@@MohammedAgbadi I’ve seen all of these on Instagram and didn’t catch that they were bad art advice I was actually rethinking the way I been drawing this whole time… TwT
I've been scrolling through comments and @Prince lamiel Maramag says and I quote there's an art tracer on TH-cam called ANIMATIC who has been tracing underrated you tubers such as chesy arts and can dango heart animation and kishin pain also he DID NOT PUT THE NAMES IN THE DESC AND ALSO HAS BEEN USING EXCUSES
@@remulous yeah, it seemed like a joke with just the eye part, but the nose part just makes it so much better. Really want to see what this person's advice for hands is. Presumably hair again, or oven mitts. I hope hair is an option for every body part. Which I suppose it is, if you aren't a coward with your laziness.
most art tutorials are basically “don’t draw in your art style, draw realistically!” no one cares, it’s art, it’s subjective, and yes, there are mistakes in your art. people have the right to love/hate a certain way of arts.
i couldn't explain more than this! i wonder why they don't realise art is extremely subjective but they want to peer pressure you into drawing in using their own technique at all costs
@@MohammedAgbadi ikr? people can criticize some artworks about mistakes you made or interpretations, but try to convince an artist to draw “realistically” like those “art tutorials?” its like shoving broccolis down your mouth even if you don’t like them
While it is subjective, there is "Ugly/wrong art" in which the fundaments that are exaggerated or broken (or the combination of the two) work horribly together to make something abysmal. Not even talking purposefully ugly like Tim Horton, I'm taking about realistic, no lineart, shading and coloring, with cartoon style movements and posture. Broken neck on a mona lisa type of stuff.
I hate this advisers, who say: "Don't do this, do that" and they don't tell what the difference is. Like "Ha, you draw a leg like this? So, start to draw legs like a professionalist". Yes, I can show you your favorite artist and say: "Don't draw like you draw. Draw like this person" : / I think when I become a bit better at drawing, I will make some tips also on my channel, not only entertaining videos, but I'll never do something like these publics do.
That’s a great point :) “tips” and “hacks” such as these put emphasis on technique and not emphasis on knowing and thinking about what exactly you’re drawing. In that case I can’t see how it teaches anyone anything. Knowing more, from my experience, allows me to add or take out information in a drawing while still knowing what I’m doing. If I’m drawing an ear, I know how they are, and I can indicate how I want and it will still read to the audience as an ear. There’s merit to depicting in a representational way. But being representational 100% is a fault I feel. Take Ashley Wood or Phil Hale. Both figurative and representational to a point. But they know what they’re doing in terms of how things or figures look, and exaggerate how they want. Anyway, I hope that made sense.
I just tried to make that "correct" smirk mouth in real life (lifting one side more, upper gum exposure, a lot of bottom teeth exposure) and very little of my top gums were showing, and a nice line of bottom gums sure were. So I tried to make my top gums show as much as pictured. To get even that amount of upper gums to flash, it was no longer a smirk, I looked like an insane ape mimicking a human expression. Tried to then cover up my bottom gums it didn't even look like an attempt at a smile anymore because the only way to stop that was to make my bottom lip tight over part of my lower teeth. I looked like I was in pain. And I was. I don't think this tip was about anatomy all of a sudden. Trying to keep in the lower teeth was awful.
I used to hate my smile, because my teeth are so small that even with a small grin on could see lick 2/3 gums. So maybe I should feel flattered that according to them my teeth are the premium sexy version? 😂
You just reminded me of something I did in the past that was similar. XD I was watching My Hero Academia and tried to imitate the facial expressions (mainly from Bakugo) and it was a painful experience... I can somewhat do the one in the video, but that is only because my lip is quite flexible and I can do this thing where it looks like I'm pulling on my upper lip with a string. It's hard for me to explain, but it's often compared to how a horse could move their mouth around if that helps. Anyway, my point is that I can only do that because my mouth differs from the norm, and I can only do it with my gums showing on one side as well.
I feel like the “do’s and don’ts” tips are kinda useless and helpful at the same time. Sure it points out what kind of mistake you were doing, but I feel like the “do’s” should be only present, because it’s straight to the point with no comparison and strict points that you have to follow. My tip is just be curious, with a good direction, if you’re curious about “is this muscle right?” A quick google search will answer your question and a few trial and error and you’ll get better at the end
word. i guess some artists visiting and using most of these tips are probably young and might not fully grasp the concept of using reference to the fullest and just prefer to follow tutorials like this to start their journey into art and later on figure out the direction they want to take their art
It just occurred to me that I’ve saved some of their references in my Pinterest- not that I ever used them but I recognize the style of how they make references omg
I think the do/don't for the neck one is just wrong in both sections oof. The biggest issue imo is that they're placing the neck there like it's a flat object instead of trying to relate it to the planes of the head/body that we don't see (i.e. there's no "fullness"/3dness to it. You can see this fullness in cartoons, too, it's not just a realistic style thing! Even simple cylindrical/tube necks like the kind you'd see in Gravity Falls look natural because they're connected properly in relation to the characters' heads and bodies, they're not just sitting flat.)
sounds like they've discovered how lucrative outrage-bait content can be when their visibility depends on their level of engagement, a lot like the worst aspects of twitter
Those "art tips" are just a cheap way to get easily a lot of posts and lots of attention (comments), which pushes those accounts even more. I got so annoyed that I unfollowed every art account who posts this kind of stuff.
"I found this very informative and helpful. In My next stick figure drawing I will be sure to draw the gums around the exposed teeth, the neck lines connecting to the collar bone and long sexy finger nails. Time to draw the right way!"
Boy, story time animators like Jaiden animations really need to take this advice, imagine how much better their animations would look with individual teeth and fingernails. And these people call themselves professional!
