Dev YouTubers Are Lying To Us | Theo Reacts

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  • When I saw Sid's video, I knew I had to dive deep on it. We're deep enough in our bubble that it's easy to forget how awful most of "programming TH-cam" actually is.
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  • @SidTheITGuy
    @SidTheITGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +486

    Hey Theo, Awesome video !!
    Btw, I belly laughed when you said - I love India too 😂. Of course India loves you as well my dude.
    Cheers!

    • @srivarshan7925
      @srivarshan7925 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      😂Yes Second approval from India.

    • @norwegiansmores811
      @norwegiansmores811 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      after scrolling through random code stuff i did realize i started to actually understand code better
      i by no means have the skill to assemble my own code but i am starting to understand and be able to tell what this and that section of code does if only vaguely at times..

    • @norwegiansmores811
      @norwegiansmores811 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      mind you all of this is by me passively looking at this type of content for no reason. i'm not even in this market.

    • @misalambasta
      @misalambasta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy to see Sid get the right recognition. In many of his videos, he said the hard truth.

    • @SsaliJonathan
      @SsaliJonathan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sid, You did a great Job if a guy like Theo shouts you out.

  • @loganyt8818
    @loganyt8818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +298

    bro is literally kicking ass of big youtbers while sitting in a balcony.. chad stuff

  • @mikevaleriano9557
    @mikevaleriano9557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1116

    don't do my boy Fireship like that, like 80% of his videos are straight up jokes

    • @LaughingRam
      @LaughingRam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +162

      And his quick tutorials work. It's a great channel for getting exposures.

    • @Dipj01
      @Dipj01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      true, I feel like some people aren't getting his jokes and taking everything way too literally. This is why I feel Fireship has reduced his jokes in his newer videos. They feel less sarcastic now

    • @neociber24
      @neociber24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      When you are big is hard to manage how your content may affect others.
      For me is just jokes, but not sure others

    • @neoish
      @neoish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Fireship is awesome. Also it’s just jokes, but his sold content is also good content

    • @joshman1019
      @joshman1019 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@Dipj01 After his mom died he changed a little, but Fireship definitely makes valuable content. I do think that her death changed the tone of his content though.

  • @chrism9017
    @chrism9017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +270

    I find it curious, Sid gets Prime’s sarcasm but not Fireship’s.

    • @macle5007
      @macle5007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      yea honestly i get fireship's sarcasm, i watched prime, i was really confused, i got a hint of what was sarcasm and not, but i could very easily see myself getting things mixed up and end up with wrong info, so i just stopped watching him for now, until i get more knowledgeable to correctly discern what he's saying

    • @wonderfuladeyemo6806
      @wonderfuladeyemo6806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@macle5007 Yeah Prime's videos initially went over my head, but now that is history

    • @kuunibyou7642
      @kuunibyou7642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I find it hilarious bcs Prime also often reacts to some of Fireship's content lol

    • @gandalfthegrey2777
      @gandalfthegrey2777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I think that's because Fireship talks way too much about AI and usually has no opinion, just jokes and statements so most newbies watching him take him seriously especially his ai videos, I know plenty of students who think ai will replace software devs by watching fireship

    • @chrism9017
      @chrism9017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@gandalfthegrey2777 If lots of students actively watch Fireship, I have to wonder what draws them to his videos?
      Also, I consider all his videos to be opinion, in comedic form. I guess I have the experience of decades to guide me there.

  • @DelkorYT
    @DelkorYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +424

    Fireship is very clearly sarcastic. Sid better leave my boy alone!

    • @TheHadrian54
      @TheHadrian54 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      For every person that gets the joke, how many will just see the thumbnail and think it's the truth?

    • @JettMoress
      @JettMoress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      ​@@TheHadrian54filtered by a skill issue

    • @macle5007
      @macle5007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JettMoress i love this comment, makes sure only skilled people pass the test making comments higher level.

    • @FantasticOtto
      @FantasticOtto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@JettMoress Exactly. His sarcasm skills are too low to synch with enough people.

    • @nullbeyondo
      @nullbeyondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@FantasticOtto That's not how sarcasm works.

  • @capybara-expert
    @capybara-expert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +238

    26:40 Theo if you believe they were good people who got blurred thats not the case, they filed a case on him for defamation.

    • @yaaaayeet745
      @yaaaayeet745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      apna college??

    • @depayanmondal
      @depayanmondal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@yaaaayeet745 probably, they are serial offenders

    • @harshmpatil
      @harshmpatil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@depayanmondal express maintainers will agree

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

      Oh boy even better 🙃🙃🙃

    • @oemeraran8183
      @oemeraran8183 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      source?

  • @dzenda
    @dzenda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +193

    I think that the 13-17 range is bigger.
    Just people under 18 lie a lot about there age.

    • @aDaily1222
      @aDaily1222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      13-17 year olds honestly wouldnt like this channel. he doesnt teach you "how to program".
      he talks about industry stuff, which kids dont typically enjoy.

