The French wing looks fantastic. Well done to all. Fingers crossed that the March Rivet Club newsletter arrives soon, I am suffering HangerCam withdrawal.
Just another insight into the dedication and complexities of the restoration of "Just Jane "........the belt feed to the rear turret ......incredible ! Thankyou Neville
What a great job the lads have done with that wing. Iam going to have to pay a visit again soon. Cheers also to you again Nev for another wonderful video,take care mate.
Thanks Neville. Wow. The French wing looks amazing now it has been painted. Great job Mike. Well done to Keith for all his hard work in getting it to where it is now. Interesting to hear how the ammunition assist works. I never realised how far back the ammo sat for the rear turret and it was interesting to hear your explanation of 13 rounds per foot. It wouldn't have taken very long for the ammo to run out would it. Do you happen to know roughly how much ammo they would carry on a flight. I would be interested to know please. Thanks for explaining what the different colours the bomb markings stand for. What a wonderful memorial Jane is to Chris Panton and also to all the brave men who lost their lives serving bomber command and for our freedom. God bless them all. Less we forget. Well done to everyone there at the centre for all their continued effort in keeping the restoration moving along. Thank you as always Neville for all your valuable updates you bring to us each week. Look forward to your next one. All the best to you and everybody at the centre. 👍
Fantastic stuff once again. Not only do these fantastic engineers open up their work place for us all to follow Neville around the site, great to know they are also reading the comments and helping out with any questions.. I never had any interest in the guns or turrets much, but this one got me wondering how the rounds of ammo go around a 90 deg bend in to the turret if the guns have been turned fully to port or starboard?
Just doing a video with the answer to your question , I took 30 min of video with Ade and Andy on this subject, a lot of editing to.🥵🤔🤐 .doth-cam.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f975.png
Fascinating as ever. How does the ammo belt cope with changes of orientation between the floor run then to the turret rotation then to the gun alignment?
Superb job by all, Just Jane will be proud to wear her sisters parts whilst her own are being restored. I wonder if the French parts will go back to maritime blue when returned? Super video Neville.
Thank you Neville great update. Good to see the wing in paint and soon ready for fitment. Will all the internal pipe work and fittings be installed after the wing is bolted back on Jane? Looking forward to your next update. Cheers John
I'm a complete addict. It's my longest bucket my list to see this fly. I believe and I ask God that I may be be able to to do this. I'm now this month 77 and wonder if you can tell me where likely the aircraft will be airworthy and will be able to fly, please
I can't wait to see Jane fly. It must have been 1995, my grandad took me to East Kirkby, to one of the early engine run ups, when only one merlin was running. My grandad, would be so happy and interested, to see the progress at East Kirkby, and this lass has a keen interest too. I can't wait until we have two airworthy lancs in Lincolnshire
Hi Peter, when will it fly not sure on this but it will be a well constructive Lancaster. I would think about 6 to 8 years that would take you to 85. Happy Birthday
It's never safe to judge colour under artificial light, never mind an image converted to RGB colour taken in digital light, but it does appear the roundel has been painted on using BS381C-110 Roundel Blue and BS381C-538 Roundel Red which were introduced post-war. Wartime roundels used non-BS381 colours instructed by the Ministry of Aircraft Production; Dull Blue and Dull Red, both darker and as the name suggests duller than the post-war shades used by the RAF as the "hi - vis" colours until mostly superseded by the lo-vis colours on most types (BS381C-172 Pale Roundel Blue and BS381C-454 Pale Roundel Pink").
Some questions about the ammo. Not knowing the rate of fire, approximately how many seconds before one runs out of ammo? Can the barrels sustain a 390 bullet run? I.e. how many seconds before it starts to melt. Can one fire only one barrel ? Does each barrel have it's own supply of 390? Just to give an example, the Bristol Bulldog has two .303 Vickers. It takes about 6 seconds to empty the two ammo boxes. Forget the movie land version of the 10,000 rounds per gun. Once again: Neville you are a national treasure!!!
Hi Ed . The rate of fire was around 6- to 700 rounds per min. The Ammo box stored 30 feet away from the Guns held 2000 (approx) rounds with 390 rounds in the track the total 2390 per gun. Video 242 Ade and Andy talked about this. Thanks Rd.
I think Lancasters using the FN82 turret carried 400 rounds of .50cal BMG rounds per gun. The only reason I believe this is that .50cal ammunition comes in boxes of 100 rounds and I believe it always has done. It would be odd to remove 20 rounds (10 per gun) unless weight was at such a premium that it was necessary. It's just that 390 rounds seems like such a strange number. It doesn't divide into 50 or 100 which are nice round numbers beloved of armourers and storemen. You wouldn't have boxes of 330 (too heavy to lift), or 110 (another strange number for a storeman) or some other divisor of 390. That just doesn't seem right.
