Pushing AZ-5 is the SCRAM button. Basically, what that guy just said is he turned his car engine off, and instead of it shutting down, it exploded. That's why she's so shocked.
@@Dobviews I have educated myself. That's how I know it's a simplification for TV. There were no "graphite tips" -- that's simply not a thing. You spent 20 years speaking to nuclear scientists yet you're claiming as definitive the simplified version created for a TV show instead of the actual configuration of the actual RBMK reactor...??? Okay. LOL.
@@Dobviews It's pretty funny that you claim to be such an expert but sent me a link to the health effects (not the topic of discussion) and then natter on endlessly about stuff that is equally irrelevant. You also don't seem to know how to use the internet. "Here... a video from a professor at Illinois explaining it in your limited understanding capacity. Maybe he can break things down into baby talk for you." -- LOL. Condescension doesn't really work when you then FAIL TO PROVIDE the video you refer to, pal. "Graphite tips are NOT used in US reactors. Just like we have containment structures which they did not. Our designs for reactors are completely different from the RBMK reactors." -- cool. Again, not the topic of discussion. That seems to be a real task for you. I hope you have a good editor, or your book is going to be a mess.
@@Dobviews Well done on finding that vlog brothers video! You can use the internet after all! Note how it explains that graphite tips are NOT A THING? Did you catch that? FROM THE VIDEO YOU LINKED TO: "The idea of the "graphite tipped rods" for example is just a simplification for broad audiences." Put that in your book, you belligerent idiot.
Lyudmilla and Vasily were newly weds. They had just gotten back from their honeymoon. My heart broke for her in this episode. I actually read her account and watched her interviews back in college almost 15 years ago... but watching this episode made it more devastating because there is a visual image. I won't condemn her. Love is blind. All the times I taught about Chernobyl in school... I only stuck to the dry and inaccurate details from the text books... and this entire limited miniseries put faces to what I read and taught in books. It made it easy to relate... and painful to connect.
She still kill her daughter for her stupid decisions because of that "blindness", that's unforgettable, you don't need high IQ for that, she did great in real life to help and stuff, but come on!
They toned down the worst of the gore. For example, when Akimow was interviewed for his part in all this he actually had no face any more. Parts of the bones were exposed. In the show we only see the horrified reaction from Khomyuk.
didn't his wife pull off his arm off while trying to lift it up or something like that? that shit is fucking brutal, but even how they show it here it's so fucking awful i can't even begin imagine how fucking awful that would be
@@BlackWACat I think in some interview Mrs. Ignatenko said that when they lifted her husbands arm the skin and muscle stayed on the bed and slipped off the bone. I may be wrong, but I remember reading that somewhere.
I know that authors said in acompanying podcast that they actually tried to film the scene with Akimov, but they decided it was to much, too disrespectful to do.
@@FanEAW Quite right. ARS is not nearly as bad as shown in the show or the overblown rumours mentioned here. I've also seen pictures and, while it's not pretty to look at, you don't turn black. It's a lot of skin lesions and a burnt-like appeareace. Also what this lady says: th-cam.com/video/m1GEPsSVpZY/w-d-xo.html
Jared Harris is one of the most underrated actors today. He's also the son of legendary actor Richard Harris (probably best known in the modern era as the actor who played Dumbledore in the first Harry Potter).
It's important to remember that the people in the USSR routinely had rules inflicted on them that were sometimes completely nonsensical, and they would break those rules if they thought they could get away with it. To Ludmilla, being told not to touch her husband is simply another of these arbitrary rules, without rhyme or reason. No one explains to her what is going on, or why she shouldn't touch her husband, no one even tells her he is going to die. I can't blame her for acting as she did given the circumstances
I didn't realize until I read the book that the plastic bubble is to protect the patients. Their white blood cell count was so low they had effectively no immune system. While some patients had so much cesium in them that they were radioactive, mostly they were more at risk of catching something from healthy people
5:15 you thought they would be in a lot worse shape. That's kind of a weird way that radiation poisoning works. You initially get sick, then you feel fine for a while, then you go downhill again. Depending on your exposure, the time where you feel fine can last from a few days to a few weeks (shorter times for higher exposures). At 6:10 when you think he is getting some sort of treatment, he's just in agony because he is past the part where you feel fine and is now on the downhill phase. As horrific as it is shown on the show, the actual effects are far worse.
@@Dobviews THANK YOU! I'm so tired seeing people believing it's even worst than in the show when the show's depiction of ARS is HUGELY exagerated already... People are so easily impressionable, I tell you.
@@xen0bia I mean, we have wife's written memories and in life it was worse. Like he was coughing out parts of his organs and she was pulling them out from his mouth. Or how she lifted his arm and it was just a bone, the muscles stayed or something.
@@DeathKitta If you are refering to the book Voices from Chernobyl, Lyudmilla Ignatenko does not describe these things happening at all (you can find the passage about it easily online). These fabricated "facts" were added later by unknown sources and people ran wild with them. Lyudmilla was recently interviewed and she completely denied ever having said these things. I'd also trust a medical expert that was also at Chernobyl stating clearly what's seen in the show is not remotely close to what ARS does in real life: th-cam.com/video/m1GEPsSVpZY/w-d-xo.html PS: Even the depiction of the plastic curtains around the irradiated patients as though they are there to protect the medical staff is completely wrong. As severely immunocompromised as the patients are at that stage of ARS, any bacteria can cause a fatal infection. Lyudmilla was in ZERO danger while inside the curtains, however she was a danger to her husband...
@@Dobviews That video is just simply taken before the huge onset of real problems with high dosages of radiation. There is definitely equally horrifying photos of people with the problems that Chernobyl showed. Japan even kept one single person alive just to pretty much see how it affected him, and it wasn't even close to the fotages of your video. It all comes down to what the dosage was, and in some cases in Chernobyl it wasn't really "that bad" while others got a pretty high dose to cause considerable problems with the cells replicating.
My friend's father was a liquidator, they got random assignments and his colleague got stationed in the orange forest (it was in the show, the part of pine forest that got the most contamination) and he died in weeks. The friend's father was ok, but he worked with soil and it left scars on his legs where it got into the boots. Crazy shit.
I am truly thankful for the brave people who had to do this work. They sacrificed their lives so many to live they our heroes and no one should ever forget their sacrifice. When any government lies to their people and doesn't keep them informed and tries to hide the truth that to me is Chernobyl's sad legacy
I was talking about Chernobyl. Not the War. Why are you even bringing that up. Millions died because of Hitler and the soviet union didn't help U.S. with Japan. Oh … I forgot they already got their ass kicked by Japan in early 1900's
Probably tame? Oh, yes - in real life Lyudmilla accidentally pulled Vasily's arm off while trying to help him out of bed and the one operator you didn't get to see interviewed, Alexander Akimov, wasn't shown because when interviewed he had no face or eyes left, his head was just a skull with a tongue in it. His wife had to translate for him during the interview.
“He started to change; every day I met a brand-new person. The burns started to come to the surface. In his mouth, on his tongue, his cheeks - at first there were little lesions, and then they grew. It came off in layers - as white film ... the colour of his face ... his body ... blue, red , grey-brown. He was producing stools 25 to 30 times a day, with blood and mucous. His skin started cracking on his arms and legs. He became covered with boils. When he turned his head, there'd be a clump of hair left on the pillow. I tried joking: "It's convenient, you don't need a comb." Soon they cut all their hair.”
10:07 - Celcius is actually really, really easy to get a basic idea about with two simple facts and a short rhyme: 0 is when water freezes and 100 is the boiling point of water. Rhyme = 30 is hot, 20 is nice, 10 is cold, 0 is ice. 30C is around the average annual temperature of Death Valley, the hottest place on Earth. The hottest temperature ever recorded there was only 7C higher than what the miner reported of 50C. 50C = 122F Now imagine not merely *being* in that temperature but doing hard manual labor _with no ventilation._
22:13 The composer, Hildur Guðnadóttir, created the score using real sounds captured from a decommissioned nuclear power plant in Lithuania where the series was also filmed.
