My grandmother (92 years old) heard Steve talking about "valve movement" and thought he was saying "bowel movement" and was wondering if he was having trouble with it lol I almost died, shorted out my keyboard with tears from laughing so hard. Poor granny..
Ever see the part in the cartoon movie Shrek? When he walked into the city and notices the bigger then everything buildings. The next line he has is directly to boost and those manly push rods.
At half sweep or half lift I set mine perpendicular to the valve centerline, whereas if I draw an imaginary line through the center of the fulcrum and the tip that line should be exactly perpendicular to the valve. That will be the longest point from the fulcrum to where the roller tip touches the valve. Similar to the dwell point at TDC, from that point up or down your moving back. From there to zero lift or full lift will set your contact patch width. If your patch is not centered you now know the contact patch width and can calculate how much offset you need for your stands. All the videos where guys show this make it look so complicated, if you draw it on paper you really start to see how simple it is, elementary school geometry.
I started using a piece of paper between the rocker and stem. It will mark itself and show the sweep of the rocker. You will be able to see if the sweep is centered.
Always look forward to seeing you (and Kyle's) videos. You explain the science, geometry, and physics of it all in the simplest of layman's terms. Some may say that this much attention to detail doesn't really matter but it really does. Keep em coming. 💯 👌🏼🇬🇺
you do a good job of "practical" explanation... gives customers an idea of why a new build takes so friggen long and why it costs what it does.. Personally, I hate new stuff and especially so when they need it yesterday... Love the tapered pushrod.. We only ran .500 in the KB fuel motors.. But in all reality, the HP you are getting out of some of these promod motors is the same as a 20 year old fuel engine.. pretty amazing to see low 5's out of a door car of any kind...
Poor dog must not like Fords. One minute he's behind Steve working on a Ford and he's looking bummed. Next minute he's out venting his frustrations on some unsuspecting rube.
Great video Steve. I build a lot of engines and mostly for street engines IMHO the stock length pushrods are fine but I always check them. The LS's I build I have found really respond to checking the valvetrain for wear and proper operation. Even the junkyard 5.3's get worn rockers replaced and a new set of one piece pushrods. I have an old roller tipped rocker and look for a centered contact patch on the valve tip with a .020" or so wide sweep pattern at .550" lift. I have had to go slightly longer but the biggest problem I've seen is reusing worn valve hardware. You LS guy's wonder what that ticking noise is, check that pushrod tip and rocker pushrod pocket seat.
I love watching your videos, especially the sense of humor you have. You and Tim McAmis would be a great pair to tell us how not to do stupid crap. Lol
I think it was the 94 Ilmor-Mercedes Indycar engine where they discovered that if they mounted the cam really high in the block and used a cam follower bottom rocker they could get away with using a 3 inch pushrod for a lessened valvetrain effort .. But really the main advantage was they could get away with running an extra 5psi of boost by running a 'stock block' , though what that engine had in common with any production engine is still not quite clear.
Funny how Jessel (in their instructions and setting tool) always had more sweep off the seat and others like T&D and yourself go with more of an even sweep. Danny said it was due to sideload with big springs and having less sweep when the spring forces were at their highest. I always went with even sweeps which always gave the narrowest pattern and most lift.
Hello Stéve, love your channel. Have you ever considered Jesel‘s rocker arm sweep, set up? What do you look for when setting roller geometry and sweep pattern? JESEL We set our aluminum systems with a low pivot geometry which results in the majority of the sweep pattern occurring while spring pressures are at their lower range. The majority of roller travel occurs from zero lash to half lift which results in minimum roller travel for the duration of lift when spring pressures are greatest. At zero lash, the roller should start approximately .050” behind the center of the valve stem, sweep across center and end near the center at full lift.
Does allison transmission make anything racers would be interested in I just landed a job there and want to know what to put in the lunchbox? Just kidding!
You do not sell cheap shirts. And your shipping is reasonable as well. a lot of people I won’t order from cause shipping is way too much for just a shirt. Appreciate you!
Very informative and straight forward. I noticed in this vid and others I have seen, there are numbers written on the gasket surface for the valve cover. What do they mean?
Man thanks for this video, as crazy as it sounds. I race lawnmowers,and run a tecumseh engine that has a stand set up.. only difference is my rockers arnt roller right now. But having a small problem with the tips wearing kinda funny.. I can take this info and see if I can fix this little issue I have. Thanks.
