2014 Indian Chief Vintage Vs. Harley Heritage Softail Part 1 - MotoUSA
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- We pit one of the first Polaris-built Indian Chiefs against its rival from Harley in this classic cruiser comparison. Read the full comparison: www.motorcycle-usa.com/10/1717...
Watch Part 2 of the Comparison: 2014 Harley-Davidson Heritage Comparison Video: • 2014 Harley Heritage S... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I 'll try to be brief and concise.....if you're planning to buy a touring class bike,you OWE yourself a test rde on the INDIAN !....I've ridden H-D for over 50 years now and when I test rode the 2015 Vintage, I sold my RK and bought the Indian !....best damn decision I ever made,powerful,good looking and doesn't SHAKE like a dog shittin' peach seeds when I pull up to a stop light ! .....H-D is a O.K scoot,INDIAN is a BETTER one !....PERIOD !
Thats fact! Indian is better!
Funny, Harley Davidson's ENTIRE tour line was just named 'Bike of the Year' by 'Rider Magazine'...Ooops!
I own a 2005 Harley & l have ridden the 2014 Indian. You want to talk about valve noise? Ride my Harley. The Indian was quiet. Very quiet. Suspension? My Harley is a FLHRCI with stock travel. The Indian rides like you are on a cushion of air. Power? Indian walks away & my Harley has had engine work done. Low speed handling? The Indian was easy to handle at low speed & did not feel like it was going to tip in places where my Harley would have. Wish I had the money to buy an Indian right now.
I just want to say how good of reviews these both were. Too often on this channel and other, the "reviews" are just video of them riding, and them listing off the specs that anybody can look up. I want to hear the reviewers impression of the bike. Quirks they liked and the ones they didn't. So with that said, great reviews on both thank you. If I was looking to buy one of those bikes, these two reviews would help a lot. And that means I would keep coming back in the future when I needed help
Love my Indian, so glad Polaris is keeping the brand alive and well :)
Very nice videos.. BOTH. Sorry so many miss that it's a two-part comparison. Well done.
Best review that I’ve seen yet. In the 🍖! No fluff pickin!
Great 👍
This is awesome I'm really pulling for the Indian, Harley has had the limelight long enough. It's time to step aside and make room. Thanks Polaris. Thanks guys for the nice review.
The valve ticking gives character!
On a very recent trip to the Black Hills I rented a 2014 Heritage Softail for 2 days of some serious riding. Thank God it was unlimited milage. I dropped the bike off at Rapid City, got in the truck and was soon in Sturgis at the Indian deal. With in minutes I took a 2014 indian out on demo down the canyon road to Deadwood and back. I've never been on a bike I didn't like, but admittedly I have three Harley's of my own, so I guess I'm a fan. I found the Heritage too mushy in the twisties on Needles highway and around Deadwood. The boards where always scraping unexpectedly too. I did love the Heritage on lazier roads. Anything I thought was lacking on the Heritage was to my surprise better on the Indian. The only thing I found was the Indian was it's a little more clumsy when turning in a very tight space and there was more vibration in the foot boards. To me it handled better at road speed, gave me more confidence, had more power and better brakes. I found some of the fit and finish just a little plastic for my liking, but over all if I didn't think I might just be buying a Victory dressed up as an Indian, I really would probably buy the Indian over the Harley.
This is THE bike I dream about, have drooled over and hate to say but yes, had wet dreams about, thanks for this awesome comparison video. One thing I'd like to know is if it sounds the same as a Harley, I'd seriously miss that rumble. Love the look of the Chief and the functionality, not to mention the Chief has more flexibility for the roads (highway vs back roads).
Not to mention all that leather is stock, oh yeah baby ;-)
Harleys straight from the production line sound no louder than BMWs. The sound comes from altered pipes, available on Indian, too.
I believe Indian will have the advantage for the next 5 years or so. Harley has had a long history of resting on their laurels. With Polaris backing, Indian's probably here to stay. Motorcycle innovation will be great in the next few years. We may be witnessing a new golden age of motorcycles.