    • @papelito1020
      @papelito1020 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@aDaily1222 i am between 13-17 years old, and I personally love industry stuff. I personally think that the range between 13-17 is much bigger, they just lie about their age

    • @luaneo
      @luaneo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@aDaily1222 that's my favourite channel and I'm 17, there're many people like that :)

    • @aDaily1222
      @aDaily1222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@luaneo just because you are like that, doesnt mean theres "many" people like that. there are some, sure.
      but he deff attracts a more mature audience

    • @macle5007
      @macle5007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aDaily1222 i mean thats why the number in his video is less then 1%.
      I just barely turned 18, i love his videos, literally single best thing that happened in my life. He literally nailed my feelings in the video, today i was feeling really down, i have no around me to talk to me about programming, all of them are either behind or just stupid. I am from india, here everyone just follows the crows blinldy, everyone is in the trap, most of the youtubers you saw targetted were indians, so i feel extra burndened with all this knowledge, so i just thought maybe its just me who is in the wrong, and he read my mind and uploaded this video. 21:34 best part

  • @sven-o
    @sven-o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Hey Theo, just gotta leave this here. I am a junior dev with 3 years of experience. Basically went through a 3 year apprenticeship in Germany and am now considered a "full" software dev by having succeeded my final exam. Your content helped me through this journey a ton. Even though I hate how modern webdev is all about pushing responsibilities to 3rd party providers (auth as an example) or libraries (ui as an example), I still learn a ton from your videos. I extremely appreciate your transparency. I can relate to the junior dev being overwhelmed and feared by tech TH-camrs and you and Prime are a safety anchor for us just starting out. You should get way more respect in the dev community, even if I don't agree with some takes. It's a blessing to have you guys on here and I am very grateful.

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      10/10 reply

  • @zaneferns9576
    @zaneferns9576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    We need more people spreading the truth like Sid, as an Indian it brings me pain to see my colleagues fall victim to Indian TH-camrs who spread nothing but lies in the name of selling DSA courses.

    • @mohitkumar-jv2bx
      @mohitkumar-jv2bx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Being an indian dev myself. I totally agree with this comment. Sid is a rare youtuber in indian dev TH-camrs

    • @blazer511
      @blazer511 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ask them what happens to the number of available software engineering jobs if everyone and their didi decides to study data structures and algorithms

  • @justinallen4903
    @justinallen4903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I find my best way of learning is jumping in over my head and watching and reading a bunch of stuff that doesn't yet fully make sense. Then, over time, as I progress, I know what to look for and what to learn, and often, concepts I saw months ago will suddenly gel in my head and make sense.

    • @mich_thedev
      @mich_thedev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exact same way I learn.
      Learn by finding out what you need to learn

  • @Unbreathable
    @Unbreathable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    I'm 18 and I have the exact experience as described in 21:58. I'm so sad that I can't talk to people that are as much into programming as myself. I started my whole journey when I was 11 making Minecraft plugins for Spigot and Bukkit. Of course I met people on the internet that could relate to me (which is why I'm on VRChat so much these days..), but my real life friends are all interested in other things. I hope that this will change when I go into university in a few months. But my hopes aren't high..

    • @oarabilekoore
      @oarabilekoore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      same, I hope I can find ppl in uni with the same interests as me

    • @Rohinthas
      @Rohinthas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Good news, in my experience studying and working at 4 different universities in different countries, there is usually a 5-15% chunk of students in a Bachelors program that is really motivated and loves the subject. Finding them is easy, they are the ones asking the interesting questions and going the extra mile on homework. Now you just gotta figure out how to talk to them, but I highly recommend it, coding can be a great social experience, sharing a passion is just nice in general!

    • @ethanogle698
      @ethanogle698 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had the same hope going into my bachelors, but unfortunately haven't met anyone as into this stuff. Even working as a software dev, I haven't found anyone who doesn't view it as a "just a job".

    • @macle5007
      @macle5007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i am literally 18 too, only differernce is i am in university, i have found people with similar interests but sadly they are not advanced enough, or also falling in the same traps mentioned in the videos.

    • @PixelThorn
      @PixelThorn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can say chances are higher, but it's no guarantee

  • @fdov4
    @fdov4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    43:28 Throwing shade at Fireship, nah. Don’t do that

    • @HUEHUEUHEPony
      @HUEHUEUHEPony 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cancel theo

    • @douglascounts4634
      @douglascounts4634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      His paid courses are trash as they are just more entertainment.

    • @emerson-sheaapril8555
      @emerson-sheaapril8555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@douglascounts4634dude what's your problem? You have posted this at least 5 times.

    • @douglascounts4634
      @douglascounts4634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@emerson-sheaapril8555 "what's your problem?"

    • @fdov4
      @fdov4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@douglascounts4634 Jeez, go to therapy, look for help and close you YT account

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The clue is in their job title. They're INFLUENCERS.

  • @Trekiros
    @Trekiros 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    If you've got a lot of international viewers, that might skew the metric for your viewers' average income. If you have a $100k gig in the US, the exact same position in France would be about €50k - and it isn't like France is a third world country, it's just taxes/services are structured differently. Someone making €50k a year in France is living just as comfortably as someone making $100k in the US, even if the numbers look wildly different.

    • @Ignisami
      @Ignisami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      And it also matters where in the US you are when you're earning 100k. It goes significantly less far in a place like LA (especially downtown) or SF than basically anywhere in Kansas or Missouri.

