Im Done With Flat Wheel setups for Aggressive Inline JadRollerVlog Rollerblading

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  • @djrealyouth5499
    @djrealyouth5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This video represents a trend I see a lot in Rollerblading these days.. People buying all sorts of different frames and wheels, switching set ups frequently and experimenting with everything in a rapid fire kind of way, and then seeming to be more confused about what set up they prefer afterwards. Honestly, I think you're a good enough skater that if you just choose a set up and go with it... Pick a frame, stick with anti or flat, but pick one, even pick a wheel size and shape and stick with that.. Put in a solid year on that set up, whatever it may be. I don't think any set up checks all the boxes, but there's so many set ups, many of which you tried in the last few months, that are thoroughly enjoyable. As far as reviewing products on youtube and whatnot, focusing on testing one product for a prolonged period of time is crucial to providing a meaningful review. Everybody goes through the adjustment periods when changing big things on their skates... It's cool to hear about that adjustment period of the individual in the review, but how someone feels about the product after adjusting to it and using it regularly is the real info most are looking for.

    • @NOIS_inks
      @NOIS_inks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel ya man I have so many frame setups and boots and so far after everything I am now rolling tri rocker with a chroma anti-rocker in wheel 2 and I’m gravy now.

    • @therealforestelf
      @therealforestelf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      old guy mentality but actually kind of true. most of the time my skating just got better because of my laziness to change up the setup depending on my "needs" for the session. e.g. flat for ledges, freestyle for pipe etc. I think the industry lives from having people buy 20 skates & 50 frames & 30 wheel setups :'D per year - 10 of these folks get you the money you get out of 100 newcomers buying 1 skate & setup per year xD

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      For me it's because I just like playing with gear. It's more of a gear obsession and then fomo when there's other gear I haven't tried ha ha

    • @phantommaggotxxx
      @phantommaggotxxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This comment nailed it...
      You're spending WAY too much money messing around... Save the money, get out and skate and practice. You can't buy your game.
      IMO, get a set of fluid Vs, mount em to the skate you're most comfortable in and just skate. Stay on that set up for a while.. don't be switching up non stop.
      You'll be forced to get better. Pretend to have less money lol..

    • @CosmykTheDolfyn
      @CosmykTheDolfyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel this so much as well. I live in a country where you can't just ship in new parts whenever you want and there are no shops. I've been rolling some Roces Yuto Goto Fifth Elements forever, with the cuffs held together by tape and string, old Razors liners becuase I wore through the Roces liners, riding flat on some Roces frames with mismatching wheels. I never really rode flat before, but I learned after a few weeks. I love it now. I can't imagine having the money or ability to get frames whenever you want, all your skates/frames look better than brand new.

  • @louistorres
    @louistorres 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I was a pro skater back in 1995 and seeing these skaters today, it's mindblowing how great they are! It also seems like inlining is making a comeback!

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's awesome!!!!!!!! Dude hop back on the train!!!!!!

    • @louistorres
      @louistorres 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jadrollervlog I would have to start by just inlining again! Haha! Back then, I was the first non-Roces sponsored skater in the United States to have the Roces Majestic 12 skates that I bought from my boy Frankie Lascovio for $50 who road for them at the time. Hahaha! The guys from Daily Bread and XSkate magazine used to stay at my house when they made their way to NYC. Such a fun time.

    • @Hayyothhakodesh
      @Hayyothhakodesh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I rode trying to go pro in 97 but I rode till 2007 and now I'm riding again after many years!! Rock on to all the old ones the pioneers!!! We still can ride it and grind it!

  • @f1exso
    @f1exso ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've just started riding a 65mm bullet anti rocker set up on flt3s and they are great!

  • @chris_371
    @chris_371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm surprised no one mentioned using 95a for the middle wheels. Sick skating btw!

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried that on the frames. It definitely helps. I still love a good flat setup. THEM frames are most enjoyable for me for that. At one point I road all 58 95 dead wheels and it was fast and fun! But if Im trying grinds I'm not used to or confident with, ant is the way for me

    • @remyhendrikse6450
      @remyhendrikse6450 ปีที่แล้ว

      What brand do you get for 95a wheels? My Kryptonics 96a are great can't find them in stores anymore.