Runeguy33,we thought that about Victory to,then one day out of the blue,oh we're not making them anymore,not even to the dealers!
thanx for this video.i know you guys will give me good advice. i am planning to buy bike for long roads like heavy duty for two people.i want strong comfortable bike me my self i like indian Springfield and harley Davidson roadking which one will be good for me or maybe there is other you recommend for me my budget is around 30,000$.i will wait for your answer.
Love those old school lines of the Indian, looks faithful to the brand and better made. Here in the UK a long standing Harley employee says that Harley are not as well made as they used to be.
00:41 damn boys be careful.
All the other reviews rave about the suspension. I wonder why the difference. Also keep hearing about weight. My Street Glide was equal in weight and not a problem for a 165 lbs, 5'11 guy myself. Of everything I've heard, slow speed maneuver is tough. I don't recall it being a breeze on my Harley either.
i hope they sell well and force hd to up grade there quality and after market service ex new harley owner...
Finally, an honest review thats not bias for harley.
Awesome review, Jay! Or should I say "Mr. Leno"? Nah! Great review BRO! Ride on!!! Now I gotta get me one. :)
Love your reviews,
I test rode the Indian Heritage and Springfield and, aside from aesthetics, I think the Springfield is a slightly better bike. It felt just as smooth and solid on the freeway as the Heritage, but it's got a slightly steeper rake and wheelbase, so it handled better at low speed. I didn't notice any of the suspension flaws they mentioned though.
Did they touch each other at 0:42 ?
How about an updated review 2019
I am really upset over the engine ticking and clacking on my 111 ThunderStroke. It is so loud I get a headache from it. It is also embarrassing. I just can't believe Polaris would allow this to continue, even when owners complain. It just takes away from the beauty of the bike.
***** One opinion from one owner. This is hardly the "bad news" you were hoping for. I don't see other complaints or "observations" except from Harley owners.
Tangguh dan gagah Bro...motor impianku yg belum kesapaian...
Nice video brother I want to buy a chief classic. Can you suggest me fatboy or chief classic
For some reason I would like it better if they brought back the Henderson brand.
Which is better
Now that we have Triumph, Indian, Norton and Royal Enfield with comebacks, I am ready to see a BSA come back. I wanna see an A65, B44, or a 441 Victor done with classic lines modern engines.
I have a HD 07 fat boy lo. Over the summer I rode a indian chief classic 645 numbered . What a bike just smooth riding, great power, shifting was a little hard cause it only had 69 miles on it. Didn't like how high the foot rest where a little hard for me to get my size 14 boot under the shifter. Other then that I'm definitely wanting a indian. Tired of Harley problems. Harley is just stuck in the 40-50s on power Tran and some technology. Theyres no need for a handlebar change to take 7 hours. Believe me that what Harley will tell you I did it in 4. Harley is only out for you money. They want you to pay $50 for a Hanes t-shirt that was made in Vietnam Malaysia Indonesia China wherever. Just cause they put Harley on a shirt it's instantly worth 10 times more
why u did not left the sound of the bike?
I like the bags and seat, but not really into the front fender. I guess it is personal taste, but I will keep my HD.
I'm glad someone else also noted the Indian's noisy engine - i.e. clacking valve train. That observation didn't leave me with a very good impression. I also suspect that Indian's increase in new warranty is there to address some issues. I also didn't like the single turn signal indicator lamp, as owning a Harley gave me an appreciation of having an turn indicator button on each side of the bars, as well as corresponding left & right indicator signals. I gave the Chief Vintage serious consideration as the looks are second to none. However, the only dealer near me for sales and service was 1-1/2 hours away from my home.