Reason why coal miners were allowed to about flip mid finger even to leader of USSR himself, was due coal miners back in the days kept whole country running. Coal miners get treated badly ~> They riot/go on strike ~> USSR literally stops.
Lyudmilla Ignatenko and her husband had only recently been married and not long returned from their honeymoon, that is the reason that she wanted to hold and touch her husband.. She used to make soup and take it in for the patients. the is a book called 'Voices from Chernobyl'. It is an oral description of Chernobyl and contains a lengthy interview with Lyudmilla. In it she describes having to clear pieces of her husband's lungs and liver from his mouth so that he could breathe! The book is written by Svetlana Alexievich who won the Nobel Prize for literature in 2015. There are exerts from the book on the internet or you can buy the book on Amaon etc.
06:31 I've read that most folks in that era thought radiation was like a bug. You get it, then get better. Ludmilla herself in an interview said she believed her body shielded the baby. Ignorance is rarely bliss in the long run. 08:14 Those aren't spies. They are the Secret Police. Never, ever forget teh Soviet Union was a brutal dictatorship and the KGB's primary target was the Soviet people. 09:46 She helped the Nurses take care of the sick fire fighters, made and fed them soup, etc. They were newlyweds and to this day she still calls him "my Love." 12:40 I love the pride he still has in having earned that very important position at his age. And he deserves that pride. He did nothing wrong. The next episode is going to be brutal.
The two control room guys that the scientist interviewed at the hospital were the two who were ordered by Dyatlov in ep 1 to manually turn the wheels to get water into the nonexistent core. We saw the bad condition one of them was in, but the reason they never showed the other was because he basically had no face by this point.
Fun Fact: The scenes where Legasov was talking to Khomyuk in the KGB jail cell were filmed in what is today a Lithuanian municipal building, but back in the mid-1980s was in fact an actual KGB jail; so the green-colored room in which they were sitting on a bench was indeed once a cell in that building.
Lyudmilla also cared for all the other firefighters while she was there - she hardly ever left, hardly slept. The graphic details of their end are laid out brutally in the book. Tragically, after going home to get three hours of sleep, she called back to the hospital to find she'd missed her husband's passing by 15 minutes. She's more sympathetic in the book because you learn the great care she went through trying to make her husband, and his friends, comfortable as they slowly died. She also expresses some of the precautions they had her take and how scared she was.
4:40 For who didn't study well physics at school. If you have suffered radiation, best thing you can do is drink as much alcohol you can find, preferably wine. It will help your body to defend your DNA.
OMG! people. Stop telling them to be prepared for the next episode or "hey the next one is heavy". Those are Spoilers! I want to see pure reactions and not those "brace yourselfs" or "hold tight to your seat because episode number bla bla is going to be like this and that". They will expect something because you guys told them to expect it.
Exactly. Episode 4 isn't even as bad as everyone is making it out to be. I had all these dumb "warnings" before I watched it and after watching it, I was confused about what everyone else was talking about.
@@TomPreston6 I'm a huge animal lover. Which is why I was fine with the episode, which, with one exception, left it entirely to your imagination. It could have been much much much worse (as it was in reality).
this is NOT about whether you are an animal lover, or an ass--this is about SPOILERS! if you tell a reviewer about the story, (what to be weary of and when to observe it), THAT is a SPOILER! these are not vague spoilers! after E2 someone posted "episode 4 will be one big long cry about dogs"--what were you THINKING??? another comment read, "If the running dog is making you sad, you may want to prepare for Episode 4, it's rough." please recognize that this is a REACTION channel, and whether or not you would have wanted a spoiler before you watched the series, without a camera, because you like animals as much as everyone else does, YOU HAVE FAILED THEM! they want to react honestly--YOU want to see their honest reactions--so PLEASE stop with the spoilers!!! *comment posted after @Dos Cavazos watched E4*
i think the one decision in this show i don't understand is why did they portrayed the minister of coal they way they did Mikhail Shchadov was in his 60's if i'm not wrong, and that man was working in the coal industry (starting as a miner iirc) since he was 15 that man bled and sweated coal, he wasn't just some guy in a suit, he'd probably be the same (not visually ofc, he'd still be wearing a suit or something) as the miners he confronted
Person that studied for and worked in their field extensively for decades explains something. (1k views) Random person on the internet who knows nothing: Nuh uh. Get rekt. (121k views)
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I loved your reactions. I’d love you two react to Netflix series ‘Dark’. It’s a German show, so this might put you off. But trust me, once you’ll watch it, you’ll be glad you didn’t missed this show. Cinematography and sountrack is amazing. And the writing is the best i have ever seen. I love all the details in stories of a characters which at first seems like a small thing but later you understand why they hinted something. It’s very sophisticated show. And i watch tons of TV. It’s the best tv show i have ever seen. Even though 90% of Chernobyl was filmed in my country - Lithuania and the show is amazing, but ‘Dark’ is on it’s own league. I can’t stress enough how awesome it is. It’s realy easy to spoil it, but it’s about small German town and how all characters are conneced through time and secrets. It’s very philosophical and as the name of the show suggest, it’s very Dark, very moody. But it’s not as hard to watch as Chernobyl. It’s not gruesome. It’s very captivating and it’s a little bit of a mindfuck but in a really good way. And it has nuclear factory and references to Chernobyl! It would be a great replacement when you guys will finish Chernobyl! Ever since i saw first episodes of this show on it’s premiere date of December 1st, 2017, i can’t stop thinking about this show and recommending it. It has 2 seasons and total of 18 episodes right now. And the third - last season of 8 episodes will be released in summer. It’s such an underrated show. I’m glad that rotten tomatoes gave second season of ‘Dark’ rating of 100%.
Radiation can definitely mess with electronics & such. It's why computers on the ISS can regularly glitch. You can also see, in the original Chernobyl video footage of the cleaners on the rooftop, some fuzziness in the footage. That wasn't poor film, but the radiation damaging it when they were filming.
I love y'all's commentary. I recently finished this show with a friend, and I like to hear other people's thoughts on it too. It's almost like, just when you think the facts can't get more frightening, a new higher number gets thrown out. More people need to help. More people will suffer. It's hard to believe it really happened.
What's even harder to believe is that we're still letting it happen. Fukushima was another level 7 nuclear disaster not 10 years ago, and we're still building and operating these damned plants.
In reality the ‘divers’ didn’t have a backup flashlight but on the accompanying Chernobyl Podcast (which I really recommend) the writers decided they needed to create a fictional source of light so the viewers could see what was happening. In practice the men knew the layout of the basement by heart and were able to feel their way to the sluice control along various pipelines etc, and found their way out again. And the real miracle is they survived it!
I love this show and I think it's a masterpiece. It's also remarkably accurate. However, its biggest inaccuracy is in this episode. To everyone who reads this comment, including @DosCavazos : radiation doesn't work like this. Radiation isn't a contagious poison or toxin that infects your body and can then jump to someone else. It's extremely powerful energy that your body absorbs, thus damaging that person but then that's it. People who have been exposed to radiation, so long as they've been properly cleaned to remove any traces of the radioactive material to which they've been exposed, do not pose a danger to anyone else. Thinking that you can get radiation poisoning by being near someone who has been irradiated is akin to thinking you can get a sunburn because you're near someone with a sunburn. Now, it is true that people who have been exposed to high levels of radiation do need to be kept in isolation, but that is for their own protection, not for the protection of others. One of the effects of severe radiation exposure is that the patient's immune system is almost completely destroyed. Thus, patients that have acute radiation sickness need to be kept in isolation to ensure they do not get exposed to an opportunistic infection.
Those miners, they were the stoic heroic, tiny bit of comedy relief through the bristley gruff leader the show needed so you didn't just curl up in a ball and give up hope at that point in the series.
it should be noted that it isn't actually possible for Lyudmilla to get radiation sickness from Vasily, and he wasn't contagious to touch. she couldn't touch HIM because he had zero immune system and could die even faster than he was already. there are things the show gets pretty damn wrong, but even then it's one of the more true to life shows ever made.
