Livonians, a tiny voice in the Baltics
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 เม.ย. 2009
- There are only some 200 of them left in Latvia -- a tiny group known as Livonians whose ancient culture and language are fast disappearing. Helped in the past by several European countries, today they hope more can be done to preserve their heritage.
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I still have a couple books in livonian, some of them more than 150 years old. Got most of the from my great grandmother, and she got them from her mother or grandmother.
Amazing!
I'd love to know more about the livonians. Especially because my family name came from there.
I'm from Brazil btw.
Upload them to the internet
@@umbertolivanifilho1278 You can watch the very recent lecture by Valts Ernstreits (he was in this reportage as well): th-cam.com/video/d6ig3YQ5Z64/w-d-xo.html
@@kirpitis appreciate that!
Do you speak any of it? Or do you know anyone that does? More videos pls 😁
I wish all you livonian people hope with saving your language.
I'm learning this beautiful language even if I'm Spanish, just because O don't want it to die. Please, I pray you all to help me in this task and learn Livonian just to keep alive this beautiful and special language!!
Oh, cómo lo estás estudiando? :o
I will gladly help with pleasure, as I´m also a cultural activist and love European languages, even non Indo-Europeans like this one but the problem is we hardly get teaching material in these endangered languages and there´s also the risk that I may find it too difficult (Estonian, for instance, has three types of 'r' which are quite a challenge to me, I think I can pronounce all the other phonemes without much difficulty but this one has overwhelmed me, smile).
Luischocolatier Wow i Didnt know that spanish people try learning this language Hail Livonia!!!😃😃😃
I feel sorry for Livonian brothers :( love from Hungary
Zoltan Csikos
i feel the same way.
Love from Estonia
Love from Finland brothers.
All uralic people should be independent ;(
love from estonia aswell
Napoli 88 Hools Google Livonia and the Livonians...
So sad, only 200 people, my village has more people. Cultural identity is important, no language or culture should die or be repressed.
So many have disappeared already, and we are unfathomably poorer for it.
It did die (wa wa) but it was revived and now has 1 native speaker and 200 non-native speaker at various levels of proficency
If only I still lived in the country, I'd definitely be taking those courses. I've tried to find online resources just like I would for a regular language, but to no avail. Does anyone know of anything?
@LolPomps Hungarian, Livonian, Finnish, Estonian and so on are all Finno-Ugric languages.
Wish I could hear the language
So long so far brother! Now you can hear the language if you go to some of the Livonian towns in Latvia and on TH-cam. Also your comment is a month older than my age😊.
Vana-Liivimaa...
Ni kīlmiz, ni kīlmiz,
Ni jõvīst kīlmiz
Ni kīlmiz mer vizzô puojustõ sõņi
Ni kīlmiz mer vizzõ puojustõ sõņi.
livonians don't let your language die
@Homo sapiens sapiens :( i wish the older generation could teach the younger generation it :((
@fedelede2 You are wrong. Then, if you look in the Alps, in some other language "isles"...
Then livonian was (the last native speakers are long dead, as in any European area, these are already bilingual) quite related to the other baltic-finnic languages, not to specially unrelated. A bit like to claim that original German Alsatians spoke no German but "alemannic dialect". I love that area (Baltic) anyway.
@laurienator who were livonians and who are estonians now??Livonian languege are more closer to estonian languge than baltic langueges Our ancestors didnt call estonians in this name, but used diferent minings .Word estonian came from word" aisti" and this word gave to them roman empires writer.sorry for my english.
Livonia!!! #NevaDie
@CountNadir Livonians word comes from word LīVI.They belong to finougric tribes and in estonian languege word" leev" means "sand".LIVS lived near the seaside and thats reason why they are caling for "sandpeople".Couronians a,prussians,samogitians,latgalians and another baltic tribes come frome INDIA-PAKISTAN region.Latvian and lithuanian languege words are very close to sanskrit.
Thanks for all this information. That's probably the meaning of my surname.
Hope livonians manage to spread their culture.
Balts never come from Pakistan 😂😂😂, they were just diferent from finnic livonians in language, balts are closest germanic relatives, how you say that they come from Pakistan ?you not even have a historical source so shut up !
@@Andrei-ev7du Todey those people who are living in Pakistan are diferent, but many are coming from that region in these days. You are big idiot! Do you know where is Mountain Jānis?
@@Andrei-ev7du germans always were our enemies! They are close to jews and russians love germans more than other neighbours. Iran - Afganistan - Pakistan there are living people who are closer to our blood than germans. Prussians and germans were not the same people.
@wolsky25 actually many of them do. Especially central Iranic and Dardic peoples.
It is 'liiv' in Estonian and I don't think it is scientifically proved that the name Livonia comes from that. Livonians never and nobody ever has called them sandpeople, they call themselves either raandalist *coast folk' or just kalaamiied 'fishermen' (sry I can't write it right way for technical reasons). Like Estonians called themselves just maarahvas 'land folk'.
Kalaamiied, Are you livonian or finnish :)
Voltaire's History of Charles xii brought me here; specifically, Livonian General Patkul's brief, sad history.
@LolPomps But those languages don't have any shared words. For an example in Finnish veri means blood and in Hungary it is ver.
in finnish perse means ass, hungarian it means of course
@fedelede2 In the french and italian states there are entire peoples in the same situation, even in small numbers. livionians are 1 in a million of cases, and many at least know the term -livonian-. There is much ignorance
Livonian is related to Hungarian as much as English is to Persian.
responding to a 7 years old comment but, why do you think that? They are both under the finno-ugric language branch.
