@@UP-xb8yu Siam only had Kelantan and Patani due to British help in 1826. Kelantan had been ruled by Patani, and in turn Patani had been ruled by Kelantan also, it goes both ways. Got nothing to do with Siam, sorry. The claim is nothing about British. And then Siam lost Malay Northern States also due to British intervention in less than one hundred years. This culture is older than Siam short rule of Malay states.
@@EpicEightSevenNine Don’t lie to the world. This dance belongs to Phattalung Royal city which is now in Thailand and it’s before Malaysia became a country yet. Look at your country now, who can dance and sing like this…open your eyes, those who can sing and dance Nohra is Orang Siam not the local Malaysian yet.
this is thai sure! and this dance it not from kelantan but have this 'cause this place have thai so a lot that it have manorah 'cause have thai people and northern of malay is colonial of thailand
+Phanganist Koh Phangan well this is a credit to your culture and a pleasure for me to learn of. i truly mean that and i love your sudden hand movements from the natural flow within the dance you execute it flawlessly thankyou a very good informative video both visually and historically
+and why not Thank you for your admiration, I'm glad you like it and i'm glad that i can share this to people. You made me think that i'm lucky,because i have had good opportunities to learn lots about cultures. I hope i can show you more
@@adrianaryff Maybe Ligor the last remained Malay Buddhist Kingdom aka Negara Sri Dharmaraja or Nakhon Si Thammarat. I am told actually the Malay Kingdoms sent Golden Flowers to Ligor not to Bangkok since Ligor is Ayutthaya and later Sukhotai vassal kingdom.
@@mimiekoarashi8443 ligor not malay people. i'm Nakhon Si Thammarat people. We are not malay Just because we have Malay stone inscriptions. Because we don't have the inscription that is read in only Malay but But ligor still have the stone inscription Written in Javanese, Tamil ,Sanskrit ,Mon and Thai. Even the language that we currently use is not a Malay language. We speak Dambro language Which has more than 90% Thai words. can say that it is the Dambro language has become Thai. With the word "Dambro" derived from "tam po" which comes from the Tambralinga kingdom and word ligor form Portuguese. Which is derived from the word linga or lingam
tong angcup learn history dude, U might be Tai-Kadai or Siamese and not Malay people, but the Southern Thailand is part of the Malay Peninsular State. These Malay states fall under Siamese Kingdom only in 19th Century. Nakhon Si Thammarat is Negara Sri Dharmaja. Phuket is Bukit, Krabi is Ghairabi, Trang is Terang, Satun is Setul, etc. After all these states fall under Siam, the King brought many Siamese and Tai people to dominate these states. But u can’t change the history, even there is a place in Ranong named Kor Kod Kra which is the narrowest part of Malayu Cape, which we call that Melayu Segenting Kra.
Manora is only popular among ethnic Siamese community in Malaysia, but Kelantan Malays don't do Manora, they have Main Puteri, Dikir Barat and Mak Yong which is very different from Manora. And in Kedah they have Mek Mulung.
They are Melayu Siam who can keep their cultures until today. It doesn’t matter that who they are, but now they are Thai same as another Thai around the country.
@@chaiyapruekmungnimitr9509Thailand most the country copy of culture in southeast asia. Copying north malay culture,copying khmer culture,copying Isan burmese culture. wkwkkwkwkw
Sorry I know Kalantan in the pass just a part of Thailand. And Malay Menora look not original. In Thailand Manora have story and more detail. The method how to dance and how to sing with music. But Malaysian Menora just learning from Siam and look like not connect with Siam for long time. The performance look like no purpose and the music not clear. I scare Menora I Malay will lost soon. Your Menora should come to learn from Siam agian.
ISAN MUSIC Thai traditional music lol..can u tell me where the exact part menora was from?? Dont u know that southern thai until isthmus of kra was a malay peninsular before sukothai and ayutthaya kingdoms colonize it??
@@gamergenix5429 In Manora song lyrics use Siem language. Your Menora in Malay also use Siem language. Why I will believe you that Manora come from Malaysia. Can you tell me why all Manora use Thai language?