2:04, Mr Morris, you're the doctor. I think the pistons on the trophy in the background are upside down. Just an extremely important thought from someone with apparent OCD. LOL. I love what you're doing for motorsports!
Just a thought. Would increasing the roller diameter on the rocker arm make the contact with the valve better? Then it would have good contact thru the arc. Thanks.
So if I’m absorbing this right you would wanna set your rocker height then if you really wanna get technical with the exact duration you’d wanna look to the cam grind 2nd to achieve perfection from there?
Can anyone tell me what keeps the stands from twisting if the washer is under it and the only thing making contact with the head? I know I'm missing something it must have a pocket or a groove that it falls into.
Damn detailed explanation with an awesome camera person following you closely point to point💪, Steve does moving up the stand higher away from the bolted position make it more unstable at high rpm? And does the "manly" larger heavier pushrods make it easier for high rpm tendency for float , since titanium retainers were used to lighten valve train operation? I didn't ask that right, hope you understood 🤔👍
I bought a square body pickup that had a nice 350 engine someone spent alot of money on it.Iron Eagle heads ARP head bolts Comp Cams valve train ect.Ran like crap valve ticks and taps.Come to find out it had 351 Ford push rods in it which was a shorter and you couldn't get the valves adjusted.Put a set of Chevy pushrods in it problem solved.
My grandmother (92 years old) heard Steve talking about "valve movement" and thought he was saying "bowel movement" and was wondering if he was having trouble with it lol I almost died, shorted out my keyboard with tears from laughing so hard. Poor granny..
No way Oh My i am smiling
Her flapper valve is worn out
By the sounds of things? 🤔
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BigRed-MWA Huh?
Haha Tonya Harding push rod had me cracking up 😂😂
Real knee slapper...
@@HighwayMike too soon . . .
Boost fixes everything, if it ain't broke, it can fix that too. 👌
The Manley push rods in my sbc look just like your Girly push rods.
I've never been one for looking at other mens pushrods, but you might have just converted me 🤣🤣
Let’s not go there😂
@@stevemorrisracing 🤣🤣
Thanks, Steve for showing me how to get my measuring technique down Now I wont start with my taint!! good deal!! i got an 1.5" Killing it
Manton will make you pushrods to the .001. I order them all the time.
Ever see the part in the cartoon movie Shrek? When he walked into the city and notices the bigger then everything buildings. The next line he has is directly to boost and those manly push rods.
The Devil's Drumsticks!
The shirts are actually really nice i got a couple i like them
At half sweep or half lift I set mine perpendicular to the valve centerline, whereas if I draw an imaginary line through the center of the fulcrum and the tip that line should be exactly perpendicular to the valve. That will be the longest point from the fulcrum to where the roller tip touches the valve. Similar to the dwell point at TDC, from that point up or down your moving back. From there to zero lift or full lift will set your contact patch width. If your patch is not centered you now know the contact patch width and can calculate how much offset you need for your stands. All the videos where guys show this make it look so complicated, if you draw it on paper you really start to see how simple it is, elementary school geometry.
love the Dereck from VGG reference! Love your channel and content.
Thanks for this, Steve. As luck would have it I need to measure my pushrods and get them ordered.
Love my All the Freedom shirt. Wish I needed a set of Tonya Harding push rods. But I don't. Dammit,!!
I started using a piece of paper between the rocker and stem. It will mark itself and show the sweep of the rocker. You will be able to see if the sweep is centered.
just ordered my shirt an cups love the content man
Always look forward to seeing you (and Kyle's) videos. You explain the science, geometry, and physics of it all in the simplest of layman's terms. Some may say that this much attention to detail doesn't really matter but it really does. Keep em coming. 💯 👌🏼🇬🇺
Glad you like them!
This is what sets you apart from other channels. I love this stuff !
Thanks for all you vids Steve Morris . Would you do one on Cleetus’ refresh when you get it? Like you and all your motors , big time winners. Thanks
Yep will do
I'm really looking forward to seeing this. It should be fine but you never know.
I saw in Cleetus’ last video he is finally going to send you Mullet’s engine, can’t wait to see your video on the refresh of it.
I know Jesel has a tool for setting the stand height that they include in the kit.
