Responsibly Flying a Drone While Hiking - HOW TO VIDEO
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I absolutely love your channel and have watched dozens of your videos. They are the best experiential Colorado hiking videos I’ve found. You asked for comments, and you might not like mine. With all due respect to you as a person, I can tell you that there’s nothing more disappointing than reaching the summit of a breathtaking, absolutely otherworldly silent summit, that you may have worked months to attain- only to see and hear a drone overhead! This has happened to me on 14ers, and now I feel what it means to be “crest-fallen “. It’s just a large despairing sadness.
Awesome! Thanks
Good overview of a complex and confusing topic. Take it from someone (who happens to be a hiker and fly fisherman) that served for about 18 months on an FAA advisory committee (6 years ago) working with other stakeholders to sort out drone operations in the public (and private!) airspace and that experience was like herding chickens. We never could reach consensus on issues like how drone operators should respect private property and personal privacy rights. You provided some good, practical and conscientious advice!
Appreciate the feedback and glad to hear it’s in line with your previous role 👍🏽
Great content. Drones are great but I didn't realize there was so much to deal with. Thanks!
Very informative for someone thinking about getting one.
Respect is something that should be forthcoming.
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Very pretty video ❤😊
The. this is great footage. 😎
As a content creator and a hiker, who likes a quiet hike with just the sounds of nature and who had a lot of negative experiences with drone users in nature, this is a topic that interests me a lot. I have two questions for you:
1. From a safety and social perspective, how do you feel about flying over (dense) forests? You never know if there's a person or animal under the treecover and a falling drone could cause harm to them. Also if flying low enough the sound of the drone can be a real nuisance for people hiking in the forest (ask me how I know...).
2. What about flying over bodies of water, like oceans or big lakes? If your drone falls in the water, it's basically gone, you lose your expensive gadget and pollute the water in the process.
I also think it's important to define what a "crowd" is, as you mentioned. For instance flying over a single person that is climbing a difficult via ferrata is an ass move and can put them in danger in multiple ways, not just because of the potential of a falling drone, but also by potentially causing loss in concentration (again, ask me how I know).
Yeah, I mean - we could probably discuss this for HOURS with so many layers here but I guess I will just say three things:
1. At the end of the day, flying on a hike involves a lot of common sense and respect for fellow hikers, regardless of what the laws are. If you don't have that, the examples that you mentioned come into play and represent all drone users in a negative light. Same can be said about one person representing any group in a negative way. Respect should absolutely be given to other hikers when you are flying or just hiking in general.
2. The what if scenarios are endless but its oversimplifying things to say "what if XYZ happens to the drone while flying?" You could make this exact same point about someone leaving trash, toilet paper, using a trail improperly, not putting out their fire, driving a vehicle where it shouldn't be ETC. etc. etc. Yes, if a drone crashes and is not able to be recovered, that is bad for nature. But to assume that every other non-drone user recreating on a trail is following LNT to the T is a false representation of our world.
3. You mentioned you like to hike quietly in nature and I 100% respect and understand that. However, should your ideal nature experience be what every other person needs to follow? I love to fly my drone (respectfully and legally) while hiking - does my experience in nature not matter because its in opposition to yours? There are plenty of things that happen to me on hikes that I strongly dislike and I can't do anything about because everyone has the right to experience nature in the way that they would like so long as it follows basic respect for others out on the trail.
We are strangers and you know literally nothing about me, but I can assure you that whenever I am flying my drone, I try to put literally every other person's perspective and experience into account before I pop it into the sky and you know what, for some, that is still not good enough. However, at the end of the day, I really enjoy the perspective it can give, information it provides on a hike and just flying the thing in general. As long as I know I am doing the best I can to respect nature and others out in it, I am okay with the choices that I make when flying.
@@TheVirtualSherpa Thanks for the reply. I hope my comment didn't come off as criticizing or anti-drone, as you can imagine I like my hiking and filming gadgets and I'm just trying to gather information on the subject.
