Challenging yourself with different breeds is where I've learned the most.Anyone can teach basics to most herding breeds,helping the "neurotic" ones really brought clarity to some of the finer points of dog psychology. Your standards are you reputation,set them high. Great video&advice,enjoying your channel
Hey Larry. I really like your videos too. My favorite one is when you used the e-collar on you daughter with the skittles to show the collar is not cruel or mean. I love your attitude and techniques.
Loved this! I’m currently a dog trainer and in the process of building my own business right now. I agreed with everything you said. The “why” factor is so important! And I know many trainers that cap their knowledge at a certain point when they become a pro at something and they continue to do it and learn nothing more, it bothers me so much lol. I’m constantly learning new things. And I’ve trained many different breeds..and you’re damn right about that topic hahaha! I personally have 8 GSD’s and love the breed, but man when I get my hands on multiple other breeds, even small mixed breeds, boy does it get challenging! Love it though and I wouldn’t want any other passion in the world!!
Very true what you said. I'm not a dog trainer by any stretch but have had Rottweiler for 25 years and each one got better then the next because I took everything I learned and got better at it
Haz, I got another GSD a little over a year ago, my first one was a female, from a good working line and damn she shows it. But I digress. The new one is a white GSD, not from a stellar line. But, I found your channel around the time we got him. He's a solid pet, that's all he will really ever be most likely, but a good boy, you helped a lot with that. He's eager to learn and has a awesome temperament and acceptable obedience. Always improving tho. I grew up working with big dogs (I say working as in trying to train my house dogs, mostly big, weimaraner, boxers, walkers, and various other hounds. We owned a lot of dogs that had jobs, they were meant to hunt, that's it.) And also horses. I broke horses and trained them to run barrels, poles, rope, etc. So naturally now I want to get out of a career that sucks ass, and build a business doing something I love and been doing a lot of my life and not really knowing it until now. I use to be the type of "trainer" (for all intensive purposes) that couldn't explain why I was doing something, I just knew it worked so I kept with it. Now over the past year and change, I've learned so many new techniques and the reasoning behind it, and I've made a for real and definite decision to go after this and make something. The market is wide open in my state (u.s. South Carolina) and I have a plan already in place to dip my toes in while I'm still wrapped up in this career, (to hopefully build in the next couple of years and make a transition later) offering free basic obedience classes in my neighborhood for dogs that don't have it (literally every one I see). I dont know if you will see a comment on a video this old, but if you do, I just wanted to let you know you inspired me, and I'm doing this for real. Hopefully one day I will be able to consider you a peer. Great job, I will continue looking to your company for information whenever you put it out and I'm glad there is someone like you putting real information out here for curious minds like my own! Thanks, Rob
This is exactly what I wanted to know. Actually almost... been curious about your background and also how you got into protection training which is a goal of mine. I have a long way to go, but think I'll always feel that way. I've read countless books and am with over 20 dogs a day doing training. The experience is important and getting new information is only helpful if its applied and experienced or can help someone else. I agree with everything you've said and look forward to developing as a trainer to just become more effective. Sport training and protection are what I have my eyes set on. I want to be like you.
Thanks for the advice, Helps a lot. Mainly finding anything i can to make sure i can train my next dog better then my past dogs. but started thinking on dog training from it. enjoy trying to figure out what makes dogs tick and all the different ways you can go at something.
This was really helpful, I take accountability in everything I do, & where i'm failing is getting my dogs aggression out when biting, or getting her to bite correctly. She has it in her genes she half shepard half malinois, I know alot of this from me having small experience. Thank you for this video.
I love this!!!! I trained several Jack Russell's and a Border Collie and a LOT of people think I'm a "DOG TRAINER". I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa lets not get carried away here! lol! BUT it is something that I've always been SUPER interested in! I DO LOVE TO TRAIN, but I haven't trained many. This was very interesting to hear your take on this! Right now I have a Malinois puppy, and she is completely different story (obviously)! lol! Oh, and I've also helped with training lots of breeds of hound breeds for various hunting.
