This is my 2nd favorite Sp behind the 303. You have the best filters, the best sound, the best pitch, & the best timestretch. Like you said, you can't adjust the sample volume, and you can't trim the start and end points. Your mark game has to be precise. And don't even think about trying to truncate or delete samples one by one either unless you have an errand to run. It takes FOREVER. . This machine will test your patience, but you gotta play to it's strengths and avoid it's weaknesses.
lol yeah its frustraiting when you cut some chops but the beat doesn't work. makes you feel like you've wasted a lot of time, but like you say its worth being patient with this unit, its a little beast when you play to its strengths!
PRO TIP - 2 birds one stone: buy a 202 and a P0-33. Owning both units fixes the "memory card" problem (for cheaper) and the "build full beats" problem. Next step, make some dawless heat. If you have a little bit more doe: buy a myVolts Ripcord and an external cellphone battery charger. Boom, there you go: you have a most portable, cheap, dawless setup there is. Enjoy.
The only problem of the SP 404 SX is the Pitch Func, really. Or the lack of. Also the 202 sounds the best. Everything that goes in it sounds better. I just use the HIFI Stereo with no FX to resample every chop I make and bounce them back in the 404 SX. Do a A/B testing. Everything sounds better.
I bought mine 20+ years ago. I still have original box and manual. I hated it back then, but now I enjoy using it, externally sequenced. I really hate the ring mod tho..
I know this is kind of not related, but how do you get yourself to publish sampled beats if it can get you into legal trouble? That thought has been holding me off from putting any of my beats that include samples out there especially with distributors on spotify, apple music etc.
chop and repitch to a point where you can't recognise the track. The algorithms wont pick it up. Using loops of songs is more risky so be careful with those. Smaller artists like you and me most likely won't get in trouble because its not worth the time to recoup the low earnings we've made. I think worst case your track will just get taken down. That being said, it is not legal to use copyrighted songs without permission so the risk is entirely yours and I don't condone it!
can i sample songs from a computer thru SP 202 ? And if I can is there other devices I need to do it successfully? (sample from youtube-mp3 downloads on pc)
yes with the right cables. You either need some kind of audio interface that you can send the sound of your computer out, or you could try going out of the headphone jack and get a small jack > phono cable but the signal might not be great
I found my sp 202. It turns on but doesn’t allow me to play with the functions. I know I should take it to a pro to open it up and take a look. But anyone have a similiar experience?
Basically just record in as loud as possible and reduce the recording volume to get less hiss I find. It could also be down to earthing so try using a wall socket if you are running off an extension cable
Yea same here the whiny noise is actually annoying, i thought it was faulty when i got mine but since learned they are all like this, its electrical nterference i'm guessing, not alot can be done unless somebody knows of a mod.
3 tricks to get rid of the hiss. 1-Rec Lvl must be set @ 11 o'clock. Past that it just gets noisy. 2-Get an overpriced mem card. C/D banks have WAY quieter hiss. That's why they are so fucking expensive. It ain't for the extra mem bullshit. They just sound better. 3-Once your beat is done with, bounce it in a daw and duck those 2 frequencies: 940hz and 829hz. Boom: No hiss. You good to go.
Picked up mine for £250 about 2 months ago came with a 4mb card too, kinda wish I'd bought a Beat Thang now though as they do a lot more but only saw one for the first time yesterday.
I am actually going to do a video about this next but essentially you are correct yes. The only way to do it would be to have a drum loop on a pad and play along some chops maybe but even then you run into polyphony issues very quickly. Its more like an FX processor than a beat making machine
This is my 2nd favorite Sp behind the 303. You have the best filters, the best sound, the best pitch, & the best timestretch. Like you said, you can't adjust the sample volume, and you can't trim the start and end points. Your mark game has to be precise. And don't even think about trying to truncate or delete samples one by one either unless you have an errand to run. It takes FOREVER. . This machine will test your patience, but you gotta play to it's strengths and avoid it's weaknesses.
lol yeah its frustraiting when you cut some chops but the beat doesn't work. makes you feel like you've wasted a lot of time, but like you say its worth being patient with this unit, its a little beast when you play to its strengths!
Great video bro! I definitely plan on getting one later this year for sure!🙏🏾✊🏾🔥🔥🔥
Its awesome for the sample rates and pitching man yeah!
Great video! My 202 came used with its memory card and Power cable but no knobs-- i’m still on the hunt for the original orange and black knobs!!
You might have to get a 'donor' unit - you could salvage other parts from it over the years too probably
This was created for the DJ world but after 20 years I’ve finally got this into my home studio setup. Sits next to an MPC🎉
Yesss! The 202 is dope
Absolutely my most treasured sampler. Bury me with it.
- Die Master Monkey
PRO TIP - 2 birds one stone: buy a 202 and a P0-33.
Owning both units fixes the "memory card" problem (for cheaper) and the "build full beats" problem.
Next step, make some dawless heat.
If you have a little bit more doe: buy a myVolts Ripcord and an external cellphone battery charger. Boom, there you go: you have a most portable, cheap, dawless setup there is. Enjoy.
@@rorz999 It is better pairing indeed. Not as cheap. Not as portable. But better in any other ways for sure. The 404 SX is just the best.
The only problem of the SP 404 SX is the Pitch Func, really. Or the lack of. Also the 202 sounds the best. Everything that goes in it sounds better. I just use the HIFI Stereo with no FX to resample every chop I make and bounce them back in the 404 SX. Do a A/B testing. Everything sounds better.
