Boarding Stable EMERGENCY... Can I Help Them?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Ryan helps a barn manager handle an ex-stallion horse that has become a safety issue for her staff.
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I cannot thank Ryan enough for his help!! This horse has made a complete turn around since this session and is adjusting very well and all employees are able to safely handle him!!! Thanks again Ryan!!!!!
So glad he's adjusting well! I, too, work at a large boarding facility and see all kinds of horses come in, especially the ones who aren't handled much. It doesn't make the turnout/turn in process easy if one gets like this guy did. Hope he continues to progress and live a happy retirement with you.
Very nice Vannessa.
That's fantastic!
Húge appreciation for yourself for doing what's right for the horse, your employees , your boarders ! This is something most wouldn't take on , they would just move him along ... , So kudos to you , what a great stable !
@@kristiwetsel9531 thank you so much! It was a decision I went back forth on (to put the stable out there like this) but ultimately I did not want to move him along. I wanted what was best for him as well as our facility and Ryan delivered!! So happy I made the call and went though with it:)
I would think him being a stud his entire life, not being used and most likely being segregated from other horses has a lot to do with this. Poor guy is now finally in a natural herd situation and thinks that he needs to protect his herd ALONG with the anxiety of his buddies leaving him. Perfect example of the mental issues that comes with keeping a stallion essentially quarantined and not treating them like horses.
Agree. He seems like a good boy otherwise.
@@eveningstar1 I agree, he had a lot of try, even in the barn, he settled quicker than I thought he would.
100%!
I have had my stallion for 8 years since he was 5. He’s lovely partly because I turn him out with my other 3. Herd dynamic is really important. Let horses be horses!
That horse looks quite intelligent and sensitive as well. I'm also surprised for a horse gelded so late that he's not aggressive or bitey or overwhelming. I didn't catch hold old he is.
That looks like a great stable! I love how the manager/owner is so interested in helping this horse (and is willing to take him on for his elderly owners). She also mentioned how she’s concerned that her staff is safe while handling this horse. I think she’s really generous and must run a great barn!
I’m glad the boarding stable is willing to work with the horse/owners, so many managers would blame the horse and tell the owners to move on, which never fixes the problem. Ryan, as always your timing is impeccable and techniques are stellar! Thanks for sharing this video with us!
I Agree 💯, I’m always glad when people are willing to ask for help. Thank you 😊
Watching this in person was super interesting and helpful. I was the girl also trying to catch my horse out in the pasture, the one in the purple otter blanket and ridiculous holographic tailbag. Ryan also gave me advice and I have had no issues catching him ever since I started applying his method. My horse has *always* been hard to catch, and he’s 20 so it’s been kinda ingrained in his brain, but has been a blessing lately about letting me catch him.
Thank you Ryan!
Respect to the stable owner for reaching out for help from the best (Ryan). Also, filming this benefits so many people and horses. Thanks!
Hello , Sir . Being a trainer for horse-back riding (working with kids , trying to keep them safe on the ponies / horses) , I need to say thank you to you for helping me to avoid accidents . Please keep telling and showing me how to improve horse behavior . I refer your channel to my students . - Greetings from Germany 🙂👍🏇🏇🏇 .
I think he's a nice horse. Sad that he is older and is finally getting a little training. Because he seems really kind hearted. Very good corrective techniques.
Our hard to catch mule wears a breakaway neck collar that we can get ahold of before putting on his halter. He now actually "presents" the neck collar for us to grab and he gets his treats when he does so. Haltering has gotten so much easier
Reminds me of an old saying: you tell a gelding, you ask a mare, you negotiate with a stallion.
And pray if it's a pony!
You have to ask my gelding, you can’t tell him. He will just get stubborn otherwise and won’t do what you want.
