You forgot E + W + E combo, that is by far the best combo if you are ganking other lane or trying to pick someone, its pretty much impossible to dodge the E, and even if they flash out you can E after, I see Bo using that all the time in his VoDs playing as Sylas jungler when ganking
I'm starting to see some success with Sylas now! Everything says max W first, always take dorans ring etc, and my lane phase was so abysmal I got dumpstered for the rest of every game. I'm winning lane or going even more than half the time with Q max and shield and resolve tree. Thanks for the guide Shok.
Great guide! I would note a few things that I've learned from playing Sylas and utilizing him as my main. In low ELO I would always recommend the following: Conqueror, Ignite, Q max and dark seal. Why? Because you can use these to basically 1v1 any champion in lane. Just max Q, go for poke with it, then once they're down to 50-70% HP wait for lvl 6, take their ulti and all in on them. Winning lane, and getting 1-2 solo kills early w/ dark seal will make it so you can run the tempo of the game, and roam.
I already knew most of this cause Sylas is one of my mains, but this guide was really nice with good explanations (also !!thanks for mentioning the pro play Q E W max, i was wondering why they did that). So im looking forward to more guides from you :)
great vid, one improvement i think for the ultimate tier list would to just use the champion picture instead of the ult picture, feel like it would be easier to follow along
Thank you for those highly educational vids. Since I found ur channel I rly improved on key mechanics because u just explain it so good. Keep up the good work.
Best lol creator. Before your guides reaching 6 cs/min was my best match, now I reach in avarage 9cs/min and added 4 champs in my champ pool. Keep doing these!
Been watching you for a while so from my pov it doesnt really matter anymore, but it's great that you have an intro with your achievements in the beginning, when i watch some other league youtubers they dont and i have to google their op gg. keep it up!
I personally love playing him AP Burst Assassin Style with Electro and ludens. The damage is unreal. I also like to trap with that build by being super passive the first few levels, which mostly lets aggressive opponents misposition out of impatience. Then I suddenly hard engage with electro. Got so many kills that way.
I always max W first then E and Q last, I noticed during worlds that most sylas were maxing Q first against range match up but I never tried it because max W gives you more sustain and allows you to be a bit more aggressive. I might give Q max first a try and see how it feels!
i’ve been playing some sylas games and i’m really enjoying playing it. It is really satisfying land skillshot on enemy. I never tried dorian shield but i will.
I usually max w first even tho vs ranged because in soloq i find myself in random skirmishes everywhere and the value for w heal so good for skirmishes , also allows you to 1v2 when getting doved. But maybe those are true for me because i miss so much 2nd q hit. Love your videos btw keep it up.
@@ShokLeague I think the rank 1 Sylas does that max order (3 points in Q) into lanes where he needs the ability to influence the wave like LB or mages.
Hey shok, what do you think about the new sylas builds now? I'm not sure when to go fs or conq. Is Roa into zhonyas/shadowflame into rabadons a good build path?
yeah imo roa > zhonya/banshee/shadowflame > zhonya/banshee/shadowflame > rabadons/void > rabadons/void something like that is good 99% of the time, I think just go conq most of the time it's really hard to FS atm cause there is too much range and you really need tenacity from conq tree as well
Resolve secondary is really nice, but into matchups you're expecting to win, I sometimes like perfect timing + cosmic insight, might not be great though
Never played him, but wanted to main him for a while now... But I'm a jungle main. Would he be viable there or in season 13 at least, according to you?
Hmm honestly not sure, he hasn't been playable in jungle for a while. I think if you wanted something similar in the jungle Ekko/Diana could be good options
Is sylas worth to play in low elo? As games take so long i think its not the best one in those cases but i really like the champ anyway so idk if i should added him to my pool
Hey! Thanks for the video, I love these in depth guides. Listening to the reasoning behind the choices is very valuable. Would you ever consider spirit visage on Sylas as an MR item against comps that don't have high impact "first" skills you want to avoid but still make you wish you had MR? For example if you're vs a fed Kata + ap supp/jungle.
@@tvm2209 Because that's what ppl max in pro play, many less fights in comp games. Imo soloq W max is better but both are really good. Also E max can be better vs more ranged champs
Shock my friend told me to go triumph on sylas he told also thats PM is trash on sylas what are u thought about this (i think my friend is a bit stupid)
I appreciate these guys but imo it's a waste of time to put too much time into the runes and items parts. Those things change way too quickly while other, more general concepts of the champion, stay consistent over months and years.
Honestly just depends on the champ, some champs (especially mages) have pretty much had the same build for multiple years but you're right stuff like Yone/Akali change up pretty often
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You forgot E + W + E combo, that is by far the best combo if you are ganking other lane or trying to pick someone, its pretty much impossible to dodge the E, and even if they flash out you can E after, I see Bo using that all the time in his VoDs playing as Sylas jungler when ganking
I'm starting to see some success with Sylas now! Everything says max W first, always take dorans ring etc, and my lane phase was so abysmal I got dumpstered for the rest of every game. I'm winning lane or going even more than half the time with Q max and shield and resolve tree. Thanks for the guide Shok.
