’t give outsiders money because they will sin with it, so its sinful to help them sin.” “Oh wow never thought about it like that, I guess we will have PJB sandwich and walk down to the creek again”
@@miabuz reminds me so much of the god Nuggan from Terry Pratchett's Monstrous Regiment
So incredible, Ada. From someone who grew up in Provo Ut (as a non-Mormon) and worked with FLDS, you are incredibly courageous to break away. Deprogramming and reprogramming takes a very very long time but your heart is overflowing through your eyes and words. Keep it up sister!!
Former FLDS here. When we went to dedicate all our stuff at the storehouse, they made us bring our children along and we brought our children into the storehouse and "gave" them to the lord and church also.
What?! Even though it’s mostly symbolic, that’s still wrong. In my opinion.
Consecrated Bobby pins? How do people get so addled that this even makes any kind of sense
@@CultstoConsciousnessIt has the potential to be way more than symbolic if Jeffs has the power to just move kids around, give and take spouses and such. I got a chill when I read that and thought about the trafficking victims who have given up their passports to someone they thought they could trust. Not sure if you'll read this at this late date, but thanks for the amazing work you do. So much heart and soul as well as the grind of the labor, I'm sure!
Awesome interview.
Her comment on being fiscally out for 3 years but only mentally out for 2 hits home pretty hard. I decided I was done about 3 months ago and it is a big pill to swallow. I don't feel like I was born into a cult but whatever the flds has turned into in the last 20 to 25 years definitely fits the description pretty dam close.
Be easy on yourself. I hope you find peace and happiness in your new life!
Wishing you only the best as you forge a new life.
Ada Marie / Amy's story is fascinating and heartbreaking. I'm sorry you went through that but am so happy that you are now happy and loved and with your family! Thank you for being so vulnerable in sharing your story. Let's hope some other ladies who are stuck in the FLDS can see your story and get themselves free. Congratulations on your engagement!
Shame on this prison for allowing this man to have a platform while hes incarcerated!
Yep. He should have zero communication of any sort with the outside world. People need to be able to see the light and true love. They live in fear and guilt their entire lives.
Money can open many doors...
It's not the prison's fault. Let's clear that up. There are certain rights prisoners are afforded, including contact with family, friends, attorneys, clergy, etc., otherwise an organization called the "American Civil Liberties Union" will sue the state of Texas who runs the prison. They monitor the rights of prisoners among other annoying things and can cause a lot of trouble! Warren Jeffs passes messages through his family. If anything, blame them!
What a sweet, compassionate, loving, humble, kind, courageous, and respectful lady. We can all learn a lot from her. 💜💜
Sending love. Such important work. Thanks Shelise and Ada Marie for speaking up.
A most heartfelt congratulations Amy on your engagement! Thank you for sharing your story. You truly are a strong and brave woman.
I often wonder when I watch your videos do the people that speak out realise that they are heroes? Their strength is remarkable. Im in awe!
I am so sorry, been in a cult, persecuted in the court by "pastor/apostle". There must be a law to stop these idiots to abuse people.
There are already laws. The problem is enforcement.
Normal people avoid court because it's extremely detrimental to health (via stress and anxiety). Antisocial personalities (including cult leaders) do not feel these emotions as deeply, if at all, which allows them to use the court process itself as a weapon.
The act of taking you to court is a victory to them in itself, as the court naturally assumes good faith on their part and forces you to address any allegation they wish to throw at you as if it were legitimate. The technical term for this behavior is "narcissistic triangulation". Of course in theory, perjury is illegal, but in practice, the courts and prosecutors protect it.
So no, laws won't help, as @Exiled.New.Yorker points out, they already exist. The problem is with the system itself, that in practice there is no penalty against lying in court (other than possibly losing your case), and abusers take advantage of this because they don't need to win the case to beat you. There's nothing special about your case, I've seen it happen so many times to so many others.
@@gunt-her After 5 years torture in the court, without lawyer, job, money, I won the case . I defended myself by writing letters to the court. They appealed the verdict and now I'm waiting for the decision of the second-instance court. I am in europe Croatia.
Not everything is about romantic love, but I am so happy that she looks so happy when she talks about her fiancé. She truly deserves it!