I see these "do's and don'ts" a lot and just meet them with skepticism. I'm trying to improve my art in general and find my style, but while some tips may actually work, it leaves me questioning how valid they are at all. Confusion ensues.
The best way to improve at art is to not follow any tips at all. Look at in depth tutorials on the important principles of art and use reference to learn how things behave irl. Together with these art principles and references you will be able to learn way better and steadier than following shitty art tips
These pages are generally helpful IF you, as an artist, have the skill to differentiate good tutorials from bad tutorials, you need to understand what is helpful to you and what isn't, some of these tutorials are heavily stylized and they won't help you if you want a different style, but i won't deny that there's waaay too many people out there making tutorials who shouldn't make tutorials. Gotta be specially careful with the ones that are "do this, don't do that", i get that these pages want to be helpful but the people making them should be careful with what they post instead of posting as much as they can in order to beat the zucc algorithm.
I actually know one art help page theyre amazing! They ask permission everytime (shows proof) and everyonce in a while they have a art…thing event ya know uhh they promote like around 10 people event every week :D and they disclaim its jot for everyone but someone might want it or someone asked for it!
Ah yes, bad, over complicated art tutorials for “beginners” -mikeymegamega- because art is that easy and isn’t just a mental breakdown you end up quitting on.
I don’t think his tutorials are bad, but definitely not for beginners lol. I don’t really get the message of ‘this artists tutorial is bad because i don’t understand it’ when its just a skill level difference. Simply, Beginner tutorial not for non beginners and non beginner tutorial not for beginner? (Ofc there are bad tutorials out there like said ones in the video)
I feel like his art tutorials arent really tutorials, Im trying to draw manga not Lewd poses. Also in almost every thumbnail he draws someone doing a weird poses. Yea don't get me wrong they arent bad😏.
@@WTTVS the reason for that is the anatomy i think. Its much well, better to draw said weird poses because it hones your skills on the way the body twists, turns, etc. But yeah i agree if hes making them lewd he shouldn't put them in his video. Exaggerating things like expressions are fine but i don't get the whole nsfw thing. But then again he could just be a NSFW artist.
Thank you for this. This is exactly what I've been explaining to people. Ancient Egyptian arts are stylized enough yet they are other people's aesthetic. We should be free to exercise our preferences too. You can "suggest" your style but you shouldn't shut down other people's.
This is why when I make tutorials I don't call them "How to"s I call them "How I"s. Every one works differently and the same advice wont work for every one. When people do ask me about stuff I cant explain very well I do direct them to like Proko cuz I found them helpful my self
I think the gums one is not an art tip but one of the memes on twitter like "things how usually are drawn vs things i love to see" and doesn't mean it's wrong to do the other way I guess the guy freebooting it from twitter to Instagram in their gimmick page doesn't know much about art making
The problem is that these "art advice accounts" often just take their pictures from random blogs of different artists or even Google search. That's why their posts provide zero context. A tutorial may be applied to certain original character, certain race/body type/fashion or certain style/skill level of specific artist who was asked on Tumblr, how do they personally draw, but unless you see an original post, you'll never know. Technically, it isn't an art theft, they don't claim ownership over tutorials, remove credits or repost commissioned content, but it definitely doesn't provide the same quality of content, as individual artist's accounts could. In conclusion, these shouldn't be taken too seriously. Also, as a person with rounded nails, kudos😂
i feel like some of these "tutorials" are actually just taken out of context (given the nature of big reposter accounts that cant use their brain when reposting something as long as it gives them clout), 9:28 for example is what i believe an artist likes to do to express what they find attractive in drawings, they like to do this thing where its like "doing this is fine but its bland and boring, so i like to add this little detail instead to make it look nicer". I believe it was never meant to be a tutorial in the first place
The belt one could be helpful for SOME people! For example, I have a semi realistic art style and it was helpful, but not everyone has a art style like me, it would be more helpful if they just drew many different types of belts,mouths,ect so an artist could choose what fit their art style
forewarning: please take this with a grain salt okay, i've been observing a lot of art styles lately and been able to pick apart on how they have usually 3 rules: 1. FUNCTIONALITY - the art follows a certain logic and structure that makes sense to the viewer. this helps in recognition, which in turn helps the audience dive into the art work deeper. 2. ACCESS/ CONNECTION - like nuts and bolts, these details connect the logic of the art expands the meaning and expression of a piece. 3. ARTISTIC CHOICE - this is where style comes in. these are details that enhance the work further, letting the artist express themselves. whether it be detailed rendering or silhouetted design choices, they provide uniqueness to pieces. now, i'm gonna make an example of this. imagine a door; usually when we see doors, we imagine a large slab of a certain material (wood, metal, etc.), that can open and close that's connected to a wall right? we use it to provide exit and entrance; this is the FUNCTION. but how can we open it? of course, we need to have a door knob; this is the ACCESS/ CONNECTION. it helps us use the function so we can use it for what it is. but the door is a little bland, why not add some carvings or paint, a.k.a. our ARTISTIC CHOICE? our choice depends on what were going for or what we think is best suited for our set aesthetic; do we want an inticrate one or a minimalistic one? eitherway, that's what we decide, and that tells us on how we're unique. hope that helps!
I’m curious how people here feel about Lavendertowne’s “don’t do this, do that” videos. The title definitely is not my favorite thing but I think it’s chosen because it does better in the TH-cam algorithm that way, and she usually clarifies in the videos that they aren’t actually strict rules, just the advice that she likes. Most importantly to me, she explains the _reason_ behind her tips. That’s what these images lack (unless there’s missing context in the video). They don’t explain what makes one thing ‘wrong’ and the other ‘right’, which I think is critical for younger/newer artists to figure out what works for them and what doesn’t.
The nail tutorial has some context from a Japanese artist, I think the tutorial is about how to make hands more feminine I think, not really sure tho, his tips in context are great, especially the ones about heels in perspective
If you read and watch enough stuff you realize there is a lot of different ways to draw basically everything and unless you are doing something realistic leaving out some details is completely fine. If there was only 1 answer to art everything would be really boring.