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@@carolynstewart8465😂😂 yes true that, especially a Shetland pony 😂😂
@@kymharris269 I had a gelding like this too. You definitely had to negotiate with him, and ask politely. If you "told" him what to do, he was very stubborn, and if you get stubborn back to him, he would kick you. Lol. I'll say that horse definitely taught me a lot about horsemanship and improved my skills significantly, that's for sure.
I notice she is moving backwards when he comes into her space. You keep your feet planted and move HIS feet. She needs to maybe be a bit more assertive and keep her ground when he pushes into her. I know, easy for me to say, lol!
I noticed this too. I agree, it's easy for us to say as folks just watching the video, but I do think it's clear that she is a little bit more tentative with him, and as a result she is walking out of his space when he moves into hers. She may not even realize she is doing it, so hopefully this will help her get a little more confidence and assertiveness with this horse.
I love seeing you work with horses in real time, rather than just showing the end result. I could see a lot of try in the old boy in the arena, and how quickly he could change in a different environment. I also loved seeing how you never lost patience, but just worked with him where he was at. Yield the hindquarters is going to end up being my mantra. I see how well it worked to get him focused again, and now understand the circles. When I was taught how to handle a pushy horse, I was told to go in circles. I cannot begin to tell you how many circles I did with my first horse (a very high strung older Peruvian). I wish I had known about yielding then. I know it now, but never connected circles with yielding until I saw this video. I am always learning, and you are easy to understand and learn from. Thank you so much for your videos.
I love that your insight into his personality and behavior had nothing to do with him being a stud. I think too often we blame everything on not being gelded, or being gelded late, or being a mare and because of it we do not understand the horse. I think hormones are a piece of the puzzle, but they are not the whole picture. 🏆
My horse was gelded at 6 after running with a herd (not sure if mares in the herd). As he has gotten older, he becomes quite stud like if there is a favourite mare nearby (friends horse) or he’s out in a group and a mare is in season. All new behaviours to me, so it’s a steep learning curve to work out how to deal with this.
Thank you for saying this! I know a mare with some anxiety and is a little more dominant, and instead of addressing her anxiety and working with her behaviorally, the barn just threw Mare Magic and some other calming supplements at her. I personally cannot tell a difference in her behavior. And I don't think that was the issue to begin with. Like you said, hormones may be a piece of the puzzle, but hardly are they ever the whole picture.
He's a real beauty.
Have to say that in my experience, many horses that behaves like this inside calms down if they can see out the stall. Like this horse may benefit having a stall with neighbours on both sides and straight ahead from his. If u can get him a window to look out the hallway would probably also help him feel safe. With time he will automatically trust the humans and be comfortable with the space.
Thanks for posting this! It was especially helpful for me to learn about when to yield the hindquarters vs tap them out of your space. I have a fairly insecure Arab mare who I have trouble bonding with... mainly because I think I sometimes do the wrong thing at the wrong time.
I also found it super helpful to see the barn owner working with the horse. Quite often I see professionals working with a horse and it looks so effortless and I'm like....yeah, ok, I can do that. And then I go out and try it and it's nothing like how it worked for the professional. It's good to see that we are not going to be perfect at it at the beginning.
Your videos are SO helpful!!
I'm so amazed at how these horses figure things out. So smart
I love how she reached out for help for the horse instead of making the owners move him and before it became much worse of a situation. I knew someone who had an older horse that acted just like this due to herd attachment and he became too dangerous for anyone to walk or interact with (except for his owner for liability reasons). Because his owner didn't train him and didn't fix his behavior, he ended up getting hurt one day while separated and had to he euthanized. It's really unfortunate that people don't take the initiative to help their horses. I commend this woman for reaching out for a horse she doesn't own. And thank you Ryan for all you do to help horses.
yes, it is very sad when a horse has to pay the price for the clueless humans.
