Chris Moltisanti and Jessie Pinkman compared: A Sopranos, Breaking Bad crossover episode

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  • In this, the first part of a two part series, we will compare Christopher Moltisanti and Jesse Pinkman by starting with their first and last scenes, then moving on to their penchant with the ladies, their drug problems, their relationships, their tendency to punch above their weight and their personality in general.

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  • @thepsychofunboyartist
    @thepsychofunboyartist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

    Jesse is a good guy he just made some mistakes and the bettle thing actually matters alot.

    • @MrYac-ie8ie
      @MrYac-ie8ie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      "good guys" don't go to AA meetings to sell meth even when they're being paid lots of money just because "i'm a criminal yo"

    • @bullywhispers9544
      @bullywhispers9544  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thoughts everyone?

    • @thepsychofunboyartist
      @thepsychofunboyartist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@MrYac-ie8ie Like I said he made mistakes

    • @Fredrickthe2nd
      @Fredrickthe2nd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@thepsychofunboyartist no, he knew what he was doing when he did it and faced the consequences and continued doing it and he did show remorse and sadness over this but he didn’t stop only when he had enough money did he stop, and only when he wanted to get revenge did he try to get any sort of justice for the people he and Walter White wronged

    • @MrYac-ie8ie
      @MrYac-ie8ie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@thepsychofunboyartist he did, and i don't think he was nearly as bad as many of our other players in BB, but not being the worst piece of crap in the game doesn't make you good. he certainly became better as the show went on but i don't think he ever reached "good" in my opinion.

  • @steverambo4692
    @steverambo4692 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +219

    I think Nacho Varga is a far better comparison seeing as they’re both introduced as being in the life but regretting it. Nacho of course redeems himself while Chris sinks deeper

    • @erikjohnson5549
      @erikjohnson5549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      They also both end up dead in the end.

    • @faisalkamal4319
      @faisalkamal4319 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      but one goes out epic while the other pinched by a man with small hands

    • @joevlam1055
      @joevlam1055 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesse isn't this hapless victim like most ppl seem to think he is he's a pos just like Walt just like Chris amd Tony. He's a drug dealing murderer that has childlike tendencies

    • @mNex00
      @mNex00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@faisalkamal4319his hands never had the makings of a varsity athlete

    • @CornelioLazarus-sg4gx
      @CornelioLazarus-sg4gx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@faisalkamal4319 It won't be cinematic.

  • @onemoreminute0543
    @onemoreminute0543 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Nah, Chrissy was a good kid. Look at what happened with little Collette - the dog crawled under him to get some warmth!

  • @issaphae9659
    @issaphae9659 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    i’ve always loved comparing these two characters and their toxic relationships with their respective father figures. great video!

    • @anthonypiranio7409
      @anthonypiranio7409 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Jessie would be afraid if he met christopher.

    • @Hexic920
      @Hexic920 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@anthonypiranio7409more like repulsed

  • @KOVIDGOON
    @KOVIDGOON 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +235

    CHRISTOPHAAAAA!

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I did dent

    • @onemoreminute0543
      @onemoreminute0543 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Christofuh

    • @hinkhall5291
      @hinkhall5291 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      WHAAAA!

    • @KOVIDGOON
      @KOVIDGOON 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 she must've crawled under there for warmth!RIP COSETTE

    • @mathiaswilhelm1902
      @mathiaswilhelm1902 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      JESSEE!

  • @theantone7476
    @theantone7476 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    A meeting between Christopher and Jesse would be fasinating

    • @marcusking8507
      @marcusking8507 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesse would likely despise Christopher, while Christopher would think of Jesse as weak.

  • @TheOfficialButthead
    @TheOfficialButthead 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    "That's the man adriana, my teacher, walter white. That's the man I'm going to hell for."

  • @KittySnicker
    @KittySnicker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Jesse is a much better person than Chris. He cared about kids and he never beat women.

    • @CaptainTrips560
      @CaptainTrips560 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      It’s honestly insulting to Jesse to even compare them

    • @Donut_Sprinkle
      @Donut_Sprinkle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed to both of these comments

    • @jessjess23brooks89
      @jessjess23brooks89 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jesse was a much better person than the majority of Sopranos cast. We don't mind rooting for him to succeed, while we root for the Soprano "family" despite ourselves.
      I mean, even Paulie who is the main comedic relief ended up killing a little old lady.

    • @WiredLain_
      @WiredLain_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Christopher cared about his daughter as well. But yeah Jesse was a better person overall

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@jessjess23brooks89Paulie despite being comedic-relief was still probably the scummiest from all of Tony's gloryfied Crew.