Hi SC, Each Gun carried 2000 in the in the box plus 390 in the track the Ammo Box were stored 30 feet away from the guns fired at 6- to-700 rnd per min.
The French are also restoring a Lancaster Mk 7 NX664 to display condition. They have given parts of their aircraft to EK, to restore and fit to Just Jane, so JJ can continue taxiing during the season to provide revenue for the project. Then after Jane`s sections have been made to airworthy standard, and fitted, NX664`s parts will be returned to France.
Was Just Jane always wearing a bikini? I know when in combat , nose art was more riskia. After the war or coming back to the states, the nose art was repainted for modesty.
Great work by all the engineers, volunteers and yourself for the videos. And thanks for the mention, Artie was over the moon! 😊
It's a pleasure Chris.
Another excellent video Neville showing the magnificent work of the talented team .
Cheers Michael.
The French wing looks fantastic. Well done to all. Fingers crossed that the March Rivet Club newsletter arrives soon, I am suffering HangerCam withdrawal.
Cheers James.
Thanks Neville, as always great info. I look forward to your videos every weekend . Cheers! Hugh .
Thanks Hugh.
Thanks Neville, your videos are so informative. Lets hope you are there on V day when she takes to the skies.
Cheers Stewart.
Just another insight into the dedication and complexities of the restoration of "Just Jane "........the belt feed to the rear turret ......incredible ! Thankyou Neville
Cheers John.
Thanks Neville. Keep up the good work. Look forward to watching every week.
Thanks Badgood.
Great painting
Cheers Mark.
Thanks, Nev.
Cheers Malcolm.
Looking better and better!!
Cheers Arnhemsep .
Thank you for the update Neville, the wing looks fantastic now, Can't wait to see it being fitted
Cheers Gary.
Great update Neville - The French wing looks excellent!
Cheers Charles.
What a great job the lads have done with that wing. Iam going to have to pay a visit again soon. Cheers also to you again Nev for another wonderful video,take care mate.
Cheers Mike.
Brilliant as usual Nev. Looking forward to seeing the wing fitted, which won’t be too long now.
Its on.
Hi Ivor. , the wings on know. Sorry late answering your comment.
Very interesting Neville thank you mate 👍
Cheers David.
Great to see other volunteers that do unsung work at East Kirkby, get their few minutes of fame. Did see the wing back on JJ.
Cheers David. ( not sure it was on when you made this comment)
What another fantastic episode! That really is an amazing workplace ⚒️🗜⭕️🍦
Cheers Soppdrake.
Thanks Neville. Wow. The French wing looks amazing now it has been painted. Great job Mike. Well done to Keith for all his hard work in getting it to where it is now. Interesting to hear how the ammunition assist works. I never realised how far back the ammo sat for the rear turret and it was interesting to hear your explanation of 13 rounds per foot. It wouldn't have taken very long for the ammo to run out would it. Do you happen to know roughly how much ammo they would carry on a flight. I would be interested to know please. Thanks for explaining what the different colours the bomb markings stand for. What a wonderful memorial Jane is to Chris Panton and also to all the brave men who lost their lives serving bomber command and for our freedom. God bless them all. Less we forget. Well done to everyone there at the centre for all their continued effort in keeping the restoration moving along. Thank you as always Neville for all your valuable updates you bring to us each week. Look forward to your next one. All the best to you and everybody at the centre. 👍
Hi Andy, the ammo box holds 2000 rounds plus the track hold 390 total 2390 rounds in each gun. rate of fire 6- to -700 rounds per min.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 Cheers for that Neville. Appreciate it. 👍
Thanks again Neville...good to meet Roger doing very important jobs.
Cheers Adrian.
Fantastic stuff once again. Not only do these fantastic engineers open up their work place for us all to follow Neville around the site, great to know they are also reading the comments and helping out with any questions..
I never had any interest in the guns or turrets much, but this one got me wondering how the rounds of ammo go around a 90 deg bend in to the turret if the guns have been turned fully to port or starboard?
Not sure Andy I will check that out. I will have a word with Ade and hopefully record it
Just doing a video with the answer to your question , I took 30 min of video with Ade and Andy on this subject, a lot of editing to.🥵🤔🤐 .doth-cam.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f975.png
Thank you @nevillewheeldon1693
Fascinating as ever.
How does the ammo belt cope with changes of orientation between the floor run then to the turret rotation then to the gun alignment?
Yes - I was wondering about this too.
Hi Bill ,will check this out hopefully record it on video.