Steve thinking nitrous guys know how to read is pretty funny.
you do a good job of "practical" explanation... gives customers an idea of why a new build takes so friggen long and why it costs what it does..
Personally, I hate new stuff and especially so when they need it yesterday... Love the tapered pushrod.. We only ran .500 in the KB fuel motors.. But in all reality, the HP you are getting out of some of these promod motors is the same as a 20 year old fuel engine.. pretty amazing to see low 5's out of a door car of any kind...
Dewey is the only one in the shop that can see ghosts, so cut him some slack. He's protecting all of you.
Totally agree with you on how nice your shirts are! Love mine, especially love how long they are
Poor dog must not like Fords. One minute he's behind Steve working on a Ford and he's looking bummed. Next minute he's out venting his frustrations on some unsuspecting rube.
I've bought a few of your shirts and the first thing I noticed is the quality is way better than most.
thanks
Awesome video, you show us the correct and easy way to do it the
First time!
Thanks 👍
I have a very strong suspicion that you could not carry-on the manly pushrods when taking an airplane.
Custom engine building at it's finest. Thanks Steve.
I like how the dog really doesn't get more than 5 feet away from you!
Great video Steve. I build a lot of engines and mostly for street engines IMHO the stock length pushrods are fine but I always check them. The LS's I build I have found really respond to checking the valvetrain for wear and proper operation. Even the junkyard 5.3's get worn rockers replaced and a new set of one piece pushrods. I have an old roller tipped rocker and look for a centered contact patch on the valve tip with a .020" or so wide sweep pattern at .550" lift. I have had to go slightly longer but the biggest problem I've seen is reusing worn valve hardware. You LS guy's wonder what that ticking noise is, check that pushrod tip and rocker pushrod pocket seat.
Every video of Steve Tech I learn how to build engines better. Thanks for all you do for the industry brother. 🇺🇸
I love watching your videos, especially the sense of humor you have. You and Tim McAmis would be a great pair to tell us how not to do stupid crap. Lol
What is a good metal choice for your shims?
Steel
“Just do it, trust me” 👀 coffin on top of offices. Me: ok Steve, no problem 😅
It's all about geometry 👌 I love watching your tech videos Steve, the way you explain and demonstrate what you're doing makes it super easy to follow.
Awesome video Steve , thanks for sharing
So funny my dog started Barking 😊
Thank you. Clear and understandable show and tell.
The red cup can also be used to take up a donation for your buddy's nitrous inflicted broken parts lol
thanks for sharing your valuable time and knowledge
I think it was the 94 Ilmor-Mercedes Indycar engine where they discovered that if they mounted the cam really high in the block and used a cam follower bottom rocker they could get away with using a 3 inch pushrod for a lessened valvetrain effort .. But really the main advantage was they could get away with running an extra 5psi of boost by running a 'stock block' , though what that engine had in common with any production engine is still not quite clear.
So cool to see Kyle following in your footsteps. I hope one of my kids has enough interest to learn the stuff I have to teach
Funny how Jessel (in their instructions and setting tool) always had more sweep off the seat and others like T&D and yourself go with more of an even sweep. Danny said it was due to sideload with big springs and having less sweep when the spring forces were at their highest. I always went with even sweeps which always gave the narrowest pattern and most lift.
Smart a$$ lol,nitrous guy still saving for boost and hoops!,so forgive me if im not ready for a shirt
Are you going to clearance the pushrod holes in the head, or is the actual pushrod smaller than the checking pushrod?
My wife says i have a nice push rod!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
3👍's up Steve Morris thank you for sharing
Thanks Steve for the info. It was very helpful.
Hello Stéve, love your channel. Have you ever considered Jesel‘s rocker arm sweep, set up?
What do you look for when setting roller geometry and sweep pattern?
JESEL
We set our aluminum systems with a low pivot geometry which results in the majority of the sweep pattern occurring while spring pressures are at their lower range. The majority of roller travel occurs from zero lash to half lift which results in minimum roller travel for the duration of lift when spring pressures are greatest. At zero lash, the roller should start approximately .050” behind the center of the valve stem, sweep across center and end near the center at full lift.
Does allison transmission make anything racers would be interested in I just landed a job there and want to know what to put in the lunchbox? Just kidding!