  • @nickchavez720
    @nickchavez720 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Something important to remember when comparing the two is the Chris was raised in the mob environment and to him this was all normal. Jesse had for all intensive purposes a normal childhood, albiet a troubled one because he kept making dumb choices. Jesse had a frame of reference to what a normal, non criminal life, was like. Because of that Jesse had a more functioning moral compass. This is why Jesse finds redemption and gets out.
    Chris never had that. All he knew was the life. That is why he doesnt learn and keeps making the same mistakes. He has no other frame of reference to judge the situation. Its also why he is much more comfortable committing horrible crimes compared the Jesse and lacks any real remorse. There was no way for him to ever get out.

  • @MrJchris97
    @MrJchris97 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Christopher definitely had an arc

    • @nintendogeek9314
      @nintendogeek9314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And you know who else had an arc? Noah

  • @cyrusamaria
    @cyrusamaria 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    We need a video on Mike. He’s unique in the sense that he works for Gus, but it really an independent contractor.
    And also he is who Tony wants to be.

    • @ruyacloud9016
      @ruyacloud9016 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Mike Vs SIlvio comparison.

    • @slingblade6651
      @slingblade6651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      The strong, silent type. Whateva happened to Gary coopah!? Dats what I wanna know!

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slingblade6651whatever happened there?! Whatever happened there?!!! I’ll tell u what happened this fucks animal of a cousin killed him that’s what happened there.

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ruyacloud9016idk about Silvio I mean I really don’t think there’s any character on the sopranos that is really similar to mike but I guess out of all of them if I had to choose one idk maybe you’re right and Silvio would be the best choice. They’re both the number 2 and Silvio isn’t really as silent and reserved as mike but out of everyone else I guess he’s the closest

    • @j-rey-
      @j-rey- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 I think Furio is the closest to Mike. When he's not being an enforcer, he seems pretty well-adjusted and decent.

  • @NO-LIVAS
    @NO-LIVAS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is waltuh, the man I went to hell for

  • @Dominus564
    @Dominus564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Spoiler!
    Jesse had a lot more sympathy than Christopher. Christopher frequently declined in his drug use till his was beating Adriana and had her killed. Compare that to Jesse, who rarely killed anyone who wasn't a violent criminal or an active attacker. I think Gael was the only innocent person Jesse killed.

    • @Fredrickthe2nd
      @Fredrickthe2nd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I mean Gale wasn't an innocent person he made drugs and gave them to Gus to sell and help Gus make a lab to make more drugs to fuel Gus’s drug empire and make it so Gus can distribute more drugs hurting people and killing people hurting more people maybe he didn't know about Gus killing people but that's not that hard to deduce so Gale should have either thought of that or already knew so I would say Gale is far from innocent

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      even if gale knew nothing about what Gus was like he was a brilliant chemist so he obviously knew they were making meth so knowing that there’s no way u can consider him innocent

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven’t watched breaking bad in awhile so I’m not sure about this but isn’t gale the only person Jesse ever killed. Oh and I forgot his name but the redhead guy who’s uncle was the leader of the aryan gang I think they were the only 2 ppl Jesse killed right

    • @Fredrickthe2nd
      @Fredrickthe2nd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 the redhead's name is Todd and Jesse killed him along with somebody at the cartel house when Gus poisoned them he also killed those two in a shoot in the El Camino movie so Jesse killed Gale, the cartel man, Todd, and the 2 guys blackmailing and trying to kill him but that's also not including people he could've saved by turning Walter and himself in or people be got killed by involving them in the drug trade and by giving them drugs like Jane or how many times Walt has killed and gotten people killed to save Jesse so while didn't shoot them he was still a big reason if not the only reason they died like his girlfriend at the end

    • @_zigger_
      @_zigger_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chris murdered more people directly, but Jesse ruined way more innocent lives when he chose to make and sell drugs for a living

  • @manband20
    @manband20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    One thing worth mentioning in a future video is the different portrayal of the criminal life, specifically the background characters. Both shows have a colorful cast of secondary characters with quirky personalities, but both shows have very different views on how they became the people they are in their shows.
    David Chase wrote The Sopranos to be a deconstruction of mob life in a post-RICO Act (and eventually post-9/11) world. Gone are the days of massive parties in ballrooms, controlling US Senators, and being the real behind-the-scenes power in towns like Miami and Vegas. Now it's middle-aged men who hate themselves hanging out in the back of a pork store and hardware store "casino" while they wait for something to happen.
    And all of the mobsters are people who didn't graduate college (some not even high school) and they all speak like a bunch of blithering idiots (Paulie with his bestie Suntah Zoo; Tony with his revenge cold cuts; Chrissy being the hair apparent; and then there's whatever the fuck Little Carmine is) because they put the gang life over their education and self-betterment.
    Breaking Bad, meanwhile, does seem to glorify the life Walter lives, but when you really turn your brain on and read between the lines, you see just how broken our system is. A Nobel Prize winner has to cook meth to provide for his family after a cancer diagnosis. A genius lawyer becomes a "criminal" lawyer because the system hates him and his brother despised him. The "hero" of the story is a racist, sexist, macho man who puts his career above his marriage and commits numerous felonies in his quest to solve the mystery.
    And don't forget about the drug users with loads of potential who lost it all because of their addiction. Jesse could be professional artist. Skinny Pete was a classically trained pianist. Badger, though dumb as rocks, loves sci-fi and even wrote a script that he loves to talk to people about. It might not be as good as being loyle to his capo, but it's still a finished product and thus more than Chrissy could ever say he did (and Cleaver doesn't count because JT wrote it for him as a favor with Chrissy's supervision.)
    One show loves to dissect "the life" that had been romanticized for decades and shows how it leads to self-destruction and no chance at a future. The other talks about wasted potential and a society that screws over the little man and forces addiction and criminality to be the only "way out" from the situation they found themselves in.