    • @chris_371
      @chris_371 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@remyhendrikse6450 Dead wheels

  • @xt6274
    @xt6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super informative vid and rad skating! FLT3 all the way for me.

  • @thenightspydercollector8066
    @thenightspydercollector8066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good use of session clips to give product/point purposefulness 👍

  • @AggressiveInlineDiary
    @AggressiveInlineDiary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!! I'm 2020 also the whole year drove the USD Aeons Flat but it just felt so good afterwards to drive anti-rocker again.
    Once again a very successful video. I'm always waiting for your next uploads, from you one can learn so much. Keep it up!

  • @pogoSK8
    @pogoSK8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good to see that not everyone sees flat as the ultimate way to skate. Personally, I grind a lot and get along better with freestyle or anti setups. Atm I prefer to change skates as needed. Btw another endboss skill episode. ✌️

  • @jasoncalva
    @jasoncalva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I noticed that virtually none of your frames have the grooves broken in, which will always skew how they ride out of the box vs being broken in. Much of the groove height issues you were feeling in the Oysi medium chassis goes away once you have a session on a curb just to break in the royale grooves a bit. Also if you have multiple setups for different obstacles that might work for you too. Keep an anti setup for ledges, and a flat setup for bowls and transitions. Great skating, editing, and content as usual!

  • @yingyangfeet
    @yingyangfeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I been freestyle and anti rocker for 17 years. masterblade frames have the sweetspot of flat with anti rocker. A plus is they are wicked fast on all grinds.

  • @ryrod
    @ryrod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Second the aluminum core wheels that Tim mentioned! I have a hockey background and enjoyed flat for a while too. Now that I'm older I'd prefer not to stick and die so I went back to anti rocker. I tried the 60mm 88a undercover Apex wheels at an indoor park and my blade life was instantly changed. I didn't miss flat at all. Great speed while having that anti rocker peace of mind. I have 64mm 90a Famus wheels for outdoor parks and those are amazing too.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I think I need to try both these wheels. They sound so fun!!!!!

  • @Semiresponsible
    @Semiresponsible 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well you definitely proved you can ride flat if you want to. Great breakdown on your gear preferences (and great skating). Would love to see your reaction to 50/50 Prime frames at some point

  • @Avedisdrummer09
    @Avedisdrummer09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you get a chance to try an aluminum core 60mm anti-rocker set up, you can recover a very noticeable amount of speed. I've tried the Famus, Core UK, UC Apex, and Moonshine White Lightning and all of them function about the same. Really fast!

    • @slugstory
      @slugstory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I usually skate 58mm for anti, is 60 still pretty cozy?

    • @slugstory
      @slugstory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The aluminum cores look siiiick

    • @okthisisthelasttimeipromise
      @okthisisthelasttimeipromise 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for saying this. Excited to try it out.

  • @apexpredator_jku
    @apexpredator_jku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always been an antirocker guy since the genesis...box cars with midgets. I've tinkered with flat on occasion but never really worked out for me. Now I'm coming back to blading after an 8 year hiatus & with the advent of skates such as the Aeon I figured I'd give it another go. Supposedly wheel bite & flat is all but a thing of the past or so the story goes. My very first attempt at a grind after my hiatus...boom, bit the dust on a ledge. Then I tried to remedy that with a harder durometer for middle wheels but still maintaining 60mm on all 4. Better but still eatin' ish 1 out of 3-4x. I'm not a spring chicken anymore so that's not feasible. Then tried bullet profile wheels. Success rate with those I could live with but rolling around feels wonky to me. So I finally said screw this flat ish & got me some Moonshine antirockers. Now I got folks telling me, "that defeats the purpose of Aeons". yeah, yeah...I know but whatever. Antirocker has always worked for me. I never felt the need where it was imperitive to go flat. Long story short, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

    • @marcusharrison2569
      @marcusharrison2569 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment, I needed to see this to confirm the anti rocker setup as I'm a beginner with the Aeon 60s and mainly focused on aggressive grind style skating

  • @ThirtyandRollin
    @ThirtyandRollin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You're a rail/ledge dancer, I'm surprised you stayed flat this long haha!