Honestly, sometimes real hands look so awful and "unrealistic" I think it's just necessary to cheat to make them... erh... understandable. That's what's wonderful about being an artist. You can change whatever bother you according to your own tastes.
!!!! I JUST found your channel via your art advice video from a month ago! I’m so excited to see that you JUST uploaded 😭 I’ve never subscribed so fast. It nice to see more black artists on TH-cam.
Gotta love the dos and don’ts videos. Where for some reason think other artist shouldn’t draw other things that way and most of the tips they have are wrong af 😰
In general in the art community there seems to be a pervasive idea of "REALISM GUD, CARTOON BAAAD". While its important to know your fundamentals, its absolutely not wrong to draw and stylize however you please. If drawing simple cartoony things is what gives you enjoyment, then by all means. I just really dislike these tutorials, they sometimes have a good point, but most of the time it all spins back to the tired "REALISM GUUUUD, CARTOON BAAAD" BS...
My biggest gripe with these are that they are one situation and don’t explain why it looks like that. You can show me how to draw an arm from the side but I’ll be clueless for above or other angles. Tell me why it looks like that, explain it don’t just give me a single situation
Great video, honestly. It's all down to how the artist wants to do their work. I mean, as a viewer of art, you can say "that looks ugly" and so on. But, someone else might like it. That's the beautiful thing about art. As an aside, that page probably posts them *because* they are contentious. It drives engagement.
I would like it if, instead of saying „right“ and „wrong“, they would be titled more like a suggestion saying „how about you try doing it this way instead“… because I think they can be great inspiration when searching for ways to change up one‘s art style, without meaning to make it „better“ or „worse“, just ideas to try something different. For example showing the gums. When I saw it I found it great and would love to just try it out as a change. So why not just treat as alternatives instead of like ideals?
Some of the tutorials are actually correct ,they are posted by some artists in their respective accnts which is heavily based on their style,to their audience who like and want to learn their respective style ,but these accnts repost those tutorials to the audience where artsists with so many art styles gather and dont even write a proper caption , so many of them look wrong,like the mouth one,may be it was by an artists who draws their mouths like that and shows their audience that "i like drawing gums,it looks better in my drawings" ,but some are wrong no matter by whom or where it is posted
I hate those Instagram pages. They just repost tutorials from other people usually without crediting the original artists. That's how they get so many posts so frequently. Instagram does some really weird scammy stuff to get you to follow pages like this as they make the follow button right where most people click their dm notification, so in clicking on a notification you might accidentally follow someone you didn't mean to as well.
Thank you for the comments on nails. I just finished illustrations for a children's book and the fingernails drove me crazy with drawing and redrawing them before I was satisfied they looked right in the style I was using. I got a few weird looks from the kids when they caught me inspecting their nails and trying to age them back.
I didnt learn this until a few months in, but unique styles are honestly better. My favorite preference of art, though realistic is beautiful, is exaggerated styles. I really love the hands in Klaus (movie); they're wrong yes, but not artistically, just proportions, but they look so much flipping better imo
It's funny because even in art that leans on the more realistic side, the artist would choose which details to either omit or add, or maybe even push the gesture rather copy 1:1 from reference. Context and purpose will always go first.
Specifying when and how to use your skills is so important. For example, if someone was to perform surgery they would do it completely wrong if they broke the world record for fastest runner. These are both skills you can use, it’s just when and how
My least favorite are freckle tutorials, as they always say that freckles along the nose bridge and cheeks are wrong when my freckles are LITERALLY JUST LIKE THAT
I used to follow the "don't do this do that" advice cause I'm still learning with digital art, lemme tell you it didn't end well. Thought for a while I just couldn't draw and I just stopped for half of last year.
I like art tips but just, not the comparison part, if that makes any sense. It's very useful to see how an artist draws a specific part or feature of a scene or character for refrenses and if you'd like to expand you style more, but when they begin to compare it to another way is when the attention is lost. I feel like these tips come from yourger or less "integrated" artists who changed their style and ended up liking that feature more, and decided that other must like it as well. I feel like this type of thing should be more of a "hey, this is how I draw this!" instead of a "this is how you should draw this." kind of thing.
I really appreciated that you put subtitles in the bottom, because some of your followers are Spanish-spoken. And TH-cam auto generated subs and awful. So thanks🙏
Both the do and don't belts are realistic. There are many styles of belts, including ones that have velcro on the back so the buckle will lay flat like a cartoon. So regardless of art style there is nearly no incorrect way to draw a belt.
I've seen these tutorials countless times on Instagram and i just never find them helpful in the artstyle I'm using. I'm firmly believer of "Art is subjective" thing and these tutorials never seems to reflect on that.
The best way to do something wrong is by understanding how to do it right. You can draw the way you want but if you dont know the basic skills on drawing you should just study more so that you can draw the way you want
The thing that really gets me about the neck tip at 7:00 is that if your drawings face looks like *that*, you're clearly not aiming for realistic shapes on the body to begin with, so why police how realistic the neck is if you're not gonna apply that anywhere else
I literally have two types of nails. The first two (thumb and first finger) has the round tip, the last three have the square-like shape. I can basically reference my own nails.
I really dislike it when this comes up on my fyp. It was fine the first few times but after a while it pissed me off. I thought there was something wrong with me so I'm happy that there are people addressing this.
Honestly I never got or understand any art tips because of my artstyle. Whether the art tip is okay or not. When I attended art classes all they taught me was shading and shapes, but since my parents decided to not let me attend art classes (which is after my violin classes every saturday since they are connected) because they knew I was self taught. I only got inspirations but I never searched up for art tips until I got tiktok. (sorry if this might be off topic)
This all reminds me of when I used to watch Mark Crilley when I was younger. He’d always say in his art tutorials “When I say the correct way, it’s not THE correct way.”