ISAN MUSIC Thai traditional music bcs malay rn dont even do menora anymore bcs of islam..it also got something to do with politics..thats why it is more dominant with siam ppl but still menora is malay-buddha culture and dont u know that malay peninsula is until istmus of kra before sukhothai and ayutthaya kingdoms conquered us?
@@mrnazlan555 halloo....kelantan and southern thai is in a one country for a hundreds years....no wonder if malay kelantan said manora is a part of theirs culture you,did you think only southern thai only get influence from hindu buddhist?....Then they are same race...i dont care about where is this culture come from.....but what is upsetting me if you said (manora dance) is malay thai culture dance and not the malay kelantan dance 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄use your brain lah...
malay shia! don't claim it this dance is theravada buddhist this dance use topic about buddhist jataka and it from bhartanatyam too if you will claim 'cause use pattani kindom (since1467 and sukhothai since 1239) refer that wrong and it is mahayana buddhist
You study history malay langkasuka1/2sm, kedah tua788sm, kelathana 200sm-4m...selatan Thailand is malay peninsula not Thai.. Thai(tai kadai from China)
Stop to claim Malay, the world know this is a Southern Thai heritage dance. It’s a hindu-buddhism dance since the Ligor Kingdom. You can see this dance in Kelantan, Malaysia because once it has been a colonial of Siam yet 🙄
@ice'suphasin Kong'sri I know it’s a co-culture in the past and yes…it’s a heritage of Melayu. But I disagree to you that it’s from Langkasuka Kingdom because this show was represented in Hindu-Buddhism religious which is in the royal court of the ancient Pattalung city. The southern Melayu Siam can preserve this dance until today both in Thailand and the Orang Siam in Malaysia.
@@milk_solo577 Nah manorah or menora means beautiful in old Malay language. You can't claim it because it's still Malay and malays are more older than Thais.
@@milk_solo577 Malay and Thai culture is actually similar I think because we used to live together with Thais and this dance is actually a dance from northern and east coast of Malaysia and it's still practised nowadays. Just like Turks and Mongols had a same culture but not with a same language family.
this is thai sure! and this dance from kelantan i know thos place have thai so a lot that it have manorah 'cause have thai people and northern of malay is colonial of thailand
miss grand thailand 2020 MGT46, first time know that. its amazing and beautifyl!!
This dance is also popular in Kelantan, Northern Malaysia
Kelantan has been Siam colonial yet. And Kelantan was a part of Petani Kingdom, they are Petani Malay not Malaysia Malay.
@@UP-xb8yu Siam only had Kelantan and Patani due to British help in 1826. Kelantan had been ruled by Patani, and in turn Patani had been ruled by Kelantan also, it goes both ways. Got nothing to do with Siam, sorry. The claim is nothing about British. And then Siam lost Malay Northern States also due to British intervention in less than one hundred years. This culture is older than Siam short rule of Malay states.
@@EpicEightSevenNine Don’t lie to the world. This dance belongs to Phattalung Royal city which is now in Thailand and it’s before Malaysia became a country yet. Look at your country now, who can dance and sing like this…open your eyes, those who can sing and dance Nohra is Orang Siam not the local Malaysian yet.
Hahaha,banned by islamic political party already. They say this dance is haram, what a joke.
@@UP-xb8yuMenorah is a Malay culture before Islam.n this culture is no longer used because it has elements of magics
this is thai sure! and this dance it not from kelantan but have this 'cause this place have thai so a lot that it have manorah 'cause have thai people
and northern of malay is colonial of thailand
i love your country i love your culture and the thai dance is simly outstanding
+and why not
We have been lucky to make this video with KaewKlao Kaewbunjong. A super talented artist that lived on Koh Phangan at that period.
+Phanganist Koh Phangan well this is a credit to your culture and a pleasure for me to learn of. i truly mean that and i love your sudden hand movements from the natural flow within the dance you execute it flawlessly thankyou a very good informative video both visually and historically
+and why not Thank you for your admiration, I'm glad you like it and i'm glad that i can share this to people. You made me think that i'm lucky,because i have had good opportunities to learn lots about cultures. I hope i can show you more
มาเลมีเรื่อง พระสุถน มโนราไหม สยามหรือเสียม รุ่งเรื่องมาก่อนอังกอร์วัด เมืองศรีเทพ คุณดูประวัติศาสตร์ด้วย
2:59 the movement is difficult for the average person but it improves physical health.