Great guide! I would note a few things that I've learned from playing Sylas and utilizing him as my main. In low ELO I would always recommend the following: Conqueror, Ignite, Q max and dark seal. Why? Because you can use these to basically 1v1 any champion in lane. Just max Q, go for poke with it, then once they're down to 50-70% HP wait for lvl 6, take their ulti and all in on them. Winning lane, and getting 1-2 solo kills early w/ dark seal will make it so you can run the tempo of the game, and roam.
I already knew most of this cause Sylas is one of my mains, but this guide was really nice with good explanations (also !!thanks for mentioning the pro play Q E W max, i was wondering why they did that). So im looking forward to more guides from you :)
Your guides are amazing, and you keep adding champs to my champion pool, love ur work
Dude i love you,just came home from holidays and wanted to restart playing Sylas, perfect timing
Notification squad! I enjoy playing Sylas already and it's great to get some challenger-level knowledge to add to my own!
great vid, one improvement i think for the ultimate tier list would to just use the champion picture instead of the ult picture, feel like it would be easier to follow along
i know you just found the picture online but still, great vid otherwise though!
Thank you for those highly educational vids. Since I found ur channel I rly improved on key mechanics because u just explain it so good.
Keep up the good work.
You are the goat for content creators that actually teach
I feel like there is no reason not to buy zhonyas every game. The item literally goes hand in hand with sylas.
I won't use it so it's useless to me
Nice! I remember asking for this guide couple months ago and here we are, thank you o/
Best lol creator. Before your guides reaching 6 cs/min was my best match, now I reach in avarage 9cs/min and added 4 champs in my champ pool. Keep doing these!
Been watching you for a while so from my pov it doesnt really matter anymore, but it's great that you have an intro with your achievements in the beginning, when i watch some other league youtubers they dont and i have to google their op gg. keep it up!
Thank you very much for this guide , was really helpful. Would love to see a irelia guide if u ever get the chance
I personally love playing him AP Burst Assassin Style with Electro and ludens. The damage is unreal. I also like to trap with that build by being super passive the first few levels, which mostly lets aggressive opponents misposition out of impatience. Then I suddenly hard engage with electro. Got so many kills that way.
Wow, I'm playing a lot of Sylas actually in soloq and the results are nuts, currently sitting at D3
I always max W first then E and Q last, I noticed during worlds that most sylas were maxing Q first against range match up but I never tried it because max W gives you more sustain and allows you to be a bit more aggressive. I might give Q max first a try and see how it feels!
How is it?
It makes laning easier, more wave clear and you can actually survive some diffuclt matchups. I still max W first bc i am so used to it tho
i’ve been playing some sylas games and i’m really enjoying playing it.
It is really satisfying land skillshot on enemy.
I never tried dorian shield but i will.
I usually max w first even tho vs ranged because in soloq i find myself in random skirmishes everywhere and the value for w heal so good for skirmishes , also allows you to 1v2 when getting doved. But maybe those are true for me because i miss so much 2nd q hit.
Love your videos btw keep it up.
I think you can still consider 3 points Q and then W max if you feel like that happens a lot, imo Q max feels so good I can't live without it
@@ShokLeague I think the rank 1 Sylas does that max order (3 points in Q) into lanes where he needs the ability to influence the wave like LB or mages.
Hey shok, what do you think about the new sylas builds now? I'm not sure when to go fs or conq. Is Roa into zhonyas/shadowflame into rabadons a good build path?
yeah imo roa > zhonya/banshee/shadowflame > zhonya/banshee/shadowflame > rabadons/void > rabadons/void something like that is good 99% of the time, I think just go conq most of the time it's really hard to FS atm cause there is too much range and you really need tenacity from conq tree as well
Thoughts on taking electrocute instead of first strike?
Can do, gives you a lot more skirmishing power early + the tree is very good for snowballing
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Hey shok! What do you think about maxing q on sylas after the nerf? Is it still good or should i go for something different?
Still good imo
@@ShokLeague thank you!
your vids just answer every question i have goat
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
Thanks for your guide ive recently picked up Sylas and its hard figuring out how to play him and what his win conditions are
Great guide! I’m a sylas one trick and I still learned a lot, can’t wait to climb with the new knowledge!
thats cap this is way more of a general overview even if its great as such
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Did an amazing job explaining sylas!!
what about electrocute on sylas? vs poke mages that extra damage takes them to
Yea this guide is a bit out of date, the 1 shot sylas build with elec is pretty good rn
Do you think Q max first will still be the best after cooldown nerf next Patch? 12.17 -> on every Level 1 more second
I think so since it makes his hard matchups so much easier, but you might see W max more often than you see it now
Hey really good video. Thank you.
What about buy Riftmaker or Luden's Tempest
Don't think either are very good
@@ShokLeague Thank You for Responding.
If the use of Everfrost is little and not always successful is it still better than them?