There are also these tutorials that say "do this not that" but the don't are usually just a more simplistic way of drawing something, making it look like there's only one way of drawing things
dont EVER listen to random instagram art advice. so much of it is pretentious, and a lot of the time when they steal photos from other people, they dont even include the entire tutorial. they phrase things like "the correct way" or "dont do this..." which makes it sound like they're disregarding art styles (realism vs cartoon , etc etc)
Am I in love with Mohammed voice yes 🙄but that’s no ones business 😭but omg I’m always looking forward to his videos idk just chilling and drawing with him playing in the background is just a big fat mood 🖤🖤 👁👄👁 WHY DONT YOU HAVE A TWITCH
the nail post makes me laugh because the "wrong" nail is the kind of nail i have, which is a broad, flat nail with short tips and it kind of flares out from the base.
I think what I hate about the art accounts is that they take some of the tutorials without taking the context from the original artist. Like the "no/yes teeth" example with the gums, what if the original artist meant it as a joke/satire coz that's how they prefer their characters, but the art tutorial page just presents it as "fact from the artist". yeah,
I enjoyed this video and would like to see more like this. Also, these kinds of art tips can confuse so so much and are just not helpful, thank you for calling them out!
agree, although the process to question and to set up the personal preference , to draw in a certain style is a good thing....so your video should be rather the pretext of their "right" and "wrong" "tips, to give an artist food for thought to decide how to draw things. I think there is no better way to get people look at their fingernails than this "right"/"wrong" pic and decide for themself how to draw them :) Not defending it but bad examples are also helpfull in learning. Anyway not drawing for a long time, but I enjoy your videos, keep it up!!
This is why I tend to use step-by-step tutorials or just rl references, really. I always thought there was something off about those don't do/do this art tips, but only after following your channel that I've realized why they tend to be stupid.
Any kind of attention is beneficial on social media. They probably know that people will disagree and complain, but they keep posting, cause all those comments are just helping the creator (the algorithm loves it).
Art is art, if your six years old and you draw a stick figure with triangular hair, that’s still art, it’s a drawing- 👏 -some people think art has to be a specific way.
FINALLY. Those do and don’t art tips have always been garbage in my opinion. They’re almost condescending to me. Like, what do they expect us to say in response? “You mean I shouldn’t draw poorly? I’ve been doing it wrong the whole time!”
Just the tip of the iceberg went it comes to bad art advice.
bruh! some of their tips were actually good, but the majority of everything on their page was just causing a headache
@@MohammedAgbadi I know that just could not resist the pun.
I am still stuck at colour theory and anatomy if any1 found any good tutorial for any of this I would really appreciate it ❤️
@@MohammedAgbadi I’ve seen all of these on Instagram and didn’t catch that they were bad art advice I was actually rethinking the way I been drawing this whole time… TwT
I've been scrolling through comments and @Prince lamiel Maramag says and I quote there's an art tracer on TH-cam called ANIMATIC who has been tracing underrated you tubers such as chesy arts and can dango heart animation and kishin pain also he DID NOT PUT THE NAMES IN THE DESC AND ALSO HAS BEEN USING EXCUSES
How to draw a circle:
1: Draw a realistic head
2: Erase all details
3: Profit
LMAOOO HUSTLING BACKWARDS...
love to see it
Spongebob is a great teacher
The only valid art tip
I see your teacher is Spongebob too
Ah yes the SpongeBob method
I actually never realized how a realistic belt looks until now.
lmaooo
Sameeee😅
yea
Same :')
Same
I really appreciate the "just cover it with hair" person because I just absolutely started losing it when the nose thing came up. What a legend.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's legitimately a joke and I'm not quite sure why everyone is taking it so seriously
@@remulous yeah, it seemed like a joke with just the eye part, but the nose part just makes it so much better. Really want to see what this person's advice for hands is. Presumably hair again, or oven mitts. I hope hair is an option for every body part. Which I suppose it is, if you aren't a coward with your laziness.
@@pandoraeve9751 lol. Can't draw faces? Just make draw an enormous mask as the face. Fool proof
cant draw? just draw hair
@@remulous Can’t draw heads? Just replace it with an object
most art tutorials are basically “don’t draw in your art style, draw realistically!” no one cares, it’s art, it’s subjective, and yes, there are mistakes in your art. people have the right to love/hate a certain way of arts.
i couldn't explain more than this! i wonder why they don't realise art is extremely subjective but they want to peer pressure you into drawing in using their own technique at all costs
@@MohammedAgbadi ikr? people can criticize some artworks about mistakes you made or interpretations, but try to convince an artist to draw “realistically” like those “art tutorials?” its like shoving broccolis down your mouth even if you don’t like them
"don't draw in your art style, draw in MY art style"
While it is subjective, there is "Ugly/wrong art" in which the fundaments that are exaggerated or broken (or the combination of the two) work horribly together to make something abysmal. Not even talking purposefully ugly like Tim Horton, I'm taking about realistic, no lineart, shading and coloring, with cartoon style movements and posture. Broken neck on a mona lisa type of stuff.
They don't know the word *ARTSTYLES* exist
Some are repetitive tho
I hate this advisers, who say: "Don't do this, do that" and they don't tell what the difference is. Like "Ha, you draw a leg like this? So, start to draw legs like a professionalist". Yes, I can show you your favorite artist and say: "Don't draw like you draw. Draw like this person" : / I think when I become a bit better at drawing, I will make some tips also on my channel, not only entertaining videos, but I'll never do something like these publics do.
lmaooo honestly that's literally what most of these tips are. sidewinded opinions blown out of context
That’s a great point :) “tips” and “hacks” such as these put emphasis on technique and not emphasis on knowing and thinking about what exactly you’re drawing. In that case I can’t see how it teaches anyone anything. Knowing more, from my experience, allows me to add or take out information in a drawing while still knowing what I’m doing. If I’m drawing an ear, I know how they are, and I can indicate how I want and it will still read to the audience as an ear. There’s merit to depicting in a representational way. But being representational 100% is a fault I feel. Take Ashley Wood or Phil Hale. Both figurative and representational to a point. But they know what they’re doing in terms of how things or figures look, and exaggerate how they want. Anyway, I hope that made sense.
