Just wanted to drop a note of appreciation for the effort you put into sharing good info with us. The fact that you have IRL time in helos means that your opinions carry great weight, and the manner in which you present them is highly reasonable and professional. As a low-time IRL fixed wing pilot, I don't have any stick time in helos, but it's clear you're sharing all "the little things" with us, and it shows. I had more or less made up my mind to focus on the two Bell 206s for MSFS I already have, but thanks to your insightful commentary here, I'm gonna pull the trigger on the Huey. I've heard consistently good reviews about Taog's work and it seems they've gone above and beyond with this one. Gotta support teams like that!
@@CCitis it would help… Another user suggested FSRealistic, I may have to look into it. I do know that the dev is working on it for future updates though.
You need to have a word with them about the vibes, like you say the Lama has it and it is a huge amount of the immersion! Great review, bought it when it came out, loving it...👍
Wonderful review, thank you for all the little insights. Like some other folks here, I could do without the music. But I really appreciate the work you put into your videos :)
I love that the hose dangeling seems to have physics.. it is getting a bit old, that the old DCS slingloading is one of the few more detailed renditions.
That was a fantastic reply and I feel really awful now! 🤭You took our comments about the music level in the spirit they were intended - purely to help you make better content - thanks for understanding. You know we weren't being spiteful 👍. It is easy to forget just how hard all the behind the scenes technical stuff actually is and I for one, never take it for granted. I will always stick by you for sure as I appreciate your reviews and enlightened opinions. One of your views is worth a hundred from people who have never flown a real helicopter.
No worries! Growth and passion for helicopters is what this community is all about! …oh, and maybe the occasional fixed wing bit of content too if I’m feeling adventurous. I like airplanes too. I have some time in Cessna 152s & 172s also, but they’re just nowhere near as fun as helicopters!
Could not have said it better, Belatu’s soft voice and commentary against the background of the rotor chop is music to my ears. Maybe a poll on whether viewers prefer background music or not, I prefer it without.
@@tomas5577 thanks! I may switch it up a bit and just put music in the intros and outros in videos I’m speaking, and maybe use full video tracks when I’m not. A lot of it just depends on the mood I’m in when editing…
Cant wait to try it out, Ive flown a Bell jet ranger a couple of times and the cyclic is so sensitive you can use telepathy to fly the heli yet there is latency in the control so like you said you have to be a step ahead of you start chasing your reactional inputs. Inversely, the bell rudder pedals where as heavy as a tractors
Great review. Btw, I use FSRealistic for vibrations and such. Not a perfect solution, but until something better comes along, it makes helo flying much more satisfying.
Thanks for the feedback! Do you have a hard time understanding me from 2:35-4:04? th-cam.com/video/ejBtLbLYGns/w-d-xo.html I find it's the helicopter sound, not the music that makes speech harder to understand...Anyway, I'm always working on improving the audio. You can always turn on the Closed Caption.
I am big fan of Belatu's helicopter reviews and have a lot of respect for his views but I had to abandon this one part way in due to the music. I am however old fashioned and can never see the point of music in a YT video unless it is adding to the entertainment value in some way so I may be in the minority. Certainly an entire video music track, especially for something that is a specialist subject, would have very little benefit to most viewers. I did manage to work out that this is an excellent product though, worth a look.
@@tasercs I appreciate the feedback! This is a hobby for me and I’m learning video and sound editing for enjoyment :) and I’m not that good at audio editing yet. I’m learning how to integrate background music, but struggle with the levels and cuts. Right now, I’m not that good at fading tracks in & out to go along with the video content. I’ve gotten better, but have miles to go…Thanks for sticking with me while I continue to work it out :)
Hi, thanks for the good review. But I don't like to backgound music together with your voice and the helicopter's perfect typical sound. I struggle a bit with the Bell 205 (Huey) tendency to roll a little to the right and stronger spinning to the right. I didn't find the right trim settings until now.
Thanks for the feedback! Audio is something I am continuing to work on for all of my videos. Keep at it! Learning how to offset the torque during different phases of flight is what makes helicopters so much fun!
