Medium Wave Pirate Radio memories from the 1960s

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  • @TRIPPLEJAY00
    @TRIPPLEJAY00 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I pirate on 87.5FM and work around another guy who has shows Wednesday and Sundays in Crawley, West Sussex. He has a nice show I listen and never broadcast when he's on. I'm 39 and studying for my Ham license. But long story short I would love to broadcast on AM after building my own transmitter. Thank you for your story's they are great.

  • @jasontwynn7356
    @jasontwynn7356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love all this old day's of good fun story's. I've watched them a bunch of times.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @RockyP77
    @RockyP77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    glad i found your channel.... i could listen to your stories all day long

  • @barriepeck4377
    @barriepeck4377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great stories back in the 60s i use to rig aerials up in my bedroom in somerset to get radio sutch radio city and so on.loved it

  • @ariboni73
    @ariboni73 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    listening to his stories never get boring

  • @Cephas049
    @Cephas049 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you get to be our age you have a lot of memories. A lot of memories that are fun to share with the grandkids, but things you didn't want your kids to know about when they were young and foolish like we once were. I never knew my granddad Kern. I was born in October 1949 and he died in July of 1950. Shortly after that Granny moved into a little house in town. I grew up on a farm in Central Kansas. Anyway, Mom used to take us into town to mow Granny's lawn, just a tiny little thing, not the five acres that we had at home. I was the one that usually ended up doing the mowing and t.rimming. One hot summer day when I was 12, Mom had taken me into town again. When I got done, Granny got two beers out of the refrigerator - one for her and one for me. I'd had beer a time or two before, but this was something new. I think Granny wanted a beer and she wanted someone to drink it with. Thus started a new relationship with Granny. When I turned 14 and got my restricted license, Granny started having me drive her to the liquor store. Granny liked Schlitz and Pabst. Uncle Stub liked to drink Granny's beer, but when he would replace it, he'd buy grocery store Falstaff. Granny hated Falstaff, and especially grocery store Falstaff because it was only 3.2 percent alcohol rather than the 5 percent sold at the liquor store. She got to where, if she knew that Stub was coming over, she would hide her Schlitz. So, I became Granny's beer runner, though she would always go in the store to get the beer ... until one day she decided to stay in the car. She said that, if the liquor store guy wanted to check, he could look out the window. She was a little old gal who had arthritis, so it was a bit difficult for her to get around. The first time it happened, the liquor store guy did check, but never after that. Then one day, Granny wanted me to make the beer run alone. She said that the liquor store guy could call her if he wanted to check. He didn't, so well into college I was buying beer at the liquor store for Granny ... illegally, but it was a different time back then. Well, you know. different countries, different times, but still the same for the times. Take care, and keep spinning your tales.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent recollections, thanks!

  • @driverfilmsshortwavechannel
    @driverfilmsshortwavechannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    If you wrote a book about these adventures Id definitely buy it! Love hearing these stories!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Excellent! Glad you liked it

    • @FPSAnarchy
      @FPSAnarchy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ye same

  • @Antony_Jenner
    @Antony_Jenner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice listening to you again Ray, your stories are allways top shelf..

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @984francis
    @984francis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Ecko radio is gorgeous.

  • @smcdonald9991
    @smcdonald9991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great way to spend 25 mins and 28 seconds.. Thanks for making this!

  • @claughton1345
    @claughton1345 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Beautiful description of harmless, exciting fun.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pwj Bishop thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

  • @glenwoofit
    @glenwoofit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love listening to pirate radio talk it takes me back to when I didn't do it. I've heard of a medium wave station in Wales using an old long dead powerline that was feeding the old mine. It's been running for years and never been found.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, I like the idea of the aerial. It must be excellent! Cheers, Ray.

  • @jrichards266
    @jrichards266 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had my license since last summer. I don't get out the house much hence taking the test to at least have the world to speak to. I love these videos you make. They remind me of my teenage years! Also although diverse, they are Informative and a pleasure to watch. 73 (for those of you who dont know what 73 is I am 35!)

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice to hear from you, James. I hope you're enjoying the hobby. I'm pleased that you like the videos. They are, indeed, diverse! Cheers, Ray.

  • @geoffreypowell9220
    @geoffreypowell9220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your Vids Ray are really rivetting , I love looking at them ....

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @kk6vqq-tim781
    @kk6vqq-tim781 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always love your stories, Ray. Not boring at all, not to us!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Tim. More coming soon! Cheers, Ray.