"Sir I see all your characters are wearing masks with hair over at least one of their eyes."
"Yeah, I can't actually draw noses. Or eyes very well."
lmaooo i'm not exceptionally skilled at drawing facial features but my strong point is hair
Cant draw legs? Cover with hair
Cant draw arms? Cover with hair
Cant draw anything? H a i r
@@XxPanda6 Shit, I can't actually draw cousin It either
@@XxPanda6 so... draw Chewbacca 😂
Great you got the job
I just tried to make that "correct" smirk mouth in real life (lifting one side more, upper gum exposure, a lot of bottom teeth exposure) and very little of my top gums were showing, and a nice line of bottom gums sure were. So I tried to make my top gums show as much as pictured. To get even that amount of upper gums to flash, it was no longer a smirk, I looked like an insane ape mimicking a human expression. Tried to then cover up my bottom gums it didn't even look like an attempt at a smile anymore because the only way to stop that was to make my bottom lip tight over part of my lower teeth. I looked like I was in pain. And I was. I don't think this tip was about anatomy all of a sudden. Trying to keep in the lower teeth was awful.
Smirk? N'ah that's just the joker smile 😂
I used to hate my smile, because my teeth are so small that even with a small grin on could see lick 2/3 gums. So maybe I should feel flattered that according to them my teeth are the premium sexy version? 😂
*like (youtube won‘t let me edit)
Funnily enough, mine are the complete opposite. My bottom gums are barely visible but my top ones show really easily
You just reminded me of something I did in the past that was similar. XD
I was watching My Hero Academia and tried to imitate the facial expressions (mainly from Bakugo) and it was a painful experience...
I can somewhat do the one in the video, but that is only because my lip is quite flexible and I can do this thing where it looks like I'm pulling on my upper lip with a string. It's hard for me to explain, but it's often compared to how a horse could move their mouth around if that helps.
Anyway, my point is that I can only do that because my mouth differs from the norm, and I can only do it with my gums showing on one side as well.
Don’t: *draw bad*
Do: *draw good*
Enlightening.
lmaooo
Now for the correction
Don't: draw good
Do: draw good
@@flourwasmostlikelyhere 🤌
@@jumpyyjasminee5315 ..?
🔥 🔥 🔥 advice
I feel like the “do’s and don’ts” tips are kinda useless and helpful at the same time. Sure it points out what kind of mistake you were doing, but I feel like the “do’s” should be only present, because it’s straight to the point with no comparison and strict points that you have to follow. My tip is just be curious, with a good direction, if you’re curious about “is this muscle right?” A quick google search will answer your question and a few trial and error and you’ll get better at the end
word. i guess some artists visiting and using most of these tips are probably young and might not fully grasp the concept of using reference to the fullest and just prefer to follow tutorials like this to start their journey into art and later on figure out the direction they want to take their art
I saw one tip on discord and my hands became much better. So tips are good, not all though.
It just occurred to me that I’ve saved some of their references in my Pinterest- not that I ever used them but I recognize the style of how they make references omg
lmaoooo!!! try to use them and tell us how it goes!
@@MohammedAgbadi I did used the reference. It was so much fun to try new artstyles. But yeah it's not changing my own artstyle tho 😂
actually, its very rare that these art tutorials are made by the people who post them on art tip accounts.. its often stolen or uncreditted art :[
@@g_u_m_m_y_s_h_a_r_k I recognize some of these from 10 years ago, lol
I think the do/don't for the neck one is just wrong in both sections oof. The biggest issue imo is that they're placing the neck there like it's a flat object instead of trying to relate it to the planes of the head/body that we don't see (i.e. there's no "fullness"/3dness to it. You can see this fullness in cartoons, too, it's not just a realistic style thing! Even simple cylindrical/tube necks like the kind you'd see in Gravity Falls look natural because they're connected properly in relation to the characters' heads and bodies, they're not just sitting flat.)
sounds like they've discovered how lucrative outrage-bait content can be when their visibility depends on their level of engagement, a lot like the worst aspects of twitter
lmaooo apt!
Those "art tips" are just a cheap way to get easily a lot of posts and lots of attention (comments), which pushes those accounts even more.
I got so annoyed that I unfollowed every art account who posts this kind of stuff.
damn!!! ngl i though as much because they posted something out of context from one of lavedender town's old videos and just got a bunch of it from it
Also additionally they just steal msot of their content
"I found this very informative and helpful. In My next stick figure drawing I will be sure to draw the gums around the exposed teeth, the neck lines connecting to the collar bone and long sexy finger nails. Time to draw the right way!"
Boy, story time animators like Jaiden animations really need to take this advice, imagine how much better their animations would look with individual teeth and fingernails. And these people call themselves professional!
I see these "do's and don'ts" a lot and just meet them with skepticism. I'm trying to improve my art in general and find my style, but while some tips may actually work, it leaves me questioning how valid they are at all. Confusion ensues.
The best way to improve at art is to not follow any tips at all. Look at in depth tutorials on the important principles of art and use reference to learn how things behave irl. Together with these art principles and references you will be able to learn way better and steadier than following shitty art tips
These pages are generally helpful IF you, as an artist, have the skill to differentiate good tutorials from bad tutorials, you need to understand what is helpful to you and what isn't, some of these tutorials are heavily stylized and they won't help you if you want a different style, but i won't deny that there's waaay too many people out there making tutorials who shouldn't make tutorials. Gotta be specially careful with the ones that are "do this, don't do that", i get that these pages want to be helpful but the people making them should be careful with what they post instead of posting as much as they can in order to beat the zucc algorithm.
