Linux Mint LANGUAGE Problems

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  • @sudo-reboot
    @sudo-reboot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hiya Tom...you will be glad to know that LMDE does not suffer from the same problem.

  • @barrykirkby9626
    @barrykirkby9626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Have to admit when looking into the move from windows to Linux this channel sort of helped make up my mind, it's been mint ever since.

    • @davidtaylor-iw9kh
      @davidtaylor-iw9kh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      iv used liux mint 20.3 for years now with the gnome 3 desktop after 20.3 its gnome 4, windows problem is it trying to be a all i one with adroid apps ,ai crap ,i installd windows 11 to set up a hardrive up for my xbox next day turnd pc on and right thare in the middel of screen bing bar you kow like android thort what the hell i ever asked for r installd it, i was gunna install mint back any way so not botherd me , and what i have heard about the next windows its just geting worse .

  • @tedesco6224
    @tedesco6224 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here in Europe you are in another country with a foreign language if you only drive a few hundred kilometers (miles). It is common to speak more than one language. Why not learn a foreign language? It is so much fun.

  • @markhigginson9897
    @markhigginson9897 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Reiterating what @soulstenance said below I have no issue with language packs as I to am using LMDE 6. It maybe that the Ubuntu based Linux Mint has this problem. Being British I only had to remove 2 US and one South African language packs, all other non-British language packs were clear.

  • @tomwiklanski7274
    @tomwiklanski7274 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    LMDE 6 doesn't have this problem, it must be an Ubuntu problem. LMDE would be the perfect distro if they included Nvidia drivers. I couldn't get Nvidia drivers working through the command line. I had to go to the Nvidia website and download from there. Works good now.

  • @シミズルリ
    @シミズルリ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Have to disagree on this one. Believe it or not, for many people out there English is but a one of several languages they use daily, even if it's the main one on their PC. And the way to get all the langpacks and input methods you need isn't always straightforward. Not to mention that you are fighting for literal megabytes here.
    So yeah... As a someone who uses English, Russian and Japanese every day, I rate this video a monolingual/10.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A lot of the Linux users are from the Netherlands or Scandinavia and hate their own language and insult those who don't know English .

  • @riseabove3082
    @riseabove3082 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Complaining over a half a GB of space being eaten up - wow. I get it, it's unnecessary but it's not that much space really. More annoying than anything else.

  • @warthunder1969
    @warthunder1969 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Its not a significant amount of space but I'm going to come at this from the perspective of what's the point of updating and installing things you aren't using (like alternative languages). Its more about principle than it is about the space itself.

    • @orcaflotta7867
      @orcaflotta7867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zackerly! It's about doing the right thing.

  • @ShookD
    @ShookD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    TY so much, that was a lot of crap I didn't need! Thumbs up man!

  • @derekr54
    @derekr54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank's for that heads up Tom,I have checked LMDE and that does not have the same problem.

  • @Grunfeld
    @Grunfeld 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks. I have no idea if I've caused grief down the road but I've just used Synaptic to remove the Noto fonts. Seeing dozens of them in Libre Writer and Scrivener was annoying and no font manager seemed able to remove them. Well, now they've gone! No issues so far; let's see.

  • @Jon-g9n
    @Jon-g9n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have LM loaded on a Chromebook with an unupgradeable SSD of 16gb. I struggle with available storage space and I was excited to see this video. I went through and deleted all the unneeded packs. I see however that much of this has only been relocated to the archive folder. Is there a simple way to keep the archive folder clean? I read that the folder only maintains items for 30 days but I have more that 3gb of stuff in the folder and would like reclaim that space now rather than wait. Ideas?

  • @k.b.tidwell
    @k.b.tidwell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oh, man I'm so GLAD somebody brought this up! When I set up a Mint laptop, I TRY to remember to go get rid of all the extra languages like you did before I do that first update because boy, does it take a long time if you don't.

