Di tahun 1986, Liem Swie King SDH mulai tua ( 30 tahun ) dipaksa main rangkap tunggal & ganda Usia tua TDK bisa dibohongi , stamina & kecepatan Sngt menurun.. Xiong Guo Bao saat itu msh umur 20 tahun. Hasil bisa berbeda jk King TDK main rangkap tunggal & ganda atau jk Indonesia menurunkan Liem Swie King + Kartono Utk vs Tian Bing Yie + Lie Yong Bo. King + Kartono sllu menang jk vs Bing Yie + Yong Bo. King + Bobby lbh cocok sllu menang jk vs Park Joo Bong + Kim Moon Soo
THIS WAS THE 1986 THOMAS CUP FINAL BETWEEN DEFENDING CHAMPIONS INDONESIA AND CHINA AT THE ISTORA SENAYAN. THE SCORE AT THIS STAGE WAS TIED 1-1.YANG YANG HAD GIVEN CHINA THE LEAD OUT PLAYING INDONESIA'S FAVOURITE SON THE 1983 WORLD CHAMPION ICUK SUGIARTO IN STRAIGHTS.BUT LUIS PONGGOH THEN TIED THE SCORE AT 1-1 OVERCOMING DING QI QING IN THREE SETS. SO IT WAS EITHER LIEM SWIE KING OR XIANG GUO BAO WHO MUST WIN THIS THIRD SINGLES TO GIVE EITHER TEAM THE UPPERHAND. CHINA AT THE ELEVENTH HOUR HAD MADE A TACTICAL SWITCH WHICH CAUGHT THE INDONESIAN COACHES BY SURPRISED.INSTEAD OF PLAYING HAN JIAN IN THE FIRST SINGLES INSTEAD YANG YANG WAS PROMOTED TO PLAYING FIRST SINGLES AND HAN JIAN HAD TO MAKE WAY.BUT IT PAID OFF IN THE END AS YANG MADE SHORT WORK OF ICUK TO WIN 15-7,15-1. INDONESIA'S GAMBLE ON SWIE KING TO WIN BOTH HIS SINGLES AND DOUBLES MATCHES DID NOT SURPRISE THE CHINESE COACHES ESPECIALLY HOU CHIA CHANG.IN FACT SWIE KING WAS THE ACE IN THE PACK. BUT CHINA HAD BEEN AWARE OF SWIE KING'S VULNERABILITY AS THE LATTER STRUGGLED TO WIN IN THREE SETS AGAINST MALAYSIA'S FOO KOK KEONG IN THE SEMIFINALS.SWIE KING HAD TO DIG DEEP IN HIS RESERVES TO WIN THE DECIDING SET. GUO BAO'S STRATEGY WAS TO TIRE OUT SWIE KING AND HE DID MORE THAN JUST THAT.HE WAS WILLING TO GO FOR THE RUBBER BUT THIS HE NEED NOT TO AS HE WON 15-13,15-13. SWIE KING INDEED WAS UNSURE OF HIMSELF WHETHER TO WIN THIS SINGLES TIE WITH GUO BAO OR CONSERVED HIS ENERGY FOR THE ALL IMPORTANT LAST DOUBLES TIES PARTNERING BOBBY ERTANTO AGAINST LI YONG BO AND TIAN BING YI. AS IT TURNED OUT SWIE KING LOST ON BOTH COUNTS.BOTH HE AND ERTANTO LOST 15-12,15-9 TO YONG BO AND BING YI AND INDONESIA SURRENDERED THE THOMAS CUP TO CHINA. IT WAS OBVOIUS THAT SWIE KING WAS NOT FULLY FIT TO PLAY IN BOTH SINGLES AND DOUBLES AND THE INDONESIAN COACHES SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.
Xiong Guo Bao TDK bagus2 amat, nasib mujur RRC menang dg mngubah susunan tjnggal putra , shngga pbdminton tunggal Indnsia saat final jelas trlht grogi ( terutama Icuk yg kmbli vs Yang Yang , pdhl prediksi tim Indnsia berharap Icuk vs Han Jian )
By 1984 the Indonesian coaches should have been known it better that Liem Swie King was no longer the formidable singles player he was four to five years back. That year even though Indonesia did regain the Thomas Cup from China winning 3-2 in a thrilling final at the Stadium Negara in Kuala Lumpur but Swie King had lost his singles match to Luan Jin.Just a few months earlier Swie King had also lost to Morten Frost Hansen in the All England final. Two years had gone by and the Indonesian coaches had never been aware that Swie King because of his advanced age was not fit enough to play both in the singles and doubles. But that lesson was not learnt and was repeated in the 1986 Thomas Cup final with China at the Istora Senayan. And the Indonesian coaches should have taken the cue from it as Swie King struggled against Malaysia's Foo Kok Keong in the semifinals.But they never did. Swie King despite his age was forced to play both singles and doubles.Had Indonesia played him only in the doubles the chances of Indonesia retaining the Thomas Cup is bright. But then China's Tian Bing Yi and Li Yong Bo had been in superb form prior to the final winning all their Thomas Cup ties in straight sets.Even a fully fit Swie King with Bobby Ertanto would and could they have won against the high riding Chinese pair?