Thanks Neville,I'll watch out for that
@nevillewheeldon1693
Superb job by all, Just Jane will be proud to wear her sisters parts whilst her own are being restored. I wonder if the French parts will go back to maritime blue when returned? Super video Neville.
Not sure on the pain work but I would expect so. Cheers Andrew.
Looks great are they going to put on the black lines for the walk ways to finish the job off?
Not sure on that one Stephen.
Good video Nev, with all the drilling in the background, how many drills do they get through every week??
Pass on that one Allan.
Saw pictures today that showed the French wing from NX664 is now on NX611.
I missed the big event. Looking good.
Hi Raggy, yes the trailing edge is going on this week.
Thank you Neville great update. Good to see the wing in paint and soon ready for fitment. Will all the internal pipe work and fittings be installed after the wing is bolted back on Jane? Looking forward to your next update. Cheers John
Hi John yes the fitting will go back in when the wings on Jane. Video 242/3 covers this . Sorry late answering your comments.
I'm a complete addict. It's my longest bucket my list to see this fly. I believe and I ask God that I may be be able to to do this. I'm now this month 77 and wonder if you can tell me where likely the aircraft will be airworthy and will be able to fly, please
I can't wait to see Jane fly. It must have been 1995, my grandad took me to East Kirkby, to one of the early engine run ups, when only one merlin was running. My grandad, would be so happy and interested, to see the progress at East Kirkby, and this lass has a keen interest too.
I can't wait until we have two airworthy lancs in Lincolnshire
Hi Peter, when will it fly not sure on this but it will be a well constructive Lancaster. I would think about 6 to 8 years that would take you to 85. Happy Birthday
It's never safe to judge colour under artificial light, never mind an image converted to RGB colour taken in digital light, but it does appear the roundel has been painted on using BS381C-110 Roundel Blue and BS381C-538 Roundel Red which were introduced post-war. Wartime roundels used non-BS381 colours instructed by the Ministry of Aircraft Production; Dull Blue and Dull Red, both darker and as the name suggests duller than the post-war shades used by the RAF as the "hi - vis" colours until mostly superseded by the lo-vis colours on most types (BS381C-172 Pale Roundel Blue and BS381C-454 Pale Roundel Pink").
56,000 men lost. 😢
Thank you for showing the panel explaining the mission symbols. 50 cal BMG ???
Hi HH, 212 operation carried out from RAF East Kirkby--- 121 Lancaster did not return. 0.50 inch Brownings made by BSA in Birmingham UK.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 Wow. 🥰
Some questions about the ammo. Not knowing the rate of fire, approximately how many seconds before one runs out of ammo? Can the barrels sustain a 390 bullet run? I.e. how many seconds before it starts to melt. Can one fire only one barrel ? Does each barrel have it's own supply of 390? Just to give an example, the Bristol Bulldog has two .303 Vickers. It takes about 6 seconds to empty the two ammo boxes. Forget the movie land version of the 10,000 rounds per gun. Once again: Neville you are a national treasure!!!
Hi Ed . The rate of fire was around 6- to 700 rounds per min. The Ammo box stored 30 feet away from the Guns held 2000 (approx) rounds with 390 rounds in the track the total 2390 per gun. Video 242 Ade and Andy talked about this. Thanks Rd.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 Thank you Neville. I noticed the discussion. You are still only doing great and fantastic work. Cheers.
I think Lancasters using the FN82 turret carried 400 rounds of .50cal BMG rounds per gun.
The only reason I believe this is that .50cal ammunition comes in boxes of 100 rounds and I believe it always has done. It would be odd to remove 20 rounds (10 per gun) unless weight was at such a premium that it was necessary.
It's just that 390 rounds seems like such a strange number. It doesn't divide into 50 or 100 which are nice round numbers beloved of armourers and storemen. You wouldn't have boxes of 330 (too heavy to lift), or 110 (another strange number for a storeman) or some other divisor of 390. That just doesn't seem right.
Hi SC, Each Gun carried 2000 in the in the box plus 390 in the track the Ammo Box were stored 30 feet away from the guns fired at 6- to-700 rnd per min.
Could someone please explain to this uninitiated one , what exactly a "French wing" is? Ive never heard this term used anywhere else.
The French are also restoring a Lancaster Mk 7 NX664 to display condition. They have given parts of their aircraft to EK, to restore and fit to Just Jane, so JJ can continue taxiing during the season to provide revenue for the project. Then after Jane`s sections have been made to airworthy standard, and fitted, NX664`s parts will be returned to France.
@@davidmartyn5044 Thank you for that. Nice to know that the French are doing something useful;)
Was Just Jane always wearing a bikini? I know when in combat , nose art was more riskia. After the war or coming back to the states, the nose art was repainted for modesty.