I actually know one art help page theyre amazing! They ask permission everytime (shows proof) and everyonce in a while they have a art…thing event ya know uhh they promote like around 10 people event every week :D and they disclaim its jot for everyone but someone might want it or someone asked for it!
Ah yes, bad, over complicated art tutorials for “beginners” -mikeymegamega- because art is that easy and isn’t just a mental breakdown you end up quitting on.
lmaooooooo whose name doth i seeeeee
His tutorials aren't bad, but yeah not beginner
I don’t think his tutorials are bad, but definitely not for beginners lol. I don’t really get the message of ‘this artists tutorial is bad because i don’t understand it’ when its just a skill level difference. Simply, Beginner tutorial not for non beginners and non beginner tutorial not for beginner? (Ofc there are bad tutorials out there like said ones in the video)
I feel like his art tutorials arent really tutorials, Im trying to draw manga not Lewd poses. Also in almost every thumbnail he draws someone doing a weird poses. Yea don't get me wrong they arent bad😏.
@@WTTVS the reason for that is the anatomy i think. Its much well, better to draw said weird poses because it hones your skills on the way the body twists, turns, etc. But yeah i agree if hes making them lewd he shouldn't put them in his video. Exaggerating things like expressions are fine but i don't get the whole nsfw thing.
But then again he could just be a NSFW artist.
Thank you for this. This is exactly what I've been explaining to people. Ancient Egyptian arts are stylized enough yet they are other people's aesthetic. We should be free to exercise our preferences too. You can "suggest" your style but you shouldn't shut down other people's.
This is why when I make tutorials I don't call them "How to"s I call them "How I"s. Every one works differently and the same advice wont work for every one. When people do ask me about stuff I cant explain very well I do direct them to like Proko cuz I found them helpful my self
The nail tutorial at 2:44 is so funny. My nails also look way more similar to the "wrong" ones than the "right" ones.
I think the gums one is not an art tip but one of the memes on twitter like "things how usually are drawn vs things i love to see" and doesn't mean it's wrong to do the other way
I guess the guy freebooting it from twitter to Instagram in their gimmick page doesn't know much about art making
6:33 This caught me off guard 😭
lmaoooooo! don't let em know!
IKR 😭
Who’s the artist? Source? Sauce?
@@blushbunny3130 I NEED IT
The problem is that these "art advice accounts" often just take their pictures from random blogs of different artists or even Google search. That's why their posts provide zero context. A tutorial may be applied to certain original character, certain race/body type/fashion or certain style/skill level of specific artist who was asked on Tumblr, how do they personally draw, but unless you see an original post, you'll never know. Technically, it isn't an art theft, they don't claim ownership over tutorials, remove credits or repost commissioned content, but it definitely doesn't provide the same quality of content, as individual artist's accounts could. In conclusion, these shouldn't be taken too seriously.
Also, as a person with rounded nails, kudos😂
1:21 can’t draw hair cover it up with hair
lmaoooooo name the character Harry
@@MohammedAgbadi hairy harry
i feel like some of these "tutorials" are actually just taken out of context (given the nature of big reposter accounts that cant use their brain when reposting something as long as it gives them clout), 9:28 for example is what i believe an artist likes to do to express what they find attractive in drawings, they like to do this thing where its like "doing this is fine but its bland and boring, so i like to add this little detail instead to make it look nicer". I believe it was never meant to be a tutorial in the first place
The belt one could be helpful for SOME people! For example, I have a semi realistic art style and it was helpful, but not everyone has a art style like me, it would be more helpful if they just drew many different types of belts,mouths,ect so an artist could choose what fit their art style
forewarning: please take this with a grain salt
okay, i've been observing a lot of art styles lately and been able to pick apart on how they have usually 3 rules:
1. FUNCTIONALITY
- the art follows a certain logic and structure that makes sense to the viewer. this helps in recognition, which in turn helps the audience dive into the art work deeper.
2. ACCESS/ CONNECTION
- like nuts and bolts, these details connect the logic of the art expands the meaning and expression of a piece.
3. ARTISTIC CHOICE
- this is where style comes in. these are details that enhance the work further, letting the artist express themselves. whether it be detailed rendering or silhouetted design choices, they provide uniqueness to pieces.
now, i'm gonna make an example of this. imagine a door; usually when we see doors, we imagine a large slab of a certain material (wood, metal, etc.), that can open and close that's connected to a wall right? we use it to provide exit and entrance; this is the FUNCTION. but how can we open it? of course, we need to have a door knob; this is the ACCESS/ CONNECTION. it helps us use the function so we can use it for what it is. but the door is a little bland, why not add some carvings or paint, a.k.a. our ARTISTIC CHOICE? our choice depends on what were going for or what we think is best suited for our set aesthetic; do we want an inticrate one or a minimalistic one? eitherway, that's what we decide, and that tells us on how we're unique.
hope that helps!
I’m curious how people here feel about Lavendertowne’s “don’t do this, do that” videos. The title definitely is not my favorite thing but I think it’s chosen because it does better in the TH-cam algorithm that way, and she usually clarifies in the videos that they aren’t actually strict rules, just the advice that she likes. Most importantly to me, she explains the _reason_ behind her tips.
That’s what these images lack (unless there’s missing context in the video). They don’t explain what makes one thing ‘wrong’ and the other ‘right’, which I think is critical for younger/newer artists to figure out what works for them and what doesn’t.