Ryan, I’m not a horse person in so much as being trained; however, I AM an animal person. I was a Vet Tech for 4.5 years, while in high school and nursing school, with a large and small animal clinic so I had the occasion to interact with some horses. I say all of that as I’ve always been very interested in animal behavior. Observing them and picking up on their emotions/movements - especially those movements that’ll end up going pear shaped if not respected 😂 I came across your channel last night and I’ve watched several of your videos now. I’m learning so much specifically for horses and I find it all incredibly fascinating along with being very helpful. The cadence with both your motions and voice are quite enjoyable. I just wanted to take a moment to let you know that your videos are interesting and knowledgeable to us dog/cat folk too ☺️
Great content. Love your camera guy, he made me laugh.
He’s the best
He definitely needs some one on one times with a trainer. I hope his owners gift him onto someone who has the time and energy to give him nice retirement.
There you go!
A lot of good points - not just for stallions/ex-stallions, but every day horse manners. Really appreciate how Ryan picks apart all the pieces and identifies which behaviors need to be adjusted, which are horse's response to change in environment, routine, etc., and letting the owner know how to handle each, horse's response, etc., in order to keep horse calm, retrain where possible, and keep people safe. Ryan really assesses each movement and applies logic, and understanding of horse and body language - he never seems to take horse for granted or consider the animal as a robot.
You make it look easy Ryan. Thanks so much for helping that older guy and the concerned barn owner. ❤
Thank you
Stallons should not be segregated , my stallions run in adjoining paddocks to the mare s ,we have two rows of rails over one metre apart from each other , in the winter they are stabled especially at nights , the stallion stall is next to the mares but apart from the other stallion , horses need company of other horses to keep them happy , we serve the mares inside individually... it's great that the lady is listening and certainly patient and willing / wanting to listen n learn , she s definitely open minded .....a good owner of any horse !
Ohh what a stud muffin he thinks he is ❤ I love that this barn manger and team went so far above and beyond for their boarder. Love this!
Ryan is on it. On every thing this horse does. The barn manager was doing what Ryan asked but I saw she was still pulling on his halter. I hope she adopts this training from Ryan
Excellent 'triage' with that gelding. Compound issues, for sure. Separation anxiety, hormones, herd dynamic anxiety... Do you think a horse's time spent with a new herd becomes a kind of 'inter-equine' education, vis-a-vis the combined experiences of the other horses? A unique 'gestalt' in the herd with every arrival, or departure?
I'm learning so much from your vids; I'm hoping I can remember even 1/2 of it when I'm up-close-and-personal with a horse...some day soon, I hope. They give so many clues, when we know WHAT to look for, and when we learn from what we're 'seeing' when we do! 😁 Thank you, Ryan.
Loved your technique, as usual. You have the ability to read horses energy. I hope the handler can do it.....
I just love how the two waiting at the gate waiting were so patient just waiting and not fussing.
Thank you for using clip on mics. In previous videos I couldn't hear what the owner was saying but now, much better.
Oh god yeah! That and the waffle introduction that lasts 20 minutes before the 10 minute content
Ryan you make it look so easy! But you can definitely see the change in the horse when you had him then when the manager had him. I really like you taking the time to physically show her by handing over the lead so you can direct her and her timing on the yields. I too had a stud who I used for breeding then gelded later in life and he’s been super all along and pastured with mares and geldings so I am hopeful that this boys emotions will eventually relax. The more handling that can be done and repetitiveness he will settle.
Let me set my coffee cup down an move these feet! On point
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I have so much respect for the way you train horses.
To stay safe, both the horse and the human, but also to train and not just manage a situation, and ALSO taking into account the animal's emotions...
Much much respect. You are the best horse trainer/people trainer on TH-cam.
Approaching any animal from the side takes off the pressure.
I always do this with dogs too.
Slowly and from the side. It shows them you do not mean to attack them. Plus it will give them time to evaluate the situation. Which they need when they don’t know you or if they’re anxious ..
Love the camera guys sidebar comments!! = )
Glad you're available to help this situation Ryan ,,,, hope we can get updates on the horses improvement,,,
Ich sage Danke aus Deutschland.