Your interviews always amaze me. To see how many years the cult control can destroy lives and the resilience of some people are incredibly moving. Thank you.
Congratulations on the new chapter of your life! You deserve all the best from here on. Thank you for sharing your story!🎉❤
He is such a despicable, disgusting man! I feel so sorry for ALL of his victims. It is frightening to consider how easily virtually anybody can be manipulated. His victims were conditioned and berated for years into believing absolutely everything he said. 😢
To be fair, he too was manipulated and groomed from birth and if you look at the history and the cycles of this group, it’s clear what he was groomed for. He was like a lamb to the slaughter. It doesn’t excuse what he did etc and he had to be brought to an end but he was as brain washed and manipulated as all the rest of them 😢 but thank god some of them are healing from the trauma and becoming inspirations to us ❤
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
Yes! That ☝️
The best part is when we got to see her happy and know she’s with her mom and that she was engaged, and you were so cute when you giggled and said “fiancé” and she showed her ring. So happy for her. She deserves to be happy. ❤️
Awe, your brothers remembered you! ❤How precious! I love how they tried to reconnect with you all those years! 🥰
Yeah, men WOULD NEVER SURVIVE what these wives have had to endure. No way. I wish her everlasting joy for the rest of her life 💗💗💗
No man I know would put up with it.
Congrats on your engagement, Ada!
Ada Marie I don’t think I’ve been quite so touched by any other guest. Your kindness and caring come through the screen. I’m so excited for you on your new adventure into a loving marriage and continuing to redeem some of the time that was stolen from you and your mom! Sending you all the love. 😊
That is the best Linda Listen, because it helps everybody 💓 Ada Marie is such an inspiration for good, and a clear demonstration of how that innate goodness can be used against us, but it can also be used as a healing power.
People who don’t watch videos on here are missing out on so much, not least the inspiration these ladies, men and children, including hosts, bring us 💞🙌🏽🌟
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You have such amazing people on your channel. It's a highly addictive listening experience.
That’s great to hear! Thanks for your support ❤️
I love how Warren is suppose to be a prophet FOR PEOPLE, but forgets about people. That debunks him hard.
You are so brave to come out and talk about all these things that happened, that you saw, and you experienced. I wish you the best and true happiness for the rest of your life. I hope that other wives and people that were mixed up in all this mess will feel safe to come forth and tell their stories as well and heal from the trauma. I feel so bad for the people who are still there and still believe, and I can only hope that some day they too will realize the lies and also break free.
I'm so happy for her❤. Please let her know she should write a book. I'd definitely buy it. Her story has been more informative than any other one I've heard anywhere
congratulations on your engagement i wish you and your fiance all the love, peace, and happiness in the world
I watched all of the episodes of GUIP with Ada Marie and now both here, and her story is riveting but what struck me even more is how positively GLOWING she is here especially when talking about her fiancé and reuniting with her family. Congratulations and you so deserve this happiness! ❤
I didn't expect to cry and I am a grown man. Ada is such an inspiration. I wish I could give her a hug.
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Absolutely love your Linda listen moment! Empathy is what leads us to compassion and understanding each other. Wishing you only the best things in your future!❤
Love her! My fave guest so far!!!! She’s amazing and keep up the good work lady
Ada Marie!! Congrats on your engagement & this new chapter of life!! Enjoy it all, you deserve all the joy & peace you can get! Thank you for telling your story, it has been wonderful to get the perspective from a former wife of Warren & see how it was in his specific family, even though I know it was hard to experience at the time! This is valuable insight into how things were/are run by him. Sending all the best wishes your way ❤
Congratulations on your engagement Ada Marie❣️Your story will help so many others!!!!
Wishing you joy and peace and individual sovereignty ❤Love that you and your Mother are reunited❣️
Thank you for sharing your story. So much respect for all you have accomplished and for your kind and non-judgmental attitude towards people. Hats off to you!