    • @LucLB01
      @LucLB01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree on everything except one part. How is Walt a racist ?

    • @morningwoody4514
      @morningwoody4514 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@LucLB01He's talking about Hank.

    • @morningwoody4514
      @morningwoody4514 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I completely disagree with your sentiment on Breaking Bad, and it almost seems like you’re writing it as a projection of your grievances against the System.
      Walt had multiple opportunities to swallow his pride and come out far better than he actually did. This includes Walt being offered a job back at Grey Matter with insurance that would pay for his cancer treatments.
      Saul's story is similar. While his brother did screw him over in getting the job for HHM, Chuck was right about Jimmy in the end. For as much as Jimmy tries to talk about how the system tried to screw him over, him getting fired at the law firm (that Kim and Howard put their names on the line to put him in, by the way) was completely his fault. The moment Chuck gave even a small amount of resistance to Jimmy’s corner cutting and underhanded means, he went under the law firm's nose and made everyone there look bad.
      Jesse and his group of dumbasses, while tragic, is ultimately the same junkie story I’ve heard all my life. A flunky that had potential, but no ambition, that partied too hard and fried their brain on drugs. Jesse's story had the added bonus of showing what the typical teenager/young adult _thinks_ being a gangster is (slinging dope, banging supermodels, wearing gold chains, and getting into badass gunfights) versus what it actually is (preying on vulnerable people, watching kids get taken advantage of, constantly worrying if the person driving up to your door will be the one to blow your head off with a sawed-off, and watching all your friends die in gang disputes). Jesse, at least, has a happy ending and shows that some people can escape the life.
      I think what ultimately makes my point is the final conversation between Nacho's dad and Mike. That for all of Mike's talk about “doing right by people” and having a “code,” at the end of the day Mike is just another criminal that murders people for money and supports a system that exploits people while using his moral code in order to sleep better at night.

    • @LucLB01
      @LucLB01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@morningwoody4514 I’d argue even Hank isn’t a racist. Whenever he said something racist he did so to mess with his friend Gomey. I got plenty of friends from different origins and we tease each other with stereotypes and slurs all the time.

    • @newperve
      @newperve 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The system isn't at fault for Walt's money problems. He could easily have gotten a better job, the cancer treatments were expensive becauseb he wanted better ones than people get for free anywhere in the world, His teachers job came with insurance. Even the calculations he made included college for BOTH kids. Most families can't afford that. He wanted everything and did nothing to get it, until the possibility of meth came along. Even then he has the chance to take care of all his problems of he just takes the pity job.

  • @PrestonVance-k9v
    @PrestonVance-k9v 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bully “Street Talk” Whispers

  • @camq-py7bs
    @camq-py7bs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Also, huge difference Walt and Jessie came from basically nothing and took on other drug dealers on their own. Chrissy and Tony inherited a lot and also had more experience playing the game.. also Tony and Christopher got rid of bodies easier than Walt and Jessie did 😂.

    • @philleotardo7016
      @philleotardo7016 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chris had to relocate the body of his first murder twice. The ol dissolve them method works fine

  • @airconditionedrelco7099
    @airconditionedrelco7099 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    finally the video we all needed

  • @ketienne1021
    @ketienne1021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Christopher was never successful standing up for himself with Tony like Jesse did with Walt.

    • @j-rey-
      @j-rey- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Tony was a long-time soldier, Capo, then street boss in the American Mafia. Christowfuh couldn't talk back to Tony without getting his shit pushed in. Walt's entire drug arc lasted like one year. He and Jesse were more like partners, and Walt needed Jesse more than Tony needed Chris.

    • @dmcfail987
      @dmcfail987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂😂 that's definitely not true

    • @deadspace297
      @deadspace297 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't know about that, even richie and junior knew christ would tell Tony to go fuck himself, it was simply the type of role the mentor plays for them, Christ had no where to go without Tony, Jesse always had options.