Great video, subbed. I have been enjoying the bell stock heli the last few weeks, and probably enjoy them more than any other aircraft. I am running a 7800x3d and 4090 with quest 3. My only issue has been the stutters. And although they have improved nught and day over the months, i belive due to drivers and tlod more than anything else. All i am hoping for in 2024 is a completely stutter free experience. If they could achieve this, i would be in heli heaven. The graphics are stunning at times in 2020, so hearing that 2024 will be much improved is a very exciting idea. Now of course the 9000x3d and 5090 are coming out, so the prospects for amazing msfs experience is jaw dripping at this point. Then combine a pimax light, and this year really could be a total gamechanger.
Wow! That’s a great setup! I spec’d my dad an i9 13900k with a 4090 and he can turn his settings up pretty high with his reverb G2. I run an i9 12900k with a 3080ti. It runs my Varjo Aero really well, but I have to turn down my LOD a bit to be stutter free. I’m hoping to upgrade my GPU and maybe pickup a Pimax Crystal light, but I’m happy with my setup for now. When I was training for my private I would run XP10 on an i5 chip with a 1070 on a Rift. It got the job done, but we’ve come a long way in the last few years…
@@Belatu42 Thabks for the interesting reply. Autofps has been a gamechanger for me. In the Bell I can set a 135Tlod below 300ft and that then rises to a maximum 275Tlod above 3000ft. It even works with a frame cap, as the new version uses a dynamic lod based on altitude instead of an fps figure. I get a 95% stutter free experience, but it's the 5% flutter farts that breaks immersion. The quest 3 is running at 3808 res via oculus supersampling. Its really like real life at times. But even with this set up I have to lock at 36fps with motion repro making it 72hz. I go for graphics mainly, but at 72hz it's buttery. I really cannot afford the 9000x3d and 5090, I broke the bank with the set up I currently run, but I cannot imagine how amazing vr would be with this set up, plus 2024 optimisation plus a high end vr unit. Insane.
Thank you very much for the review. I couldn't follow what you said about vibration because it seems to be vibrating a lot based on what I am seeing in the panel ? Or are you in VR moving your head ? 3 months ago you said the R22 was the most realistic - has the Huey release changed your mind over which one you would buy now out of the two ?
Thanks for the feedback! You are correct, I’m in VR so the appearance of vibration in the video is my head movement. I was talking to the other simmer while flying formation… That’s a tough question about the R22. I’m pretty sure I mentioned in the video that both the Huey and R22 are the most realistic. I don’t think I could choose between the two… I would pick the R22 because I fly it IRL, but then I would pick the Huey because it’s so iconic and I would die to fly one. As far as realism in the sim, you can’t go wrong with either.
So…that’s an interesting question in the sim. In the real thing, yes, you would reset trim for approach so you aren’t fighting it. In the sim, it depends on your hardware. I have a ‘springless’ cyclic stick that stays where I leave it so I don’t use trim in the sim. If it’s sim ‘force’ trim, I would reset. If it’s beep trim, just adjust so you’re not fighting the spring.
@@Belatu42 I've a Velocity 1 Flight Stick which has a very stiff spring. However the anti torque pedals have no spring fitted which I find suits me. I am currently leaving trim set and managing the approach accordingly l. I'll invest in Puma X Flight system later in the year. Thanks very much for your time, its very much appreciated 👍
Interesting that you say VRS is hard to get into. In the DCS Huey its SUPER easy to get into. Do you have any experience with the DCS model and what do you think is realistic?
@@cptvanier I do have DCS and I love their Huey, but I do feel that VRS is too easily encountered in DCS. I’ve never flown a real Huey though, only Robinsons. When I practiced in R22s and R44s it was not easy to get into. We would set up a tail wind at altitude to practice and you really had to be descending quickly. It’s talked about a lot IRL because it’s usually encountered on approach, close to the ground where recovery is unlikely. So it’s important to pay close attention to your speed and descent rate on approach.
I’m a private helicopter in real life. I have flown all the different Robinson types, but I haven’t flown a real Huey. I do find the Huey realistic. Lots of subtle things are happening with the FM during different maneuvers that feel like a real helicopter in VR. It is one of the best helis to practice autorotations with in MSFS
No worries! I thought I was going crazy for a minute because I could swear I said where I was flying. I try to make it a point to say where I’m at and include a scenery link because it drives me crazy when I see a cool scenery in other videos and the creator doesn’t say where…
@@Belatu42 Absolutely! :) I'm super on the fence about buying this bird. Not because I'm concerned about its quality, at all! Just that FS2024 is coming soon, and although all addons will eventually be updated to be compatible, that is often a lengthy and laborious process for the devs. I'm kind of on a hiatus of adding any ships or scenery to FS2020, which is sad, because I've been wanting a Huey bad. Your review on the Cowan MD500 got me to buy that amazing bird, so I'm no stranger to your views.