  • @arturofatturi9490
    @arturofatturi9490 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find the same problem with fonts. In synaptic I research "ttf", and the result is that my system have a bunch of fonts for arabic, norasi, thai, khmeros fonts....I have to erase all this...I agree with you: if I choose my language on installation, why this languages are installed? Why this fonts? Thanks for the video...

  • @BeeLeLz
    @BeeLeLz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    fyi, This isn't a problem with LMDE

  • @STONE69_
    @STONE69_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At one time, we had a choice to refuse language packs. Now its baked in to the distro. Lucky for me most of my Drives are 1 TB, plenty of space lol

  • @mvanzijl5
    @mvanzijl5 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The same goes for fonts. Eastern fonts can also be left out if no Eastern language is selected for installation

  • @FrDismasSayreOP
    @FrDismasSayreOP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I looked under "libreoffice" I noticed a bunch of files for previous versions of LO, like 7.2,7.3,7.4, etc. Would most of these files be ok to remove?

  • @alphaomega154
    @alphaomega154 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i remember something worse, i downloaded 2 small flatpak apps about less than 5 megs total(both of them) but it downloads more than a gig of dependencies from flathub. i guess since the small apps required that gigs dependency then its not a bloat? the native package version only takes some dozens of megs total. along with dependencies. why do faltpak requires such a big dependency bundles? i mean in windows, the only dependency required probably merely a few MSVC redist which only 20-50megs but apply to every other apps. just dont understand why flatpak support libs must be so big.

  • @AceOfBased
    @AceOfBased 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But, why?

  • @pcartisan2721
    @pcartisan2721 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Debian 12.4 (Gnome) install from a live usb did the same thing. I also found that I could delete some excess fonts from the ../truetype folder.
    My LibreOffice Calc font selection drop down menu was enormously long at first. Now I only have what I want.

  • @LedoCool1
    @LedoCool1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    500mb doesn't seem much by today's standards. But it's much for text data.

    • @LedoCool1
      @LedoCool1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@burgerkingen Fair. Recently I freed 20 gigabytes of free space by deleting megabyte-sized folders in AppData.

  • @MyDarkKnightRisesWhenISeeU
    @MyDarkKnightRisesWhenISeeU 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:57 "Sprechen Sie deutsch?"
    I can understand your german very well, good job! :D

  • @iplyrunescape305
    @iplyrunescape305 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this tip! I did recall seeing on the software updater that updates languages I was never going to use and typically took the longest in the updater... I just didn't think I could remove it as I thought it was part of the complete package. Idk, I didn't give it much thought.

  • @marksulloway5669
    @marksulloway5669 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Debian 12 Xfce does this as well and also includes Aspell. I also removed the Thai-terminal... Just tried out Debian 12 LXQT and it has exactly the same issue.

  • @Deathtome.
    @Deathtome. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, installing Linux Mint next week. Good thing to know. Will the second step be necessary if I choose another alternative to LibreOffice (I don't know if you can uninstall LibreOffice, but if so... I could skip the rest of the steps right?)

  • @DerEchteAndrej
    @DerEchteAndrej 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm from Germany and I switched the language of all devices, apps, OSs etc pp to English. Sure, I miss some details here and there but it is just easier to find solutions for problems I have in English than in German - just because there is much more stuff in English than in German. Also all of the code with its prompts, commands, and functions is based on English so it's easier to remember.

  • @antonysnook4932
    @antonysnook4932 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When i go on social media i get posts in other languages. I can have them translated to English.

  • @donvineyard8654
    @donvineyard8654 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm on LMDE6 and I do not get the extra english language versions. Ubuntu doing it?

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I could be wrong, but it seems that's the case, as Ubuntu becomes more bloated, and is also looking to increase minimum hardware specs to be able to run it, which I feel will affect other distros based on it.

    • @soulstenance
      @soulstenance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It does appear that way.