    • @rossl5908
      @rossl5908 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What he fired a whole clip into his car

    • @raulquiroz7492
      @raulquiroz7492 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. It was a totally different relationship and situation.@@j-rey-

  • @James_Wisniewski
    @James_Wisniewski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In Jesse's defense, expanding their territory in season 2 was Walt's idea. Jesse was against it at first, for the obvious reason that other crews wouldn't take kindly to their presence. Walt talked him into going for it anyway, despite his reservations.

  • @cjisrael901
    @cjisrael901 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love when people speak on the correlation between these two characters! There’s a lot there

  • @bartimaeus1887
    @bartimaeus1887 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting video idea well done, on a different note I gotta say I'm convinced if it weren't for Tony, Christopher would have ended up exactly like Jackie Jr, but Jackie Jr. could have been more like Chris if he'd had a mentor like Tony early on.

  • @Bigdih
    @Bigdih 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Christopher is just Jesse with a splash of Todd

  • @a.dot.mackaveli3469
    @a.dot.mackaveli3469 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tony sleeping with Christopher’s “GIrl” after he killed him is crazy asf

  • @scottregister200
    @scottregister200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a tease of a video! With 2 deep complicated characters like Chris and Jesse that is easy a 20-30 min video. You did an outline

  • @laurenpeterson9510
    @laurenpeterson9510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Nice intro!

  • @RobbaKeef
    @RobbaKeef 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Christopher ruled Jesse Pinkman drooled

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chrissy was a pathetic loser, blaming everyone for his misfortunes but not himself. At least Jesse moved forward

    • @joshuafult84
      @joshuafult84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PolishGod1234 Jesse was cringe

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshuafult84 nah

  • @yajy4501
    @yajy4501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Christopher is a far more complex character but Jesse is more sympathetic (in part because he’s less complex). Also I disagree that Christopher doesn’t have an arc (as funny as that is as a reference).

    • @Stewart1499
      @Stewart1499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is he more complex? 😭
      There’s 0 character development and he just has cringe dialogue and messes up the whole show.

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Definitely not more complex. We spend more time with Jesse through BrBa than with Christopher through Sopranos, and Christopher pretty much stays the same through the show - a worthless junkie who abuses his lover, who blames everyone for his shortcomings but not himself.

    • @keepitg770
      @keepitg770 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Stewart1499you definitely didn’t watch the show if you believe he had no character development lmao

    • @Stewart1499
      @Stewart1499 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@keepitg770 just finished it actually. He’s a loser druggie the whole show with the cringiest dialogue I’ve ever seen.

    • @plaidchuck
      @plaidchuck 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PolishGod1234sounds like you have a personal problem more than a real critique

  • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
    @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love the idea of this video because the debate on the topic of nature vs nurture is something that always interested me but unfortunately I feel as though it’s a topic that will never have a definitive answer. For Chris I would say it’s a bit of both because his father, father figure, and pretty much everyone in his life was involved in the mafia so naturally he also got involved but even if that wasn’t the case I believe he would have sought it out and still ended up in that life so even though his environment (nurture) was definitely a contributing factor I think it was more his nature. With Jesse I believe it was more nurture because he only got into that life because of his addiction so he started selling to support his addiction. He did do bad things and even kill but he didn’t want to and definitely didn’t enjoy it and he felt a lot of guilt and remorse for what he did so it really doesn’t seem to be in his nature and if he never got involved with drugs or became an addict I don’t think he would have ever got involved with that type of life so for Jesse I’m saying it was his environment (nurture).

  • @ArqAngilberto
    @ArqAngilberto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For me Jesse got more spirit, and got it better… that’s saying a lot. Walter really cared about him, and his friends too, also Mike. Chris was not loved by his mob family. Never.

  • @scottregister200
    @scottregister200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 of my all time favorite characters

  • @Bruno-bb9er
    @Bruno-bb9er 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jesse would probably treat Adriana better 100% than Chris.

  • @davidsmyth4184
    @davidsmyth4184 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Neither one of them could compare to Pop'n'Fresh

  • @ShowtimeAvenger
    @ShowtimeAvenger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Christopher Moltisanti=Live by the sword die by the sword
    Jesse Pinkman=To turn over a new leaf

  • @mike47734
    @mike47734 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jesse always reminded me of AJ