👍 very good
can you upload some of Pattani traditional dance?
Manorah is Pattani Traditional Dance right? Origins are from Menara (Narathiwat) District of the Langkasuka Kingdom
@@adrianaryff Maybe Ligor the last remained Malay Buddhist Kingdom aka Negara Sri Dharmaraja or Nakhon Si Thammarat. I am told actually the Malay Kingdoms sent Golden Flowers to Ligor not to Bangkok since Ligor is Ayutthaya and later Sukhotai vassal kingdom.
Ligor is malay people.. there is a journal trgnu change its name to ligor before centuries.. so the malay state up to ligor..
@@mimiekoarashi8443 ligor not malay people. i'm Nakhon Si Thammarat people. We are not malay Just because we have Malay stone inscriptions. Because we don't have the inscription that is read in only Malay but But ligor still have the stone inscription Written in Javanese, Tamil ,Sanskrit ,Mon and Thai. Even the language that we currently use is not a Malay language.
We speak Dambro language Which has more than 90% Thai words. can say that it is the Dambro language has become Thai. With the word "Dambro" derived from "tam po" which comes from the Tambralinga kingdom and word ligor form Portuguese. Which is derived from the word linga or lingam
tong angcup learn history dude, U might be Tai-Kadai or Siamese and not Malay people, but the Southern Thailand is part of the Malay Peninsular State. These Malay states fall under Siamese Kingdom only in 19th Century. Nakhon Si Thammarat is Negara Sri Dharmaja. Phuket is Bukit, Krabi is Ghairabi, Trang is Terang, Satun is Setul, etc. After all these states fall under Siam, the King brought many Siamese and Tai people to dominate these states. But u can’t change the history, even there is a place in Ranong named Kor Kod Kra which is the narrowest part of Malayu Cape, which we call that Melayu Segenting Kra.
Manora is only popular among ethnic Siamese community in Malaysia, but Kelantan Malays don't do Manora, they have Main Puteri, Dikir Barat and Mak Yong which is very different from Manora. And in Kedah they have Mek Mulung.
Name this song
kaew klaw why do they posses menorah dance?
Nakhon Si Thammarat/Nagara Sri Dharmaraja
Manorah/Menora
Segenting Kra is Ancient of Malay
They are Melayu Siam who can keep their cultures until today. It doesn’t matter that who they are, but now they are Thai same as another Thai around the country.
555 นครศรีธรรมราช เป็นคำของ อินเดีย ไม่ใช่ มุสลิม ศรีธรรมราชา แปลว่า เมืองเด่นสง่าของพระราชาผู้มีธรรม มาเลศึกษาหน่อยน่ะครับ 555
@@chaiyapruekmungnimitr9509Thailand most the country copy of culture in southeast asia. Copying north malay culture,copying khmer culture,copying Isan burmese culture. wkwkkwkwkw
this is a malay dance culture from northern, east coast and up to southern..
this is thai dance and kelantan is colonial of thai befor
Sorry I know Kalantan in the pass just a part of Thailand. And Malay Menora look not original. In Thailand Manora have story and more detail. The method how to dance and how to sing with music. But Malaysian Menora just learning from Siam and look like not connect with Siam for long time. The performance look like no purpose and the music not clear. I scare Menora I Malay will lost soon. Your Menora should come to learn from Siam agian.
ISAN MUSIC Thai traditional music lol..can u tell me where the exact part menora was from?? Dont u know that southern thai until isthmus of kra was a malay peninsular before sukothai and ayutthaya kingdoms colonize it??
@@gamergenix5429 In Manora song lyrics use Siem language. Your Menora in Malay also use Siem language. Why I will believe you that Manora come from Malaysia. Can you tell me why all Manora use Thai language?
ISAN MUSIC Thai traditional music bcs malay rn dont even do menora anymore bcs of islam..it also got something to do with politics..thats why it is more dominant with siam ppl but still menora is malay-buddha culture and dont u know that malay peninsula is until istmus of kra before sukhothai and ayutthaya kingdoms conquered us?
kra isthmus malay culture
Malay?? -;-
@@potum_8934 yes menorah dance is a malay culture in southern thai
Awang Hitam northern Malay and most part of southern Thailand.
