In today's video we see the white tower rush in its full glory. We used this strategy all the way up to conqueror 2 level! #aoe4 #ageofempires4 #ageofempiresiv
@@FarmManOfficial I bought new gaming laptop to play this game after watching xqc play. I wouldav bought one sometime anyway but couldn't resist not playing
This just looks like winning for the sake of winning, no elegance in it. It works, but it's just nasty. I would just surrender and find someone else to play with, not even feeling sorry for the lost points.
@@FarmManOfficial So many things can go wrong with this build. I'd like to see a compilation of different attempts at this, would be amusing and educational. If you have time! I think getting palisades and gates up around your White Tower area after it goes up might be a big help for protecting your siege engines and crossbows as they countersiege you. I also feel that early trebuchets are key in many cases, but maybe that's just me.
I think it's been almost a year since I knew that "dirty strategy". Textiles and good placement of the White tower are important to execute that cheese well.
xD its actually kinda fun, because its not as OP as it might look, have to be really sneaky and drag enemy army away from the drop point sometimes. also after the white tower goes up, if enemy goes castle age with landmark outside tower range, they're okay so you get to have some fun making trebs and put them inside palisade wall section, mangonels etc
@@FarmManOfficial I just tried it. 3 easy wins. Then I played French and I did the same build but built the White Tower in my base but got jumped by knights and they killed too many of my vills building the landmark and then it was just a slow bleed out to defeat as I didn't have the eco. Then I played English and they sussed out my White Tower and pulled all vills and with their vills and horsmen they rinsed my vills building the White Tower. It didn't help that I buggered the macro and didn't get textiles but even still, I think I was toast. Definitely stoppable if they suss out early enough what I'm up to.
Possibly, but it's risky if all players go for it. If 4v4 maybe the two middle players can do with the two players on the side can make army to make sure the towers get built
@@FarmManOfficial For real. It can be tricky to scout, too, because it's so tempting to keep your scout home to help spot for the king raids. Also, nearly everyone else is going 2 TC off the Abbey opener...this is a brutal cheese in the current meta!
Farm man I know you seen xqc stream and I see your videos pop on his TH-cam on stream. You know you targeted this lmao shade and I have been trying to get him on duos not to snipe but to befriend
It's a fun challenge to see how high the strategy can go. Its not a bug abuse or cheating so I don't see it as any different from the Mongols tower rush strategies. In any case its very easy to stop and counter for most civilisations. It just has to be scouted and villagers intercepted with units
@@FarmManOfficial As an admittedly mediocre abbasid/ayyubid player I don't love it. The english matchup is already really strong. If I spot the villagers on gold and try to put pressure I get drawn into a feudal conflict where english has the advantage. If I try to FC I won't have enough units to stop the white castle drop. And even if I manage to siege the white tower down it only costs wood to repair it. It's not cheating - its a legit strategy. I just don't like having a white castle defending like 5 rams in my base before 10 minutes. It's not fun.
Man, idk, kinda like the content but every "strategy" i see like this, makes me wanna leave the game, i don't understand how "funny" would be do this to your opponent? Feels like doing old mongol TC rushing to me.
Hey there dude! If you scout it , react to it and stop it how would that make you feel? 😎 I get what you're saying but this particular strategy at best is one that people would dislike facing up against as a preference, just how some people hate facing up against players that turtle or 2-3 TCS or players that Mongol outpost rush. Mongols TC rush was actually just OP/broken and almost impossible to stop whereas this white tower strategy can and should be stopped if people are scouting. Please don't uninstall the game, scout it, kill it and then laugh about it 💪👌👍
@@FarmManOfficial haha no uninstalling cause this, but makes me feel weird about it, cause I faced mongol TC rush and I could stop it with scout + quick wall, so if I can stop it, it's op? No but it's just oppressive for the other player, first player just put TC into others base and the other player has a lot of fun, while the alarm gets triggered every 7 seconds, why they nerfed barbican? Cause it was so fun to play against, this is almost same concept
Fair 👌👍 I respect that take because I kinda hate playing up against mongols tower rush also. But yeah, this strat can be countered well by most civs as long as scouting is there
thank you for the nice build. what if the opponent chose not to go fast castle, but to make a solid feudal? typically English feudal age have much more longbows then, giving it's Eng vs Eng mirror game.