  • @minnumseerrund
    @minnumseerrund 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I see a lot of comments saying Jessie is a better person than Chris, and while that's probably true it's also neglecting the entire nature/nurture question. Chris was basically born into the mob. He grew up with an alcoholic mother, his dad died when he was a baby and was held up as a gangster saint by everybody he knew.
    Jessie was raised in a nice middle-class family, he had plenty of talents but never really applied himself - except for that damn box. He just decided to cook meth and ruin peoples' lives cause it was easy money. Yea, Chris does horrible shit but he started out from shit surrounded by shit people like Tony Soprano - no arc, no hope.
    Jessie is the opposite. We're shown exactly how his life could have been, illustrated by his kid brother. Hell, the very fact that he manages to become almost as good a cook as Walt shows that he's got a decent head on his shoulders and probably could've done well in school/higher education. He chose to throw all his advantages away to be a criminal - and then shit gets really bad and he realizes maybe that's not very nice. The only reason it feels like a redemption arc is that he is somewhat decent to women and children (compared to Chris) and the fact that he's mistreated and manipulated by his mentor (similar to Chris) and is held as a slave by the WP gang (also, at least metaphorically similar to how Chris is trapped in the mob).
    In conclusion, Jessie is an asshole by nature; Christopher became an asshole by nurture. Yea nah, obvs nothing is that simple but if you really wanna *TL;DR* it

    • @niocriste2705
      @niocriste2705 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not defending Jesse necessarily, Chris is easily the most interesting Sopranos character behind Tony and IMO a far more compelling character than Jesse Pinkman, but I did notice that Walt did find Jesse through his school records, which means he might've been living in his aunt's place for a significant chunk of his high school tenure.
      Also, I want to point out that regardless of nature vs nurture, there's a big difference between killing Gale to save Walt's ass and being a Junkie because of a manipulative girlfriend vs murdering a waiter because you were annoyed and being a Junkie who physically abused his partner, something that Silvio, Tony, Bobby, Johnny Sack, Phil, Mikey, etc never did.

  • @natedogg890
    @natedogg890 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Christopher was born into the mob and raised in poverty by an alcoholic mom, once Tony's tentacles sunk in, he never really had a chance. Jesse is a middle class white kid, raised in a "good" family, who fucked up over and over again despite all of the advantages he had. As someone who grew up pretty poor and surrounded by crime and drugs, I could never really relate to Jesse, but I could see how I could have become like Christopher if a few things had turned out different

  • @carlitobrigante330
    @carlitobrigante330 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting comparison. I hadn't considered until now that the dynamic between Walter White/Jesse Pinkman may well have been inspired by that between Tony/Chris.

  • @magicmoonmonke
    @magicmoonmonke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should do a sucessor swap with Chrissy and Jesse like you did that wife swap for Carmella and Skylar

  • @Buugzy
    @Buugzy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is nice and all, but Christopher would kill Jesse ina heartbeat.

  • @tommyx3090
    @tommyx3090 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chris was a psychopath, Jesse was not.

  • @Zachor322
    @Zachor322 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Both great characters but I prefer Chris' moral ambiguity and complexity. Jesse was cool, but he wasn't too complex of a character, and you could see how he felt in any given situation.

    • @chrisd2051
      @chrisd2051 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeah basically Chris was a gangster and Jesse was just some kid who got caught up in it

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chrisd2051even though Chris grew up around it with his father, father figure and pretty much everyone in his life around him being involved in that world I feel like he would still have the same mentality and seek out that kinda life even if he wasn’t always around it

    • @saulwalle
      @saulwalle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942I disagree. Just look at real mobsters. You won't find a single one that wasn't heavily exposed to it from a young age. Maybe not the whole family like Chris but they grew up in those neighborhoods and had significant exposure to the life. You can't be drawn to something you're not even exposed to and it's unlikely that he'd be welcomed by them even if he did

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saulwalle there have been mobsters that didn’t grow up in it but still ended up in that life and look at joe pistone he was an FBI agent that went undercover in the bonanno family and was almost made even though nobody knew him b4 getting involved with him

    • @anthonyfernandez82
      @anthonyfernandez82 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "moral ambiguity" was just him being an asshole for most of the show

  • @greatlikechickfila1333
    @greatlikechickfila1333 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is gonna be a good one

  • @alyssarichardson2544
    @alyssarichardson2544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:55 accurate

  • @loonanite
    @loonanite 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Between the 2 of them, the wrong guy was killed. Jesse is a sissy that couldn't hang while Christopher was down for his crime.

    • @joshuafult84
      @joshuafult84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% Jesse was cringe and corny.

  • @peterrowan-bx4ci
    @peterrowan-bx4ci 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Skinny Pete ain’t no fool

  • @JamiePBenson
    @JamiePBenson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jessie nothing like jackie jr

  • @damienfinnegan8272
    @damienfinnegan8272 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To be fair Jesse is a good guy when compared to his peers.

    • @_zigger_
      @_zigger_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, that doesn't mean that he is good, that means that he is too weak for the business in which he is

    • @bruce3242
      @bruce3242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@_zigger_Not being able to violently murder people, doesn't make you weak

  • @ino7604
    @ino7604 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Christopher and Jesse both are interesting characters. Christopher is a horrible person and Jesse is a good guy.