Both episodes with Ada Marie are so full and interesting. Thank you very much, ladies, for sharing your stories ❤ i am so happy you are on a better path now ❤
I am so incredibly proud of Ada Marie! She's accomplished so much in such a short amount of time, and I admire how tenacious and resourceful she has been, both inside and out of the FLDS. She has endured so much, but her strength and optimism are amazing, and she shows a lot of wisdom in my opinion. She clearly has taken all the good and bad of her life, and spun gold out of it. I'm so happy she was able to reconnect with family members, that they were full of love and kindness for her, and that she had such wonderful people on the outside to help her. And now she's engaged! She's getting the love she has deserved.
Warren Jeffs didn't deserve any woman (That gross man didn't even deserve a pile of mud), and he had such a gem in Ada Marie, and took such advantage her. I'm so glad that she's now free, and able to have everything and do everything she has wanted and always deserved.
This story is so sad 😞 I prayer for full recovery and happiness with life now. One of my brothers is LDS in Utah my family has been shunned for 35 or more years now we do not believe in the faith he follows. It’s heartbreaking I’ve never met any nieces and nephews I think there was 6 of them and probably married now. It’s so wrong if a religion makes you leave or separate the family god wouldn’t want that.
being shunned in the LDS church is not a doctrine, in fact it's wrong, most people that leave the LDS church of course disappoint their families, and most people distance themselves from their family and friends, it's not the family that does it, but they project in their mind that it is the family. I am not saying that some family members get hurt and then try to make the person feel guilty, of course that happens, but in following Christ in the LDS church, we don't shun people like the many accounts given by ex JW's, that isn't happening, that word shun is used now though
@@donnavaughn9409 Whether it is supposed to happen or not, it does. I know ex-LDS (not FLDS) who have been shunned by their families. They refuse to associate with their kids and their kids' families unless they return to the church, and won't go to events like birthday parties, showers, weddings, and graduations. The parents make every conversation about returning to the church and doctrine, and cut off the convo if they won't discuss it, then won't respond for months.
@@MaidMirawyn it is the person leaving that distances them self, and then projects that on their family and friends. Any sane member is not going to try to shame the person all the time, sure they are hurt, but I guarantee, it's the person who ha left that makes it difficult. It is very, very rare that a parent, spouse of sibling would act the way you described, I say this because I know people who have left, I know their families and I know how it all play out.
Ada Marie, you are a brave, beautiful women--a person of integrity and clarity. What a journey you've had. I have enormous respect for people such as yourself who have grown up in such controlling circumstances, brainwashed from birth essentially, and can find their way out and make a new life for themselves, also educating others about what they endured. I wish you happiness, blessings, and peace. Shelise, as always, you shine as an interviewer. Kudos and love to you both.
I was in tears when she described her reuniting with her mom. That must have been such a special moment for them both.
This is so sad I’m so sorry you went through these things and we’re just so isolated
Thank you Ada Marie for your interviews! I'm so happy and excited for you and your future!
Ada Marie is so brave for speaking out, I’m so happy for her that she’s found love
Ada, I have tears of joy listening to the end of this. Your strength and resilience is inspiring, and I love seeing how beauty is coming out of the ashes for you. Thank you for sharing.
I have watched both episodes and I was desperate to hear that she had found a true and genuine love. There must have been enormous revelations about the outside world and to hear the 'Linda listen' moment be 'no judgement' was wonderful. I'm sure re-connecting with your family went a long way in soothing your soul, and my only wish for you is to be able to sit with your fiancé and eat as much ice cream as you want! Thank you for being so open with your story ❤
Love this comment! That is exactly what we do! We both LOVE ice cream!!!❤
Awe, congratulations on engagement and what a brave lady cannot apprehend all you went through! ❤
Congrats on the engagement and so happy you get to live your own life now.
It made my heart so happy to hear Ada Marie say “Now that I am experiencing true love.” Thank you, Ada Marie, for sharing your story.
Thank you so much for your story! you are the sweetest person I have ever heard speak! sending you TONS of love.
Thank you for these videos and for helping these survivors. ❤
This has been your best interview for me. Ada Marie was lovely to listen to. She is so brave and such a positive light.
Wow!!!! This was amazing
I had my mouth open for both interviews with her.
Love your show and pray that your guests get the council they need. Can't imagine the hell you all have been through.