  • @BladerReboot
    @BladerReboot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great episode! Very insightful on different frames and wheel setups. I recently ventured from my Aeons to try UFS and I’ve found the Kizer Fluid Vs are solid for flat. I’m riding them 55mm flat and I don’t think it’s possible to get wheel bite. I’m beginner level though and haven’t tried complex grinds. Seems that they wouldn’t be too good for Flowey switch ups though. Once you’re locked in the groove, it’s like you’re on a train track 😁🙌

    • @dev_with_me
      @dev_with_me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve been thinking about switching from aeons to them. How has your transition been so far?

    • @BladerReboot
      @BladerReboot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dev_with_me so far it’s been an easy transition! I feel like you have to be a little more precise when locking, and the frame feels a hair taller. It’s been more of a mental game for me. It’s almost impossible to miss on Aeons. I had the fluid Vs set up anti-rocker at first… that was a mistake. If you miss the H-block you’ll grind on the wheel bite protection next to the anti-rocker wheel. Haven’t had that issue since switching to 55mm flat. They also feel very solid and have good power transfer. They feel almost as fast as my aeons, just rolling around.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BladerReboot that's probably the route I would go or those sick Entente Goods Diridari But they are super expensive!

    • @BladerReboot
      @BladerReboot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jadrollervlog I didn’t have a clue what frames those were so I just looked them up. They seem to be pretty similar looking to the fluid Vs. Id recommend getting some Vs to mess around with since they are pretty cheap and built like a tank 😁

    • @shawndecastro8457
      @shawndecastro8457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kizer fluid v are dope rockin 61s on there. definitely a lot more speed you don't have to pump or stride much.

  • @nitemirror1
    @nitemirror1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i was flabbergasted that people who wanted to grind started putting real wheels in the middle again. my thoughts were that it was a bunch of kids who didn’t grow up chunking out on a royale skating street. i adjusted to flat in the end because i basically can’t have small wheels, and i’m tired of buying $40 of wheels every few months. everyone who transitions to flat loses grinds. at my age these days i don’t care. i’d rather hit a huge soul on something big then 360 into a grind on something small.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get it totally! I don't burn through wheels super quick but I do enjoy the smooth ride of flat.

  • @chrisrobertson7987
    @chrisrobertson7987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love seeing oak city sticker in so many rollerblading videos. I'm so proud of Long lol

  • @alexanderbrechtl8448
    @alexanderbrechtl8448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Flat or anti...at the end of the day it comes down to what you feel most comfortably on. Don't get caught up (too much) in hypes & focus on what works best for you. :) P.S.: cool & insightful video!

  • @andrewwinkelmeyer6503
    @andrewwinkelmeyer6503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve heard the entente frames for flat are pretty much the best way to go. They are expensive though. Shipping to the US and the cost of the frame is pretty much the same cost as a cheap boot only. $200 I think.

  • @marcbenjamin6841
    @marcbenjamin6841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I came here for your message and didn't want to see the action... until I saw the action. Your tech skills are off the bearings.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you my friend that's a huge compliment! Thank you!!!!!

  • @konnyknees
    @konnyknees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    woah dude, was not expecting such an awesome video. great content! subscribed :)

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!!!!!! Wow such kind words!

  • @oghomelesskid
    @oghomelesskid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    those winter bails hit different!

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ohhhhhhhh yes they do! Everything hurts more especially after when you thaw out.

  • @benadams8525
    @benadams8525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    haha I just came to the same conclusion. Been riding 55mm Redeye on Kizer Fluid V and honestly love it, but just don't want to overthink every time I approached a ledge, and the flat 55 was slower than my 60mm anti setup. Could be bearings I suppose though.
    I ride razors shifts so I'm keeping the flat setup around if I end up changing my mind :-)

  • @ninjamagic5150
    @ninjamagic5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have some sick moves I've never seen. Getting back into. It. Just need to figure out a good setup for some serious riding

  • @bobbobertbobberton1073
    @bobbobertbobberton1073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never ridden a flat, been skating on and off since the 90's and I'm finally gonna try a flat set up, even though the cost of an extra set on wheels and bearings sucks. Want to see what its like.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is definitely a way better riding experience. But you're going to find the opposite problem that most do. Since you're so used to the train track feel, a flat setup feels almost too swervy. I find when I ride flat on big ramps I feel a little bit out of control. That's typically the opposite of what everybody says though.