Es ist der Impulse, der einen verändert.
Obwohl ich nicht die Wörter alle verstehe, kann ich alles sehen , erkennen und anwenden.
Guter Job !
Brilliant video from start to finish. Very well explained, both the cause/s and tools for solution/management. Ryan resolves and re-solves so clearly. THANKS
Ryan, you revealed a wealth of information in a short lesson. It requires a good summary, as you've provided, to handle it all.
I agree that with an older horse like this, limited handling and stallion tendencies, it's not worth the barn lady getting hurt trying to accomplish any huge "training". Because it would be a long road. This horse may never really get over his need to focus on herd dynamics and other horses over humans. That's what happens when people (the elderly owners) keep a stallion for many years and don't handle them. It's not the barn ladies fault and she needs to keep herself and her staff safe first of all. If they can't figure out a way to manage him, it would be best if they told the owners they couldn't keep him there, as another horse has been injured by him already, and a human could easily be next
Since this was filmed and this stable manager is getting great advice - wouldn't it be great for her to keep this video and show to her staff as resource to keep these points in mind. I noticed that in the first go round she unfortunately was using the wand to the rear of the house to get him to back around on the side you mentioned he was not comfortable with ( his right side ). Pointing this out to show that even though your points were straight forward - there is a lot going on for the manager who is concerned for the safety of other people and dealing with multiple animals. I hope the and the staff can find the time and patience to work as you indicated with this horse - because you can obviously see that your approach and observations / suggested training handling corrections will bear fruit and this is a good horse. Enjoyed watching .
Thank you Ryan. 🙂
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Love how you work with the horses with so much understanding for both the horse and the humans in his life!
I love the Camera Guy comments. Hilarious!
I learning so much from watching your video's. Just found these yesterday!!
Wow, Ryan...your insight....blows me away....I know nothing about horses, but I enjoy you and your videos tremendously. Thank you
I would love to see a series with this guy....I bet his transformation would be night and day.
This is excellent. We had a very similar situation at our barn.
When my horse decides to ignore me,I stand there and throw an apple in the air a reward times it doesn't take long for him to come to me, he gets the apple when the halters on!!!
Very interesting! I always learn something when I watch your videos. I still think you need to write a training book that starts with weanlings. I'd be the first to buy a copy, autographed, of course!
Great advice and teaching in this video. Thank you
At 14.44 it's easy to see that she is not aware that he is pushing on her with his nose and she keeps backing up.
RYAN! This is exactly what happening with my boy! Would you kindly get an update to see how he is now and what’s worked… please and thank you
Just joined your Patreon last week! I'm excited to get started 😁 thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Hi from Germany 🙋♀️
I learn so much from your videos. Thanks for sharing ❤
Excellent video, really appreciate the specific behavior explanations.
Excellent video, as usual. Thank you
I have so much respect for you, Ryan. You're amazing.
Awesome video!
Thanks Ryan
Ryan, I learn a little something from every single video. Thank you for posting a wide variety of horse issues. If you haven’t already done so, could you please post a video of what to do about a horse who is wonderful under saddle but dangerous on cross-ties? Occasionally snapping with mouth, striking out with front leg, or kicking with back leg. Last month was the first time I have ever been kicked by a horse. I had simply unhooked the blanket under the tail and went to unhook the rear belly strap. No warning. 😩
Family owns two horses, n they terrify me... don't know how u showed up in my feed but subscribed..
Your work is very thoughtful! Thanks a lot for sharing this, I learn a lot. It would be nice to include an update from the owners, I'm always very curious how the story continued.
Regards from the Netherlands!
I think you will be back there🥴
He looks like a saddlebred. I love saddlebreds.
Great video! Such great information and examples. thank you!