    • @hunterxvov4ik
      @hunterxvov4ik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      of course it is not truth bcs more money means you can have more items on the global market
      technics, clothes, cars and non-local items prices are almost similar in different countries so it is huge gap between 60k$ and 100k$

    • @maxnibler6090
      @maxnibler6090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​​@@hunterxvov4ik those things make up a very small portion of most people's living expenses. If housing, health, food and bills are significantly cheaper then you can have plenty to spend on things like that even if your total income is much lower. Obviously this is not a given in all cases where someone in a different country has lower income. I'm just pointing out a reason why what you and op said can be true simultaneously
      Edit fixed typo

    • @Snuffsis
      @Snuffsis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hunterxvov4ik If you look at differences in disposable income (income left after taxes) and discretionary income (income left after taxes and necessities like insurance, rent, utility etc) between US and EU (Western part). You would see that the numbers aren't that much more different. There are outliers of course, like people working at FAANG and similar companies. But they are outliers in the big picture, as there are many many more software engineering jobs for other less well-known companies and even companies that slip your mind or that you wouldn't think of as having SWE's.

    • @drmonkeys852
      @drmonkeys852 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yup I live in middle of Canada. I make 60k as a student dev, after I'm done my degree it'll go up to 70k, and if I can get promoted out of junior it'll go 80+. 60K goes a long way here just cause the cost of living is so small here. And that's in CAD which is worth less than USD

  • @diadetediotedio6918
    @diadetediotedio6918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    43:50
    This is bullshit, even if Fireship stamped "SARCASM" in the beginning of each video he make, people would still be scared of the things he says, one should not blame him for someone ignorance and sensibility, when you have the option of "just not watching" him.

    • @jamesarthurkimbell
      @jamesarthurkimbell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Fireship can correctly defend himself as joking about any specific topic. But since he also jokes about every other topic in the same way, it leads to a nothing-matters, gallows-humor attitude. “We’re all screwed, we might as well all get distracted by today’s shiny new tool, whether it works or not.” I can’t imagine many viewers coming away from his videos with any hope or clarity.

    • @diadetediotedio6918
      @diadetediotedio6918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@jamesarthurkimbell
      I get out of his videos with a laugh, I don't think (most of) they are made to make people have hope or "clarity" (whatever this means). People should start appreciating some dark humor, or at least not come into videos like these and hope to have their heads patted.

    • @jamesarthurkimbell
      @jamesarthurkimbell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diadetediotedio6918 For example, compare Fireship to The Primeagen. Prime always comes through with a message of get good, quit drugs, work hard, all the most earnest advice. And he believes it, no matter how many “deez nuts” get sprinkled on top.

    • @Hmm-p9t
      @Hmm-p9t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diadetediotedio6918 fr

  • @user-mj1wg5oz2b
    @user-mj1wg5oz2b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    after this Fireship will put "Im Just Being Sarcastic" in his videos, instead of "Hi Mom!"

  • @eduardosabino4874
    @eduardosabino4874 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Sid has the biggest balls i have ever seen in my fucking life

  • @Luna__137
    @Luna__137 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don’t code often with js or do frontend much, but i still love your videos. Seeing someone who is knowledgable talk about higher level coding and seeing how they approach things and how they think is still very interesting regardless.
    Love your videos.

  • @abhisheknavgan6829
    @abhisheknavgan6829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Agree with this dude, I am also from India and I was also the victim of these TH-camrs, don't want to take names but in my second year of college when I should have been focusing on learning fundamentals development they told us that learning system design in an essential for beginners and well learn so much of programming principles from this course which will help us to learn other things, but as per my experience it was a very high-level course, literally no focus on beginners, only targetted towards how to crack interview which I don't think I needed at this point, it was my first and last paid course and now I love to just learn things from the open internet rather than trusting a dude sitting on social media with numbers

    • @__arid0__
      @__arid0__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      why the hell you buy a paid course? If you want to learn a language or framework, just read the official docs first.

    • @theunknown4834
      @theunknown4834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@__arid0__ I don't think we have to be mean over that. Many, many people think the paid stuff is better than the free things that are on the internet (easier to understand than documentation, able to give a starting point etc.). While the quality *may* be better, sometimes we find that the things they are offering are not the things we are looking for.

    • @__arid0__
      @__arid0__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theunknown4834 I don't mean to be rude, apologies. What I'm trying to say paid courses aren't high value. In fact it provides less value than free resources.

    • @gandalfthegrey2777
      @gandalfthegrey2777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@__arid0__ he didn't buy it for language or framework though, as he said they were teaching other disciplines like system design or programming principles, things other than basic syntax

  • @adrianmalkovich7101
    @adrianmalkovich7101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This guy is 100% correct about PHP, and the criticism that it isn't scalable is irrelevant. The problem is that most tech TH-camrs are Americans who worked at huge companies like Twitch. But the real-world situation of software development is that 99% of projects are small, like building online forms for some local municipality, or some kind of data transfer software for a proprietary industry-specific 3D scanner, or some other niche thing.
    So we're getting our information from people who work in teams of hundreds of people to make products for millions, but in reality, we're working in teams of a dozen people to make software for tens of thousands of people.
    This is a huge issue, because when that municipality tenders their project, all of the offers they get is for two-year React or Angular projects, when in reality, they need a six-month PHP project.

    • @A2music
      @A2music 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I literally did dev work for a local municipality (the one I live in) and learned php to do it lol. Granted it was just a placement for school but still, having those skills is very good and I can now make a WordPress plugin and write php in the future if I have to. I noticed just how many sites for other small towns in and around my area run on the exact same systems.