  • @vinceamir7236
    @vinceamir7236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anti for 22 years, new to flat 55mm to 58mm and i love it. But i always have a anti-rocker setup with me. I love the stability of anti-rocker and i love the flat-rocker to be easier on my knee. If i roll im just happy!!!!

  • @EddyReckless
    @EddyReckless 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to slide with flt2 but tried fluid v and i love it.

  • @patrick_jones
    @patrick_jones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stoked to see that 68mm fit on THEM Street Frame. I've been rolling around lately casually on GC HD80s which has been super fun. But then switched back to Dead 58mm/Anti recently for a park session which felt really strange. I tried 50/50 65mm/Anti as well, which felt a bit faster but still nothing like the 80's. Curious if a more bullet profile like the UC/Iqon 68mm might feel good in an anti set up! Thanks for all your experimentation and willingness to share!

    • @Glowtrey
      @Glowtrey ปีที่แล้ว

      Try those Oysi frames ! They are a ROCKERED yes ROCKERED agressive frame with a huge Hblock. They can fit 72mm wheels on the back and front and 60mm wheels in the middle around that Hblock that kind of extend and wrap around the wheels. Those big wheels make it hard for certain types of grind. But it really improve my transitions and stability since I can go faster and still make sharp turns. It helps since Im from big wheels and started agressive skating in my late 20s

  • @JSClark1984
    @JSClark1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video dude. 👍

  • @Dawe957
    @Dawe957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I admire your patience going through all this 🤣

  • @lachlanhayes6364
    @lachlanhayes6364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m going through this now, frame and wheel setup crisis! But I also like experimenting and experiencing different options and gear.
    Great video!

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is fun experimenting and it all boils down to preference. Whatever setup is the most enjoyable for the locations you skate and your personal style.

  • @sweetgoose64
    @sweetgoose64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be really interested in you trying something like the Kaltik v1 flat with 55mm. But understandable that you're back on anti. Great skating!

  • @JFomo
    @JFomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if the the inner wheels could be made out of a different material that didn't bite so much. I'm not sure what that material would be but you could still have a flat set up with less bite.
    Or maybe thinner inner wheels so there'd be less chance of bite but still have a flat ride?

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of people ride harder middle wheels for that reason or they skate tapered wheels. I have tried the harder wheels. If you wax the ledge good bite isn't much of a problem especially for these 55mm 92a UC wheels. It's those dry slow ledges that will get yah.

    • @JD-xo2wz
      @JD-xo2wz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We used to have these little solid UHMW antirocker wheels back in the day, maybe made by Senate? (My old guy brain can't remember) They were faster than the stuff most soul frames were made of, and just killed on fat ledges and coping. I'd be skating anti right now if I could still find some of those wheels... but I'm really a freestyle kinda guy at the end of the day. RIP Senate, SixWonSix, EMAGDNIM, ABLE, Salomon, Xsjado, and all the others.

  • @aBudSmoker22
    @aBudSmoker22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That deep fish had me losing my mind.

  • @JustAnotherBlader
    @JustAnotherBlader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought Create originals were 59mm max on the outside wheel… you fit a 60mm wheel no adjustments?

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      60 totally fine on the large size Create OG with Medium 909 outside wheels only

  • @cbfm4746
    @cbfm4746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We're you using oysi mediums on the pat ridders? I've got the ridders with oysi mediums 65mm outer and 58mm and don't get much wheel bite.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it wasn't wheel bite on the Oysi. It was the hight of the frame for me. They slide amazing! Those are the best bigger wheel flat frames that I have tried.

    • @cbfm4746
      @cbfm4746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jadrollervlog yes I agree. Getting down on royale are like REALLY getting down on royales 😂

  • @tawmifm
    @tawmifm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, could you elaborate on what you meant by the 68mm on the Oysi being "too tall?" I'm considering that setup for my first set of skates and I'm not sure if I want to go through with it. Thank you!

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The frame and wheel combo just felt really high off the ground. When I put 68s on them Street frames it doesn't feel as high.

  • @kcmman9323
    @kcmman9323 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Do people ever use high quality urethane wheels with bearings that are only 5-10 mm smaller than their outside wheels? Why does it have to be such a crappy wheel thats SUCH a difference in size to the outside ones? Cant i find a middle ground? (I have a pair of razor SL cults and am wondering if i can use hard urethane/ bearings with wheels only 5-10 mm smaller than outside ones for my anti rockers)

  • @masterofnone1481
    @masterofnone1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it bad to skate flat frames with an anti rocker setup?