  • @FrDismasSayreOP
    @FrDismasSayreOP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have English, Spanish, and Mandarin. Two different keyboard layouts for Eng/Sp and one input method to change from Eng/Mandarin. I like keeping fonts so I can render things correctly, but no need for dictionaries, etc.

    • @quintit
      @quintit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      especially each individual dialect of the language lol

  • @r.razamhd
    @r.razamhd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    anyone in lmde facing this problem? cuzz I'm on lmde I didn't have any other unwanted lang packages installed on my pc so lamde is good ?

    • @soulstenance
      @soulstenance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same. Debian FTW! I honestly don't know why they don't drop the Ubuntu base. Is there a good reason not to use LMDE at this point? Throw together a driver manager and LMDE is golden as far as I can tell...

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    No Tom you missed one other huge flaw is that Mint has not dropped Ubuntu as it's base, and made Mint DE their main focus yet, as Canonical is making it harder to get the source Ubuntu iso's hiding them on a web server most will never go to, as pointed out in a recent video by Brodie Robertson.

    • @k.b.tidwell
      @k.b.tidwell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As one who made their first computer purchase on a C64 in 1983 for the princely sum of $288, I like your screen name. That very important thing said, I totally agree on LMDE. I've played around with it on a couple different laptops, and I'm soon putting it on my Lenovo T430. Have a great day!

  • @ph04041
    @ph04041 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This annoys me a lot.
    Glad I'm not the only one. :)
    Thanks for the video!

  • @orcaflotta7867
    @orcaflotta7867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    And naiive gurly me always thought Mint's biggest problem was its Ubuntu base. :/

    • @kpcraftster6580
      @kpcraftster6580 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nah, mint's biggest problem is its blind sycophants

    • @soulstenance
      @soulstenance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @orcaflotta7867 No I totally agree. It will absolutely happen once enough of the community wants it to happen. It will be quite an undertaking to switch and some rebranding I imagine but they listen to their users.

    • @orcaflotta7867
      @orcaflotta7867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kpcraftster6580 I guess those you'll find in the entranched Ubuntu camp, of which Mint is already a step upwards and out. Still crap, but a nifty gateway into Linux.

  • @theepicslayer7sss101
    @theepicslayer7sss101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Languages should be Opt in, even if i speak both French and English, does not mean i want to use my PC in french... at the install it should just let you choose the supported locals so if you do use programs or visit websites in those languages, it can display them but if you don't then installing extra stuff is kinda not needed. (then again someday people might have local translation software doing everything local in real time...)

  • @soulstenance
    @soulstenance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I just checked and this is a non-issue on my LMDE 6. I chose English Canada locale and Swedish keyboard at install (I'm a language nerd, don't worry about it 😅) and that is exactly what I have. I actually had a Steam game that demanded I install the English US locale so I have that partially installed too even though I didn't want it, but that's unrelated to Linux Mint. LibreOffice also only installed US in addition to Canada and I saved a few 100KB by removing that so it wasn't much. This sounds like an Ubuntu issue to me. Maybe it's time to switch to LMDE hehe.

    • @mariojpalomares2514
      @mariojpalomares2514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, i am thinking that too. This falls on ubuntu than on linux mint. That said though. By removing these lang packs can set you up for problems down the road. The whole purpose of lang packs in the first place is to accommodate worldwide. Given that mint is global is probably why. Windows is starting to slowly get into this but as of now, defaults to U.S because Windows is a U.S operating syatem. 100's of MB is nothing compared to windows. At least mint allows you to customize things. Good luck with windows not unless you use third party mod tools.
      Even with all the lang packs. It still pales compared to windows. In fact, mint orbits around windows and still be room for other edition of mint orbiting windows combined! Have you not seen how big windows iso's are becoming. A close to a 7GB download and thats compressed size too!

    • @soulstenance
      @soulstenance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mariojpalomares2514 Yeah Mint or even Ubuntu isn't even in the same ballpark as Windows. I don't think these need to all be installed to accommodate worldwide though. Just keep them as options but don't install them unless requested by the user should be a no brainer.