The nail tutorial has some context from a Japanese artist, I think the tutorial is about how to make hands more feminine I think, not really sure tho, his tips in context are great, especially the ones about heels in perspective
If you read and watch enough stuff you realize there is a lot of different ways to draw basically everything and unless you are doing something realistic leaving out some details is completely fine. If there was only 1 answer to art everything would be really boring.
Honestly, sometimes real hands look so awful and "unrealistic" I think it's just necessary to cheat to make them... erh... understandable. That's what's wonderful about being an artist. You can change whatever bother you according to your own tastes.
3:17 don't forget people who want to draw unhealthy biting there nail
bruhhh!!! so true!!!
@@MohammedAgbadi people who make these types of tutorial forget that perfection isn't always desired in designs of character
@@dhiaa9082 Heck, perfection doesn’t even exist in real life lol.
@@peggedyourdad9560 people with that level of ego thing that there word is law sooo they wouldn't really see reality as it is
!!!! I JUST found your channel via your art advice video from a month ago! I’m so excited to see that you JUST uploaded 😭 I’ve never subscribed so fast. It nice to see more black artists on TH-cam.
thank you so much!!
Gotta love the dos and don’ts videos. Where for some reason think other artist shouldn’t draw other things that way and most of the tips they have are wrong af 😰
incredibly wrong
@@MohammedAgbadi majestically wrong even
The do's and dont's tutotial makers gives the same vibes as the people who says "if youre homeless just buy a house"
In general in the art community there seems to be a pervasive idea of "REALISM GUD, CARTOON BAAAD". While its important to know your fundamentals, its absolutely not wrong to draw and stylize however you please. If drawing simple cartoony things is what gives you enjoyment, then by all means. I just really dislike these tutorials, they sometimes have a good point, but most of the time it all spins back to the tired "REALISM GUUUUD, CARTOON BAAAD" BS...
My biggest gripe with these are that they are one situation and don’t explain why it looks like that. You can show me how to draw an arm from the side but I’ll be clueless for above or other angles. Tell me why it looks like that, explain it don’t just give me a single situation
lmaooo they expect everyone to be a learner in one thing and an expert in everything else
Not all art tips are created equal. That is why we have the legendary Mohammed Agbadi to show us the way
Great video, honestly. It's all down to how the artist wants to do their work. I mean, as a viewer of art, you can say "that looks ugly" and so on. But, someone else might like it. That's the beautiful thing about art.
As an aside, that page probably posts them *because* they are contentious. It drives engagement.
I would like it if, instead of saying „right“ and „wrong“, they would be titled more like a suggestion saying „how about you try doing it this way instead“… because I think they can be great inspiration when searching for ways to change up one‘s art style, without meaning to make it „better“ or „worse“, just ideas to try something different. For example showing the gums. When I saw it I found it great and would love to just try it out as a change. So why not just treat as alternatives instead of like ideals?
5:49 is me how i draw headshots on the ''don't'' side lmao
lmaooo
They seem to be giving ‘art tips’ by saying “stop simplifying”. Instead, it would be much more helpful if they actually explained HOW to simplify.
Some of the tutorials are actually correct ,they are posted by some artists in their respective accnts which is heavily based on their style,to their audience who like and want to learn their respective style ,but these accnts repost those tutorials to the audience where artsists with so many art styles gather and dont even write a proper caption , so many of them look wrong,like the mouth one,may be it was by an artists who draws their mouths like that and shows their audience that "i like drawing gums,it looks better in my drawings"
,but some are wrong no matter by whom or where it is posted
I hate those Instagram pages. They just repost tutorials from other people usually without crediting the original artists. That's how they get so many posts so frequently. Instagram does some really weird scammy stuff to get you to follow pages like this as they make the follow button right where most people click their dm notification, so in clicking on a notification you might accidentally follow someone you didn't mean to as well.
Thank you for the comments on nails. I just finished illustrations for a children's book and the fingernails drove me crazy with drawing and redrawing them before I was satisfied they looked right in the style I was using. I got a few weird looks from the kids when they caught me inspecting their nails and trying to age them back.
I didnt learn this until a few months in, but unique styles are honestly better. My favorite preference of art, though realistic is beautiful, is exaggerated styles. I really love the hands in Klaus (movie); they're wrong yes, but not artistically, just proportions, but they look so much flipping better imo
I love your content :)
thankyou!!!
It's funny because even in art that leans on the more realistic side, the artist would choose which details to either omit or add, or maybe even push the gesture rather copy 1:1 from reference. Context and purpose will always go first.
Specifying when and how to use your skills is so important. For example, if someone was to perform surgery they would do it completely wrong if they broke the world record for fastest runner. These are both skills you can use, it’s just when and how
My least favorite are freckle tutorials, as they always say that freckles along the nose bridge and cheeks are wrong when my freckles are LITERALLY JUST LIKE THAT
Same, I have tons of freckles there. How is that wrong??
I used to follow the "don't do this do that" advice cause I'm still learning with digital art, lemme tell you it didn't end well. Thought for a while I just couldn't draw and I just stopped for half of last year.
I like art tips but just, not the comparison part, if that makes any sense. It's very useful to see how an artist draws a specific part or feature of a scene or character for refrenses and if you'd like to expand you style more, but when they begin to compare it to another way is when the attention is lost. I feel like these tips come from yourger or less "integrated" artists who changed their style and ended up liking that feature more, and decided that other must like it as well. I feel like this type of thing should be more of a "hey, this is how I draw this!" instead of a "this is how you should draw this." kind of thing.
I really appreciated that you put subtitles in the bottom, because some of your followers are Spanish-spoken. And TH-cam auto generated subs and awful. So thanks🙏
Both the do and don't belts are realistic. There are many styles of belts, including ones that have velcro on the back so the buckle will lay flat like a cartoon. So regardless of art style there is nearly no incorrect way to draw a belt.
I've seen these tutorials countless times on Instagram and i just never find them helpful in the artstyle I'm using. I'm firmly believer of "Art is subjective" thing and these tutorials never seems to reflect on that.