Absolutely, the idea is to try and be as sneaky as possible. I had one game vs english where they made alot of army, but i kept scouting to see where army is and when they move their army out to your base you can start building the landmark. That way their army is out of position and too slow to get back. Its still tough but it can work sometimes with the aid of the king. The key is to remain undetected for as long as possible an for their army to be out of position. Same principle if playing against french or jeanne d'arc
Would sending dark age spears to the deer pack be enough to deny this? Or would it take tower rushing the deer pack and/or normal Feudal aggression to shut it down?
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new guide for xQc just dropped
Haha, it's been great that he's playing, hopefully new eyes on aoe4!
can anyone forward this to him? :D
that would actually be hilarious
Ah the sound effects are good for the young ones lot of aoe4 community super old and it’s hilarious lol
@@FarmManOfficial I bought new gaming laptop to play this game after watching xqc play. I wouldav bought one sometime anyway but couldn't resist not playing
This just looks like winning for the sake of winning, no elegance in it. It works, but it's just nasty. I would just surrender and find someone else to play with, not even feeling sorry for the lost points.
There are guys who find "funny" win with these "strategies", sad.
why do you say that?
It doesn't work
Hilarious stuff. I was doing this for a while before the king patch, but nowhere near as efficiently. Kudos.
🙌🏻 the free English king really helps with this now too!
@@FarmManOfficial So many things can go wrong with this build. I'd like to see a compilation of different attempts at this, would be amusing and educational. If you have time! I think getting palisades and gates up around your White Tower area after it goes up might be a big help for protecting your siege engines and crossbows as they countersiege you. I also feel that early trebuchets are key in many cases, but maybe that's just me.
I think it's been almost a year since I knew that "dirty strategy". Textiles and good placement of the White tower are important to execute that cheese well.
👍👍yep its been for a while i guess, free king now also really helps with it in this patch xD
@@FarmManOfficial Right, you've already tempted me to do the dirty deed xD.
xD its actually kinda fun, because its not as OP as it might look, have to be really sneaky and drag enemy army away from the drop point sometimes. also after the white tower goes up, if enemy goes castle age with landmark outside tower range, they're okay so you get to have some fun making trebs and put them inside palisade wall section, mangonels etc
Farmy giving PTSD to all aoe community everytime they see an English player now 🤣. Keep bringing tu us more awesome cheese Loosey Goosey ❤
😁🙌👌🤓
That was one of the most fun streams ever. I was there
🙌🏻🙌🏻👌👌
Would love to see some clown car'n as well.
🙌 vroom vroom! 🙌
This build is old as the game itself, but I guess that the King can buy enough time to pull it off
Free king deffo helps!
@@FarmManOfficial I just tried it. 3 easy wins. Then I played French and I did the same build but built the White Tower in my base but got jumped by knights and they killed too many of my vills building the landmark and then it was just a slow bleed out to defeat as I didn't have the eco. Then I played English and they sussed out my White Tower and pulled all vills and with their vills and horsmen they rinsed my vills building the White Tower. It didn't help that I buggered the macro and didn't get textiles but even still, I think I was toast. Definitely stoppable if they suss out early enough what I'm up to.
100% vs french or English you have to have started building before they spot you otherwise it usually wouldn't work tbh
English mirror is the only time I go council hall these days. The matchup is determined by who masses the biggest longbow ball
But what will u do after u placed the white tower
Rams Rams Rams. + 1-2 mangonels, maybe a treb but building palisade walls in front of it also sometimes 😁
Who did you say helped optimize this build?
Someone called Der Berliner in twitch chat
Could you somehow pull this off in team games?
Possibly, but it's risky if all players go for it. If 4v4 maybe the two middle players can do with the two players on the side can make army to make sure the towers get built
they took men to my base and kill my eco 🤦♂️
Omg, that's really insane. But. How can you win against the holy Roman empire. I hate to face em
Great work.
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Thanks. I hate it.
I can understand that lol. I gotta say though it will at least force people to scout more rather than brain dead build orders 😛.