Hey guys, I love your reactions to this show. A suggestion for the last episode - it has a very interesting and heartbreaking epilogue about the real events that happened after the show ends. I've seen some people reacting to it make a separate video just for the epilogue and I think that's something you should consider. The entire thing is very moving and I'd love to see your full reaction to it.
10:02 "Oh, grose..." You haven't seen anything yet... ;) 13:44 Ok, now you have seen something... :) 14:44 Hahaha 15:52 Aaaww... that reaction. :) 18:39 The end is so beautifully sad...
Lol, just saw the other two videos then refreshed your channel and saw this video pop up. You guys should checkout the podcast that the showrunner did on each episode for supplemental info. For example, the flashlights did go out, and in the real world they actually didn't have any light, and the people just went in by hand and found the right location without any light at all. Obviously you can't really put that in a show, though it would just be a black screen. Also the wife of the firefighter is a real person, she actually did know the risks but stayed at the hospital because she didn't want to leave her husband's side while he was dying.
While I believe Ludmilla had some understanding of the risks, there's no way she had enough information to make an informed decision. The Soviet government would never have allowed such a thing, because otherwise people would start to ask why they're living 3 km from 4 reactors with no containment shells. I in no way mean to diminish her kindness and bravery, but we have to be realistic about how much she could possibly have known and therefore have been responsible for. As to the flashlights, I'm no expert, but I've seen it said that the ionizing radiation made the air conductive, thus draining the batteries on the lights very quickly.
There's another video here on TH-cam called the most radiated man in the world. He was in a similar type of nuclear reaction and got as much ramekins as the firefighters did. What happened was the amount of radiation exploded the DNA so that he had no ability to make new cells. But for the very beginning when he still had the live cells that were active in his body he felt fine. Until there was no new cells to replace the ones that were dying and then all of a sudden his whole entire body decayed while he was still alive. Which is what later happens to the firefighters. It's a really interesting video. They break down moment-by-moment what happened to his body afterwards
Why did you think it was OK to tell them about the three men? If they don't know yet, it's a *spoiler*. Some of you are such assholes, you can't help yourselves and let them find out from the show?
There's a video on youtube from a medical doctor who was involved at the time and she said that the patients in hospital would give off little radiation to visitors and others, once their clothes were off.
You will see everything explained by the end, but the AZ5 button is an automatic shutdown mechanism which plunges all the control rods into the reactor to immediately halt the fission process. It's effectively like the brakes on a car. The next ep is a difficult one to watch, but then again all of it is, it's important to watch it though.
Hi guys.. A bit late to watching you’re reaction to the show Chernobyl.. here is an interesting fact for you,that the Soviet Union believed it was sabotaged by the U.S. some of the conspiracy theories where incredible..
I remember watching the meeting where they planned the liquidation effort and thinking "Everyone at this table is thinking FINALLY. WE CAN JUST THROW BODIES AT THE PROBLEM"
they drink vodka in the whole show not from alcoholism, but because then (and now), people have a strong opinion that vodka removes radiation. Even if this is not true, then people still need something that will reassure them. Thanks for your reaction! besides competent! It’s a pity that I don’t understand English well and there are no subtitles!
9:02 This scene is important because it displays the politics of 80s USSR - the coal miners were an integral part of keeping the Soviet empire running and they were well aware of it. That's why they tell the minister to get knotted; they know that the soldiers can't shoot because then there'd be no one to mine the fuel for the state.
Great reaction! Do not worry...all of your questions will be answered by the show's end. On a separate note: Do prepare yourselves for the next episode. Love ya! :)
to be fair with the pregnant lady, her husband was not 'radioactively contagious' when she visits him. Doctors did indeed advise against contact with patients, but it was for the sake of the patients themselves. Their immune systems were damaged by the radiation, leaving them vulnerable to infection. Implying that radiation victims are contagious and dangerous to be around is one of the few details this show gets wrong.
@Ross Cockburn i’m not trying to argue with you, i just have a question. i’ll try to ask in a way that doesn’t spoil anything for our lovely reaction couple. if the victims of the radiation aren’t “contagious”, then how was a certain character in the show exposed strongly enough to kill their passenger? was it from the basement clothes?
@@chance757 They were in close proximity to Chernobyl for days. A LOT of people all throughout the Ukraine have developed cancer in the years following this.
I read the same in the damage control articles which came out after the show had been released. This is an argument straight from the nuclear lobby PR. These guys had for all intents and purposes been working inside a reactor. There were enough fission products in their bodies that they indeed were a danger to the bystander, especially the pregnant bystander. And this is not the only incident. In the reports regarding the latest Russian nuclear accident last year, one of the doctors mentioned a safety engineer who checked radiation levels inside a hospital operating room where one of the victims was prepared for surgery. When she saw the results of the measurement, she immediately ran out of the room. The guy's body was effectively highly radioactive nuclear waste. He died within hours.
The victims themselves were radioactive. Each of them, especially the firefighters, absorbed well over 10 greys of radiation. At such levels, many of their atoms would've been ionized. Not only that, they would've inhaled particles of uranium, cobalt, and cesium, making their lungs, mucus filled sacks of radioactive dust. Many would've been radiating a few dozen millisieverts of ionizing radiation. For reference, look up the modem day captured and studied animals of the chernobyl area, many of which preserved skin, continues to be radioactive.
I had an employee he was a traffic police captain and he was conscripted to Chernobyl - he was lucky he was on a checkpoint of out radius Expulsion Zone. And I have a friend he was a 3 years old kid in Chernobyl.
I remember reading online (last year, when the show was launched) that the russian press lauched the "news" that this accident was provocked by CIA saboteurs. WOW!!!
The AZ-5 button is the emergency shutdown button that automatically re-inserts all the control rods to stop the nuclear fission and shutdown the reactor. So, in "theory", they believe there is no way the AZ-5 button could have caused the explosion because that is the exact opposite of what that button is designed to do. However, as you saw, the operators were adamant that they pressed the button and then it exploded. The mystery deepens.
After the men were buried, the firefighters were treated as heroes, but the operators were villianized by the state. All of the grave stones of the operators were desecrated except for Tuptunov because he was so young. Watching the cement truck show up ripped me apart. It just felt like such a blow to already grieving people. I've studied Chernobyl for years, since I was in high school in the mid 90's. Best book I can recommend id The Truth About Chernobyl that was written by Gregory Medvedev, one of the team leaders during the whole ordeal. It's a very detailed book and really helps you understand not only what was going on with the reactor and the localized events, but also the political aspects. The epilogue of this show is beautiful, but it will wrench what's left of your emotions from you
TripleViktor the reason for the cement truck was because they essentially became nuclear waste they absorbed 24 Sieverts of radiation each the red forest absorbed twelve total that should give you an example of how radioactive their bodies are
The touching thing is actually fine. The firemen obviously took a shower or were washed down by the nurses/doctors. It was an issue back in the days, where people mistakenly believed that you can receive second-hand radiation, which isn't true. Kids who moved from Pripyat to Moskow were ostracised and feared because they might have carried radiation within their body.
The divers; The lights went out because the equipment was ill-maintained. The Backup lights were the same ones used by Miners. The dry suits they were wearing offered much better protection from the water. Most Alphas and Betas are stopped by clothing... these were thick rubber suits... and they never touched the contaminated water. Those three men actually survived... one died in 2002, the other two are still alive today.
loved you guys' reactions to the show and i felt the exact same way! except i had little to no knowledge of the event before watching. i just knew about the explosion. Also...i see that Spurs gear! GO SPURS GO!
Fact check: Excellent series but the Minister of Coal Industries Shadov was not an arrogant party snag as shown, nor did he blindly order miners to Chernobyl, he himself was a coal miner for decades and was universally adored by coal miners, oil rig workers throughout the USSR. He held midnight meetings with the trade unions and informed them of the risks involved, many preferred not to go. No one was forced. He was often seen hugging coal miners in his minesterial outfit even b4 Chernobyl. When asked by a secretary as to why he was he fond of hugging miners cover in dirt, he replied "I had dirt on me for decades in these mines, that is where you and I will return to one day, might as well embrace dirt before it embraces us".