  • @slothy710
    @slothy710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderful video you earned a sub no doubt! I always preferred Chrissy’s character for some reason i really can’t explain, Christopher is a lot more relatable imo

    • @jamorant8849
      @jamorant8849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You like beating your girlfriend ?

  • @rossl5908
    @rossl5908 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chris was a scumbag Jesse was just lost

  • @gregoryporch8395
    @gregoryporch8395 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chris was deeper into coke or meth when the series began, that's definitely how Brandon & Chris were before he tries heroin in season 2.
    As for Jesse, Jane's drug problem was convenient but it's not why Walter let her die. He paid Jesse out a couple nights before that and when Walter asked how he could trust them, Jane shrugged that he can't.

    • @CaptainTrips560
      @CaptainTrips560 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tbh, Chrissy was probably doing heroin before the series began. Ade talks about Chris shooting up in early S2. I’m sure there’s exceptions & my anecdotal experiences don’t mean anything, but I’ve personally never known anyone who started with needles. People usually start by snorting or smoking it. So he was probably already an addict by S2, he was just a functional one.
      Then once he got made things kept getting worse & he stopped being functional pretty quickly

  • @joelj1187
    @joelj1187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like both but the sopranos was much better better writing and imo the main characters had more depth not to mention fucking James gandolfini !

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imo Cranston was better in terms of acting, but yeah -Tony is more complex than Walt as character.
      Writing is debatable, Sopranos is superior in terms of humor but BrBa has better writing in terms of how It ties everything together without having any filler scenes.

  • @EnanoMcNugget
    @EnanoMcNugget 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I havent seen this exact topic in 8-9 years

  • @melissah9125
    @melissah9125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amen. Very well done.

  • @arturverbickij4804
    @arturverbickij4804 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesse was manipulated by Walt into thinking he owns the city

  • @zicenterprizes6116
    @zicenterprizes6116 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesse funny af hes just a wannabe gangster who later on regrets the life and hates it and what he does to innocent people.

    • @zicenterprizes6116
      @zicenterprizes6116 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's funny bc in the beginning he's just a big pussy trying look gangster but later on accepts who he really is and accepts he's no tuco or even walter.

  • @brobsty1856
    @brobsty1856 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nobody pulled better than AJ.. NOBODY

  • @dannygandolfini4517
    @dannygandolfini4517 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    jesse was more along the lines of jackie jr

  • @Void7.4.14
    @Void7.4.14 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everybody points out similar stuff, Jesse seems like a decent guy that got over his head and did some bad things while Chrissy seems like not such a good guy, etc, etc, etc. Thats all pretty obvious. The thing I really find more fascinating is the why.
    Yes, Jesse had a drug problem and obviously just didn't fit into his parents yuppie lifestyle and all that, but he had options. He had alternatives. He coulds taken a ton of other routes.
    That cannot be said for Chris. Dad is dead but leaves a serious legacy that most kids would attempt to follow if left in that environment, mom has disappeared into a bottle with her own mental health conditions thats she's tryna overcome, his whole family, friend, and a significant part of his acquaintance groups would all he mobbed up, and with this as the case it's almost certain that his uncles and cousins (like Tony) were grooming him for the life from a very young age. So what chance did he really ever have of being anything else?
    The same is true for a lotta those guys. Sure, some are just straight psychopaths that excel in the underworld cause they can be cutthroat and don't mind hurting people physically, financially, whatever. But there's a lotta data surrounding guys who's dads or other close family members were involved in some kinda organized crime and how many of the antisocial personality traits they present with are actually coping mechanisms to be able to function in that world. And father, grandfather, uncle, older brother, and/or mentor pass it down generation after generation.
    Some get out by finding another way, following a passion and getting lucky, being seen as too soft, whatever, but most of these guy's whole lives were laid out before they were even born, they never really had a significant choice. Its easy to say otherwise from the outside lookin in but that's just what it is in a lotta cases. It really just makes the whole situation that much more sad and tragic.
    A lotta these characters aren't cold, calculated, emotionless husks of human beings and clearly have some very deep feelings even if they also can be cold, cruel, and selfish at times. But the way they (especially these 2) were written its more that the worst of em was learned behaviors to cope and they coulda been something else entirely in a different environment with different influences. Some things are nature, but the best evidence we have says most of it is nurture.

  • @CharlesMears-t1u
    @CharlesMears-t1u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chris did better with the women but Jesse was better looking.

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chris only did better with women because of who he worked for and for his money.