1. I'm sure you fly respectfully, the fact that you made this video is a good proof for that. I found your channel via your Dolomites videos where I also noted that you paid attention to where you flew.
2. I agree, unfortunately a lot of people are not following LNT when out in nature. But we definitely should try to do so (I believe that especially as content creators our responsability is bigger). The thing with the examples you gave is, that I CAN control if I leave trash or not, I CAN control if I put out a fire properly, I CAN control if I drive where I'm supposed to or not, but I CAN'T really control if my drone malfunctions or not. That's why I think one should minimize (ideally eliminate) the possibility of the situations when a malfunction during flying can cause someone getting hit or the drone crashing somewhere where it's impossible to recover from. And that's why I was asking about the specific scenario of flying above water, in case I'm missing something.
3. The problem with this is that everyone's definition of what basic respect is differs. One person could say that it's respectful and ok to blast loud music in the middle of the forest ("you are just too sensitive, that's how I relax"), another person could say it's ok to drive with ATVs in natural reserves ("we are still better than poachers or illegal loggers" - real examples of responses I've heard in quotes). That's why I think we need a more general definition of what is ok and what is not ok to do, perhaps depending on the specific area (how fragile the flora and fauna is, how popular it is among hikers etc.).
The perspective drone footage gives is definitely spectacular and we need more drone users like you who are taking into consideration the experience of others and trying to educate tactfully.
Haha I was coming down from backpacking on the venable trail in the sangre de cristo wilderness and some dude around the waterfall had a drone which is not very deep in the wilderness but it was just the lack of common courtesy blatantly unaware he was doing anything wrong 😂 Colorado Springs has a lot of restricted airspace that can get in the way of droning on hikes
Yeah, its a tough spot - I am very pro drones when used responsibly but I know a lot of people hate them regardless. The area I have no patience for is ignorant people who don't know the rules for where they are trying to fly. Wilderness areas are a good example though too because sometimes the sign you see 0n the trail is not actually in the wilderness boundary. But like I said in the vid - I always tend to play it conservative.
Good video; begs the question though why you are considering changing your drone? I assume weight that meets the 12k foot+ requirement?
Great question - looking to improve video quality but more specifically picture quality. Most new drones have upgraded tech in regards to object avoidance and the image sensor in the camera. Will be keeping the Mavic Air - but it would be nice to run with a drone in my vest without having SO much weight bounce around back there as well.
@@TheVirtualSherpa it's pretty crazy technology. I love how - when you hold it away from you it looks like it is 30' from you and you can't see the pole itself. Also interesting when you are walking say a ridge line and it seems to be following your path from a distance. Was in Denver last week but never went up into the mountains though was in RMNP in September. Beautiful country for sure.
How do you work with the 400 foot cap in the mountains? I wanted to get a juicy sunrise picture but 400 feet from the pass is not the top of the ridge line? If that makes sense.
Would I have to push it up to the ridge and only fly it there? Imo far away out of site to do from the pass.
The law reads 400ft off the ground regardless of where you take it off so if you were on the saddle/pass and wanted to get to say the top of a nearby mountain, you'd have to fly backwards to get perspective or hike up enough so that you can be over the summit but still under 400ft. Hope that makes sense.
@@TheVirtualSherpa yea definitely. I’m just so fearful of losing it up on a mountain 😅 it’s a Mavic 3 so it has the lights and pinging and gps but oof scary stuff
100% feel ya - always scary when you lose connection and know that if it were to fall, its game over.
These are my rules for flying drone in nature:
1) Do not fly when other people are around.
2) Do not fly when animals are around.
3) Do not fly where drone cannot be retrieved if it falls.
4) Do not fly for more than 3 minutes at a time. (One shot)
5) Do not fly close to trees or in dense forest.
6) Do no fly when there is no GPS signal.
This means that the opportunity to fly the drone is rare but that is the only way.
Because as it stands now, the drone is only legal when no one complains about it.
The moment some one complains, it become illegal despite all safety efforts.
Watch the video my friend. I quite literally talk about all of this and emphasis legality vs common sense things that users should be doing. 🤘