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's an awesome question actually. What frames are we talking about? Honestly whatever gets you the grinds and is most enjoyable to skate!

    • @masterofnone1481
      @masterofnone1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jadrollervlog Kizer Fluid V.
      I’m new, so I’m genuinely curious... I also heard that’s one of the unwritten rules of blading 🤣🤣🤣

  • @sullivandeffinger4970
    @sullivandeffinger4970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sonic wax is so good. Hard to find now tho cuz I think its out of production. Smells like blueberries.

  • @IconML
    @IconML 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like where you live it snows every month of the year..

  • @samolhok930
    @samolhok930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oysi shine on razors with deeper channels making them lower

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhhhhhh great point. I use to have the SL boot. Been wanting to try the shift 2.

  • @chinobean3555
    @chinobean3555 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you Branndon Drummond and Ricardo Lino are all on crack cocaine! all 3 of you have an anti flat rocker videos. i feel like they were all made in a heat of passion lmfaooo

  • @chinobean3555
    @chinobean3555 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i ride both just depends what im skating

  • @maxknuckles13
    @maxknuckles13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It prob shouldn't matter but I've always found big wheel anti setups to just look too goofy

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are kind of goofy looking. A flat setup definitely looks more pleasant.

  • @savvysadventures9950
    @savvysadventures9950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    try aeon 60s best light skate responsive like a carbon

  • @javier5361
    @javier5361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sweet skating

  • @calvinelamparo3936
    @calvinelamparo3936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time i skated flat was in 2005 and i got a wheel bite and got a bruise on my back amd ever since then I prefer anti rockers all the way

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  ปีที่แล้ว

      For grinding it's definitely better and more freeing. I've tried so many flat setups and I always get wheel bite at some point or another. If the ledge is nice and waxed it's not a problem. You have to really wax up your ledge no matter what flat setup you use. Then if you start using setups with a lot of wheel bite protection, The grind area feels too tall in my opinion. To be quite honest the best flat frame I ever used was the them street frame. It felt like a very sweet balance.

  • @kevinkev1530
    @kevinkev1530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid

  • @justjordan8018
    @justjordan8018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh boy Rollerblading has turned in to an Adult Man Hobby. We started collecting garbage and comparing it's size with others online.

  • @FEV369
    @FEV369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol, are all skaters 30+ now?

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we out number 30 - bladers ha ha

  • @shawndecastro8457
    @shawndecastro8457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are anti rocker frames. And when your flat frames get a big groove like that transition them to anti rocker.

  • @jefforta4717
    @jefforta4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm done with flat because of wheel bite. Here's a bunch of clips of me not getting wheel bite riding flat. Every trick you bailed was because you missed, not the setup.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is very true. I wasn't blaming my crashes on wheel bite or flat setups by any means. It was definitely poor skills. But flat messes with my confidence on ledges. That's all. But that's my opinion. Some people feel the exact opposite. Also anti rocker is a little more friendly when it comes to maintenance or if you like to tinker a lot like me.

    • @jefforta4717
      @jefforta4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jadrollervlog I get it, I just thought it was funny. Wheel bite has made me try anti again and I just hate the way it feels. I think you skate great on flat, but I get mental aspect of having confidence in your setup.

  • @johndye6497
    @johndye6497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thing is other than the oysi frames none of these are really good for flat get a fluid v or flt4 would be way ahead to start with

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tried both. Fluid V is great but too tall for me. Honestly THEM frames have been my favorite for flat.

  • @savvysadventures9950
    @savvysadventures9950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sonic wax sucks :0

  • @giovanniamore7532
    @giovanniamore7532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    if ýou can do ýour grinds flat, ýou can do them anti too.. if ýou can do them "onlý" anti, ýou cant do them flat.. that mý friends saýs it all.. 😄

  • @jojebia1648
    @jojebia1648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ok, bye.

    • @jadrollervlog
      @jadrollervlog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait don't go! I promise I'll do the dishes more often!

    • @jojebia1648
      @jojebia1648 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's called a dishwasher :) @@jadrollervlog