    • @diamondkingdiamond6289
      @diamondkingdiamond6289 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PHP is more scalable than anything you'll get in javascript and nodejs land.

  • @i4mdh
    @i4mdh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I didn't use to follow Dev TH-camrs because it seen that all they talked about was about money, trends and not interesting nerd stuff. That was until I found Fireship, Theo and The Prime Time. I didn't realise it until this video.

  • @masamaeda9217
    @masamaeda9217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm only about halfway through the video, but you touched on something that I don't think I ever really recognize about myself. And that's that I since I started programming bar one or two people, I haven't met anyone who is as passionate as me about software and coding. And it has been devastatingly lonely.
    For a lot of people it's either a way to make money or a means to an end, and being around those kinds of people has really sucked the joy out of programming for me in recent years; especially since my social pool is much smaller.
    I'm really glad you're making content on youtube. I feel like I'm starting to feel that passion come back after watching people like you and Prime.

  • @devdeclan
    @devdeclan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fireship isn’t fear-mongering; he offers the latest and most up-to-date information.

  • @IM4fLEX
    @IM4fLEX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bruh In India, they are selling dreams left and right, what you saying😂😂😂😂

  • @TheOfficialStapler
    @TheOfficialStapler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im 13 years old and I dont have anyone to talk to abt code. I have tried to teach my friends but i was tragically unsuccessful. So this community you, prime and others have built is a place to return for me to keep up with tech.Thank you

  • @AsaiaPalacios
    @AsaiaPalacios 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am in the 2.2% female group. When I began programming, it was with C and the school wanted us to really understand what was under the hood of things (programming wise). It was daunting -> I took a break, a 2-3 year hiatus (didn’t think I was going to return). Now looking back, I appreciate the depth of my first stint coding, and when I retook it, I was missing this void (good in-depth tech resources). That’s when I came across you & Prime’s channel. It’s a journey…gracias!

  • @whyv9338
    @whyv9338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The part where you are talking about the newcommer being in a better position, was the thing i didnt know i needed to hear, because its just like you say, im personally coming from gamedev using c#, and ive been struggling a lot getting into the javascript/react ecosystem. Ive been constantly searching for a different way to do things, that is more familiar to me. But i realize it now, its like you said, i need to unlearn my stuff so i can learn the new thing. Thank you theo for that advice, i really genuinely needed that.

    • @AvikNayak_
      @AvikNayak_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can just go backend with c# route.

  • @joshman1019
    @joshman1019 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The FAANG salaries are unrealistic in so many ways. Huge tech companies throw money around when they can, but you're never safe. You're always at risk of being part of a huge culling when that quarterly profit number doesn't meet expectations, or corporate management decides that the project you've been working on is outside the range of what they want to spend right now. I'm okay with my $90k, knowing that my job is fairly safe. I can plan around that and still live quite comfortably.
    Don't ever let a huge, unrealistic tech salary fool you. It comes with a ton of paranoia.

    • @TimeLemur6
      @TimeLemur6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Amen. I work for a government entity. Do I make Twitch money? Hell no. But I'm not concerned about my job. I'll be here as long as I desire, making *enough*.

    • @serendipity-108
      @serendipity-108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FYI there are tons of medium companies and startups that pay decent. TC ~300K+ at a series B.

  • @johnpaul5836
    @johnpaul5836 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The opening image has a bunch of profile pictures for other you-tubers. The only one I am familiar with is 'Code with Antonio' and I have never heard him give any advice on getting jobs or career advice. He just shows you how he coded various apps. Not sure what is wrong with that.

    • @steelo2214
      @steelo2214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i’m here for code w antonio. my life would be a lie if he’s lying to me

    • @shawn-skull
      @shawn-skull 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yeah, but even theo and prima are in the click bait. So it doesn't mean anything.

  • @LethiuxX
    @LethiuxX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing that people watching TH-cam must always remember is that TH-cam is the high school of the Internet. You almost literally need to use the same mindset you had back then when interacting with it.

  • @dasaauploads1143
    @dasaauploads1143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They are selling courses, not job offers, remember that!

  • @Ostap1974
    @Ostap1974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Like in every discipline in the world, there is also a top 1% among developers. But you don't get there by buying a course from a TH-camr or going to the dev for money. That said, there is also job for other people outside the 1%. Not everybody is Michael Jordan, but can still play the ball.

  • @kittymedusa3618
    @kittymedusa3618 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fireship isn't fear-mongering, he is a prophet.

  • @sahiljindal
    @sahiljindal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I must warn that when he talk about TH-cam Coders, he meant Indian TH-cam Coders.

    • @Nostalgiaforinfi
      @Nostalgiaforinfi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The back drop at 5:11 is all indian youtubers.

  • @Iswimandrun
    @Iswimandrun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Learn rust is one of my goals I am changing it to make a user registration authorization sever in rust, SQLite backend, and HTMX front end. Concrete goal with a deliverable.

  • @ambuj.k
    @ambuj.k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know the video is fire when it's not shot in a studio.