Off the top of my head, I think it is toggle taxi lights. You should have it set for on press, and on release. It's explained in the extended checklist documentation that came with the download.
Hmmm. I thought the pedals felt pretty good. What hardware are you using? Do you have input curves setup? Or are they linear? I have a 1:1 Pro-Flight Trainer Puma control set, linear no curves and I’m happy with how they feel.
@@Belatu42 Your pedals look neat. I'm using Thrustmaster TFRP pedals. I have adjusted the curves but will try full linear next time I'm on & see how that goes.
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Just wanted to drop a note of appreciation for the effort you put into sharing good info with us. The fact that you have IRL time in helos means that your opinions carry great weight, and the manner in which you present them is highly reasonable and professional.
As a low-time IRL fixed wing pilot, I don't have any stick time in helos, but it's clear you're sharing all "the little things" with us, and it shows.
I had more or less made up my mind to focus on the two Bell 206s for MSFS I already have, but thanks to your insightful commentary here, I'm gonna pull the trigger on the Huey. I've heard consistently good reviews about Taog's work and it seems they've gone above and beyond with this one. Gotta support teams like that!
Thank you for the kind words! The Huey is fantastic and Taog’s team keeps working to improve it!
I would also kill for some vibration effects to bring the aircraft alive. Love this addon!
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, some vibrations would really bring it to life!
Kind of a deal breaker to be honest lol... gotta be there!
@@CCitis it would help…
Another user suggested FSRealistic, I may have to look into it. I do know that the dev is working on it for future updates though.
You need to have a word with them about the vibes, like you say the Lama has it and it is a huge amount of the immersion! Great review, bought it when it came out, loving it...👍
It has been brought up ;)
I’m glad you’re enjoying it!
Wonderful review, thank you for all the little insights. Like some other folks here, I could do without the music. But I really appreciate the work you put into your videos :)
Thanks! I enjoy making the videos! I’m thinking for future review videos, at least, I will keep the music to intros and outros :)
I love that the hose dangeling seems to have physics.. it is getting a bit old, that the old DCS slingloading is one of the few more detailed renditions.
You can sling load in Xplane! It's also coming to MSFS2024...not soon enough though.
That was a fantastic reply and I feel really awful now! 🤭You took our comments about the music level in the spirit they were intended - purely to help you make better content - thanks for understanding. You know we weren't being spiteful 👍.
It is easy to forget just how hard all the behind the scenes technical stuff actually is and I for one, never take it for granted.
I will always stick by you for sure as I appreciate your reviews and enlightened opinions. One of your views is worth a hundred from people who have never flown a real helicopter.
No worries! Growth and passion for helicopters is what this community is all about!
…oh, and maybe the occasional fixed wing bit of content too if I’m feeling adventurous. I like airplanes too. I have some time in Cessna 152s & 172s also, but they’re just nowhere near as fun as helicopters!
Could not have said it better, Belatu’s soft voice and commentary against the background of the rotor chop is music to my ears.
Maybe a poll on whether viewers prefer background music or not, I prefer it without.
@@tomas5577 thanks! I may switch it up a bit and just put music in the intros and outros in videos I’m speaking, and maybe use full video tracks when I’m not. A lot of it just depends on the mood I’m in when editing…
Cant wait to try it out, Ive flown a Bell jet ranger a couple of times and the cyclic is so sensitive you can use telepathy to fly the heli yet there is latency in the control so like you said you have to be a step ahead of you start chasing your reactional inputs. Inversely, the bell rudder pedals where as heavy as a tractors
@@andrewjamez it’s really good! Cowansim has a 206B3 and L3 that are also very good!
Great review. Btw, I use FSRealistic for vibrations and such. Not a perfect solution, but until something better comes along, it makes helo flying much more satisfying.