@@FarmManOfficial For real. It can be tricky to scout, too, because it's so tempting to keep your scout home to help spot for the king raids. Also, nearly everyone else is going 2 TC off the Abbey opener...this is a brutal cheese in the current meta!
Any proper build order guide for this? Like what would the build order look like in ideal situation?
it´s just ezz for u cause u play american timezone / servers, american conq1=dia1 eu
Farm man I know you seen xqc stream and I see your videos pop on his TH-cam on stream. You know you targeted this lmao shade and I have been trying to get him on duos not to snipe but to befriend
Why are you putting this out in the world? do you know how many times this happens to me? 😢
It's a fun challenge to see how high the strategy can go. Its not a bug abuse or cheating so I don't see it as any different from the Mongols tower rush strategies.
In any case its very easy to stop and counter for most civilisations. It just has to be scouted and villagers intercepted with units
@@FarmManOfficial As an admittedly mediocre abbasid/ayyubid player I don't love it. The english matchup is already really strong. If I spot the villagers on gold and try to put pressure I get drawn into a feudal conflict where english has the advantage. If I try to FC I won't have enough units to stop the white castle drop. And even if I manage to siege the white tower down it only costs wood to repair it. It's not cheating - its a legit strategy. I just don't like having a white castle defending like 5 rams in my base before 10 minutes. It's not fun.
yeah this bs works even better in empire wars
Imagine if it happened in RedBull Wololo. xD I'm sure it wouldn't have, but ya know, we can dream xD
@@FarmManOfficial That would be epic if a cheese strat won the tourney!
Man that would be so epic 😅
Man, idk, kinda like the content but every "strategy" i see like this, makes me wanna leave the game, i don't understand how "funny" would be do this to your opponent? Feels like doing old mongol TC rushing to me.
Hey there dude! If you scout it , react to it and stop it how would that make you feel? 😎
I get what you're saying but this particular strategy at best is one that people would dislike facing up against as a preference, just how some people hate facing up against players that turtle or 2-3 TCS or players that Mongol outpost rush.
Mongols TC rush was actually just OP/broken and almost impossible to stop whereas this white tower strategy can and should be stopped if people are scouting. Please don't uninstall the game, scout it, kill it and then laugh about it 💪👌👍
@@FarmManOfficial haha no uninstalling cause this, but makes me feel weird about it, cause I faced mongol TC rush and I could stop it with scout + quick wall, so if I can stop it, it's op? No but it's just oppressive for the other player, first player just put TC into others base and the other player has a lot of fun, while the alarm gets triggered every 7 seconds, why they nerfed barbican? Cause it was so fun to play against, this is almost same concept
Shame on you
What why? Do you say shame on you to anyone who does a strategy you don't like? 😱 Are you okay with Mongols tower rushing?
@@FarmManOfficial im not ok with that at all actually
Fair 👌👍 I respect that take because I kinda hate playing up against mongols tower rush also. But yeah, this strat can be countered well by most civs as long as scouting is there
thank you for the nice build.
what if the opponent chose not to go fast castle, but to make a solid feudal?
typically English feudal age have much more longbows then, giving it's Eng vs Eng mirror game.
Absolutely, the idea is to try and be as sneaky as possible. I had one game vs english where they made alot of army, but i kept scouting to see where army is and when they move their army out to your base you can start building the landmark. That way their army is out of position and too slow to get back. Its still tough but it can work sometimes with the aid of the king. The key is to remain undetected for as long as possible an for their army to be out of position. Same principle if playing against french or jeanne d'arc
@@FarmManOfficial i see. so the point of this strategy is to try being sneaky at preparing and dropping. thank you.
where is the build order???
Would sending dark age spears to the deer pack be enough to deny this? Or would it take tower rushing the deer pack and/or normal Feudal aggression to shut it down?
You wouldn't know its the strat till you see the vill pull
@@madmat114 Is it really that common to pull villagers to deer in dark age in other English builds?
@@StartCodonUST all vills yea for sure its uncommon also for deer as its usually back of base or either side and only about 6 vills to deer not all
This dumb shit only works up to gold, maybe silver.
The video shows that I get to conq 2 with it. Thanks for your input though.
How to do the formation shuffling 9:34
Spam click move commands but to make vills move direction a little causes formation shuffling usually