Michael Ellis is really good teacher, I really think it’s important to keep a humble mind when doing something. I have trained different dogs but my favorite are GSDs. Just makes me feel like I’m doing something right. I trained an Akita and the owners thought I was robbing them. I had a sharpei that OMG, I couldn’t have him to sit to save his life but at the end, learned a lot. Talking about trainers’ own dogs, I’m guilty lol. My GSD doesn’t like to train, has very low energy, has no food drive, has no bite drive. It’s like if she wasn’t a dog. She learns fast but very difficult to get 5 mins session. Good video. Spot on about what makes you a trainer....
@@KK-dn8yj you should know there are different types of trainers. I’m not a behavioral trainer. I’m a puppy trainer. I can do behavioral but I’m not good at it. I have also trained old dogs for leash walking, recall and basic stuff. Not all dogs are good for training. Some are smarter than other but it doesn’t mean they won’t learn. It just means it takes more time.
I would really appreciate if you could make a video on inside games to teach important things like focus and also challenge my dog mentally. As I'm sure you experience, here in Minnesota when the high is below 10 degrees, its hard to do a lot of outside work.
I cannot talk about dog trainers, for i am not one. But i am a boxing coach and a strength trainer. I became a boxing coach not bcs i wanted to be that, but bcs i was a european class boxer that got injured. Same with the strength training. I was injured (again), and all that rehab shit didn't work, so i trained myself up to a deadlift of 600, and the other lifts accordingly. I see fitness trainers all the time that know it all, but are weak like chinese tea. In my opinion, you've got to be strong as fuck in one point of your life to coach how to get there.
I kinda fancy becoming a dog trainer, I'm actually a carpenter and joiner right now but used lockdown to train my dog and a few naighbours. Unfortunately we live in a world where you get abuse if your not 100% positive only🙄 people see a ecoller(mini educator) and loose there shit calling it a shock coller and your abusive.
bruce Peterson ok looked up the mini educator can we use this in the UK I want to use it on my dog, I had to use the slip chain at 6 months as she ruptured my shoulder pulling my arm left to right lunging at all sorts the birds bees leaves any moveing flying object on the street, it just got stupid as we had to cross a major road, she was getting more powerful, So at 6 months I was like right old school teaching for her, within half an hour she was tought to walk on the (aka choke chain slip chain) but I just can not deter her from lunging at rowdy dogs, up she goes on her back legs I prep the chain high but up she goes 😡 Also her recall is terrible so defo want to try this if possible. Altough I think I'd get a lot of stigma about it, The looks I get with the chain but hay 🙈
@@eunice8116 give David Eades or roddy kirk be pack leader a shout on facebook😁 I had roddy help me fit a mini educator et300 with my labrador for recall. Best tool I have EVER used. Check out jaxthelovinglab on youtube and Instagram (my dog, as seen in the pic beside this comment) youl see just how perfectly happy he is with an ecollar when used properly. And well trained👍 The 2 trainers I mentioned are among thee best in the country.
Same thing in Canada and it's okay. There's no shortage of customers. Do your thing, deliver results and educate your customers. You can be a carpenter and dog trainer at the same time.
Would love to get into dog training. Been training my GSD during lockdown. Want to start breeding good lines and would also like to start training as well
"Any idiot can hang a shingle out and call themselves a dog trainer, and many of them do. You can even have a tv show and call yourself a dog trainer and some of them do." we all know who he was talking about 👀😂😂😂
Only in Germany have a certification to be a dog trainer. For me you has to have a balance aproch and huge space for training facility, different aproch for every breed and ppl.
You are a master craftsman not an engineer. It's not a judgment: master craftsmen built cathedrals and caravels, engineers built that gizmo that I bought and threw in the trash the next day. The difference is that engineers learn their trade mostly from books (so it's very rule-based and the knowledge is transferrable) and master craftsmen learn by experience and direct knowledge transfer (what the heck does it mean "those vegetables are not done yet, boil them a bit more" and how exactly do you know a dog is fit for protection work other than "you just know")
My biggest thing is I lose my patience! especially when they are doing so well till then they see someone or another high energy dog and it all goes out the window. 😡
Here's the thing, the positive force free lobby is getting strong. Most shelters in my area have adopted this regime. I forsee that it won't be long before they become the governing body and set the standards for dog training. Then you and balanced trainers and e collars and pinch collars etc will be banned here too followed by bite sports and other dog sports. I hope there is an political organization that you support that will curb this eventuality?