  • @fredmckinney8933
    @fredmckinney8933 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is INSANE! BTW, I recently created my own distro called F3OS (shorthand for The Free Family-Friendly Operating System), which is based on Debian Stable, uses the Xfce desktop environment (I do, BTW, have plans to create editions with other desktop environments), and comes with built-in web content filtering, for families as well as anyone else who wishes to have a safeguard against online temptation. I just checked Synaptic in F3OS, and no, Debian didn't do that nonsense like what happened in Mint. :-)

  • @JaiRudraNath
    @JaiRudraNath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a shell script that can be created for this..

  • @SandcastleDreams
    @SandcastleDreams วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Writers would find these language packs useful.

  • @oldcodger
    @oldcodger 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, totally agree that this bloat should not be there. Same situation with Noto fonts, which clog up the menus of every app. Totally not needed.

  • @OpenBASED
    @OpenBASED 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow, I had no idea! Great tutorial. This may be off-topic but isn't it time that Mint start to look for an alternative to Xfce? When you put it againt MATE there's barely a noticeable difference, those that pick Xfce are most likely in need of a lightweight DE and Xfce is not as lightweight as it used to be, I think it has to do with the switch to GTK3?
    I am saying this as a fan of Xfce btw. What about LXDE or something similar? I know it would probably piss off some that like Mint Xfce and prefer it over Cinnamon or MATE. I feel the Xfce Edition no longer serve a purpose. The idea of Mint's Xfce Edition is obviously about making Mint accessible for those that are on older computers.

    • @OpenBASED
      @OpenBASED 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes I know you could install LXDE yourself, but it would MOST likely not look as good as if it would if the Mint team customized it.

    • @soulstenance
      @soulstenance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      LXqt is more current and uses the qt libraries instead of GTK, though I have no idea if that would play nice with Mint or not. Anyone who wants an ultra light system should just do vanilla Debian or something and install the desktop of their choosing. MATE and XFCE are similar in lightness I've heard but I can't say much about XFCE having not use it hardly at all. If you're using Mint, Cinnamon is the best choice in most cases, as it's their flagship desktop.

    • @STONE69_
      @STONE69_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not at all fool, People use Xfce, because of how smooth, how fast and how stable it is and how it works. They are completely different. You obviously don't know anything.

    • @SnakePliskan44
      @SnakePliskan44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You know very little of what you are talking about XFCE is very widely used in Linux. Might even be the most used.

    • @mikeunt44
      @mikeunt44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you should change your name to @Dailyidiot.

  • @lvill3633
    @lvill3633 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this, keep it up! ☺️

  • @WellSwolen69
    @WellSwolen69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why don't they offer
    "American English" for the Americas
    "King's English" for Europe?
    I could see Australian English included, but it is not necessary.
    Almost all forms of English fit one of these two versions very close.

  • @BroonParker
    @BroonParker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Useful tips. The American stereotyping of the rest of the world, not so much.
    And American English - pretty much a linguistic virus as far as I'm concerned.

    • @SwitchedtoLinux
      @SwitchedtoLinux  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In case you didn't notice...this gets rid of languages we do not need. If you do not use American English...get rid of it and all the languages you don't need and keep the ones you do.

  • @antonysnook4932
    @antonysnook4932 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you install it asks your Language and i use English. As someone born in England and lives in Canada i know how language and spelling and even pronunciation is different. And keyboards are setup for certain languages. It is like when you buy something and you get a manual with English and other languages because we live in a world where stuff is shipped all over the world. People in Canada are often immigrants and read stuff in their language because it is simpler. Here in Canada we have people who speak French.

  • @CCJ1998
    @CCJ1998 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Manjaro used to nag me about installing Language packs when I first installed it. In recent versions they've gotten rid of those nags. Sounds like the Mint team trying to be everybodies beginner OS out of the box. Can't blame them since they have the top recommendations everywhere for being that. They probably figure advanced users would have moved onto something more customizable like Arch or plain Debian by the time they get to "Switched To Linux Host" stage.