Because of these tutorials, I appreciate the long, 'overloaded-with-detail' tutorials because atleast they explain why they chose the thing they chose
For the artist who said just cover the parts you can’t symmetrically draw with hair, at this point my characters will just be mummies
The best way to do something wrong is by understanding how to do it right. You can draw the way you want but if you dont know the basic skills on drawing you should just study more so that you can draw the way you want
The thing that really gets me about the neck tip at 7:00 is that if your drawings face looks like *that*, you're clearly not aiming for realistic shapes on the body to begin with, so why police how realistic the neck is if you're not gonna apply that anywhere else
I always hated drawing ears, so I designed and very simple way to do that, in 15 years of my career, no one ever complained 😂
I literally have two types of nails. The first two (thumb and first finger) has the round tip, the last three have the square-like shape. I can basically reference my own nails.
I really dislike it when this comes up on my fyp. It was fine the first few times but after a while it pissed me off. I thought there was something wrong with me so I'm happy that there are people addressing this.
every art tutorial wants you to draw professionally and copy their work exactly when you first start, OR its literally for 3-year-olds and too simple
Honestly I never got or understand any art tips because of my artstyle. Whether the art tip is okay or not. When I attended art classes all they taught me was shading and shapes, but since my parents decided to not let me attend art classes (which is after my violin classes every saturday since they are connected) because they knew I was self taught. I only got inspirations but I never searched up for art tips until I got tiktok. (sorry if this might be off topic)
i love how serious this commentary vid is. I always though most of these posts are memes
3:04 oh nooo!! They just said, that my nail is incorrect!!!
Them horse legz
lmaoooo man don't miss leg dayz
Ah yes, the first tutorial.
Cartoon leg/arm versus semi-realistic
This all reminds me of when I used to watch Mark Crilley when I was younger. He’d always say in his art tutorials “When I say the correct way, it’s not THE correct way.”
I've gotten used to watching your videos as soon as I see them in my sub box, and it makes me happy 🔥🔥👌👌
Help, Everytime he shows the man anatomy
with belt accessories thing I have gay panic
There are also these tutorials that say "do this not that" but the don't are usually just a more simplistic way of drawing something, making it look like there's only one way of drawing things
which is why i don't understand how they end up patronising them like they are the end all be all
dont EVER listen to random instagram art advice. so much of it is pretentious, and a lot of the time when they steal photos from other people, they dont even include the entire tutorial.
they phrase things like "the correct way" or "dont do this..." which makes it sound like they're disregarding art styles (realism vs cartoon , etc etc)
Am I in love with Mohammed voice yes 🙄but that’s no ones business 😭but omg I’m always looking forward to his videos idk just chilling and drawing with him playing in the background is just a big fat mood 🖤🖤
👁👄👁 WHY DONT YOU HAVE A TWITCH
Tutorial: Gums are hot af
Me showing my gums: *nightmare fuel*
Don't draw bad. Just draw good.
Me, who draws chibi style: I guess I draw bad
I love you so much for playing John WIck in the background.
9:12 I have to contort my mouth so much to get my gums to show that it makes me incapable of even making that expression at that point.
That's where I learned everything I know today
****panikkkkk
the nail post makes me laugh because the "wrong" nail is the kind of nail i have, which is a broad, flat nail with short tips and it kind of flares out from the base.
✨ How to draw lips ✨
- Draw 3 Circles
- Connect them
- Add detail!!!!
Then you have some nice hyper-realistic lips!!!
I think what I hate about the art accounts is that they take some of the tutorials without taking the context from the original artist. Like the "no/yes teeth" example with the gums, what if the original artist meant it as a joke/satire coz that's how they prefer their characters, but the art tutorial page just presents it as "fact from the artist". yeah,
I enjoyed this video and would like to see more like this. Also, these kinds of art tips can confuse so so much and are just not helpful, thank you for calling them out!
thank you so much! More to come!
my gums show when i smile... now I understand why everyone stays away from me
Thank you for using the Tim Allen grunt sound effect. Really put a smile on my face to hear.
12:50
I was half expecting a slidebelt sponsorship.
I love your glasses! So cool. Great video.
agree, although the process to question and to set up the personal preference , to draw in a certain style is a good thing....so your video should be rather the pretext of their "right" and "wrong" "tips, to give an artist food for thought to decide how to draw things. I think there is no better way to get people look at their fingernails than this "right"/"wrong" pic and decide for themself how to draw them :)
Not defending it but bad examples are also helpfull in learning.
Anyway not drawing for a long time, but I enjoy your videos, keep it up!!
I love your videos!! All of this really help me improving my own art :). Also… where did you get those glasses??? I love them so much!!
This is why I tend to use step-by-step tutorials or just rl references, really. I always thought there was something off about those don't do/do this art tips, but only after following your channel that I've realized why they tend to be stupid.
My art style is literally most of the don’ts. Whelp, guess I’ll just stop drawing 😭
Learning to draw features: ☝🏾🤓
Covering up features with things: 💪🏾😪
Drawing the gums when my characters are smiling or something in my style makes them look like they’re at the dentist😂
Any kind of attention is beneficial on social media. They probably know that people will disagree and complain, but they keep posting, cause all those comments are just helping the creator (the algorithm loves it).
Art is art, if your six years old and you draw a stick figure with triangular hair, that’s still art, it’s a drawing- 👏 -some people think art has to be a specific way.
6:36 that one caught me by surprise 💀
My gums show when i smile and now i feel like an Evil Monster 😭
02:49 when your nail literally looks like the wrong one
FINALLY. Those do and don’t art tips have always been garbage in my opinion. They’re almost condescending to me. Like, what do they expect us to say in response? “You mean I shouldn’t draw poorly? I’ve been doing it wrong the whole time!”