Living beings are inherently built to receive consequence for poor decisions, therefore they are also built to comprehend and grow from a consequence so that a worse consequence, such as its demise, does not occur. THIS is science.
@@zareth-shahar And how many sources cited generally? 0. How many sources cited specifically that have to do with dog training? Also 0. So this "science" you talk about stinks of you pulling it out of your ass LOL
i also think a lot of new trainer see before and after videos of more exprienced people trainning dogs and rush to get results simlair too that instead of taking their time and nailing everything perfect if it takes said trainer whose done it 10-15 years a few hours to fix a dog what takes your maybe double that as long as the end result ends up the same a trained or fixed dog i dont see a problem too many people after quick fixs what turn into big problems
Challenging yourself with different breeds is where I've learned the most.Anyone can teach basics to most herding breeds,helping the "neurotic" ones really brought clarity to some of the finer points of dog psychology. Your standards are you reputation,set them high. Great video&advice,enjoying your channel
Well said
Hey Larry. I really like your videos too. My favorite one is when you used the e-collar on you daughter with the skittles to show the collar is not cruel or mean. I love your attitude and techniques.
Bro you are underrated, 🙋🏻♂️ watching from UK
Yessss I second this also from the uk!!! ☺️
Loved this! I’m currently a dog trainer and in the process of building my own business right now. I agreed with everything you said. The “why” factor is so important! And I know many trainers that cap their knowledge at a certain point when they become a pro at something and they continue to do it and learn nothing more, it bothers me so much lol. I’m constantly learning new things. And I’ve trained many different breeds..and you’re damn right about that topic hahaha! I personally have 8 GSD’s and love the breed, but man when I get my hands on multiple other breeds, even small mixed breeds, boy does it get challenging! Love it though and I wouldn’t want any other passion in the world!!
Omg I love Michael Ellis’s dog training! 100% recommend!!!
Very true what you said. I'm not a dog trainer by any stretch but have had Rottweiler for 25 years and each one got better then the next because I took everything I learned and got better at it
You’re honesty is refreshing 👌🏼✊🏼
Excellent! As an aspiring dog trainer, I learned a lot from this
Thank you for sharing this.
IF I WANT TO BE DOG TRAINER I JUST NEED TO WATCH YOU 😊
Haz, I got another GSD a little over a year ago, my first one was a female, from a good working line and damn she shows it. But I digress. The new one is a white GSD, not from a stellar line. But, I found your channel around the time we got him. He's a solid pet, that's all he will really ever be most likely, but a good boy, you helped a lot with that. He's eager to learn and has a awesome temperament and acceptable obedience. Always improving tho.
I grew up working with big dogs (I say working as in trying to train my house dogs, mostly big, weimaraner, boxers, walkers, and various other hounds. We owned a lot of dogs that had jobs, they were meant to hunt, that's it.) And also horses. I broke horses and trained them to run barrels, poles, rope, etc. So naturally now I want to get out of a career that sucks ass, and build a business doing something I love and been doing a lot of my life and not really knowing it until now.
I use to be the type of "trainer" (for all intensive purposes) that couldn't explain why I was doing something, I just knew it worked so I kept with it. Now over the past year and change, I've learned so many new techniques and the reasoning behind it, and I've made a for real and definite decision to go after this and make something. The market is wide open in my state (u.s. South Carolina) and I have a plan already in place to dip my toes in while I'm still wrapped up in this career, (to hopefully build in the next couple of years and make a transition later) offering free basic obedience classes in my neighborhood for dogs that don't have it (literally every one I see).
I dont know if you will see a comment on a video this old, but if you do, I just wanted to let you know you inspired me, and I'm doing this for real. Hopefully one day I will be able to consider you a peer.
Great job, I will continue looking to your company for information whenever you put it out and I'm glad there is someone like you putting real information out here for curious minds like my own!