So I bought my dream bike instead, a 2014 Street Glide. The Harley dealer is 10 minutes away for service and they gave me a better trade in deal for my old bike. That was three months ago. Now last weekend, I saw the same 2014 Indians I was looking at sitting at an Indian display at a bike show. I figure this lone dealer is still having trouble unloading last year's models, even with lowered prices and extended warranty.
Austin Powers Trust me, there is NO Indian dealer "having trouble unloading" any model, especially the Scout, which are back ordered 4 months ... they can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand. The Chief Vintage is almost too beautiful to ride, and are a hot seller everywhere. As far as your objections to the Indian .... valve train clack and turn signals .... are you serious? The Harley is the ONLY bike on earth with separate left/right turn signal buttons, therefore if you've never owned one, this is a foreign concept. The valve clack is a non-issue on a Harley because every owner scraps the stock exhaust system in favor of far louder pipes, so the valves cannot be heard on a Harley at any speed. These "observations" are subjective non-issues, which only serve to support your bias towards the brand you prefer. Buy what you like, but at least TRY to be somewhat objective about your observations.
Maybe in your neck of the woods, but here in Southern Ontario, Indian bikes are like do do's.
A lot of the things said in this video about the styling of the 2 different makes of bike is largely irrelevant, as they both allow for so much customisation that you could make them both look almost exactly the same.
be nice to see the Triumph Rocket 3 touring on this comparison film
They can't do that, the Rocket III is way out of either of those bikes league! It's a cross between a sport bike and a cruiser bike. No bikes compare to that! A totally awesome bike!
This video is BS
The softail range is matched by the scout
The roadking is matched by the chief vintage
The street glide is matched by the chieftain
The electra glide is matched by the roadmaster
Now the sportster is matched by the ftr1200
Should be compared to a road king. The softail isn't really a touring bike. The road king has a larger touring frame and more suspension. Would be a lot better comparison. I suspect they compared these two simply because the Indian simply is a " softail" by build but a lot different animal
Can't wait til you review the MILWAUKEE 8's
I have a 2005 Road King Classic. That Indian out does everything that my bike tries to do. Just wish I had the money to buy one.
what's the price 4 this?
Need to do a 2016 Indian Springfield vs 2016 Harley Roadking
Btw I am a fan of the new Indian - looking forward to testing one, it's just not a fair comparison. Why not stack it up against an equivalent bike.
Would love to c indian get back into grand national dirt track racing
I love the new Indians. I'm so happy they are a real competitor against HD.
Love both bikes, never cared for that light brown leather look...
Well, reading all of these comments, and being from Milwaukee, and I know guys that work at Harley, I think Harley has a competitor. I've had 4 Goldwings. I may very well try out an Indian. Being 6 7 and 265 I need a big bike. I'm looking for ride comfort and dependability. In all my years driving cars Semis and bikes i can count on less than one hand how many Goldwings I've seen on the side of the road. I don't have enough toes for the Harley's broke down. To me dependability is most important. I'm a little concerned about the lifter click on an Indian. I'll wait to see how the factory deals with it. Cool doesn't mean shit, Name doesn't mean shit, when your sitting on the side of the road on a Sunday afternoon in the middle of nowhere, for stupid Electrical or Mechanical problem. If Indians are as dependable as my wings, I'll buy one
I am 6 5 and 237 and I am choosing right now between Honda f6b Bagger 2015 and Indian Chief 2015
See how long it takes for Polaris to stop production like every other company that has tried with it
Some competiton will be good for everyone. I'm not a big fan of the tassles on the Indian leather,I guess a razor would fix that quick.
Road a Heritage soft tail recently ,I'd never buy one. But it would make a good girls bike.
zimtuff The tassels are held on with Velcro, and are removable.
0:42 whoa...that is tooooooo close.
I would be pissed if another rider got that close to me on the road. Need some space.
Black Dynamite
While working on the movie 'Wild Hogs', gang riders were pulled in tight for the cameras. A bit unsettling to say the least..
That is the exact moment of Harley vs Indian. Both muscle body are about to clash with each other.