What's really satisfying about this amazing show is that all the questions you guys were asking yourselves right here WILL BE ANSWERED! So I feel really happy for you, that you ask yourself the right questions & knowing the show will answer it. Most of it in the final episode. But first you must get ready for episode 4 & I heard you guys have a dog. Maybe you wanna bring tissues & a pillow to hug.
This show was so well done. I'm usually a pretty stoic person, devoid of any emotion, and not much gets to this cold dark place I call a heart, but this series hit me right in the feels, several times.
Dying batteries seems plausible. Old type accumulators internal structure is like a cake - multiple layers of metallic foil separated with insulating material. High energy particles can penetrate and rupture insulating layers thus creating a channel for discharge. If that happened I would assume their accumulators were very hot. P. S. Sorry for "not the best" English :)
*yeah, disturbingly enough, the hospital scene got watered down! In real life, when his arm was picked up, the bone went up but the skin stayed on the bed... like, it’s just...yknow... and I had a friend/neighbour as a kid and they were from Lithuania which is even closer than I was (Romania), and her brother was born blind but healthy otherwise, which thank God for that! But let’s hope it gets better for those still suffering from it and that this never happens again!*
Just found you guys, The main reason for the accident was their reactors are not as good as ours in the west ( don't want to spoil main reason ) . The men and women that did the work are true heroes saving millions . I enjoyed your reactions to this series so far
Greetings from Latvia!!! ;) Chernoby was the main reason for the collapse of the Soviet Union. Because almost all the funds went for liquidation of consequences.
It is important to know, that it wont affect you, if you are close to a person which suffers from radiation poisining, they reason why doctors and others belive that is, that the simple didnt knew it better, especially after the explosion, because all books about radiation, and power plants were removed from all places over the soviet union. Kids which were taken away from their homes, because they were in the exclusion zone, came to families in the east of the soviet union, but people were afraid of them so they closed them away, so they wouldnt need to touch them. In fact, it doesnt matter if you touch someone who suffers from radiation poisining, because it cant spread to others.
The main thesis of socialism is "state for the people". It's main criticism of the west was our alleged people for the state mentality. Every western state: "save the people" Soviet state: "save our image, forget about the people" Also the soviet state: "do it for money, we don't tell you why" soviet people: "save your money, we do it for the 'why', because it must be done" The soviet state (as the GDR and the thrid reich) acted like it made it's people great, when in fact the soviet people held up the wrongest stateform in modern history for decades. The fall of the soviet union was predestined from the moment it was founded. The ideology is wrong in it's core, it was just delayed by the strong people who lived there long before and still remain after it's fall. The same was true for the two attempts to force a socialist state form in Germany.
Next 2 episode will be more exciting, cos we just saw the aftermath and sad stuff... And brace yourselves not only good episodes are coming but marvelous acting too
Everything about miners is deceitful except for the tablet. We drove voluntarily, the minister came to Chernobyl already. The deputy minister was constantly there while dripping. The minister was very respected among the miners. And in general in the series there are a lot of lies.
Yeah in Sweden we can't eat some of the boar, for example. They have to be checked for cesium-137 before being consumed. A lingering result from Chernobyl.
She just loves her husband... actually these people weren't toxic. The radio active dust is radio active thats in the air, and the radio activity that is spewing from that place, but the sick people aren't toxic. That was misinformation in that time. These shoot the dogs because they were afraid they were toxic. The firemen could not be touched but thats not the reason her baby died. The baby could have died because of many reasons, but she was in Chernobyl when it exploded. She already was surrounded by radiation before even touching her husband. That would be more a reason or the stress. Her baby wasn't born dead... it lived for 4 hours. Which can be a cause of a lot of things. Even my aunt her baby was born dead and there not a single radiation. So I would say her baby didn't die because she touched her husband... her baby more likely died of stress or because she was in Pripyat when Chernobyl exploded. She got radiation too just like everyone there. That is toxic not her husband. But of course there are many more reasons a baby could die, like smoking, drinking alcohol which in Russia is also happening. Also babies can be born dead or live for a short time because they have something wrong with them that can happen always even without radiation.
None of the people knew what they were getting into or how deadly and bad this was. We still are finding out more about how bad it is. The devastation of this accident can not only be measured in death alone, but in hundreds of years of mutations.
The portrayal of coal minister Shadov was sadly one of the inaccuracies of this otherwise great mini series. By most accounts the real minister Shadov was well respected by soviet coal miners.
when u said it was tame on how those people in the hospital looked, you were right, i think a decade later? accident at a japan one & 1 worker pretty much had the same thing, if i recall right he actually lived 2 months? (but how he looked, i kinda think he prob wished he wasn't) anyway, there were actual pictures of what happened to him & was gross and far worse
It didn’t matter who you were.. no one, NO ONE in the Soviet Union, fucks with miners. The miners were seen as more manly than the hardest of soldiers. Miners were untouchables, pure badasses
My Grandfather was almost sent to Chernobyl Also I have to add, most scenes are believable and a realistic portrayal of people and that time except the Coal minister. People in the Soviet Union had upmost respect for each other. They went completely voluntary because it had to be done.
Pushing AZ-5 is the SCRAM button. Basically, what that guy just said is he turned his car engine off, and instead of it shutting down, it exploded. That's why she's so shocked.
@@Dobviews don't fucking spoil things that are explained later
@@Dobviews The whole "control rods have graphite tips" thing is a simplification they made for the TV show. That's not what actually happened.
@@Dobviews I have educated myself. That's how I know it's a simplification for TV. There were no "graphite tips" -- that's simply not a thing. You spent 20 years speaking to nuclear scientists yet you're claiming as definitive the simplified version created for a TV show instead of the actual configuration of the actual RBMK reactor...??? Okay. LOL.
@@Dobviews It's pretty funny that you claim to be such an expert but sent me a link to the health effects (not the topic of discussion) and then natter on endlessly about stuff that is equally irrelevant. You also don't seem to know how to use the internet.
"Here... a video from a professor at Illinois explaining it in your limited understanding capacity. Maybe he can break things down into baby talk for you." -- LOL. Condescension doesn't really work when you then FAIL TO PROVIDE the video you refer to, pal.
"Graphite tips are NOT used in US reactors. Just like we have containment structures which they did not. Our designs for reactors are completely different from the RBMK reactors." -- cool. Again, not the topic of discussion. That seems to be a real task for you. I hope you have a good editor, or your book is going to be a mess.
@@Dobviews Well done on finding that vlog brothers video! You can use the internet after all! Note how it explains that graphite tips are NOT A THING? Did you catch that? FROM THE VIDEO YOU LINKED TO: "The idea of the "graphite tipped rods" for example is just a simplification for broad audiences."
Put that in your book, you belligerent idiot.
The wife actually looked after lots of the dying fire fighters because there was not enough nurses. Bless her.
It was indeed way toned down.
Ludmilla describes what happened to her husband in graphic detail. Including him coughing up his organs.
And accidentally pulling his arm off.
Wow damn, I'd rather be dead
i hope someone spares a bullet for me if i'm ever in his position
F u c k that id rather be shot instead to experience that.
How Lyudmilla's husband died is explained in GRAPHIC detain in voices from Chernobyl
Lyudmilla and Vasily were newly weds. They had just gotten back from their honeymoon. My heart broke for her in this episode. I actually read her account and watched her interviews back in college almost 15 years ago... but watching this episode made it more devastating because there is a visual image. I won't condemn her. Love is blind. All the times I taught about Chernobyl in school... I only stuck to the dry and inaccurate details from the text books... and this entire limited miniseries put faces to what I read and taught in books. It made it easy to relate... and painful to connect.
She still kill her daughter for her stupid decisions because of that "blindness", that's unforgettable, you don't need high IQ for that, she did great in real life to help and stuff, but come on!
They toned down the worst of the gore. For example, when Akimow was interviewed for his part in all this he actually had no face any more. Parts of the bones were exposed. In the show we only see the horrified reaction from Khomyuk.
didn't his wife pull off his arm off while trying to lift it up or something like that?
that shit is fucking brutal, but even how they show it here it's so fucking awful
i can't even begin imagine how fucking awful that would be
@@BlackWACat I think in some interview Mrs. Ignatenko said that when they lifted her husbands arm the skin and muscle stayed on the bed and slipped off the bone. I may be wrong, but I remember reading that somewhere.