Thanks,
Rob
Just to clarify, your not my only source of information, just what I consider the best source. 👍🤣
EXACTLY, TO EVERYTHING U JUST SAID!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
That's me giving u a standing ovation
Absolute truth about training different dogs! I have trained high food drive, low prey drive, energetic, lazy, confident, and scared dogs.
This is exactly what I wanted to know. Actually almost... been curious about your background and also how you got into protection training which is a goal of mine. I have a long way to go, but think I'll always feel that way. I've read countless books and am with over 20 dogs a day doing training. The experience is important and getting new information is only helpful if its applied and experienced or can help someone else. I agree with everything you've said and look forward to developing as a trainer to just become more effective. Sport training and protection are what I have my eyes set on. I want to be like you.
Thanks for the advice, Helps a lot. Mainly finding anything i can to make sure i can train my next dog better then my past dogs. but started thinking on dog training from it. enjoy trying to figure out what makes dogs tick and all the different ways you can go at something.
This was really helpful, I take accountability in everything I do, & where i'm failing is getting my dogs aggression out when biting, or getting her to bite correctly. She has it in her genes she half shepard half malinois, I know alot of this from me having small experience. Thank you for this video.
I love this!!!! I trained several Jack Russell's and a Border Collie and a LOT of people think I'm a "DOG TRAINER".
I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa lets not get carried away here! lol!
BUT it is something that I've always been SUPER interested in!
I DO LOVE TO TRAIN, but I haven't trained many.
This was very interesting to hear your take on this!
Right now I have a Malinois puppy, and she is completely different story (obviously)! lol!
Oh, and I've also helped with training lots of breeds of hound breeds for various hunting.
Love your videos,do some voiceovers of your analysis on dog competition videos
Just by watching you can become a dog rehabilitator, good boy
Michael Ellis is really good teacher, I really think it’s important to keep a humble mind when doing something. I have trained different dogs but my favorite are GSDs. Just makes me feel like I’m doing something right. I trained an Akita and the owners thought I was robbing them. I had a sharpei that OMG, I couldn’t have him to sit to save his life but at the end, learned a lot. Talking about trainers’ own dogs, I’m guilty lol. My GSD doesn’t like to train, has very low energy, has no food drive, has no bite drive. It’s like if she wasn’t a dog. She learns fast but very difficult to get 5 mins session.
Good video. Spot on about what makes you a trainer....
The dogs you trained were easy, if you can’t get a small dog like that to sit then we need more learning...
@@KK-dn8yj you should know there are different types of trainers. I’m not a behavioral trainer. I’m a puppy trainer. I can do behavioral but I’m not good at it. I have also trained old dogs for leash walking, recall and basic stuff. Not all dogs are good for training. Some are smarter than other but it doesn’t mean they won’t learn. It just means it takes more time.
True words! I fully agree! Greetings from Austria!
Very nice outline. Lots of wisdom.
Great advice thanks for sharing.
I would really appreciate if you could make a video on inside games to teach important things like focus and also challenge my dog mentally. As I'm sure you experience, here in Minnesota when the high is below 10 degrees, its hard to do a lot of outside work.
That's so crazy, yeah, dogs are definitely tuned into what certifications you have, or don't. LoL
I cannot talk about dog trainers, for i am not one. But i am a boxing coach and a strength trainer. I became a boxing coach not bcs i wanted to be that, but bcs i was a european class boxer that got injured. Same with the strength training. I was injured (again), and all that rehab shit didn't work, so i trained myself up to a deadlift of 600, and the other lifts accordingly. I see fitness trainers all the time that know it all, but are weak like chinese tea. In my opinion, you've got to be strong as fuck in one point of your life to coach how to get there.
I kinda fancy becoming a dog trainer, I'm actually a carpenter and joiner right now but used lockdown to train my dog and a few naighbours.
Unfortunately we live in a world where you get abuse if your not 100% positive only🙄 people see a ecoller(mini educator) and loose there shit calling it a shock coller and your abusive.
What country ?