I would’ve cross threaded those bolts with the impact 1000%… very impressive
Hell yeah brother thank you
Loved the “cup in hand” example discussion with the nitrous Buddy… mfriggin funny az fuk !!!!
To best see contact area use cheap red lipstick works everytime
Great information. Much appreciated.
The Tonya bit was funny shit. Had to back up to watch what I missed while laughing
Why do you have a casket in the background above the restroom?
That’s what I want to know?
Ear phones on, I thought my dog was barking!
Very entertaining and informative!
You do not sell cheap shirts. And your shipping is reasonable as well. a lot of people I won’t order from cause shipping is way too much for just a shirt. Appreciate you!
Gonna have to grab that bundle!
😁
Very informative and straight forward.
I noticed in this vid and others I have seen, there are numbers written on the gasket surface for the valve cover.
What do they mean?
You need a "Methanol burns everything" T-Shirt too 😁
Or " i love meth"
🤣🤣
Thanks brother
Am I the only one that notices how the manly pushrod looks like a drumstick for a drum?
Man thanks for this video, as crazy as it sounds. I race lawnmowers,and run a tecumseh engine that has a stand set up.. only difference is my rockers arnt roller right now. But having a small problem with the tips wearing kinda funny.. I can take this info and see if I can fix this little issue I have. Thanks.
Steve, Does the roller center and the fulcrum center being 90 deg to the valve center line at 1/2 lift not apply anymore? Thanks
Lol love these videos
your pushrod vs the pushrod she told you not to worry about
The Tonya Harding!!! Takes a real man to handle lol!
2:04, Mr Morris, you're the doctor. I think the pistons on the trophy in the background are upside down. Just an extremely important thought from someone with apparent OCD. LOL. I love what you're doing for motorsports!
this guy just keeps pulling HP OUT OF HIS HAT a magic trick
another great vid sir, Man those Ferd heads look like they flow r they stock or have been loved on
The Tonya Harding Push Rod... 🤦🤦✊🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do you ever use the mid-lift method for pushrod length on stud mounted rocker arms?
Just a thought. Would increasing the roller diameter on the rocker arm make the contact with the valve better? Then it would have good contact thru the arc. Thanks.
I think the added weight from a larger roller would outweigh any benefit from the tiny increase in contact area
Insane valve springs demand insane pushrods. The roller world has changed a whole lot of things.
At peak lift, you'd want the roller tip about centered?
So if I’m absorbing this right you would wanna set your rocker height then if you really wanna get technical with the exact duration you’d wanna look to the cam grind 2nd to achieve perfection from there?
Awesome
Can anyone tell me what keeps the stands from twisting if the washer is under it and the only thing making contact with the head? I know I'm missing something it must have a pocket or a groove that it falls into.
Great tutorial.
Is that dry or oil film on them can it add a couple of thou,also back of big end and mains should you lube them or leave them dry?
The vgg shout out!
Damn detailed explanation with an awesome camera person following you closely point to point💪, Steve does moving up the stand higher away from the bolted position make it more unstable at high rpm? And does the "manly" larger heavier pushrods make it easier for high rpm tendency for float , since titanium retainers were used to lighten valve train operation? I didn't ask that right, hope you understood 🤔👍
I bought a square body pickup that had a nice 350 engine someone spent alot of money on it.Iron Eagle heads ARP head bolts Comp Cams valve train ect.Ran like crap valve ticks and taps.Come to find out it had 351 Ford push rods in it which was a shorter and you couldn't get the valves adjusted.Put a set of Chevy pushrods in it problem solved.
Steve that’s so manly of a pushrod STROKING IT comes naturally!! 🤪
3:35 Those are some "10 year old girl" valve springs!!! LOL!!!
Absolutely Feckin Awesome
That's the size of a caterpillar c13 injector pushrod lol.
Stroking the man's pushrod I see
the boosted boys need a billet block a 4-cylinder you should make them one
Dewey doing Dewey things as always. Gotta love it. LOL On a more serious note, can you build a NPK rules compliant SMX that produces over 4500HP?
Yes
That is also a lot more mass to move so not really as good as people would have you believe
Great content thanks for sharing
But I'm the nitrous guy in the pits. lol
Steve is a Riot 😂😂😂!
I was going to order a new SMX, but I refuse to do business with anyone that can't discipline their dog for filming. phht!