THANK YOU FOR THE VERY INTUITIVE & EXCELLENTINFORMATION ABOUT "NOT PULLIN GHIM TOWARD YOU" (sorry didn't see caps were on)but letting him make the decision to turn/look toward you -- how many times do I do that and my horse justs tunes me out . . thanks Val
Really enjoy your videos. Been riding and around horses for many years growing up but haven't for sometime. Just recently acquired a 10 year old sorrel gelding and a bay mare who came a few days later. The gelding seemed fairly settled until the mare arrived. Now more jumpy and was rearing up on me today when I tried working with him in halter and lead.
Great video. Thank you 😊
Outstanding!
Interesting.
As a retired electrician, I have noticed that so many of the commercial stables I have visited have poorly installed and maintained electrical infrastructure.
(Just sayin'...feel free to delete this remark)
So true, and fire danger is very real!
We just had that same advice in an older barn, the conduits ! and now we turn the whole barn off if the horses must stay in overnight.
Yep I agree been working in barns for many years and they have the most nightmare wiring
Horse looks like he might be a Saddlebred? If so, high neck and more energy is normal.
Thank you for sharing.🐴
I love your method and I need to do this with my mare
What's up? Ryan great video 💯🔥
this horse is so beautiful ❤❤
The camera guy not paying attention cracked me up! 😂😂😂
That would definitely be too much horse for me.
L-o-v-e this!
Your one smart man.
Nicely done.
He’s a good boy!
Love this horse and glad he met Ryan. Is this horse a Saddlebred?
If it helps any it took my colt a long time after being castrated to come around , but I wonder if he wasn't turned out with other horses before because he was still a stallion and the herd dynamics are just foreign to him , you are amazing though for all you are doing !
Poor boy. He looks like at when he was younger someone spent a lot of time with him as a stud to have good manners just neglect made him regress and forget.
1: Is he old or just young & skinny?
2: If if they can't handle a stud why do they still have him? sell him.
3: Keep the camera man , love him.
1. He’s old
2. She’s the barn manager an elderly lady owns him.
3. Ok
Hes not a stud anymore. She said he was gelded in June. So its just a waiting game really for the extra testosterone to go away.
Testosterone is gone in 1 month
@@kayBTR Sure - but the old habits and mindset from living with it for years, aren't. I know many a "late" gelding (after adulthood, but often just after) that still like to get into "stallion mode" years after the fact, and some that even mount the mares in heat! Just because some of the hormones in their body have changed in the span of a month, doesn't mean they're suddenly a different animal. That's just not how animals work, no matter which species we're talking about.
@@ZielOmizu Yes, there is always going to be some testosterone (in mares, too) as the adrenals produce it.
Camera man got Jokes 😂
Why does he have to be inside during the night? Horses don’t want to be inside.
If the pastures are just smaller winter pens than big open fields, they may have smaller shelters or get churned to mud & ice in little time.
Plus storms or predators can be an issue. Staying in overnight in the winter is a reasonable ask, as long as they’re out the rest of the time. They’re not exactly nocturnal lol
Poor old boy just doesn't understand.
Thanks for sharing
How is his Eye sight? Have the Vet Checked? Thanks for Sharing.
I had 30 horses with training help. I trained at most 10 or 12.
👍 nice to watch
He needs a barn buddy!!! Get him a goat or sheep!!! Seabiscuit I think needed a barn buddy but they found another horse, but I've seen people use goats and sheep! But ya can't take them away from them but still its nice. Maybe he's already found a horse buddy and he's upset he's away from that particular one.
No whip needed
I wonder if having a goat in his stall would help him be calmer when he's in his stall overnight? Might be worth a try, assuming he isn't afraid and likes them, if he continues to struggle with the separation anxiety.
I have a big horse ranch in montana 578 boarders no complaints ever’’
Awesome 👏
One thing I have notice about all the ladies is they like to hold the lead high , that is closer to the Muzzle by about a hand width . Anyone else see that ? I may be wrong !
Ryan, what is an elderly couple doing with this horse??
Thank you Sir.