I know that authors said in acompanying podcast that they actually tried to film the scene with Akimov, but they decided it was to much, too disrespectful to do.
medicallly and historically thats is not true.
@@FanEAW Quite right. ARS is not nearly as bad as shown in the show or the overblown rumours mentioned here. I've also seen pictures and, while it's not pretty to look at, you don't turn black. It's a lot of skin lesions and a burnt-like appeareace.
Also what this lady says: th-cam.com/video/m1GEPsSVpZY/w-d-xo.html
Jared Harris is one of the most underrated actors today. He's also the son of legendary actor Richard Harris (probably best known in the modern era as the actor who played Dumbledore in the first Harry Potter).
I didnt even knew about this actor and now i Love him.
@@VahisMX he is just as good in the Fringe tv series!!!
@@bernhardtsen74 Yes! Fringe.
I had no idea he was Richard Harris's son
He was the main villain Professor Moriarty in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows. A big movie with Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law.
It's important to remember that the people in the USSR routinely had rules inflicted on them that were sometimes completely nonsensical, and they would break those rules if they thought they could get away with it. To Ludmilla, being told not to touch her husband is simply another of these arbitrary rules, without rhyme or reason. No one explains to her what is going on, or why she shouldn't touch her husband, no one even tells her he is going to die. I can't blame her for acting as she did given the circumstances
Her fetus acted like a radiation filter. It soaked up all the rads, which kept her from dying
@@Ry-ss5dz Both of you are wrong. I hope you know it by now.
A suggestion for the fifth and last episode - there's a 7 minute epilogue at the end that you could do a separate reaction video to.
I second this.
Yes this is a must.
The series end part of the real things that happened is the most beautiful part of the series. :)
There from the KGB the Soviet version of the CIA
Every man and women that helped contain this were and are heroes of all countries
I didn't realize until I read the book that the plastic bubble is to protect the patients. Their white blood cell count was so low they had effectively no immune system. While some patients had so much cesium in them that they were radioactive, mostly they were more at risk of catching something from healthy people
"He doesn't even look like a person."
At that point, on the genetic level, he could no longer be scientifically classified as human.
MJR Taurus “he’s my husband.”
“Not anymore. He’s something else now”
How do you "scientifically classify" someone as human?
Featherless biped?
5:15 you thought they would be in a lot worse shape. That's kind of a weird way that radiation poisoning works. You initially get sick, then you feel fine for a while, then you go downhill again. Depending on your exposure, the time where you feel fine can last from a few days to a few weeks (shorter times for higher exposures). At 6:10 when you think he is getting some sort of treatment, he's just in agony because he is past the part where you feel fine and is now on the downhill phase. As horrific as it is shown on the show, the actual effects are far worse.
he was liquefying alive
@@Dobviews THANK YOU! I'm so tired seeing people believing it's even worst than in the show when the show's depiction of ARS is HUGELY exagerated already... People are so easily impressionable, I tell you.
@@xen0bia I mean, we have wife's written memories and in life it was worse. Like he was coughing out parts of his organs and she was pulling them out from his mouth. Or how she lifted his arm and it was just a bone, the muscles stayed or something.
@@DeathKitta If you are refering to the book Voices from Chernobyl, Lyudmilla Ignatenko does not describe these things happening at all (you can find the passage about it easily online). These fabricated "facts" were added later by unknown sources and people ran wild with them. Lyudmilla was recently interviewed and she completely denied ever having said these things. I'd also trust a medical expert that was also at Chernobyl stating clearly what's seen in the show is not remotely close to what ARS does in real life: th-cam.com/video/m1GEPsSVpZY/w-d-xo.html
PS: Even the depiction of the plastic curtains around the irradiated patients as though they are there to protect the medical staff is completely wrong. As severely immunocompromised as the patients are at that stage of ARS, any bacteria can cause a fatal infection. Lyudmilla was in ZERO danger while inside the curtains, however she was a danger to her husband...
@@Dobviews That video is just simply taken before the huge onset of real problems with high dosages of radiation. There is definitely equally horrifying photos of people with the problems that Chernobyl showed. Japan even kept one single person alive just to pretty much see how it affected him, and it wasn't even close to the fotages of your video. It all comes down to what the dosage was, and in some cases in Chernobyl it wasn't really "that bad" while others got a pretty high dose to cause considerable problems with the cells replicating.
My friend's father was a liquidator, they got random assignments and his colleague got stationed in the orange forest (it was in the show, the part of pine forest that got the most contamination) and he died in weeks. The friend's father was ok, but he worked with soil and it left scars on his legs where it got into the boots. Crazy shit.
I am truly thankful for the brave people who had to do this work. They sacrificed their lives so many to live they our heroes and no one should ever forget their sacrifice. When any government lies to their people and doesn't keep them informed and tries to hide the truth that to me is Chernobyl's sad legacy
@@kevinterrell47 Ohh wait soviet Union lost 27 000 000 to free world from Nazi and guess what ? You are all trying to forget it...
I was talking about Chernobyl. Not the War. Why are you even bringing that up. Millions died because of Hitler and the soviet union didn't help U.S. with Japan. Oh … I forgot they already got their ass kicked by Japan in early 1900's
@@kevinterrell47So you don't care about 27 million dead beacause they didn't help US with Japan? N**ga what?
Probably tame? Oh, yes - in real life Lyudmilla accidentally pulled Vasily's arm off while trying to help him out of bed and the one operator you didn't get to see interviewed, Alexander Akimov, wasn't shown because when interviewed he had no face or eyes left, his head was just a skull with a tongue in it. His wife had to translate for him during the interview.
They shot some of it for the show (Vasiliy caughing up parts of his liquified lungs) and decided it was too gruesome to show.
Does anyone have a link to an article about this? Im looking for it but cant find anything about his arm being pulled off. That seems horrifying.
@@monahands Most of this stuff from the miniseries was taken from a book called Voices from Chernobyl by author Svetlana Alexievich.
@@zammmerjammer Which is 20 years old and many things in it have been disproven.
@@monahands Not his arm. The skin on his arm.
“He started to change; every day I met a brand-new person. The burns started to come to the surface. In his mouth, on his tongue, his cheeks - at first there were little lesions, and then they grew. It came off in layers - as white film ... the colour of his face ... his body ... blue, red , grey-brown. He was producing stools 25 to 30 times a day, with blood and mucous. His skin started cracking on his arms and legs. He became covered with boils. When he turned his head, there'd be a clump of hair left on the pillow. I tried joking: "It's convenient, you don't need a comb." Soon they cut all their hair.”
Voices From Chernobyl... Horrifying real life accounts
In 1979 there was a partial meltdown in Pennsylvania called The Three Mile Island.
7:50 "Why the hell are they not gone?"
They're KGB, nobody's going to risk getting shot trying to tell them to go
10:07 - Celcius is actually really, really easy to get a basic idea about with two simple facts and a short rhyme:
0 is when water freezes and 100 is the boiling point of water.
Rhyme = 30 is hot, 20 is nice, 10 is cold, 0 is ice.
30C is around the average annual temperature of Death Valley, the hottest place on Earth. The hottest temperature ever recorded there was only 7C higher than what the miner reported of 50C.
50C = 122F
Now imagine not merely *being* in that temperature but doing hard manual labor _with no ventilation._
22:13 The composer, Hildur Guðnadóttir, created the score using real sounds captured from a decommissioned nuclear power plant in Lithuania where the series was also filmed.
Reason why coal miners were allowed to about flip mid finger even to leader of USSR himself, was due coal miners back in the days kept whole country running.
Coal miners get treated badly ~> They riot/go on strike ~> USSR literally stops.
Fun note: They actually used an active nuclear reactor to make some of the music for the series!
That static-like noise that indicates radiation has become a terrifying sound to me, especially after watching this series.