It's so scary Warren gets to do this from prison. I sure hope Chad Daybell doesn't get this sick privilege. Keep sharing your story Amy, you are loved and supported.
I a. Sure he will have this privilege and more. Mormonism has far reaching tentacles
oh my goodness girl.. so proud of you. you are very strong. takes a lot of courage to leave something like that and to also speak your truth. that man is sick and im so glad he is in prison.
Ohhhh Amy, listening to your interviews, I just love you more and more. So heartwarming to know how happy you are. ❤️🩹
Congratulations on the individual sovereignty and the engagement, Ada Marie! These two episodes have been super informative!
I'm really touched: thank you Amy for being this positive, string person inside and out and all the best to you!
Love this SOOO much. Such a inspirational brave awesome person, wishing you ALL the best and have a wonderful day.
I’m so happy for her that she’s engaged!!!! I listened to both channels interviews, she’s a truly amazing person!
Shelise! Your guests are always so beautiful and resilient. Truly wisdom and strength can come from hard environments. I'm so proud for Ada for blazing her own path ❤
Same!! ❤️
I learned so much watching this interview! Ada broke down the emotional control and mind control that the church, and many churches do to women. She found her way out!! Ada you are so beautiful and I'm so happy for you as you start your new life in a real marriage. I'm touched by your strength and perseverance. Thank you for telling your story.
Congratulations on your engagement!!
Wonderful talk - thanks to you both.
The beautiful woman is an inspiration to us all. I have heard her story on growing up in polygamy and then a story from here it's beyond captivating. I just want to send her so much love.
Her correcting the language of the questions reminded me so much of the responsibility I had to manage the public image of my abuser. I had so much hesitation, concern, and perfectionism in the language around him or anything he did. I found myself correcting others in the exact same way. It took a fellow survivor pointing out that I didn’t have to manage his image as I deconstructed and healed from everything.
Thank you for that Linda listen and the wisdom from the older man you cared for. Wishing you beautiful days moving forward.
I hope she is now very relieved that she has not forwarded Warren Jeffs' genes into the future.
I understand your comment and I'm sure she's relieved that Warren is out of her life!! And I am not commenting this out of buyt-hurt - there is no point in being offended about an non-existing child. But I, and many with me, have children with an extremely abusive man. The children are not their father and they are no less lovable or precious because of their father. I wouldn't trade my child for anything even though its father has put us through hell and still tries to do so.
I just wanted to point that out. I love my child above anything and so does my husband.
I am sure Ann Mari/Amy would love her children regardless of their father. But yes, ideally one would like to have children with a good father in the first place. The genes take nothing away from the kids though ❤
Thank you for sharing your story.
Such a lovely ending or new beginning for such a brave lady. Congratulations may your life be just full of peace and happiness from now on! If those still following Warren could only see this ladys truth. Amazing riveting and well done. From Ireland. CC
🤍⭐🤍 Inspired. Sending love and thanks to you both. 🤍⭐🤍
Bless you Ada!!!!❤🎉 Your story is difficult to listen to without cringing. Thank you for sharing anyway. It needs to be out there. Your bravery is inspiring. Sending love!! Don't give up.
Oh my goodness, after listening to both episodes and hearing her story, I adore her so much. She is so smart and you can just feel her vulnerability through her words and I have so much compassion for her. Definitely enjoyed hearing her life and knowing she reconnected with her family ❤
Idaho gal Here! You are so brave and such a beautiful soul!! Should come visit the craters of the moon and Sun Valley!!
congrats on your engagement
What a sweet woman & absolutely beautiful from the inside & out. Her fiancé is a very lucky man & I’m sure he knows that. Congratulations on your upcoming marriage & I hope you are so proud of yourself for getting out of that cult & away from that nasty predator. I hope you & your husband go on to live long, healthy & happy lives together💜💜
Your guest has the most beautiful eyes. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for telling the truth. I hope you have a lifetime of happiness
what a strong and kind woman! I loved hearing her story, she told it so well and with such calm and softness, I wish her the best
Ada Marie - You are so capable af creating your own path and I'm sure you'll continue to bring many good things to other people's lives! Many hapoy times ahead to you and your family. ❤
I can’t believe nowadays a prisoner can have social media platforms and be in contact with those who were hurt by their actions. I’ve seen TH-cam channels where they’re allowed to post videos from the prisons! TH-cam has been slacking IMO. Anyone in prison shouldn’t ever have this privilege whatsoever.