  • @CB-RADIO-UK
    @CB-RADIO-UK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great to hear about the old days Ray. I will confess i dropped off half way through on the first attempt but thats down to lack of sleep my end. I came back for the rest and enjoyed it.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      fredintheshed1 excellent! Glad you woke up! 😃

  • @gingerunit
    @gingerunit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You carry on droning mate! Very entertaining. Thanks. 73 G7OGX

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @charlieoscar09
    @charlieoscar09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great stories once again...Thankyou for sharing the memories

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      charlieoscar09 Thanks! 😃

  • @MidlifeRenaissanceMan
    @MidlifeRenaissanceMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey. Just found your channel with your stories of pirate radio. I’m getting back into radio after over 20 years. To get around the incredible noise on the HF bands, I have been experimenting with tuned magnetic loop antennas. A loop of wire acting as an inductor with a tuning capacitor. Gives you a resonant LC circuit. Pass that once through a toroid, 3 turns on the feed, and you have an antenna that only has a limited bandwidth, but in turn, picks up so much less background noise, especially all the out of band energy that a conventional antenna would pick up.
    I can get a 1.5:1 match across 500KHz on 10m, and a little less more 100KHz on 40m with the prototype ones made from RG6 with a short length of RG6 as a tuning capacitor.
    The trick is to get as close to 1/4 wave length to give you the most efficiency. There are a few online calculators.
    I find toroid coupling is more efficient than a loop within the loop as you see with many designs.
    Also, a word of warning. The voltage at the capacitor end is very high. Thousands of volts at 100W. I have had _science_ smoke and lights coming from the trimmer capacitors and coax stubs with prototypes I tested with as low as 40W. Fine for QRP. Rethink your strategy if you’re punching 1.5KW
    Just what I’ve found in some research on compact antennas.
    Cheers for the content
    73s from Sydney Australia

  • @junglejammer1
    @junglejammer1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stories, Ray. I never tire of hearing them. I picture in my mind, you lads running around at night, stringing aerials and burying cables. What great fun! Thanks for sharing.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Dave. That's just how it was, running around at night putting up aerials and digging holes. Great fun! Cheers, Ray.

  • @Cultwatch123
    @Cultwatch123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are so interesting with your talks about radio

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @normanyoung6830
    @normanyoung6830 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Drone on, my friend. Great stories!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @TheRadiogeek
    @TheRadiogeek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy your stories so please continue to drone on. LOL. Thanks for sharing Ray!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheRadiogeek I'll keep droning! Cheers, Ray.

  • @johnmcmahon3959
    @johnmcmahon3959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your stories are really interesting Ray not in the least bit boring keep droning on i'm sure most of us want this

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      John McMahon thanks for the encouragement, John. Cheers, Ray.

  • @martynfletcher2054
    @martynfletcher2054 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video Ray - great stories. Keep 'em coming.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Martyn.

  • @MegaBuckfast
    @MegaBuckfast 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your stories Ray. Always look forward to the next instalment.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, more coming soon.

  • @mike97525
    @mike97525 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love these stories thanks

  • @clairejensen4859
    @clairejensen4859 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CB total bliss - Recently bought from Maplin Intek 520 handheld multi band uk FM and Euro am and fm :) Also still have Skiptech HS200 handheld stamped 27/81 legal fm

  • @far2manygadgets38
    @far2manygadgets38 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another good story. Pirate radio is still around on shortwave, and here in the U.S., on FM.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent, glad to hear it. Cheers, Ray.

    • @wild-radio7373
      @wild-radio7373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can confirm ;)
      ACTIVE in USA
      ♡♡♡

    • @wild-radio7373
      @wild-radio7373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen for me on the Westcoast ♡♡♡

  • @jarekjagielski366
    @jarekjagielski366 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A new video, yessss! Couldn't wait. There is some seriously fascinating stuff you share here with us.

  • @petemoss1938
    @petemoss1938 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 60s, yes I was there! Great times and great music! Keep the vids coming Ray, nice to hear your tales!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pete Moss more coming soon 😃

  • @winstonbanks1057
    @winstonbanks1057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Live your video I want to buy one of your Spectrum analyses

  • @mark_osborne
    @mark_osborne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love love love! these stories

  • @michaelaldred6529
    @michaelaldred6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are very entertaining this is better then the T.V keep it going makes me laugh.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @stuartpottinger542
    @stuartpottinger542 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely no droning, good stuff, very interesting sir, thanks!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @tonep3168
    @tonep3168 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant! Love hearing your stories.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers, Ray.