@@xX_Gravity_Xx Thanks for the feedback! I looked into FSRealistic awhile back but never pulled the trigger. I should check it out again.
Awesome review!
The music is a bit too loud, and it is hard for me to understand you at some points. Thank you for the review! 🍻
Thanks for the feedback! Do you have a hard time understanding me from 2:35-4:04?
th-cam.com/video/ejBtLbLYGns/w-d-xo.html
I find it's the helicopter sound, not the music that makes speech harder to understand...Anyway, I'm always working on improving the audio. You can always turn on the Closed Caption.
I am big fan of Belatu's helicopter reviews and have a lot of respect for his views but I had to abandon this one part way in due to the music. I am however old fashioned and can never see the point of music in a YT video unless it is adding to the entertainment value in some way so I may be in the minority. Certainly an entire video music track, especially for something that is a specialist subject, would have very little benefit to most viewers.
I did manage to work out that this is an excellent product though, worth a look.
@@tasercs I appreciate the feedback! This is a hobby for me and I’m learning video and sound editing for enjoyment :) and I’m not that good at audio editing yet. I’m learning how to integrate background music, but struggle with the levels and cuts. Right now, I’m not that good at fading tracks in & out to go along with the video content. I’ve gotten better, but have miles to go…Thanks for sticking with me while I continue to work it out :)
Hi, thanks for the good review. But I don't like to backgound music together with your voice and the helicopter's perfect typical sound.
I struggle a bit with the Bell 205 (Huey) tendency to roll a little to the right and stronger spinning to the right.
I didn't find the right trim settings until now.
Thanks for the feedback! Audio is something I am continuing to work on for all of my videos. Keep at it! Learning how to offset the torque during different phases of flight is what makes helicopters so much fun!
Great video, subbed.
I have been enjoying the bell stock heli the last few weeks, and probably enjoy them more than any other aircraft.
I am running a 7800x3d and 4090 with quest 3. My only issue has been the stutters. And although they have improved nught and day over the months, i belive due to drivers and tlod more than anything else. All i am hoping for in 2024 is a completely stutter free experience. If they could achieve this, i would be in heli heaven.
The graphics are stunning at times in 2020, so hearing that 2024 will be much improved is a very exciting idea.
Now of course the 9000x3d and 5090 are coming out, so the prospects for amazing msfs experience is jaw dripping at this point. Then combine a pimax light, and this year really could be a total gamechanger.
Wow! That’s a great setup! I spec’d my dad an i9 13900k with a 4090 and he can turn his settings up pretty high with his reverb G2. I run an i9 12900k with a 3080ti. It runs my Varjo Aero really well, but I have to turn down my LOD a bit to be stutter free. I’m hoping to upgrade my GPU and maybe pickup a Pimax Crystal light, but I’m happy with my setup for now. When I was training for my private I would run XP10 on an i5 chip with a 1070 on a Rift. It got the job done, but we’ve come a long way in the last few years…
@@Belatu42 Thabks for the interesting reply. Autofps has been a gamechanger for me. In the Bell I can set a 135Tlod below 300ft and that then rises to a maximum 275Tlod above 3000ft. It even works with a frame cap, as the new version uses a dynamic lod based on altitude instead of an fps figure.
I get a 95% stutter free experience, but it's the 5% flutter farts that breaks immersion.
The quest 3 is running at 3808 res via oculus supersampling. Its really like real life at times. But even with this set up I have to lock at 36fps with motion repro making it 72hz. I go for graphics mainly, but at 72hz it's buttery.
I really cannot afford the 9000x3d and 5090, I broke the bank with the set up I currently run, but I cannot imagine how amazing vr would be with this set up, plus 2024 optimisation plus a high end vr unit. Insane.
@@andyakarudolfhessiansack7936 Right?!? Who needs a real airplane ;)
Thank you very much for the review. I couldn't follow what you said about vibration because it seems to be vibrating a lot based on what I am seeing in the panel ? Or are you in VR moving your head ? 3 months ago you said the R22 was the most realistic - has the Huey release changed your mind over which one you would buy now out of the two ?