  • @Jason-yr6fy
    @Jason-yr6fy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just a brief thank you to you, Theo. Watching your videos is like talking to a more senior dev sharing experiences I can learn from. I really appreciate it and defo came back for more since I started watching your videos. Keep it up and thanks a lot for the effort you put into your videos :)

  • @kshitijnigam
    @kshitijnigam หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally someone being honest. I always thought I am in the industry for 12 years and all I see on TH-cam were delusions. Awesome video

  • @arunaugustine4938
    @arunaugustine4938 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    His perspective is with respect to the Indian IT industry.

  • @Pavuk112
    @Pavuk112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so so glad that you two guys did put this on, finally!
    I could not agree more and in general - I used to go to youtube for quality content back in 2000s and was very happy and learned alot. These days its just about get quick money from views no matter the quality of the content. It takes hours to find relevant material and thats the huge problem - a person that wants to get to development, cant tell the difference. I have seen huge ammounts of terrible tutorials and projects before I reached to your channel for example.
    I started doing websites back in 1998, then started selling static websites in 2002. Make no mistake, I am no senior developer, I started learning javascript years after and when I decided to learn frameworks, I had 2 years the feeling that I should better stick to js.
    Anyway, wanted to thank you that you exist, keep doing a great job and dont get bothered by haters - focus on us that love you and your work ;-)

  • @ChuckAsum
    @ChuckAsum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey bro I haven't agreed with all your takes, but can say that the way you present your content and explain it truly is like having a riving technical discussion among colleagues which I definitely enjoy.
    I can wholeheartly agree that like you said, before a lot your era of tech youtubers it had just been shallow and cash grab videos about buying someone course or tool to make them money, nothing about the real joys of being a software engineer. Thank you for the continued videos 🎉

  • @markeggers8356
    @markeggers8356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exactly right about when you get into new technology.
    1. Does it solve a pressing problem that you have
    2. Does it solve the problem in a way that doesn't preclude you from other solutions
    3. Does it have a good community - people willing to help each other, and the committers
    4. Does it have a responsive committer community
    If you cannot answer an enthusiastic yes to all 4 questions (and probably several more), then it's best to sit on the sidelines, learn about it from time to time, and see where it all goes.
    Items 1 and 2 tell you the scope that you might use this new technology. Items 3 and 4 should be go / no go signals. A toxic community, or an attitude that what we do is the only way to do things from committers are signs to run away from that technology (or at least that project) as fast as you can.
    Just my two cents . . .

  • @Semtx552
    @Semtx552 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    im a Dutch IAM sysadmin, not a dev.
    I watch your vids to get a look into the dev world.
    To better understand how I can facilitate the work of devs.
    And along the way, pickup insights and a bit of dev knowledge . thanks!

    • @schtormm
      @schtormm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nice to see i'm not the only Dutchie here 😃

    • @MeriaDuck
      @MeriaDuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bridging the gap between ops and devs (and they are very often different teams, still) is one of my worklife-goals; having done both a bit of operations and a lot of software development. You're very welcome here in my opinion :-) (En ik ben ook Nederlands, de wereld is klein dus wie weet tot ooit!)

    • @Semtx552
      @Semtx552 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MeriaDuck wie weet werken we al in hetzelfde bedrijf! haha. ik zzp nu in den haag

  • @jimmy21584
    @jimmy21584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Take any coder off the street, give them a good team and management support, a project that suits them, let them pick their own tech, and I think you would have a “1% coder”.

    • @airkami
      @airkami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ambitious coder

    • @TheOriginalBlueKirby
      @TheOriginalBlueKirby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doubt

    • @TheOriginalBlueKirby
      @TheOriginalBlueKirby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Talk about a low locus of control. Take some god damn responsibility for your skills. There are people way better than you, and it's a huge cope to think it's just circumstance.

    • @jimmy21584
      @jimmy21584 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheOriginalBlueKirby how productive would you be with all those positives in play? How productive would you be with the opposite?

    • @TheOriginalBlueKirby
      @TheOriginalBlueKirby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimmy21584 Moreso than you with you weak mentality. Keep on huffing that copium.

  • @tuckerblackwell3691
    @tuckerblackwell3691 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The amount of ‘mic drop’ level points made in this video are countless. You’ve got a subscriber in me 🤙🏼

  • @IlyaGromov
    @IlyaGromov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    this feels like a non stop self pat on a back. The amount of "I"s in this video from Theo is insane

    • @kassios
      @kassios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you.
      This is an unwatchable self centered video and another attempt to milk on any webdev drama.

    • @FantasticOtto
      @FantasticOtto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reaction video = This is someone's opinion about something, and here is my take. You must be new to this.

    • @kasper_573
      @kasper_573 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His image is his product. So it’s in his best interest to get ahead and spin criticism into something he can control. Media has been doing this forever.

    • @kronik907
      @kronik907 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow! The programmer youtuber reacting to a video about other programmer youtubers has a lot of personal opinions about that space and how to do it ethically?? Who would have thought!?!?
      JFC

  • @murtadha96
    @murtadha96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was genuinely interesting and useful. I watched/listened to the whole thing while preparing breakfast and I agree with everything said.
    I should also mention that you and prime are my favourite tech TH-camrs out there, and that’s mainly because you guys are genuine. You say what you believe in even if you disagree, and that’s far more useful and interesting in my opinion.
    Love from Iraq ❤ keep doing what you’re doing

  • @stephentanksleymusic7240
    @stephentanksleymusic7240 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've definitely been enjoying watching the stuff that you and Prime put out. I'm newish to programming (5 years now) since I was a career switcher, but it's been pretty great to hang out in communities that are always pushing to be better. Great times!