Okay, I watched another video comparing Harley and Indian and they said almost the opposite of what these guys are saying about certains aspects of each bike. I guess it is all personal preference.
The new Springfield version has heated seats and handgrips, never thought I'd see that. Some of the electronic features seem unnecessary and could complicate DIY maintenance and repair much like modern "computer" cars. My 2014 Subaru has over-complicated and glitchy Nav and infotainement features that continue to confuse me.
Did they say anything about the Heritage? did I blink and miss it? Yeah we get it... the new one is always the better one in "comparisons" the Heritage Softail is one of Harleys oldest platforms as someone else said lets roll it with a Road King rubber-mounted Twin Cam making more power typically than the softail's rigid mount with the new frame, front end and the 180 tire
Hi Tony, it is a two part comparison video and the Harley Heritage is discussed in the other part. Check the description for the link.
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Didn't that guy with the beard play in "The 40 Year Old Virgin"?
cool.
Now try comparing Apples to Apples vis-à-vis Indian Vintage & Harley Road King.
Still seems you boys favor Harley by even comparing the Indian to a SOFTAIL.... This model Indian vs HD Road King is a better comparison...
A comparação foi feita ,tudo bem,mas tanto a HARLEY como a INDIAN são duas motos e marcas consagradas
No, they have not been battlin' forever. The battle ended in 1953.
why wouldn't you use a road king with a 110 ... a heritage ????
Yes the Indian feels A LOT bigger than the heritage Softail. The softail is just a small bike. All the metric bikes like Kawasaki Vulcan are a lot bigger than the softail too. I tried one after riding a Kawasaki Vulcan 1600 and the heritage felt like a little scooter. I dunno why they make them so small. I guess it's for women and tiny men I dunno.
The Road King is more of a comparison. The Softail is a smaller bike .
I have both, and it's fantastic bikes. Less engine noise in my Indian. So it's kind of strange they mentioned that....
If I had to choose, it would be the Indian...
But I don't😄😄
problem is they get gross in the water. I never get them in the soil.
For the same price I would get the Harley-Davidson Road King. It has the stronger High Output motor than the Heritage Softail. The Road King also has dual front disc brakes with standard ABS and overall better braking then the Heritage Softail and the Indian Chief Vintage. In fact I am getting a new road king in about a month.
Do you think if it didn't say Indian on it, it would be more affordable? It's still just a Victory, and could have been $5,000 less under that nameplate.
The problem with harleys is that they don't fix all the built in problems. Year after boring year harley churns out some of the lamest worst made bikes on the planet. Why folks settle for all the problems and shortcomings I will never understand. A namesake is one thing but to have to put up with junk is another.
I'm looking forward to this new Indian, they put decent technology in the engine it's not overhead cam but the output numbers are respectable. Unlike harley.
Stan Miller I agree. I have ridden the Chieftain, the Road Master, the Classic and the Vintage, and I have also ridden all of the Victory models and own an XC. Anyone who says that the Indian is a Victory has not ridden both bikes (and probably not either of them).
Stan Miller I would love to take a New Indian for a ride, but hell the closest dealer is over 500 miles away and Victory is 100 miles away. If Polaris want to sell these bikes they need to start giving us dealerships. The closest Victory dealer tried to give me shit about buying my Street Glide and then I asked them how many Vics do they sell a year and he said about 10, 10 really.
Someday
Everyone is still comparing bikes to a Harley! Harley Davidson is the best. You don't see every other bike company comparing bikes to a Indian or a Honda or whatever, it's ALWAYS Harley vs everything else.
Ok guys........so let's say I gave either one of you a "blank check" to buy either bike. Which one you gonna buy????
needs to say "Indian" on it in more places
I will stick with American Heritage if I wanted a metric bike I will go with Honda
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that """INDIAN""" is nice , all you have to do to a Harley to get it right , INDIAN has done it ,lets ride ,
Well said, FOG it.