Resolve secondary is really nice, but into matchups you're expecting to win, I sometimes like perfect timing + cosmic insight, might not be great though
Yeah I like it, boots cosmic good too
@shok long time coming (i asked for this on insta and still missed the upload by a day 💀💀)
The guide I needed !!!!! Thank you so much shok
Never played him, but wanted to main him for a while now... But I'm a jungle main. Would he be viable there or in season 13 at least, according to you?
Hmm honestly not sure, he hasn't been playable in jungle for a while. I think if you wanted something similar in the jungle Ekko/Diana could be good options
Is gathering storm transcendence not good? Especially with the conquerer runes???
What do you think about night harvester first item as it gives more stats even though it doesnt give you the cc
Not as good imo if you want stats just go for liandry
Thoughts on Rod of Ages now?
Still solid
This is amazing! Ty so much !
the video i didn't think i needed!
Is sylas worth to play in low elo? As games take so long i think its not the best one in those cases but i really like the champ anyway so idk if i should added him to my pool
Yeah I think so, he snowballs super hard and he's still pretty good late game
What about AD (AS + tank) Sylas or as jungler? :)
Doesn't seem good to me, Sylas JG is ok but you need to go for lots of ganks since your clear is awful
Hey! Thanks for the video, I love these in depth guides. Listening to the reasoning behind the choices is very valuable. Would you ever consider spirit visage on Sylas as an MR item against comps that don't have high impact "first" skills you want to avoid but still make you wish you had MR? For example if you're vs a fed Kata + ap supp/jungle.
Yeah I think you could do that as like a 5th or 6th item
Can you make a video for Irelia ?
I'm not good enough at Irelia to make a guide, but I might do some vod reviews
hey shok would you still q max now ?
Do you ever go ludens with first strike page?
Not a fan of ludens on Sylas but you could do it if you want just full burst
Could you plase do a Full Indepth for Zed?
Love this channellllll
Very well done good job thank you very novelu explained
Hey Shok! What's the rule for maxing the abilities now, after the changes? :)
Pretty much the same, Q > W > E for more sustained damage, Q > E > W for more burst
@@ShokLeague Why is every higher elo in KR and CN max W>E>Q ?
@@tvm2209 Because that's what ppl max in pro play, many less fights in comp games. Imo soloq W max is better but both are really good. Also E max can be better vs more ranged champs
@@ShokLeague not sure I understand the last comment, you meant q max is better for soloq?
Ayo Shok, could you do one for Vladimir?
honestly watching elite500s guide is probably the best vlad guide ur gonna get from anyone
@@isai41305 I mean if you put it like that, Armoom’s Sylas guide is pretty good as well, just trying to see different approaches to the champ.
I probably will do one eventually, but I second elite500s guide
@@rosegold608 nah armoon is probably the clickbatiest least knowledgeable well known Sylas.
I just realised how similar this is to sion and I'm a sion 1 trick
hello thanks for ur guide. is this guide still relevant to this day ?
Meta sylas build is first strike with Q E W max but everything else should be good
Would you say to first strike qew into melee matchups too? Or would conquer max w be better?@@ShokLeague
do Galio next! I LOVE GALIO
New Mid Lane tier list video?
Will probably do one for 12.17 since there are a lot of big changes
@@ShokLeague Do you know when that patch is coming? like is it any time soon?
Shock my friend told me to go triumph on sylas he told also thats PM is trash on sylas what are u thought about this (i think my friend is a bit stupid)
Kinda not good imo, you run out of mana in long fights without PoM
Good guide. Q max actually op xd
Meh nobody builds cosmic on sylas anymore. Weird that you would recommend it when it's a really bad item for him atm.
Just go Zhonya and Banshee if you don't want cosmic, but it's still a good item if you don't need those.
@@ShokLeague I was dubious because there's this Chinese otp who goes rabadon's 3rd, morello and banshee usually
@@ShokLeague but old cosmic drive was insane
Bayzed nice content
Can Sylas leap to enemy wards?
No sir
Sylas 1v1 against Armoon?
Why don't you speak about going second wind in hard and dark seal first item in free matchups?
I mention second wind vs poke lanes at 1:32 and also mention it many times during the laning section. Dark seal first item sucks.
@@ShokLeague I’ve had some success with dark seal 3 health pots, you lost a bit of mana sustain but the snowball potential is always nice I think
Thank you🙏🙏
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Day 2 of asking for a Vladimir guide :D
FINALLY!!!!
Is this guide still viable today?
Do galio
not even sylas main
Sorry to hear that bro
Bot & jungle gap
What do you think about Manamune Sylas?
Not really sure honestly, just seems kinda inferior
I appreciate these guys but imo it's a waste of time to put too much time into the runes and items parts. Those things change way too quickly while other, more general concepts of the champion, stay consistent over months and years.
Honestly just depends on the champ, some champs (especially mages) have pretty much had the same build for multiple years but you're right stuff like Yone/Akali change up pretty often