  • @sevenfacedsin
    @sevenfacedsin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I use Bleachbit after every install. It cleans unneeded languages right out.

    • @k.b.tidwell
      @k.b.tidwell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do the same thing and it's pretty satisfying seeing that one big lump sum of reclaimed space lol.

    • @AceOfBased
      @AceOfBased 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've heard bad thing about BleachBit.

    • @johnywalker5186
      @johnywalker5186 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, bleach it is the first thing which I install. In the old days when ma root partition was about 40 gigs I had to keep things clean as possible.

  • @mariojpalomares2514
    @mariojpalomares2514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yet still less bloated than windows because who knows why windows just keeps on growing in GB's. Storage is dirt cheap. Once you in the TB range this really does not matter much.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also love the use of the Monty Python style circus music in the video 😂

  • @antonysnook4932
    @antonysnook4932 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was on NOBARA but Audio codecs had to be installed over and over again. So i went back to Mint it is popular with other pod casters. And Mint is old and older is better. New usually means bugs to iron out.

  • @belstar1128
    @belstar1128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if you try to use a language that uses a different writing system or has accents like this é you will just get a bunch of ???? because it only supports pure ascii because Unicode is bloatware and also spyware. and most Linux users are from places like Amsterdam or Oslo and hate their own languages .

  • @sylwesterirla9246
    @sylwesterirla9246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks

  • @peterjansen4826
    @peterjansen4826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It would be easier to remove all those packages from the terminal by using a smart regular expression. Of course then you need to know how to do that but it probably is worth it to learn it and that way not have to use the much slower GUI all the time for these kind of tasks. I have nothing against using the GUI but in some cases it takes much more time and then I recommend using the terminal.

  • @kuromin69
    @kuromin69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mentioned the exact same ting a few days ago in my video at
    th-cam.com/video/WNOw3puQPIc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=l-XNp__HffK2vK_n&t=1281
    I do think that "apply system wide" does influence the office packages, but I am not sure (I doubt) it removes the just removed. I am still not fully sure what "apply system wide" does :/
    One thing that mint does very well, is that you can easily change the time format from American to British, while keeping the same interface and stuff. Also installing input methods for Asian keyboards is totally 1st class on mint! Mint does languages well. But yeah...
    There could be some better attempt of managing and possibly removing some of these other packages as well.

  • @xellaz
    @xellaz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Come to MX Linux with KDE Plasma~ It's great! 🤪

  • @yghhhhrffv
    @yghhhhrffv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not sure what the big deal is really. Part of the course for new to Linux distorts
    Storage is so cheap these days

  • @alicechang7074
    @alicechang7074 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    omgomgomgomg the world is gonna end its half a GIGABYTE

  • @dksayt
    @dksayt หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just get a bigger SSD.

  • @Mrneilthompsonuk
    @Mrneilthompsonuk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ga is probably gaelic

  • @Little-bird-told-me
    @Little-bird-told-me 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    who cares with 1 GB ssd, i never run of even 50% space

    • @soulstenance
      @soulstenance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mint won't even install to such a small drive haha. 😂 (I know you meant "TB" but I had to.)

  • @binaryboyo9674
    @binaryboyo9674 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WOW. Did you really want to lose all your English speaking audience like AUS, UK, CAN & NZ etc!? :o
    Especially when US is Not the real and original English but just a variation & localisation!!
    I think we should all clean out our US libraries now to get rid of that strange spelling inc. Z's instead of S's etc! 👎😠

    • @SwitchedtoLinux
      @SwitchedtoLinux  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL. I can't see how deleted an uneeded dialect on my computer causes the rest of the world not not be able to use them on their system.

  • @alexey.karamanov
    @alexey.karamanov 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Русский язык бы оставил, пригодится 😊