  • @snowdingo
    @snowdingo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a teenager and used to watch the big tech TH-camrs, but I found myself lucky enough to watch your videos, Theo!
    Thank you for high quality(and of course reliable) videos🚀

  • @serpent77
    @serpent77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    43:03 Having Dave Plummer listed as an AI fear monger is unfair IMHO. Yes the thumbnail and title might be a little click-baity, but the content was pretty solid. The gist was effectively "yeah, chatgpt can code and is even a bit impressive, but it took nearly as much time to refine the prompts, fix the code, and find a bug in it that it likely would've taken to just write it myself anyway"
    I think that's a fair assessment and a reasonable warning since I work for a company throwing 150% behind AI (for good or /mostly/ bad). They are actively replacing anyone that they can with AI. A warning of this reality is fair, even if AI fizzles out as a fad to some degree. I see it the same as cloud, it's massively over-hyped, will be deployed more than it ever should be, will be touted as /the/ revolution, and will eventually find a niche as people and orgs learn it's limits.

  • @colinbrennan322
    @colinbrennan322 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instant subscribe to both of you. I love this, I love this message, I am so looking forward to this community.

  • @joshparker5779
    @joshparker5779 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    this video has taught me to only click on Theo videos when he's talking about tech and not social media drama

    • @kassios
      @kassios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah this is horrible. He might gain followers in the (very populated) indian community though.

  • @nicknorthcutt7680
    @nicknorthcutt7680 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love learning new things from you Theo, every time I tune into your channel I pick up on something new. I may not know any software language intricately, but I like hearing what you have to say because you are so smart and knowledgeable on the developer ecosystem.

  • @JaFupy
    @JaFupy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm 14 and I started coding 3-4yrs ago. I don't really learn much from these videos but they are fun to watch.

    • @amateruss
      @amateruss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too old... I was 3 when I started DSA.

  • @prodfragment
    @prodfragment 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for speaking about this topic. I always had this topic in mind, but I never see people talk about it in public.
    I am a very nerdy person myself when it comes to programming. My friends are also working in this field, but usually don't talk about it as much as I do. I thought I was some kind of impostor, because I am always so hyperfixated to this topic. That was a very very irrational thought and now I am happy to be a part of this nerdy community. Today I even feel proud to be a nerd and craving for more knowledge. You, ThePrimeagen, Pirate Software and The Cherno are people I look up to and motivate me to work in this field.

  • @Maniac-007
    @Maniac-007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PHP dev here, with ~2 YOE. If it weren't for knowing about you and Prime, I wouldn't be here where I am today. Watched for the memes and dramas, stayed for the wisdom. Thank you so much for building this no bullshit community and I owe a lot to people like you and Prime. You've literally shaped my career pathway in a positive way. Thanks Theo

  • @daydreamingcase
    @daydreamingcase 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2.2% female blew my mind as someone part of the 2.2%

    • @drane4563
      @drane4563 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      almost like top 1%

    • @daydreamingcase
      @daydreamingcase 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 ​@@drane4563

  • @neociber24
    @neociber24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    19:30 I am also tired of the AI is gonna replace us, we have been replacing ourselves for years.
    Each time a tool like AWS, Vervel, Wordpress, Wix, Squarespace, Shopify arrives you need less and less developers to do certain product, devs loves automatation so much that we automate our jobs, AI at somepoint will be the same, just other tool to create a product.

  • @Skinface1000
    @Skinface1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I agree with the guy on a simple surface level. But I also believe that you should not blindly follow or trust what someone on the internet tells you to do to achieve something. Always take things in consideration with a huge grain of salt, tweak them to your liking, use your common sense and do not cry that someone told you to do something in a particular way and cry about it afterwards because it did not work. It is your own fault, not the youtuber's that is selling sunshine and rainbows.
    Being in this field is difficult as is, and you need more than 10 years to be atleast half decent, and you need time, dedication and hard work for long periods. Then and maybe then you will close the gap to those "10x or 1% engineers" because it takes a loooooong time to get there. So please stop seeking people to blame for your bad judgements and take responsibility.

    • @scythazz
      @scythazz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally agree. Is like the guy doesn’t understand jokes and doesn’t understand how youtube algorithm works and is taking everything literally. And feels he need to come and make a video to babysit everyone to tell them the “truth”. I already knew this guy is probably a smaller youtuber with the points his making. TH-camrs use clickbait. It’s ur fault if u take it literally and doesn’t use your own brain to think critically.

  • @fionnlanghans
    @fionnlanghans 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Professional PHP programmer here. I'm still missing WebSockets, but everything else is fine for small deployments. If you host your application for a lot of customers (a lot of small instances), it's good.

    • @_DATA_EXPUNGED_
      @_DATA_EXPUNGED_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep. And with frankenphp you don't have to recreate the entire universe on every request now, so it's scaling so much better.

  • @kevharv
    @kevharv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Actively sabotaging new developers so they have a “learning experience” by causing an outage is a WILD thing to do.