202 and 404sx is such a dope combo!
I got a 202 a dr202 an a po-boy. just need to find samples.
The 202 is my favorite.
I bought mine 20+ years ago. I still have original box and manual. I hated it back then, but now I enjoy using it, externally sequenced. I really hate the ring mod tho..
Yeah I have found no practical use for that at all haha! That’s dope you’ve had one that long. What do you use to sequence it?
@@spvidz Akai Force, although you can't make every pad on the 202 trigger. But that's an easy workaround.
2 years ago hear in aus I seen a brand new boxed one on Gumtree. already owned one tho. would of been nice having a fresh 202 ay
SP202FTW
Does anyone know What producers or musicians that used the sp202?
I know this is kind of not related, but how do you get yourself to publish sampled beats if it can get you into legal trouble? That thought has been holding me off from putting any of my beats that include samples out there especially with distributors on spotify, apple music etc.
chop and repitch to a point where you can't recognise the track. The algorithms wont pick it up. Using loops of songs is more risky so be careful with those. Smaller artists like you and me most likely won't get in trouble because its not worth the time to recoup the low earnings we've made. I think worst case your track will just get taken down. That being said, it is not legal to use copyrighted songs without permission so the risk is entirely yours and I don't condone it!
How about the hifi lofi working as an fx box?
Scored mine with a dr202 a decade ago for 150
nice!
can i sample songs from a computer thru SP 202 ? And if I can is there other devices I need to do it successfully? (sample from youtube-mp3 downloads on pc)
yes with the right cables. You either need some kind of audio interface that you can send the sound of your computer out, or you could try going out of the headphone jack and get a small jack > phono cable but the signal might not be great
@@spvidz one mo question? can you put downloaded beats on yo pc into the sp 202 as new beat sounds?
I dont even care to use the memory card, when you do, with the c and d banks you can only play one pad at a time and cant use most of the effects.
Yup that’s pretty much why I’ve never bothered with one in the end. I mainly use this as an fx processing unit or master fx box these days
I found my sp 202. It turns on but doesn’t allow me to play with the functions. I know I should take it to a pro to open it up and take a look. But anyone have a similiar experience?
Unless you have experience with electronics take it to a pro imo
Just received mine ‘stilll neeed to check it out .I notice the light remains on hi-if& mono( is that normal I can’t adjust it )
In case u havnt figured it out by now, u can only change the sample modes if u select the pad u want to record on before actually recording the sample
I remember you talking about a hiss problem when recording samples, have you learned to solve that issue? I’m having the same problem with my 202
Basically just record in as loud as possible and reduce the recording volume to get less hiss I find. It could also be down to earthing so try using a wall socket if you are running off an extension cable
Yea same here the whiny noise is actually annoying, i thought it was faulty when i got mine but since learned they are all like this, its electrical nterference i'm guessing, not alot can be done unless somebody knows of a mod.
Yes I’ve noticed that too. Pretty much always in standard or lower here as well!
3 tricks to get rid of the hiss.
1-Rec Lvl must be set @ 11 o'clock. Past that it just gets noisy.
2-Get an overpriced mem card. C/D banks have WAY quieter hiss. That's why they are so fucking expensive. It ain't for the extra mem bullshit. They just sound better.
3-Once your beat is done with, bounce it in a daw and duck those 2 frequencies: 940hz and 829hz. Boom: No hiss. You good to go.
@@AmazonCrime nice, those are the Nonjuror tips. Don’t forget if you repitch those two frequencies get moved
Sp505 sp303 uses 3.3v also mc 909/sp202 mc 505 5v smart media card
Cheers for the info man!
Yeah I bought an mc 505 for 50 bucks and it had a smart media card in it! Super score
Did you have to pay import tax?
I didn’t on mine no. I’ve never understood import duty 🤔
I just paid 109,00€ of import tax for the Sx on ebay, it comes from japan.
@@spvidz You would of been told about it from UK import taxes.
Yeah you get a note that you need to go and collect your package then they charge you. Luckily didn’t happen for me!
Word up cats keep analog. Alive
202s are going for around 300- 400 these days.
Yeah paid about £150 for mine and just looked and they’ve creeped up to around £200/£250
Picked up mine for £250 about 2 months ago came with a 4mb card too, kinda wish I'd bought a Beat Thang now though as they do a lot more but only saw one for the first time yesterday.
Sorry guys but I still don’t understand, you can’t make beats as it doesn’t have a sequencer right ?
I am actually going to do a video about this next but essentially you are correct yes. The only way to do it would be to have a drum loop on a pad and play along some chops maybe but even then you run into polyphony issues very quickly. Its more like an FX processor than a beat making machine
@@spvidz thank you for replying ❤️🙏🏻
If you’re still looking for a memory card I have two for sale I bought an SP202 recently that came with 5 ( I’m in Scotland )
Hey mate! Could be interested. Can you message me on insta? @spvidz_
Yo also keen im in glasgow hmu @leomaylife
@@leomay4240 £50 it's been tested on my 202 then wiped clean and works fine
Would you perhaps consider selling your sp 202 to me?
I am actually thinking of selling both this and my 303. It depends where you live though
@@spvidz i live in germany...
Batteries 🤔
Stop making vids about the 202 the price keeps going up 😭 lol
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