  • @m0dad
    @m0dad 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent stuff Ray. Not seen any videos from you for a long time. I thought you must have had a knock on the door. Hope you are keeping well. 73 from David M0DAD

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi David, I'm keeping well and still here! I'll try and make more videos and not keep people waiting so long. I'm working on the next one at the moment. All the best, Ray.

  • @darrelll1207
    @darrelll1207 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice video. enjoyed it

  • @weasel2htm
    @weasel2htm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These stories are good entertainment. Here in the United States, if you are caught pirating and have a HAM (Amateur) radio license, you can get your Amateur license revoked. I assume such was not case back then in England. I look forward to more videos.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, same here. I know one person who lost his ham license. Cheers, Ray.

  • @billthecat3159
    @billthecat3159 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my favorite vids so far.
    Thanks

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @colinsmith4185
    @colinsmith4185 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keep going "young man"I really enjoy your productions,reminds me of my youth also,regards Colin G1PGI

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Colin. More coming soon. Cheers, Ray.

  • @wild-radio7373
    @wild-radio7373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a Badass!♡♡♡
    🤜🏻👍🤛🏻

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha! 😃

  • @winstonbanks1057
    @winstonbanks1057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your a good bloke

  • @MrSuperheterodyne
    @MrSuperheterodyne 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant Ray! thanks

  • @clairejensen4859
    @clairejensen4859 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who remembers Radio GLADICE based in Glasgow who transmitted from noon Sundays to late evening? GLADICE is an acronym Gay Lesbian And DI-verse Communication Experience. I used to listen to it from Glasgow's Corton Vale prison where I was serving a custodial sentence

  • @madrad999
    @madrad999 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep um coming Ray, love them.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rad Redfern more coming soon!

  • @bills1613
    @bills1613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keep "Droning On" Old Man!!!
    I LOVE hearing the stories and the passion and humor with which you tell them!
    I'm a Ham and have been for decades too, but I got my start listening to Short Wave Broadcast and listening to and for Pirates.
    I always wanted to get into the game too but never did, so I love listening to you "drone on" telling your stories/memories from the pirate days.
    So please more stories OM! (except the ghost stories, I don't dig ghosts!)
    73, Bill
    BTW, I never heard or was able to find the second story of you, I mean your mates, using the pram. Did you ever get around to telling that one?
    Thanks

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think I did the pram one. I'll check. Cheers, Ray.

  • @stevedoubleu99B
    @stevedoubleu99B 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing wrong with a bit of droning on......keep on droning, sir!!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks,. Steve.

  • @JonesFilms
    @JonesFilms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love when he is like I did this. Awww shit never mind I just saw it.

  • @MirlitronOne
    @MirlitronOne 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of your best.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Cheers, Ray.

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse8385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could broadcast 24/7 on MW today and nobody would bat an eyelid, plenty of spare frequencies available!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed! I might just do that!

  • @RadioHamGuy
    @RadioHamGuy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good one Ray!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @richiep7812
    @richiep7812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you think MW is on it’s way out with the advent of digital becoming more popular?

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rich Parkin maybe, but I’m not sure. It could be used for community radio or something.

  • @ArlenMoulton2
    @ArlenMoulton2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ekco A22 on the bench! possibly my dream radio!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arlen Moulton it's beautiful. 😃

    • @ArlenMoulton2
      @ArlenMoulton2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      one day i will get one, im saving up currently. are they good radios?

  • @AsBi1
    @AsBi1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    really like ur videos

  • @bobbalser5284
    @bobbalser5284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your review of Retekess hr11 made me buy one
    Did you notice manual has no mention of sw operation?

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t notice. Thanks for the info.

  • @martinusher1
    @martinusher1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One use for a tiny pirate radio station would be to use alongside those vintage receivers. It would give them something to listen to. Modern broadcast stations broadcast modern material -- this way you can stream vintage material. (I've used this trick on FM to distribute music around the house for parties.)(In the US its legal to transmit very low power.)

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, it’s nice to hear from you. We do have low power medium wave transmitters here, which are legal, and great for using with vintage radios. It’s tempting to add a small linear amp. Say, 5 Watts. Naughty but nice. Cheers, Ray.