Thanks for the feedback! You are correct, I’m in VR so the appearance of vibration in the video is my head movement. I was talking to the other simmer while flying formation…
That’s a tough question about the R22. I’m pretty sure I mentioned in the video that both the Huey and R22 are the most realistic. I don’t think I could choose between the two…
I would pick the R22 because I fly it IRL, but then I would pick the Huey because it’s so iconic and I would die to fly one. As far as realism in the sim, you can’t go wrong with either.
@@Belatu42 Cheers for the info !
Thanks very much for a great video and information. With helicopters are you supposed to reset rotor trim for the approach into hover and land?
So…that’s an interesting question in the sim. In the real thing, yes, you would reset trim for approach so you aren’t fighting it. In the sim, it depends on your hardware. I have a ‘springless’ cyclic stick that stays where I leave it so I don’t use trim in the sim. If it’s sim ‘force’ trim, I would reset. If it’s beep trim, just adjust so you’re not fighting the spring.
@@Belatu42 I've a Velocity 1 Flight Stick which has a very stiff spring. However the anti torque pedals have no spring fitted which I find suits me. I am currently leaving trim set and managing the approach accordingly l. I'll invest in Puma X Flight system later in the year. Thanks very much for your time, its very much appreciated 👍
Interesting that you say VRS is hard to get into. In the DCS Huey its SUPER easy to get into. Do you have any experience with the DCS model and what do you think is realistic?
@@cptvanier I do have DCS and I love their Huey, but I do feel that VRS is too easily encountered in DCS. I’ve never flown a real Huey though, only Robinsons. When I practiced in R22s and R44s it was not easy to get into. We would set up a tail wind at altitude to practice and you really had to be descending quickly. It’s talked about a lot IRL because it’s usually encountered on approach, close to the ground where recovery is unlikely. So it’s important to pay close attention to your speed and descent rate on approach.
🚨🚨🚨 Are you a real helicopter pilot? What helicopter? Do you find the Huey realistic on Flight simulator 2020? If so, why?🚨🚨🚨
I’m a private helicopter in real life. I have flown all the different Robinson types, but I haven’t flown a real Huey. I do find the Huey realistic. Lots of subtle things are happening with the FM during different maneuvers that feel like a real helicopter in VR. It is one of the best helis to practice autorotations with in MSFS
@@Belatu42
Just,superb 👍
Thanks for the feedback! It’s such a fun heli to fly in the sim!
@@Belatu42 you explained it's characteristics well, thankyou 👌
Great review. Where are you flying after the takeoff at 10 minute mark?
Did you watch the whole video? The airport scenery link is in the description...
th-cam.com/video/ejBtLbLYGns/w-d-xo.html
@@Belatu42 No, I got to 13 minutes and had to go earlier, and just now began viewing the rest. Where you literally say it's Ramona LOL
No worries! I thought I was going crazy for a minute because I could swear I said where I was flying. I try to make it a point to say where I’m at and include a scenery link because it drives me crazy when I see a cool scenery in other videos and the creator doesn’t say where…
@@Belatu42 Absolutely! :) I'm super on the fence about buying this bird. Not because I'm concerned about its quality, at all! Just that FS2024 is coming soon, and although all addons will eventually be updated to be compatible, that is often a lengthy and laborious process for the devs. I'm kind of on a hiatus of adding any ships or scenery to FS2020, which is sad, because I've been wanting a Huey bad. Your review on the Cowan MD500 got me to buy that amazing bird, so I'm no stranger to your views.
In the expo, it seems like they're trying to make the modding transition easy. @@PilatusTurbo
with which key do you release the bambi bucket water?
Off the top of my head, I think it is toggle taxi lights. You should have it set for on press, and on release. It's explained in the extended checklist documentation that came with the download.
The pedals seem to give not enough, not enough, not enough then everything. No VR zoom.
Hmmm. I thought the pedals felt pretty good. What hardware are you using? Do you have input curves setup? Or are they linear? I have a 1:1 Pro-Flight Trainer Puma control set, linear no curves and I’m happy with how they feel.
@@Belatu42 Your pedals look neat. I'm using Thrustmaster TFRP pedals. I have adjusted the curves but will try full linear next time I'm on & see how that goes.
We NEED this released for Xbox!
@@Blueesteel_ It’s coming! It’s worth the wait!
Is it on Xbox?
It’s coming to Xbox soon. No date yet, but the dev has confirmed it is coming.