@Broccoli 24
Well hungary and nordic curonia is 1100 km apart and these two languages had thousands of years in separation and evolution witch means on the basic scale these languages are completely different, of course there are words that are pronounced or even spelled very similarly. However english was created by a mixture of dialects and languages (mostly Celtic,Germanic and latin th-cam.com/video/H3r9bOkYW9s/w-d-xo.html) which means that there is an emmence amount of words from languages around the world. to prove my point here is a list of words in english with persian origin. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Persian_origin)
I am not a linguist just a local who is interested in the subject so you shouldn't take my comment seriously
more like livonian is as close to hungarian as much as english to russian
cleandoods! So much cringe-inducing bullshit, LoL
LolPomps Such a ridiculous comment. It’s not Russian and Ukrainian, but they’ve been distant for a while. It’s a fact that Livonian and Hungarian are Finno-Ugric.
As a hungarian (a distant relative to livonians) I very much hope that livonian language will survive and live on!
Its a dead language man
I clearly see you cannot follow the theme. Bavarian is not a language. I was talking of Cimbri but you are not even misunderstanding the 1st problem (Cimbro is not Bavarian)
@fedelede2 You just ignore the whole thing
@paulmattt Too bad. People who can actually speak that language is possible to count with both hand fingers.
@wolsky25 I agree, but your post is kind of offtopic.
@Karpaneen And that's about it, there aren't too many obvious similarities. For linguists, of course, there are many more. My point is that people often think Hungarian (from the Ugric branch) and Finnic (Estonian, Livonian, Finnish, Mari, etc) languages are very similar when in fact they aren't more than English is to Persian.
And your claim that Persian and English don't have similar words is entirely wrong. Examples: Mother-Mādar, Father-Padar, Daughter-Dokhtar, Brother-Barādar,Name-Nām,etc
@fedelede2 As if I didn't know.
The government should protect the languages and conserve them with linguistical institutions like oficial academies
2 of june 2013 the last native speaker died making the language extinct...
We should rebaptise Croix-Neyrat district and Vergnes district, both of Clermont-Fd in Auvergne (Region of French Ålanders) naming them Livonia and Varangia.
Ok, I give you a little little help,
ancient danish dialects- Cimbri- in Estern Cisalpine France ("Northern Italy"), Livonians is not so specially different in the area and is 1 on 1000000 endangered (moreover it is already dead for years, indeed).
With Cimbri, when you learn about them, you can come up with the faked Bavarin theory...(in favour of Rome elimintaing non-southern roots), but unfortunately the Odin-Freja-troll symbology, archaeology, folklore, the racial anthropometry at
??? THERE ARE "MILLIONS" OF PEOPLES AND LANGUAGES LIKE THIS ALL AROUND EUROPE. LOOK AT "NORTHERN ITALY" (NORTHERN ITALY IS TUSCANY), FRANCE, ETC.
So sad that language was long gone
Eu and Finland should really help on this.. I mean we use huge sums to fund an useless army and all this stupid shit, why not better use the money and help perserve a cousin language..
hope they do not distinct like the livonian german accient or the kurland accient..
All the uralic languages Never die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where are you from, last Livonian native speaker is dead ;(
@@unitedstatesofeu7859 realy?
@Karpaneen and English and Persian are both Indo-European languages.
@tetris136 all indo-european languages are related and they originated in the black sea region
Livonian is not an Indo-European language, though.
"related", even "closely related" to italian???? until the Green Line/Gothic Line?? you kidding?
Then, Livonian was (no more real native speakers, as in other areas, it is common) not basque in the iberic peninsula, not to specially unrelated
@wolsky25 Indo-Iranic peoples. Dardic, Indo-Aryan, Iranic, Nuristani= Indo-Iranics
@fedelede2 Check better...
odds with modern Bavarians, is there...Livonian what?
that area is even too much identitarian in respect of the rest of Europe.
Rip livonian, it died
Help from the Eu? Keep dreaming they don’t help native Europeans, you have to be a African or Musi to get help from them
livonians are not native europeans they are originaly asian like every finno ugric language
@Владелец завода mostly true but they do have distant asian ancestry from the urals. They eventually mixed with Scandinavians and Balts.
@@valt8025 They came from Urals, but it doesn't mean they are asian. Sure, they could have some asian in their blood as bitefun2 said. But finno-ugric language isn't part of asian languages, they are on their own. ... and who really are native europeans? Their were already other people and languages before indo-european ones, like one who survived - Basque. Although I don't know if Finno-Ugric people pushed out other ones, like indo-europeans did. ... and and even those first people in europe weren't us, first ones were neanderthals. Sure, not in Baltics and other parts, but still, they were the first europeans.
@@enemy1191 FInno ugrics were originaly asians but they got geneticaly assimilated, finns still have about 10% asian dna left
I'm too tired : bavariAn, etc..eastern..
Last livonian speaker died last month. Goodbye!
native-speaker, there are still around 300 people who have learned this language as their second or third language....
You are not informed and nothing knowing dumbass.
Livonian occupiers huh? Well good thing Baltic brothers Latvians won! Ha greetings from Ltihuania.
1MuchButteR1 Probably a dumb supremacist.
1MuchButteR1 Livonia is estonia+latvia together
@@randomstalker3308Actually only Southern Estonia was part of Livonia. Northern Estonia was Estland.