  • @Wyowanderer
    @Wyowanderer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing your exploits (I mean the exploits of others) with us.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @1fanger
    @1fanger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Ray.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll try and get the next video out a little quicker. Cheers, Ray.

  • @coastalsandwich
    @coastalsandwich 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you able to provide a tutorial or something to spring board from for building a transmitter or similar from a guitar amp? Was given one recently but not a musician or electrician so no clue how to trick it, am a computer science student though so quick to learn. It'd be great to put the box to some real good use!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Eric, I'm afraid not as it's quite complicated and time consuming. There are designs for transmitters on the internet so it's worth having a look round. Cheers, Ray.

    • @coastalsandwich
      @coastalsandwich 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once the study pressure burns off & I've some free time from my coming work I'll definitely look into it. If (that's "if") I'm successful I'll make a video of the results. I've got a good job coming out of the interest I've built from your videos :)

  • @miata149
    @miata149 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was so happy to see you posted a new video! Your talent as a story teller definitely does *not* belong in the category of "droning on and on." Oh, and do not worry about being perceived as a sexist (or whatever "-ist" is in vogue this week). Why? Because none of it means anything; most of us have grown weary and bored of being wrongly accused anyway. *Please* continue posting whatever radio subjects you choose to produce.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      miata149 thank you, that's very nice of you. Take care and all the best, Ray.

  • @clifffiftytwo
    @clifffiftytwo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoy your reminisces - please continue! Were the penalties for being caught typically fines? Was this crime viewed as minor, with no particular public shame or disgrace attached - rather like a parking ticket?
    I worried when younger about becoming an old boy but truth told, I actually enjoy it now.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Cliff, there was no shame or disgrace. It was more like a badge of honour to get busted! Fines were minimal, just a few pounds. Cheers, Ray.

  • @emerituse3390
    @emerituse3390 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suppose that the GPO is/was the equivalent to the FCC in the states?

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EmeritusE yes, more or less.

  • @mikedennington8856
    @mikedennington8856 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Missed ya over the months ya did no vids.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, I was very busy. More vids coming soon.

  • @coastalsandwich
    @coastalsandwich 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there anyway to donate? I'd love to buy you a pint for the knowledge! Your stories are motivating!

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Eric, that's nice of you. There isn't a way to donate but I'll say "cheers Eric" the next time I have a beer.

    • @coastalsandwich
      @coastalsandwich 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you enjoy it & you catch this fresh dose of sunshine we've been given!

  • @chrishenniker5944
    @chrishenniker5944 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you thought of doing something about the London pirate radio stations now? Say, something like investigative journalism or profiling them, as a good pirate radio guide?

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Chris, now there's a thought. Good idea. Cheers, Ray.

  • @gfb20001
    @gfb20001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Happy Days 🤗🕵

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, more coming soon!

  • @SpectreOZ
    @SpectreOZ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always Ray, I would disagree regarding the "droning" comment, people's attention spans have simply gotten significantly shorter over the last decade or so...

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      SpectreOZ glad you liked the video. Thanks for your kind comments. Cheers, Ray.

  • @ado75
    @ado75 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff Ray. Love the stories. Hopefully DAB will die, it's a duff technology anyway - too few of us are willing to throw out the perfectly good radios we already have.

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      One Time Pad I'm sure DAB won't last. Nice to hear from you. Cheers, Ray.

  • @radiorob007
    @radiorob007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can still listen to MW and SW!
    Before you click on the link,
    You must first adjust this online tuner to listen well, (Before you say it's nothing good)
    Also, the screen needs to be adjusted so take a good look! (So look good and be positive !!!)
    The SDR is in the Netherlands (in Twente)
    Http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
    Unfortunately, the conditions on SW are not that good anymore,
    But in a long time, hopefully, it will be good again! ;-)
    Kind regards from the Netherlands! (Rotterdam)
    Rob.

  • @kissingbanditt
    @kissingbanditt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell us a haunted scary story next time....please..

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      A ghost story... Hmm, that's an idea! Cheers, Ray.

  • @cigarboxguitar9519
    @cigarboxguitar9519 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If MW goes all DAB then transmit pirate DAB - Happy Days

    • @g4nsj
      @g4nsj  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cigar Box Guitar indeed!

  • @poseypapusdiazfamily4630
    @poseypapusdiazfamily4630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Real crime is not being able to control speech. Monopoli good independent bad. I think mexico considers it free speech and does not criminalize it. As long as it won't interfere with comercial ones. This is one way you can see how free people in your country are. England is not very free.