Lyudmilla Ignatenko and her husband had only recently been married and not long returned from their honeymoon, that is the reason that she wanted to hold and touch her husband.. She used to make soup and take it in for the patients. the is a book called 'Voices from Chernobyl'. It is an oral description of Chernobyl and contains a lengthy interview with Lyudmilla. In it she describes having to clear pieces of her husband's lungs and liver from his mouth so that he could breathe! The book is written by Svetlana Alexievich who won the Nobel Prize for literature in 2015. There are exerts from the book on the internet or you can buy the book on Amaon etc.
There's an epilogue at the end of the last episode. Please don't leave it out of your reaction!
06:31 I've read that most folks in that era thought radiation was like a bug. You get it, then get better. Ludmilla herself in an interview said she believed her body shielded the baby. Ignorance is rarely bliss in the long run. 08:14 Those aren't spies. They are the Secret Police. Never, ever forget teh Soviet Union was a brutal dictatorship and the KGB's primary target was the Soviet people. 09:46 She helped the Nurses take care of the sick fire fighters, made and fed them soup, etc. They were newlyweds and to this day she still calls him "my Love." 12:40 I love the pride he still has in having earned that very important position at his age. And he deserves that pride. He did nothing wrong.
The next episode is going to be brutal.
The two control room guys that the scientist interviewed at the hospital were the two who were ordered by Dyatlov in ep 1 to manually turn the wheels to get water into the nonexistent core. We saw the bad condition one of them was in, but the reason they never showed the other was because he basically had no face by this point.
Fun Fact: The scenes where Legasov was talking to Khomyuk in the KGB jail cell were filmed in what is today a Lithuanian municipal building, but back in the mid-1980s was in fact an actual KGB jail; so the green-colored room in which they were sitting on a bench was indeed once a cell in that building.
Lyudmilla also cared for all the other firefighters while she was there - she hardly ever left, hardly slept. The graphic details of their end are laid out brutally in the book. Tragically, after going home to get three hours of sleep, she called back to the hospital to find she'd missed her husband's passing by 15 minutes. She's more sympathetic in the book because you learn the great care she went through trying to make her husband, and his friends, comfortable as they slowly died. She also expresses some of the precautions they had her take and how scared she was.
4:40 For who didn't study well physics at school. If you have suffered radiation, best thing you can do is drink as much alcohol you can find, preferably wine. It will help your body to defend your DNA.
OMG! people. Stop telling them to be prepared for the next episode or "hey the next one is heavy". Those are Spoilers! I want to see pure reactions and not those "brace yourselfs" or "hold tight to your seat because episode number bla bla is going to be like this and that". They will expect something because you guys told them to expect it.
Exactly. Episode 4 isn't even as bad as everyone is making it out to be. I had all these dumb "warnings" before I watched it and after watching it, I was confused about what everyone else was talking about.
@@TomPreston6 The next episode is not in the least bit graphic. It's all implied. It's about as hard to watch as Bambi, ffs.
@@TomPreston6 I'm a huge animal lover. Which is why I was fine with the episode, which, with one exception, left it entirely to your imagination. It could have been much much much worse (as it was in reality).
this is NOT about whether you are an animal lover, or an ass--this is about SPOILERS! if you tell a reviewer about the story, (what to be weary of and when to observe it), THAT is a SPOILER! these are not vague spoilers! after E2 someone posted "episode 4 will be one big long cry about dogs"--what were you THINKING??? another comment read, "If the running dog is making you sad, you may want to prepare for Episode 4, it's rough." please recognize that this is a REACTION channel, and whether or not you would have wanted a spoiler before you watched the series, without a camera, because you like animals as much as everyone else does, YOU HAVE FAILED THEM! they want to react honestly--YOU want to see their honest reactions--so PLEASE stop with the spoilers!!! *comment posted after @Dos Cavazos watched E4*
@@evilchipmunk4090 exactly!
i think the one decision in this show i don't understand is why did they portrayed the minister of coal they way they did
Mikhail Shchadov was in his 60's if i'm not wrong, and that man was working in the coal industry (starting as a miner iirc) since he was 15
that man bled and sweated coal, he wasn't just some guy in a suit, he'd probably be the same (not visually ofc, he'd still be wearing a suit or something) as the miners he confronted
Absolutely loving the commentary during your reactions. Such a powerful series!!
"Why won't they listen to the scientists, experts?"
Pretty relevant to this day, sadly...
Person that studied for and worked in their field extensively for decades explains something. (1k views)
Random person on the internet who knows nothing: Nuh uh. Get rekt. (121k views)
I loved your reactions. I’d love you two react to Netflix series ‘Dark’. It’s a German show, so this might put you off. But trust me, once you’ll watch it, you’ll be glad you didn’t missed this show. Cinematography and sountrack is amazing. And the writing is the best i have ever seen. I love all the details in stories of a characters which at first seems like a small thing but later you understand why they hinted something. It’s very sophisticated show. And i watch tons of TV. It’s the best tv show i have ever seen. Even though 90% of Chernobyl was filmed in my country - Lithuania and the show is amazing, but ‘Dark’ is on it’s own league. I can’t stress enough how awesome it is. It’s realy easy to spoil it, but it’s about small German town and how all characters are conneced through time and secrets. It’s very philosophical and as the name of the show suggest, it’s very Dark, very moody. But it’s not as hard to watch as Chernobyl. It’s not gruesome. It’s very captivating and it’s a little bit of a mindfuck but in a really good way. And it has nuclear factory and references to Chernobyl! It would be a great replacement when you guys will finish Chernobyl! Ever since i saw first episodes of this show on it’s premiere date of December 1st, 2017, i can’t stop thinking about this show and recommending it. It has 2 seasons and total of 18 episodes right now. And the third - last season of 8 episodes will be released in summer. It’s such an underrated show. I’m glad that rotten tomatoes gave second season of ‘Dark’ rating of 100%.
Radiation can definitely mess with electronics & such. It's why computers on the ISS can regularly glitch.
You can also see, in the original Chernobyl video footage of the cleaners on the rooftop, some fuzziness in the footage. That wasn't poor film, but the radiation damaging it when they were filming.
I love y'all's commentary. I recently finished this show with a friend, and I like to hear other people's thoughts on it too. It's almost like, just when you think the facts can't get more frightening, a new higher number gets thrown out. More people need to help. More people will suffer. It's hard to believe it really happened.
What's even harder to believe is that we're still letting it happen. Fukushima was another level 7 nuclear disaster not 10 years ago, and we're still building and operating these damned plants.
In reality the ‘divers’ didn’t have a backup flashlight but on the accompanying Chernobyl Podcast (which I really recommend) the writers decided they needed to create a fictional source of light so the viewers could see what was happening. In practice the men knew the layout of the basement by heart and were able to feel their way to the sluice control along various pipelines etc, and found their way out again. And the real miracle is they survived it!
I love this show and I think it's a masterpiece. It's also remarkably accurate. However, its biggest inaccuracy is in this episode.
To everyone who reads this comment, including @DosCavazos : radiation doesn't work like this. Radiation isn't a contagious poison or toxin that infects your body and can then jump to someone else. It's extremely powerful energy that your body absorbs, thus damaging that person but then that's it. People who have been exposed to radiation, so long as they've been properly cleaned to remove any traces of the radioactive material to which they've been exposed, do not pose a danger to anyone else. Thinking that you can get radiation poisoning by being near someone who has been irradiated is akin to thinking you can get a sunburn because you're near someone with a sunburn.
Now, it is true that people who have been exposed to high levels of radiation do need to be kept in isolation, but that is for their own protection, not for the protection of others. One of the effects of severe radiation exposure is that the patient's immune system is almost completely destroyed. Thus, patients that have acute radiation sickness need to be kept in isolation to ensure they do not get exposed to an opportunistic infection.
I came looking to see if this had been pointed out yet :)
For all that they did so well, I don't know why they did a handful of things so poorly.
Yes, you are correct. It is easy to get fooled by this when you watch the show.