  • @NithinJune
    @NithinJune 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I worry that his outdoor setup could easily get him geolocated and doxxed. especially since he’s making enemies :(

  • @Apstergo
    @Apstergo 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He sounds like a very wise wizard.

  • @shubhampatil-jn7qn
    @shubhampatil-jn7qn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "They should start over because they fucking failed"😭

  • @azazel-oss
    @azazel-oss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He is calling the right people out, it's just sad that the blurred ones are the worst of the lot and threatened him lol

  • @CoreDump451
    @CoreDump451 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I make 55k in Germany (without calculating the taxes I pay)
    My jaw dropped when you said 480k

    • @hallo7053
      @hallo7053 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      das ist verrückt.. klar viele sachen sind in den USA auch teurer aber hier zahlt man auch viele steuern und 480k sind einfach mal fast 10 mal mehr...

  • @nexovec
    @nexovec 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:59 Never thought I'm gonna be putting Theo's take into the knowledge playlist, maybe it had to happen

  • @herwighochleitner422
    @herwighochleitner422 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a few points to your theory of having learned outdated technologies rotting your brain:
    For my mobile development, I have cut my teeth on Nokia S60 Python development, did some JavaME on feature phones, did a lot of Blackberry, briefly Windows Phone and BBOS10, before finally moving on to Android. I can't say for sure that all of that _hasn't_ rotted my brain - I'd hope not - but it definitely made me appreciate the niceties of modern mobile platforms (like proper memory protection).
    I have seen it though: Way too young developers, being shadows of themselves after having gotten stuck to an outdated technology. Ever wanted to be a Microsoft Sharepoint Dev in your 20s?
    I think the most important thing in a Dev's carreer is, to not be afraid to move on.

  • @nostalgianinja
    @nostalgianinja 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your mention at 55:00 about making a production failure happen happened to me at one point and accepting it made me grow into the person I am. I'll admit, it made me sweat a bit but I'm glad that I learned a valuable lesson in sanitizing my inputs as a result of that fuck up.

  • @himankshu
    @himankshu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:30 I think the manager want kind of candidates whom they can order to do their job according to the manager himself. When the managers feels the vibe that this person is more knowledgeable, he try to play safe and he doesn’t want to argue and just want to complete jobs according to him and rather not willing to ask the employee’s opinion and execute his/her ideas.

  • @brando8314
    @brando8314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Theo, fear (especially about the AI taking our jobs) is a trickle down effect from the large companies that profit off that fear. If they can get an influencer properly "scared" about the future of the industry, we can't totally blame that influencer, he's just a by-product of their product, which is the fear (that sells or creates a drive toward a product).

  • @dmsys6516
    @dmsys6516 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing i will point out is people under 18 usually use a 18+account(or parents email) with fake age so they dont get restricted to watch anything so the that number will be a lil higher in practical numbers

  • @ArcheryLuna
    @ArcheryLuna 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Theo. Thank you for making great content. As a 17 year-old I fell into the trap of purchasing stuff like this but luckly i didnt jump the gun and found you and prime at age 16. TSYM!!!

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd also say its an issue with IT support/guides also. I was watching one specific guy (I won't mention names) where it eventually was clear that all he was doing with his "Guide to active directory" "guide to DNS" was reading out the first few pages of a book, making it about 3 videos then never finishing it. When he explained how he used to be a CCTV installer and then when he gave "backup" advice, it was clear this was the case. His backup advice was totally wrong and I stopped watching. Sadly, he's some how managed to get over 1 million subs.
    I think the coding side suffers from this issue also.

  • @Storytelless
    @Storytelless 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Theo! Female viewer from Ukraine here, love your videos, they inspired me so much and helped to overcome somme anxieties and start learning new great tools and technologies ❤❤❤

  • @NicolasKeil-b7j
    @NicolasKeil-b7j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel really changed the game for tech youtube. Every tech video I watched before was suuuper surface level in comparison, and while they might have given some good pointers for an absolute beginner, didn’t provide much substantial knowledge. This channel has sincerely made a huge impact on my skill as a dev and informed a ton of my tool picks as a CTO.

  • @davidrempel433
    @davidrempel433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing I feel like is often left out, it's so easy to destroy you're health. You often don't realize it until it's too late. Now you have carpal tunnel, eye strain, and RSI. Mistakes like that can cost you're whole career.

  • @pierre-emmanuelwulfman104
    @pierre-emmanuelwulfman104 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I call liars. This guy is not talking about software engineering. This guy is dropping valuable life lessons. Thanks for sharing ❤

  • @bernard-ng
    @bernard-ng 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:34 I'm a native French speaker and that's completely true, I've learnt a lot about technical English watching your videos

  • @megamind452
    @megamind452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One thing I read that changed my mind was - "you can't defeat a person who code with an interest" The more the interest, the more is his level.

  • @germantoenglish898
    @germantoenglish898 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Especially if English isn't your first language, Fireship's satire may go over your head. Maybe a disclaimer in the description of their videos would help.

  • @tipsypineapple
    @tipsypineapple 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep up the great stuff Theo 💪 it’s refreshing to hear your transparent goals for your own reasons to going into TH-cam. I love your work.

  • @barefootfunk
    @barefootfunk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miss those interviews with other devs! That captured the lunchtime water cooler talk vibe so well!!! (Long time follower and huge fan.)