@@eunice8116 North East Scotland.
bruce Peterson
ok looked up the mini educator can we use this in the UK I want to use it on my dog,
I had to use the slip chain at 6 months as she ruptured my shoulder pulling my arm left to right lunging at all sorts the birds bees leaves any moveing flying object on the street, it just got stupid as we had to cross a major road,
she was getting more powerful,
So at 6 months I was like right old school teaching for her,
within half an hour she was tought to walk on the
(aka choke chain slip chain)
but I just can not deter her from lunging at rowdy dogs, up she goes on her back legs I prep the chain high but up she goes 😡
Also her recall is terrible so defo want to try this if possible.
Altough I think I'd get a lot of stigma about it,
The looks I get with the chain but hay 🙈
@@eunice8116 give David Eades or roddy kirk be pack leader a shout on facebook😁 I had roddy help me fit a mini educator et300 with my labrador for recall. Best tool I have EVER used. Check out jaxthelovinglab on youtube and Instagram (my dog, as seen in the pic beside this comment) youl see just how perfectly happy he is with an ecollar when used properly. And well trained👍
The 2 trainers I mentioned are among thee best in the country.
Same thing in Canada and it's okay. There's no shortage of customers. Do your thing, deliver results and educate your customers. You can be a carpenter and dog trainer at the same time.
Would love to get into dog training. Been training my GSD during lockdown. Want to start breeding good lines and would also like to start training as well
You taking interns ?
100% agree. Just like those weirdos that feed their dogs a vegetarian/vegan diet when dogs are carnivores...
Omnivores
Hate people like that so much they try to push their ignorant agenda on animals
"Any idiot can hang a shingle out and call themselves a dog trainer, and many of them do. You can even have a tv show and call yourself a dog trainer and some of them do." we all know who he was talking about 👀😂😂😂
I missed the part about how you got started. This would have been of interest to me at least ...
I was wondering this.... Great content
I would love to get in contact with you to discuss this more. I have always wanted to be a protection dog trainer but never knew where to start.
Only in Germany have a certification to be a dog trainer. For me you has to have a balance aproch and huge space for training facility, different aproch for every breed and ppl.
Buttttttttt you are driving while on the phone ._.
You are a master craftsman not an engineer. It's not a judgment: master craftsmen built cathedrals and caravels, engineers built that gizmo that I bought and threw in the trash the next day. The difference is that engineers learn their trade mostly from books (so it's very rule-based and the knowledge is transferrable) and master craftsmen learn by experience and direct knowledge transfer (what the heck does it mean "those vegetables are not done yet, boil them a bit more" and how exactly do you know a dog is fit for protection work other than "you just know")
My biggest thing is I lose my patience!
especially when they are doing so well till then they see someone or another high energy dog and it all goes out the window.
😡
Here's the thing, the positive force free lobby is getting strong. Most shelters in my area have adopted this regime. I forsee that it won't be long before they become the governing body and set the standards for dog training. Then you and balanced trainers and e collars and pinch collars etc will be banned here too followed by bite sports and other dog sports. I hope there is an political organization that you support that will curb this eventuality?
So to be a dog trainer, it requires 3 legs.
The more toes you have, the more areas you get to dip your toes into. At first I thought you meant 3 legs, as in you must be a male 🤣
You didnt cite any specific sources smh lol science shows drawbacks with punishment or aversive based training
Living beings are inherently built to receive consequence for poor decisions, therefore they are also built to comprehend and grow from a consequence so that a worse consequence, such as its demise, does not occur. THIS is science.
@@zareth-shahar And how many sources cited generally? 0. How many sources cited specifically that have to do with dog training? Also 0. So this "science" you talk about stinks of you pulling it out of your ass LOL
Love your channel. I finally got my baby gsd about a week and half ago and your channel is sooo educational. Do you do zoom classes?
i also think a lot of new trainer see before and after videos of more exprienced people trainning dogs and rush to get results simlair too that instead of taking their time and nailing everything perfect if it takes said trainer whose done it 10-15 years a few hours to fix a dog what takes your maybe double that as long as the end result ends up the same a trained or fixed dog i dont see a problem too many people after quick fixs what turn into big problems
and people shouldnt be afriad of going to better trainers and learning or even working unders better trainers
are chin straps required