15:56 i never noticed that detail with the guy putting the water bottle afar because it might be contaminated
You guys really fill each other out, I really liked seeing how you two work together
Those miners, they were the stoic heroic, tiny bit of comedy relief through the bristley gruff leader the show needed so you didn't just curl up in a ball and give up hope at that point in the series.
it should be noted that it isn't actually possible for Lyudmilla to get radiation sickness from Vasily, and he wasn't contagious to touch. she couldn't touch HIM because he had zero immune system and could die even faster than he was already. there are things the show gets pretty damn wrong, but even then it's one of the more true to life shows ever made.
Hey guys, I love your reactions to this show. A suggestion for the last episode - it has a very interesting and heartbreaking epilogue about the real events that happened after the show ends. I've seen some people reacting to it make a separate video just for the epilogue and I think that's something you should consider. The entire thing is very moving and I'd love to see your full reaction to it.
Agree.
10:02 "Oh, grose..." You haven't seen anything yet... ;) 13:44 Ok, now you have seen something... :)
14:44 Hahaha
15:52 Aaaww... that reaction. :)
18:39 The end is so beautifully sad...
Lol, just saw the other two videos then refreshed your channel and saw this video pop up. You guys should checkout the podcast that the showrunner did on each episode for supplemental info. For example, the flashlights did go out, and in the real world they actually didn't have any light, and the people just went in by hand and found the right location without any light at all. Obviously you can't really put that in a show, though it would just be a black screen. Also the wife of the firefighter is a real person, she actually did know the risks but stayed at the hospital because she didn't want to leave her husband's side while he was dying.
While I believe Ludmilla had some understanding of the risks, there's no way she had enough information to make an informed decision. The Soviet government would never have allowed such a thing, because otherwise people would start to ask why they're living 3 km from 4 reactors with no containment shells. I in no way mean to diminish her kindness and bravery, but we have to be realistic about how much she could possibly have known and therefore have been responsible for.
As to the flashlights, I'm no expert, but I've seen it said that the ionizing radiation made the air conductive, thus draining the batteries on the lights very quickly.
There's another video here on TH-cam called the most radiated man in the world. He was in a similar type of nuclear reaction and got as much ramekins as the firefighters did. What happened was the amount of radiation exploded the DNA so that he had no ability to make new cells. But for the very beginning when he still had the live cells that were active in his body he felt fine. Until there was no new cells to replace the ones that were dying and then all of a sudden his whole entire body decayed while he was still alive. Which is what later happens to the firefighters.
It's a really interesting video. They break down moment-by-moment what happened to his body afterwards
you are correct, they toned down the effects of radiation significantly, the actual events are pretty horrific.
Spoiler much?
Why did you think it was OK to tell them about the three men? If they don't know yet, it's a *spoiler*. Some of you are such assholes, you can't help yourselves and let them find out from the show?
I forgot that was covered in the epilogue I was just trying to add something I thought the show skipped over.
Toned down in some places, exaggerated in others. The burns in the first episode did not appear that quickly.
There's a video on youtube from a medical doctor who was involved at the time and she said that the patients in hospital would give off little radiation to visitors and others, once their clothes were off.
You will see everything explained by the end, but the AZ5 button is an automatic shutdown mechanism which plunges all the control rods into the reactor to immediately halt the fission process. It's effectively like the brakes on a car. The next ep is a difficult one to watch, but then again all of it is, it's important to watch it though.
The firefighers were buried with their uniform and the firefigher's wife was holding the shoes because their feet got so swollen due to radiation. :'(
Hi guys.. A bit late to watching you’re reaction to the show Chernobyl.. here is an interesting fact for you,that the Soviet Union believed it was sabotaged by the U.S. some of the conspiracy theories where incredible..
I remember watching the meeting where they planned the liquidation effort and thinking "Everyone at this table is thinking FINALLY. WE CAN JUST THROW BODIES AT THE PROBLEM"
Hoo boy if this episode is rough then episode 4 is gonna kill you guys. Be very prepared. Get tissues
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they drink vodka in the whole show not from alcoholism, but because then (and now), people have a strong opinion that vodka removes radiation. Even if this is not true, then people still need something that will reassure them. Thanks for your reaction! besides competent! It’s a pity that I don’t understand English well and there are no subtitles!
9:02 This scene is important because it displays the politics of 80s USSR - the coal miners were an integral part of keeping the Soviet empire running and they were well aware of it. That's why they tell the minister to get knotted; they know that the soldiers can't shoot because then there'd be no one to mine the fuel for the state.
Great reaction! Do not worry...all of your questions will be answered by the show's end. On a separate note: Do prepare yourselves for the next episode. Love ya! :)
I appreciate how much you appreciate how well done this series is, all questions to be answered in next 2 episodes :)
to be fair with the pregnant lady, her husband was not 'radioactively contagious' when she visits him. Doctors did indeed advise against contact with patients, but it was for the sake of the patients themselves. Their immune systems were damaged by the radiation, leaving them vulnerable to infection. Implying that radiation victims are contagious and dangerous to be around is one of the few details this show gets wrong.
@Ross Cockburn i’m not trying to argue with you, i just have a question. i’ll try to ask in a way that doesn’t spoil anything for our lovely reaction couple.
if the victims of the radiation aren’t “contagious”, then how was a certain character in the show exposed strongly enough to kill their passenger? was it from the basement clothes?
@@chance757 They were in close proximity to Chernobyl for days. A LOT of people all throughout the Ukraine have developed cancer in the years following this.
@Zach Hershman right, from the proximity! of course! that makes sense lol thanks!
I read the same in the damage control articles which came out after the show had been released. This is an argument straight from the nuclear lobby PR. These guys had for all intents and purposes been working inside a reactor. There were enough fission products in their bodies that they indeed were a danger to the bystander, especially the pregnant bystander. And this is not the only incident. In the reports regarding the latest Russian nuclear accident last year, one of the doctors mentioned a safety engineer who checked radiation levels inside a hospital operating room where one of the victims was prepared for surgery. When she saw the results of the measurement, she immediately ran out of the room. The guy's body was effectively highly radioactive nuclear waste. He died within hours.
The victims themselves were radioactive. Each of them, especially the firefighters, absorbed well over 10 greys of radiation. At such levels, many of their atoms would've been ionized. Not only that, they would've inhaled particles of uranium, cobalt, and cesium, making their lungs, mucus filled sacks of radioactive dust. Many would've been radiating a few dozen millisieverts of ionizing radiation. For reference, look up the modem day captured and studied animals of the chernobyl area, many of which preserved skin, continues to be radioactive.
I always find it interesting that he mentions Plutonium. Cuz it’s uranium they’re using. I-235 has a half-life of 4.5 billion years
I had an employee he was a traffic police captain and he was conscripted to Chernobyl - he was lucky he was on a checkpoint of out radius Expulsion Zone. And I have a friend he was a 3 years old kid in Chernobyl.
The reason the wife was holding the shoes was because she picked them for him to be buried in, but his feet were so messed up he couldn't fit them.
@8:13 - "Why are they spying on them?" They are KGB - the answer will come at the end of the series (episode 5).
The music really is another main character of this show.....
I remember reading online (last year, when the show was launched) that the russian press lauched the "news" that this accident was provocked by CIA saboteurs. WOW!!!
The AZ-5 button is the emergency shutdown button that automatically re-inserts all the control rods to stop the nuclear fission and shutdown the reactor. So, in "theory", they believe there is no way the AZ-5 button could have caused the explosion because that is the exact opposite of what that button is designed to do. However, as you saw, the operators were adamant that they pressed the button and then it exploded. The mystery deepens.
After the men were buried, the firefighters were treated as heroes, but the operators were villianized by the state. All of the grave stones of the operators were desecrated except for Tuptunov because he was so young.
Watching the cement truck show up ripped me apart. It just felt like such a blow to already grieving people.
I've studied Chernobyl for years, since I was in high school in the mid 90's. Best book I can recommend id The Truth About Chernobyl that was written by Gregory Medvedev, one of the team leaders during the whole ordeal. It's a very detailed book and really helps you understand not only what was going on with the reactor and the localized events, but also the political aspects.