  • @deshaunreid7728
    @deshaunreid7728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Walt egged Jesse on to take more territory

    • @Fredrickthe2nd
      @Fredrickthe2nd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But he still chose to do it and believed it was true

  • @tobe1207
    @tobe1207 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved BB, but it just don't hold up the same. Sopranos,even when silly and over the top,still feels real.
    BB, it's hard to suspend disbelief because most the crime aspect of the show is obviously written by someone whose never been around that.
    It's like the show weeds, Nancy was begging for 1 oz of bud so she can sell it and be able to pay her bills, for her mansion in laurel canyon or Malibu or whatever tf. Selling weed to pay bills,sure...but one ounce in California, and you only bought/got Fronted 1oz so you're not getting wholesale price. Even if she grams it out, she's not making much.
    It was a fun show. But idk I got a pet peave, that shit urks me

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sopranos is far from realistic too, tbh.
      A real Mob Boss would never take part in killing or robberies himself, they have people for that.
      Also at least BrBa felt more real in terms of Police involvement, in Sopranos police felt absent.

  • @gabrielethier2046
    @gabrielethier2046 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Basically Christopher is if Jesse was a psychopath

  • @JimsRavioli
    @JimsRavioli 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just realized that they have the chemical synthesis for meth in the intro (C10H15N) ive watched breaking bad twice in its entirety. Smh 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @halflifemason
    @halflifemason 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CHRISSSY WHAYYYYYYYY

  • @anondalorian3719
    @anondalorian3719 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesse neva had the makings of a varsity gangster

  • @plaidchuck
    @plaidchuck 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pauls acting was pretty bad and kind of took me out of the character.
    Imperioli played his character far better but people are butthurt about his personal politics so they trash him and the character

  • @jxjack9697
    @jxjack9697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mistah Moltistanti

  • @yzur1914
    @yzur1914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah I dont agree with the whole Jesse's not a good guy blah blah blah, if anything Jesse was the most pure in the game from breaking bad which is shown and satisfied to the viewers by El camino.. Notice how Jesse's the only one that gets a somewhat good ending, I dont think any of us can truly be good guys same way Jesse was just a lost, drug addict kid that could be so much more but the drugs have eaten his life away whether it is by him using or making them, but unlike any other cold gangsters in the show we can tell there is human behind Jesse and that in reality he can be any of us young kids falling under the wrong path. Really love Jesses Arc and it may sound like Im being biased, he's done some fucked up things but so have anyone else in the drug world.

    • @yzur1914
      @yzur1914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also if anything Chris was more of a dickhead overall than Jesse I mean we never saw Jesse beat his girlfriend or wife and cause so much suffering like that while in the relationship alive. Jesse has both of them killed due to his involvement but it isnt directly him causing the deaths nor suffering of either or ya get me..

    • @thepsychofunboyartist
      @thepsychofunboyartist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should read what I said.

    • @yzur1914
      @yzur1914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thepsychofunboyartist Yeah I read actually your comment made me want to express my opinion on the matter.. Overall this isnt a bad video nor comparison by any means just thought I'd add my two cents on jesse.

    • @thepsychofunboyartist
      @thepsychofunboyartist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yzur1914 Oh haha thank you and everything you said were all good points.

    • @dmcfail987
      @dmcfail987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesse is not a good guy

  • @homie4327
    @homie4327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Bully Whispers, would you consider Jimmy Darmody to be a part of the Jesse-Christopher character archetype? I'd love a video on him in comparison with these two!

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He would be similar in that he’s also like a secondary main character and was mentored by the main character and was also a disappointment to his mentor and went against him

    • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
      @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So jimmy would be a good choice to add here good call on that

  • @1-800-Hitman
    @1-800-Hitman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris was on meth in season 1

  • @ZeeZeeFaa
    @ZeeZeeFaa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did....didnt

  • @sterrshow5016
    @sterrshow5016 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesse got Jane and cute goth girls are way more valuable than ditzy hot girls like Adriana

  • @SmokeyFuck
    @SmokeyFuck 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did Adriana call tony Chris’s cousin when he’s Chris’s uncle in the first episode of season 4 when they are at the dinner.

    • @nathennnatthehb5417
      @nathennnatthehb5417 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they’re technically cousins but bcus Tony is older he took on more of an uncle figure

  • @Governing368
    @Governing368 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meth addiction is wayyyy easier to deal with than heroin imo. Ain't no going without with heroin. It's always top priority. Easier on your body though. Chris would've done better tweekin than noddin.

    • @Donut_Sprinkle
      @Donut_Sprinkle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What kind of dumbass comment is this lmfao

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesse was once on Heroin though but was sent to rehab few episodes later.

  • @rufusblue8044
    @rufusblue8044 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good movie

  • @chimpsquadboss
    @chimpsquadboss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my shon

  • @victordomingoakabigfuentes9646
    @victordomingoakabigfuentes9646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris was just a jack ass…most of the things that happened to him were self inflicted…

  • @Donut_Sprinkle
    @Donut_Sprinkle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jesse is ABSOLUTELY a good guy. Also the bug in the beginning of the BB episode you referenced was actually pretty symbolic (Jessie's compassion/innocence) rather than "not meaning anything" lmao. This was lame.