I have to disagree on this one. Lots of people are imprisoned who are falsely accused or issues of questionable legality or for even protesting on behalf of their other rights. Regardless, the only thing that makes a free country is free speech. Victims need to get help for themselves so they no longer pursue these types of toxic relationships. There are always plenty more outside the prison and the same mentality of the victims won't get erased by cancelling some other person's right to free speech.
That constant question of was I good enough or why wasn’t I good enough. So simple yet what a huge effect it had on your life and thoughts and feelings. It’s incredible how damaging this type of constant questioning can be.
You have such a sweet spirit that shines through these videos. Thank you for sharing your story and your honesty is just glorious.
So excited you are engaged! Enjoy all the love.
Thank you Ada Marie, for sharing such troubling, traumatic, personal experiences. I'm sure it is exhausting and we appreciate you.
I need to share, for any survivor of relational trauma/abuse, that there is no "rule". We think there is one, because we are the rational person analyzing what happened to us, desperate to find meaning and order, in the hopes of moving past it. We don't move past it. We move through it, building up post traumatic growth as we go, if we are lucky. If we get lost in the story, we get stuck in trauma responses. Freeing ourselves from that is healing.
The abuser creates a set of rules and we follow. They are able to convince us to do so by grooming us when we are small, before we can protect ourselves (for me, my parents, for cults, the parents of children are and then they groom the children, whether they mean to or not). No rule has to make sense anymore, they have hooked us into whatever narrative.
But the rule is described and people follow it. Some are unable to. Maybe they have a stronger sense of self or they are just unable to do whatever it is. The abuser knows that if they punish some and not others, the confusion that follows will further bind followers to them. Division is sown amongst the followers, never ascribing the wrongs to the abuser, only to each other. This destroys collective resistance, leaving those who break away alone and the rest trapped, still.
I'm 47 years old and come from a large family. We did not follow a religion. We instead, were seen as pillars of an arts-based subculture. I spent most of my life trying to understand why my siblings and I were treated differently for breaking the same rule or what it meant to my abuser in the first place to enact said rule. I had been kicked out of the family at 15, to live on the street, likely because I did question some of it.
I have come to this understanding: The rule means nothing. Breaking it means nothing. Following it means nothing. Watching each other break or follow it? That is everything. It prevents us from working together to realize we are being wronged and harmed.
I plead now, to survivors of relational traumas, please look more at what is inside you that had you survive. What is inside of other survivors that made them survive. Look at abuse patterns, not the narrative. The patterns are the same across all of it. The difference lies in the degree of abuse or the largesse of the community who abuse was enacted on and even with that, the damage sustained, the wounding, is so similar that we can help each other.
All of us can help each other, we just need to see abuse in terms of patterns and throw the abuser's individual narratives in the garbage. We will never understand the story we were given because that is why it was built - to be impossible to understand.
Confused humans can be controlled, full stop.
Confusion has been my single most painful state. Despite being beaten and scared shitless on the street, being in jail, the trauma is in the confusion and betrayal. That's the sticky mess that holds us down.
This Lady deserves all of the good things of life!
I would love to see a shared interview with her and Briell.
Just added
I give myself permission to experience joy and happiness
to my affirmations notebook.
OK I have to comment again... Your listen Linda was perfect and inspiring. You didn't just say it, you're living that... And what's more christ like than that?? ❤
Much love to you Amy!! You're an inspiration to me and many others ❤❤❤
I absolutely loved this visit with her! She is an amazing woman! Love that she has found her true love!!
Congratulations on your engagement 💍❤❤❤
Oh my gosh Amy you’re amazing and I’m so happy for you! ❤
Thank you for sharing your story❤
You are so brave. Thank you for sharing. You are amazing! ❤
So thankful she finally got out and find she doesn’t have to be controlled and so brain washed and away from so much that made you feel you weren’t worthy. Such a journey and thankful she is enjoying genuine love from a fine man.