I have smoked every Harley that has dared to race me. Also the chicks riding on the back of the Harley's are looking at my bike lol.
Indian is going places . Harley is going back to the Stone Age to meet Fred flinstone & Barney rubble . Lol
Harley certainly has the largest market share. They have been around a long time and still rely on a "mystique" and reputation. The principle reason is Harley grabbed the domestic market while Indian devoted all its manufacturing plants to the US war efforts in WWI. It struggled after the war, and had its share of problems, including under financing. Don't forget, Harley has had a series of owners due to mismanagement over the decades. Let's not forget the 70's when Harley was owned by a bowling ball company. Polaris has deep pockets and they're not going away. I'm told test rides are available at all the dealers. Try before you criticize. I did, and now I ride an Indian Chief.
John that's exactly what I'm saying to ya . since indian been exhumed from the dead from polaris harley davidson stock will be going down while indian going up up and away from folks like you who buys indian instead of harley .
Indian, please build a new sporty bike with references to the legendary 8V
The only thing I don't like about the Indian (as well as with some of the 2014 Harley's) is there is to much new "tech" that should be 100% optional like ABS, etc...
Stuff like that should be optional because not everyone wants it.
HD you keep on building the same old fashioned twincam engine chain drive and you will keep on loosing more customers sorry but I'm not spending $28.000 for something which the engine is gonna fall apart within 80.000 kms . I don't want to pay money for an image but I will wait for these new Indians see how they perform within the first year but I like what I have seen so far the style the engine the xtras are just brilliant the vintage looks cool
Harleys fin . dept. , the way the factory treats you , there smog dealer ships , I rather ride a whizzer than a Harley , bill miller.
Loud valves saves lives ;)
God almighty saves lives and that's what matters.
They say harley technology is old and outdated but the so called high tec. Indian motor clacks like a diesel engine which is not very encouraging. But I must admit the indian is very pretty
For now I'll not be traiding in my Harley any day soon.
why don't they ever compair it to a Road King?
as far as outdated technology, I personally will run a big inch Evolution over a twinscam any time. the thunderstroke, only time will tell
Stan Miller
so your one of the guys that bought one of the 3 Indian chiefs that were sold in your state LOL
This all started when indian in order to bite into the market started puting down HD stating that HD uses old and outdated 110 tear old Tech and here is the brand new high tech Indian. There is not one aspect of the HD from the starter to the crickets you mentioned that hasn't been put down in comparison to the Indian. So don`t talk to me about bad mouthing`. Indian purists have done more than their fair share.
By the way if the all indian dealers that are full of harley trade-ins it must be a real burden for the 2 located in your state. LOL
Stan Miller
You’re quote
“+steve k no comparison...Road King loses big. I've had two RK'd and now own an Indian Chief...Road King is not in the same class.”
Well they finally compared it to a road king and guess what, it seams that the Indian is not the Knock out you indian purists make out to be.
ultimatemotorcycling.com/harley-road-king-vs-indian-chief-american-bagger-renaissance/
I continue to love the new indian. However, until they have some decent exhaust choices I won't be selling my Harley. The Indian looks like a beast and sounds like a kitten. Vance and hines please fix that problem!
I hate bikes with ABS...
indian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks great in pictures but,up close this bike is just ugly,jst my opinion,just cant get into it.
dinajet Totally agree...the HD is ugly.
WoooW I just demoed the new Indian and if it has a livelier throttle and more power than the Harley the HD must go down the road like molasses. The Indian was so lazy and lethargic in every way possible: shift gear 2 seconds later the display denotes a change. Twist throttle 2 seconds later the tach slowly reaches towards 2K rpm. The suspension is utter crap, wind pushed me around on the freeway, electric windscreen is in eye-line or distorts vision and reflects chrome right in the center.
Please. Your comparing the new Indian to a heritage softail. How bout a road king? What a waste of time. These bikes are not in the same class. And I own a heritage (and a road king)