The epilogue of this show is beautiful, but it will wrench what's left of your emotions from you
TripleViktor the reason for the cement truck was because they essentially became nuclear waste they absorbed 24 Sieverts of radiation each the red forest absorbed twelve total that should give you an example of how radioactive their bodies are
@@ianloeb1672 I know that. What I'm saying is it feels like such an added gut punch for those there because it was done while they were there.
The touching thing is actually fine. The firemen obviously took a shower or were washed down by the nurses/doctors. It was an issue back in the days, where people mistakenly believed that you can receive second-hand radiation, which isn't true. Kids who moved from Pripyat to Moskow were ostracised and feared because they might have carried radiation within their body.
Keep it up guys!! Your reactions are super great, and pretty soon you’re going to blow up! And when you do blow up, you’ll deserve it!
Thank you so much!
just found yall, great content and reaction! subbed
Thanks for the support!
Dos Cavazos wish you showed more show time though
The divers; The lights went out because the equipment was ill-maintained. The Backup lights were the same ones used by Miners. The dry suits they were wearing offered much better protection from the water. Most Alphas and Betas are stopped by clothing... these were thick rubber suits... and they never touched the contaminated water. Those three men actually survived... one died in 2002, the other two are still alive today.
“Akimov…his face was gone”
50 degrees Celsius is 122 degrees Farenheit
loved you guys' reactions to the show and i felt the exact same way! except i had little to no knowledge of the event before watching. i just knew about the explosion.
Also...i see that Spurs gear! GO SPURS GO!
Fact check: Excellent series but the Minister of Coal Industries Shadov was not an arrogant party snag as shown, nor did he blindly order miners to Chernobyl, he himself was a coal miner for decades and was universally adored by coal miners, oil rig workers throughout the USSR. He held midnight meetings with the trade unions and informed them of the risks involved, many preferred not to go. No one was forced. He was often seen hugging coal miners in his minesterial outfit even b4 Chernobyl. When asked by a secretary as to why he was he fond of hugging miners cover in dirt, he replied "I had dirt on me for decades in these mines, that is where you and I will return to one day, might as well embrace dirt before it embraces us".
What's really satisfying about this amazing show is that all the questions you guys were asking yourselves right here WILL BE ANSWERED! So I feel really happy for you, that you ask yourself the right questions & knowing the show will answer it. Most of it in the final episode. But first you must get ready for episode 4 & I heard you guys have a dog. Maybe you wanna bring tissues & a pillow to hug.
I believe, the next one is the most heartbreaking of them all, so brace yourselves.. :(
0C is freezing, 100C is boiling, 18-22C is average room tempreture, 37C is average blood tempreture, 50C...
You guys are so on-point! You really should have more subscribers.
This show was so well done. I'm usually a pretty stoic person, devoid of any emotion, and not much gets to this cold dark place I call a heart, but this series hit me right in the feels, several times.
Dying batteries seems plausible. Old type accumulators internal structure is like a cake - multiple layers of metallic foil separated with insulating material. High energy particles can penetrate and rupture insulating layers thus creating a channel for discharge. If that happened I would assume their accumulators were very hot.
P. S. Sorry for "not the best" English :)
*yeah, disturbingly enough, the hospital scene got watered down! In real life, when his arm was picked up, the bone went up but the skin stayed on the bed... like, it’s just...yknow... and I had a friend/neighbour as a kid and they were from Lithuania which is even closer than I was (Romania), and her brother was born blind but healthy otherwise, which thank God for that! But let’s hope it gets better for those still suffering from it and that this never happens again!*
Awesome reaction, awesome show! Keep up the good work! Greetings from Finland!
Just found you guys, The main reason for the accident was their reactors are not as good as ours in the west ( don't want to spoil main reason ) . The men and women that did the work are true heroes saving millions . I enjoyed your reactions to this series so far
For the Motherland, for the glory of The Soviet Union.
Communism, not so humane.
Communism is a great idea, but that's all it is. The way humans are programmed communism can never work the way it is idealized.
The workers who went into the water last episode survived and I believe a couple are still alive today. So at least some good news lol
Greetings from Latvia!!! ;)
Chernoby was the main reason for the collapse of the Soviet Union. Because almost all the funds went for liquidation of consequences.
hardest and best miniseries you'll watch...never want to watch it again, and it's my favorite miniseries to date.
It is important to know, that it wont affect you, if you are close to a person which suffers from radiation poisining, they reason why doctors and others belive that is, that the simple didnt knew it better, especially after the explosion, because all books about radiation, and power plants were removed from all places over the soviet union. Kids which were taken away from their homes, because they were in the exclusion zone, came to families in the east of the soviet union, but people were afraid of them so they closed them away, so they wouldnt need to touch them. In fact, it doesnt matter if you touch someone who suffers from radiation poisining, because it cant spread to others.
Reactors reacting to the reactor's reaction...sorry I'm out.
The main thesis of socialism is "state for the people". It's main criticism of the west was our alleged people for the state mentality.
Every western state: "save the people"
Soviet state: "save our image, forget about the people"
Also the soviet state: "do it for money, we don't tell you why"
soviet people: "save your money, we do it for the 'why', because it must be done"
The soviet state (as the GDR and the thrid reich) acted like it made it's people great, when in fact the soviet people held up the wrongest stateform in modern history for decades.
The fall of the soviet union was predestined from the moment it was founded. The ideology is wrong in it's core, it was just delayed by the strong people who lived there long before and still remain after it's fall.
The same was true for the two attempts to force a socialist state form in Germany.
Next 2 episode will be more exciting, cos we just saw the aftermath and sad stuff... And brace yourselves not only good episodes are coming but marvelous acting too
Everything about miners is deceitful except for the tablet. We drove voluntarily, the minister came to Chernobyl already. The deputy minister was constantly there while dripping. The minister was very respected among the miners. And in general in the series there are a lot of lies.
You can still find spread radiation from the forests of northern EU, from berries & mushrooms etc after all these years :)
Yeah in Sweden we can't eat some of the boar, for example. They have to be checked for cesium-137 before being consumed. A lingering result from Chernobyl.
She just loves her husband... actually these people weren't toxic. The radio active dust is radio active thats in the air, and the radio activity that is spewing from that place, but the sick people aren't toxic. That was misinformation in that time. These shoot the dogs because they were afraid they were toxic. The firemen could not be touched but thats not the reason her baby died. The baby could have died because of many reasons, but she was in Chernobyl when it exploded. She already was surrounded by radiation before even touching her husband. That would be more a reason or the stress. Her baby wasn't born dead... it lived for 4 hours. Which can be a cause of a lot of things. Even my aunt her baby was born dead and there not a single radiation. So I would say her baby didn't die because she touched her husband... her baby more likely died of stress or because she was in Pripyat when Chernobyl exploded. She got radiation too just like everyone there. That is toxic not her husband. But of course there are many more reasons a baby could die, like smoking, drinking alcohol which in Russia is also happening. Also babies can be born dead or live for a short time because they have something wrong with them that can happen always even without radiation.
At 9:32 you cut out the important part?
"Now you look like the minister of coal"
That was the only funny scene in the dystopic dramatic mini series
None of the people knew what they were getting into or how deadly and bad this was. We still are finding out more about how bad it is. The devastation of this accident can not only be measured in death alone, but in hundreds of years of mutations.
As for the wife, what is really sad is that the baby absorbs all the radiation and saves her life.
The portrayal of coal minister Shadov was sadly one of the inaccuracies of this otherwise great mini series. By most accounts the real minister Shadov was well respected by soviet coal miners.
when u said it was tame on how those people in the hospital looked, you were right, i think a decade later? accident at a japan one & 1 worker pretty much had the same thing, if i recall right he actually lived 2 months? (but how he looked, i kinda think he prob wished he wasn't) anyway, there were actual pictures of what happened to him & was gross and far worse
It didn’t matter who you were.. no one, NO ONE in the Soviet Union, fucks with miners. The miners were seen as more manly than the hardest of soldiers. Miners were untouchables, pure badasses
My Grandfather was almost sent to Chernobyl
Also I have to add, most scenes are believable and a realistic portrayal of people and that time except the Coal minister. People in the Soviet Union had upmost respect for each other. They went completely voluntary because it had to be done.