For his age, Lim played admirably good. It is unthinkable 35 years later that any player can play both single and double within a few hours. Even god gets old.
@@chongminwang of course Lim Swie King was a great player but he was being forced to play both singles and doubles in the 1984 Thomas Cup and the 1986 Thomas Cup both coincidentally against arch rival China.In the former he was successful partnering Eddy Kartono to deliver the winning point and Cup beating Sun Zhian and Tian Bingyi in straight sets although he had lost to Luan Jin in the first singles. But in the latter at Jakarta he lost both his singles and doubles ties being defeated in straight sets.He should have given up the singles tie to Xiang Guo Bao but chose to play on and lost 15-13,15-13.Then he lost partnering Bobby Ertanto also in straight sets 15-12,15-9 thus Indonesia surrendering the Thomas Cup to China. But then Liem Swie King is without one of the three Indonesian all time greats.The other two being Tan Joe Hock and Rudy Hartono. And mind you Swie King was in the Indonesian team that won the Thomas Cup in 1976,1979 and 1984 and was thrice All England champion in 1978,1979 and 1981.
Indeed Xiang Guo Bao was the unsung hero of China's regaining the Thomas Cup from defending champions Indonesia at the Istora Senayan Stadium in the 1986 Thomas Cup final. It was his decisive 15-13,15-13 victory over Indonesia's favourite son the three time All England champion Liem Swie King in the third singles that would pave the way for China's victory. Not only Guo Bao won but in the process tires Swie King out as the latter would be a spent force in the deciding fifth doubles title.He in fact did just more than that.Swie King was confused not knowing whether to surrender his singles tie or just focus on his doubles tie with Bobby Ertanto. In the end,Swie King lost both his ties and Indonesia had to surrender the Thomas Cup to China.It was now 2-1 to China's favour in head to head clashes in the Thomas Cup series.
Di tahun 1986, Liem Swie King SDH mulai tua ( 30 tahun ) dipaksa main rangkap tunggal & ganda
Usia tua TDK bisa dibohongi , stamina & kecepatan Sngt menurun..
Xiong Guo Bao saat itu msh umur 20 tahun.
Hasil bisa berbeda jk King TDK main rangkap tunggal & ganda atau jk Indonesia menurunkan Liem Swie King + Kartono Utk vs Tian Bing Yie + Lie Yong Bo.
King + Kartono sllu menang jk vs Bing Yie + Yong Bo.
King + Bobby lbh cocok sllu menang jk vs Park Joo Bong + Kim Moon Soo
THIS WAS THE 1986 THOMAS CUP FINAL BETWEEN DEFENDING CHAMPIONS INDONESIA AND CHINA AT THE ISTORA SENAYAN.
THE SCORE AT THIS STAGE WAS TIED 1-1.YANG YANG HAD GIVEN CHINA THE LEAD OUT PLAYING INDONESIA'S FAVOURITE SON THE 1983 WORLD CHAMPION ICUK SUGIARTO IN STRAIGHTS.BUT LUIS PONGGOH THEN TIED THE SCORE AT 1-1 OVERCOMING DING QI QING IN THREE SETS.
SO IT WAS EITHER LIEM SWIE KING OR XIANG GUO BAO WHO MUST WIN THIS THIRD SINGLES TO GIVE EITHER TEAM THE UPPERHAND.
CHINA AT THE ELEVENTH HOUR HAD MADE A TACTICAL SWITCH WHICH CAUGHT THE INDONESIAN COACHES BY SURPRISED.INSTEAD OF PLAYING HAN JIAN IN THE FIRST SINGLES INSTEAD YANG YANG WAS PROMOTED TO PLAYING FIRST SINGLES AND HAN JIAN HAD TO MAKE WAY.BUT IT PAID OFF IN THE END AS YANG MADE SHORT WORK OF ICUK TO WIN 15-7,15-1.
INDONESIA'S GAMBLE ON SWIE KING TO WIN BOTH HIS SINGLES AND DOUBLES MATCHES DID NOT SURPRISE THE CHINESE COACHES ESPECIALLY HOU CHIA CHANG.IN FACT SWIE KING WAS THE ACE IN THE PACK.