  • @happieplantnl
    @happieplantnl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That bit about talking to peers is so relatable. I study IT, but I know literally no one who is as nerdy as me about programming. There is no one I can talk to about cool new things in this space.
    (Also under 18 club)

  • @drooplug
    @drooplug 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The lack of intermediate and advanced content is real. Over the last two years, I've made a career change to networking. Starting out, a lot of the channels that covered this topic were worthwhile as resources. Now I've got the basics covered, and there isn't anything offering more advanced content.

    • @gandalfthegrey2777
      @gandalfthegrey2777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, there was an explosion in web content, maybe because it's easy to begin with and has huge demand so there is like infinite sources for anything you want to do with web, 10 different videos on 1 niche project, every type of project you want to make someone has a video on, language, framework, new feature released 2 days ago gets tutorials.
      but many other fields have very limited video content, like android dev has very limited youtube content in comparison

  • @isuperman1113n
    @isuperman1113n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have no problem with sponsors, especially if you believe in the products

  • @fridaybear
    @fridaybear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tbh as someone who really is a beginner, never had a job in tech or even in university yet and is just interested in programming as a hobby i find content from people like theo and prime much easier to watch than one of those python for beginner courses, i mean its not like they're directly teaching me how to program but the insights have been pivotal in finding the best way to learn how to program for me

  • @yashsha0077
    @yashsha0077 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    True, Average Indian Influencer

  • @enic-ma
    @enic-ma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Click bait to increase followers - when the video started I said to myself, this is a video to increase Theo's followers, and maybe yes it's true but it's how TH-cam business works, but at the end SID nailed and I do agree with him, TH-cam became in a driven sentiment machine to sale anything base on FEAR, HATE or GREED!

    • @kassios
      @kassios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Milking drama and self advertisement to a large indian pool base of viewers

  • @alexischicoine2072
    @alexischicoine2072 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine you have no passion for coding and just learned the minimum to get a job it probably won’t work. There’s way too much to learn to be too good for it to work if you’re not interested other than for getting a job.
    Now imagine you’re in a country where coding is a great opportunity and there’s not much else you’ll have many people that don’t care for it doing it just to get a job.

  • @opuu
    @opuu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The fireship part, who doesn't get his sarcasm? I want to see them.

    • @shyshka_
      @shyshka_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how about every single beginner casual programmer, read his comment section under his AI videos, doesnt seem like they understand it as sarcasm

    • @Hmm-p9t
      @Hmm-p9t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shyshka_ his videos aren't exactly meant for fresh beginners in coding. He's mentioned this before in some of his videos on the side and in some of his courses as well. Most of his content requires an intermediate-level background in some sort of programming field.

    • @shyshka_
      @shyshka_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hmm-p9t ughh no, lol. I dont see how thats the case

    • @Hmm-p9t
      @Hmm-p9t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shyshka_ That's simply what he states and what is the obvious case. Only a small amount of his videos yet have been for absolute beginners, like *some* of the hundred second tutorials.

  • @DanMaarDit
    @DanMaarDit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    50:00 You should really look into modern PHP. Whenever you mention php It feels like you are comparing php 5 to some modern stack. The same goes for performance, it is much faster than you think

  • @vicentealmeida1336
    @vicentealmeida1336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Software development is socially being discovered and evolving with this discovery. Similar to fitness that has being selling programs and useless supplements for decades, with social media has in fact expand and discover itself in ways that were not even possible before.
    People on youtube have been looking for content like yours for years, this community will for sure develop and improve itself and the job market with it.

  • @MARKOTHEDEV
    @MARKOTHEDEV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!!!!! very very very few youtubers relate to me i find my self waiting for theo to release talks or something so i can escape "youtube tech space"

  • @raimondszakis8337
    @raimondszakis8337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Moment you said experienced software devs looking at your videos at their spare time made me feel better about myself. That is what I started to do and how I get exposed to react-query

  • @shyshka_
    @shyshka_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    fireship is sarcastic, yes. But the problem is that he has one of the most casual viewer bases in all of tech, so obviously 80% of his viewers actually take him seriously, which he himself perfectly understands. Thats why I would not let him off the hook, looking back into all of his AI fearmongering videos, he DOES look like a clown. And dont get me started on his "courses" lol, the things I have heard about those from other people...

  • @dogonthego
    @dogonthego 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I probably wouldn’t even consider myself a jr dev. I’m in college right now for finance. However i do love coding and my current job I am coding python for financial modeling. I love watching you. I strive to be a better developer and this channel helps me so much. Thank you.

  • @zanfur
    @zanfur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Developer for 37 years here, professionally for 27 years of that. I have to say, the 1% engineer definitely does exist, and we can measure it (I'm not one of them). The thing is, the other 99% are still hired, because there's no way for a company to know before hiring. This is why the "trust" bit you mentioned reigns supreme.

  • @WebDevCody
    @WebDevCody 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Relax, companies don’t even like the top 1% coders, y’all rock the boat too much and keep hyping new frameworks too much. Stay in line and use java with spring boot like we hired you for.

  • @colinbrennan322
    @colinbrennan322 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh my God I hate the "regrets" videos. It's so goddamn tiring and so much of it's just shutting down the path to coding success. Like, they're so overloaded with "this is a bad path" when there's literally ten million paths and if you arrive at your destination *you should not regret your path!*