    • @dmcfail987
      @dmcfail987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No he wasn't

    • @jordankeller4253
      @jordankeller4253 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He was, only if you believe in the 'deep down." If you believe that what's on the surface is what defines you, he wasn't. He's sympathetic, but that doesn't inherently mean he's a good person.

    • @PolishGod1234
      @PolishGod1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is not a good guy. But he's good when compared to other criminals in the show consisting of psychopaths, Cartel hitmen, Neo Nazis , druglords etc.

  • @melinuevaera
    @melinuevaera 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    jesse’s way better

    • @joshuafult84
      @joshuafult84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gotta disagree Jesse was cringe and annoying,

    • @melinuevaera
      @melinuevaera 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshuafult84 ok good for u. that’s why it’s called “an opinion”

    • @joshuafult84
      @joshuafult84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@melinuevaera Obviously no where in my comment did I insinuate it was a fact .

    • @melinuevaera
      @melinuevaera 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshuafult84 then why should i care about who U prefer.. i never asked

    • @joshuafult84
      @joshuafult84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@melinuevaera You responded dumb a$$ lmaoo

  • @ShellNSMBDS
    @ShellNSMBDS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's JESSE not JESSIE

  • @jevinholst1703
    @jevinholst1703 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t do this please…. Please…

  • @dreamsprayanimation
    @dreamsprayanimation 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesse wasn't a good guy? You said that multiple times and didn't really talk about how Chris was a woman beater, homophobe, killer of innocents, a bully and a sadist. In a lot of ways Chris was worse than Tony. I agree Jesse wasn't good but he wasn't evil, Chris was and don't know why you didn't talk more about him and all the horrible shit he did and how he is overall just a scumbag personalitywise.

    • @bullywhispers9544
      @bullywhispers9544  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nobody ever accuses Chris of being a good guy, so I didnt feel the need to mention it.

  • @thepsychofunboyartist
    @thepsychofunboyartist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesse is a good guy he just made some mistakes and the bettle thing actually matters alot.
    Edit:Jesse was forced into the life that would follow him yes he was a very small time criminal before everything,but still and there is a difference between legally guilty and morality guilty Jesse is legally guilty for a lot of things but breaking the law does not always define if you're a good or bad person aside from being a meth dealer and trying to sell to recovering addicts Jesse is morally innocent yes he shot Gale but look at the way it affected him during the first half of season 4 he never wanted to kill anyone but Walt made him and the way he is with kids is what truly shows his good side and how good of a heart he is and the fact that in season 5 Jesse was throwing all of his money way should be a clear indication of who he is Jesse is an anti hero that leads towards being more good then bad he constantly tries to do the right thing and get out of the business but it never works out for him.

  • @foxc8646
    @foxc8646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to Apply yourself

  • @tylerfletcher1982
    @tylerfletcher1982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can't blame Adrianna for her own demise that's genuinely missing the point of the entire show
    People make decisions and Christopher chose to join the mob and beat Adrianna, his own fiance
    And when the only chance they had of an actual normal life together outside of the mob was presented to him what did he do?
    He chose to have his girlfriend murdered

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She still chose to be with Christopher in the first place knowing what kind of person she is. She could have just broke up with him and never worked with the FBI- both protecting Christopher and herself. I understand she tried to change Chris but you can’t expect other people change for you.

    • @tylerfletcher1982
      @tylerfletcher1982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@petermj1098 @petermj1098 you also shouldn't abuse and murder your partner
      Remember after the first time Chris beat the shit outta her?
      He went over to her mother's house and manipulated her emotions by proposing to her.
      Or remember that time she got in a car accident and Christopher still beat the shit outta her and threw her out by her hair all over a rumor? But don't worry he did heroin and didn't even mention hitting her.
      Yeah that really stacks up in comparison to Christopher beating her and ultimately conspiring to have her murdered.
      And how did he set her up? Him and Tony lied about a suicide attempt in order to MANIPULATE her into leaving with Silvio.
      Their entire relationship was him manipulating her into believing he was a good person who actually cared about her.

    • @saulwalle
      @saulwalle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She chose to be with a man that she knew was mobbed up. She knew that he was a murderer and that all the gifts that she enjoyed were stolen or extorted from somebody. She helped cover up a murder, she witnessed Chris's acts of violence against others. She was not a victim. She was an accomplice. IDK how you can say that it's about decisions and not hold her accountable for hers

  • @Gigibaby88
    @Gigibaby88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris' really hot Las Vegas "girlfriend" is Carmen from the L Word and always will be. That is all 😉
    P.s. I watched the sequel to this video first and thought you made great points in each. Good stuff. 👍👍