BUT CHINA HAD BEEN AWARE OF SWIE KING'S VULNERABILITY AS THE LATTER STRUGGLED TO WIN IN THREE SETS AGAINST MALAYSIA'S FOO KOK KEONG IN THE SEMIFINALS.SWIE KING HAD TO DIG DEEP IN HIS RESERVES TO WIN THE DECIDING SET.
GUO BAO'S STRATEGY WAS TO TIRE OUT SWIE KING AND HE DID MORE THAN JUST THAT.HE WAS WILLING TO GO FOR THE RUBBER BUT THIS HE NEED NOT TO AS HE WON 15-13,15-13.
SWIE KING INDEED WAS UNSURE OF HIMSELF WHETHER TO WIN THIS SINGLES TIE WITH GUO BAO OR CONSERVED HIS ENERGY FOR THE ALL IMPORTANT LAST DOUBLES TIES PARTNERING BOBBY ERTANTO AGAINST LI YONG BO AND TIAN BING YI.
AS IT TURNED OUT SWIE KING LOST ON BOTH COUNTS.BOTH HE AND ERTANTO LOST 15-12,15-9 TO YONG BO AND BING YI AND INDONESIA SURRENDERED THE THOMAS CUP TO CHINA.
IT WAS OBVOIUS THAT SWIE KING WAS NOT FULLY FIT TO PLAY IN BOTH SINGLES AND DOUBLES AND THE INDONESIAN COACHES SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.
Xiong Guo Bao TDK bagus2 amat, nasib mujur RRC menang dg mngubah susunan tjnggal putra , shngga pbdminton tunggal Indnsia saat final jelas trlht grogi ( terutama Icuk yg kmbli vs Yang Yang , pdhl prediksi tim Indnsia berharap Icuk vs Han Jian )
By 1984 the Indonesian coaches should have been known it better that Liem Swie King was no longer the formidable singles player he was four to five years back.
That year even though Indonesia did regain the Thomas Cup from China winning 3-2 in a thrilling final at the Stadium Negara in Kuala Lumpur but Swie King had lost his singles match to Luan Jin.Just a few months earlier Swie King had also lost to Morten Frost Hansen in the All England final.
Two years had gone by and the Indonesian coaches had never been aware that Swie King because of his advanced age was not fit enough to play both in the singles and doubles.
But that lesson was not learnt and was repeated in the 1986 Thomas Cup final with China at the Istora Senayan.
And the Indonesian coaches should have taken the cue from it as Swie King struggled against Malaysia's Foo Kok Keong in the semifinals.But they never did.
Swie King despite his age was forced to play both singles and doubles.Had Indonesia played him only in the doubles the chances of Indonesia retaining the Thomas Cup is bright.
But then China's Tian Bing Yi and Li Yong Bo had been in superb form prior to the final winning all their Thomas Cup ties in straight sets.Even a fully fit Swie King with Bobby Ertanto would and could they have won against the high riding Chinese pair?
For his age, Lim played admirably good. It is unthinkable 35 years later that any player can play both single and double within a few hours. Even god gets old.
@@chongminwang of course Lim Swie King was a great player but he was being forced to play both singles and doubles in the 1984 Thomas Cup and the 1986 Thomas Cup both coincidentally against arch rival China.In the former he was successful partnering Eddy Kartono to deliver the winning point and Cup beating Sun Zhian and Tian Bingyi in straight sets although he had lost to Luan Jin in the first singles.
But in the latter at Jakarta he lost both his singles and doubles ties being defeated in straight sets.He should have given up the singles tie to Xiang Guo Bao but chose to play on and lost 15-13,15-13.Then he lost partnering Bobby Ertanto also in straight sets 15-12,15-9 thus Indonesia surrendering the Thomas Cup to China.
But then Liem Swie King is without one of the three Indonesian all time greats.The other two being Tan Joe Hock and Rudy Hartono.
And mind you Swie King was in the Indonesian team that won the Thomas Cup in 1976,1979 and 1984 and was thrice All England champion in 1978,1979 and 1981.
Indeed Xiang Guo Bao was the unsung hero of China's regaining the Thomas Cup from defending champions Indonesia at the Istora Senayan Stadium in the 1986 Thomas Cup final.
It was his decisive 15-13,15-13 victory over Indonesia's favourite son the three time All England champion Liem Swie King in the third singles that would pave the way for China's victory.
Not only Guo Bao won but in the process tires Swie King out as the latter would be a spent force in the deciding fifth doubles title.He in fact did just more than that.Swie King was confused not knowing whether to surrender his singles tie or just focus on his doubles tie with Bobby Ertanto.
In the end,Swie King lost both his ties and Indonesia had to surrender the Thomas Cup to China.It was now 2-1 to China's favour in head to head clashes in the Thomas Cup series.
Liem Swie King looks so exhausted...sure, he's in bad shape..he should have not played single and double...he's in declining period due to his age...
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