Yup malay but not malaysian
@@mrnazlan555 halloo....kelantan and southern thai is in a one country for a hundreds years....no wonder if malay kelantan said manora is a part of theirs culture you,did you think only southern thai only get influence from hindu buddhist?....Then they are same race...i dont care about where is this culture come from.....but what is upsetting me if you said (manora dance) is malay thai culture dance and not the malay kelantan dance 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄use your brain lah...
มาเลเซีย ก็เหมือน เขมร นั่นละ จ้องจะเคลม 😂😂😂😂
แต่ยังดีกว่าเขมรตรงที่ ภาคใต้เราวัฒนธรรมส่วนใหญ่ทั้งโนรา ชุดเคบาหยา ผ้าปาเต๊ะ ชื่อจังหวัด เครื่องดนตรี ทำนองดนตรี อาหารฯลฯ หลาย ๆ อย่างมาจากฝั่งมลายู //แต่เคลมโบเดียนี่จะเคลมทุกอย่างเสียให้ได้😂😂😂😂
The reality Thailand is copy country in southeast asia
Buddha Was Born in nepal
kra isthmus, singgora, pattani. Langkasuka empires.
malay shia! don't claim it this dance is theravada buddhist this dance use topic about buddhist jataka and it from bhartanatyam too if you will claim 'cause use pattani kindom (since1467 and sukhothai since 1239) refer that wrong and it is mahayana buddhist
You study history malay langkasuka1/2sm, kedah tua788sm, kelathana 200sm-4m...selatan Thailand is malay peninsula not Thai.. Thai(tai kadai from China)
@@thebestcartoon1615มาเลเพิ่งเป็นประเทศหลังอังกฤษยึดครอง อีกทั้ง มโนราเป็นสัตว์ในป่าหิมพานต์ ความเชื่อของชาวฮินดู มาเลเป็นอิสลาม มโนราห์มีครู ไหว้ผี มาเลมีด้วยเหรอ???
@@thebestcartoon1615www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-vivo-rvo2&sca_esv=584039882&sxsrf=AM9HkKn4D2aXz6JL0ufg8tdoCghbUR_TeA:1700502834754&q=Where+did+the+manohra+dance+come+from%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUr57bktOCAxVnyTgGHaxmAeMQzmd6BAgSEAY&biw=393&bih=745&dpr=2.75
@@thebestcartoon1615Malay was under colonial of Siam before Before the British came to Malaysia.
This is so beautiful! I always liked it even before I moved to live in Thailand. I film about Thailand, it’s Culture, places for my TH-cam channel
Stop to claim Malay, the world know this is a Southern Thai heritage dance. It’s a hindu-buddhism dance since the Ligor Kingdom. You can see this dance in Kelantan, Malaysia because once it has been a colonial of Siam yet 🙄
@ice'suphasin Kong'sri I know it’s a co-culture in the past and yes…it’s a heritage of Melayu. But I disagree to you that it’s from Langkasuka Kingdom because this show was represented in Hindu-Buddhism religious which is in the royal court of the ancient Pattalung city. The southern Melayu Siam can preserve this dance until today both in Thailand and the Orang Siam in Malaysia.
Malay and malaysia are different…if malay culture, means it includes malay Thailand
Yes it’s correct
Manorah is not Thai it's an Malay culture. How can thais claimed this dance as their own dance. -.-
@@milk_solo577 Nah manorah or menora means beautiful in old Malay language. You can't claim it because it's still Malay and malays are more older than Thais.
@@milk_solo577 Malay and Thai culture is actually similar I think because we used to live together with Thais and this dance is actually a dance from northern and east coast of Malaysia and it's still practised nowadays. Just like Turks and Mongols had a same culture but not with a same language family.
@@milk_solo577 Or a same tribe
this is thai sure! and this dance from kelantan i know thos place have thai so a lot that it have manorah 'cause have thai people
and northern of malay is colonial of thailand
@@oyefirangi2624 But this dance had existed since the pattani sultanate ;-;