Is The Mote Of Mark The Lost Kingdom Of Rheged?
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- In the summer of 2020 my dad and I took a trip north to check out some of the UK's most epic visible remnants of the early Middle Ages. This is what we found.
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Big thanks to my dad for this one. Where would you like to see me/us visit next? Can't travel very far because of the plague but there are plenty of hill forts around the UK. Thanks for watching. If you'd like to see more don't forget to like, subscribe etc etc. Cheers all! Tons more early medieval content on the way... I have been researching a lot recently.
Really looking forward to it. Thanks for the great information and presentation.
West Scotland, the Hebrides. I, as a Swede find the area very compelling.
Appreciate your work alot! /J
Oswestry hill fort. One of the most well preserved hill forts in the UK. Amazing history and a beautiful area. There’s even rumours that king Arthur’s wife was born on top of the hill fort. Plus if you do come here I can buy you a fresh golden ale and thank you for hours of entertainment.
Would love you to do a number on belas knap long barrow and a number of other ancient monuments along the cotswold escarpment
@@coconutfleetsleeper5717 take a look at a place called knoydart, uk village with the most remote pub not accessible by road, opens out on to the Irish sea, one of the most beautiful places I've ever been
"So you're saying he left his mark?" Glad to see dad jokes are a universal constant in all nations.
Dad and fart jokes forever!!
Cool to see a father and son going on these adventures together
"My son, we are pilgrims in an unholy land."
I’ve learned King Urien of Rheged was my ancestor, so i’ve been trying to learn anything i can about the lost old kingdom of Rheged, and this really helps
Your a great historian, being in America I truly enjoy all your videos. Thank you
Thank you so much for this, Pete.
You should definitely look into getting a LiDAR unit for your drone, I believe there are still a great many hill forts and settlements hidden by undergrowth and trees.
On one of the camera pans, a distant hill's trees seemed to be staggered in an almost zig zag pattern, much like how other hill forts used methods to limit an approach, by forcing people to walk single-file.
It's possible that the hill was overgrown over the centuries, obscuring any sign of habitation.
With the 'mote' being so small, I personally think it was more likely to have been a watch post for a larger settlement.
Amazing historical place. I enjoyed the view and history lesson, also enjoyed Dad Kelly being along for the journey. Keep up the great work.
Great vid as always, would love to see you visit Ireland someday too.
As would I. Been on the cards for many years. Unfortunately the pandemic put a stop to the trip for the time being. It will happen though. And it will be incredible. Arguably even more incredibly history and folklore in Ireland than Britain.
I too love spending time with my dad, late 80s now so it's more important than ever. He was a ship builder so that's his interest, ship building on the Clyde. While I can totally appreciate that and also have a space in my heart for it I prefer my history a bit older than that. Living on the Clyde I really appreciated your Dumbarton Rock episode, he took me there to visit many years ago, I can close my eyes, or just stand there and see the long ships coming up the firth, and imagine the thoughts of both those who were defending the rock and those on the long ships approaching these strange, unstable forts. It must have been a very intense waiting game.
I remember working in Rockcliffe and climbing up the seacliffes ,it was the first time I came across adders. Seen merlins grave up by drumelzier up by peebles.
Been a big fan for years! We appreciate all the hard work Pete! It really shows in this latest season of videos! Keep it up brother
Pete, as usual, a wonderful job. Storytelling, the history, videography, editing, music, the works. Thank you for your work!
Thanks for the video, great scenes via the drone! The word Mark is in my humble opinion a corruption of Welsh 'March', meaning a cavalry man's warhorse/s (An ordinary horse is Ceffyl in Welsh). The topography looks like it could not have been much more than a watch-tower or 'broch' but perhaps designed to garrison one of Rheged's many swift moving cavalry units with stables etc. Mote/Motte is an Anglo-Norman word and can't have any bearing on the name of the location in the 6th/7th century. A more likely name would have been 'Din March' (Fortress of the warhorse/cavalry horse). The vitrification is now more widely believed to have been caused by the remnants of a comet that caused terrible destruction across the British and Irish isles in the 550s. Nothing to do with alleged 7th century English arsonists. Classical writers in Gaul and Turkey wrote about the destruction this comet's tail caused across Britain, as did Gildas (although Gildas's description has been misinterpreted to refer to the actions of the invading Saxons rather than the tail of this comet).
Always assumed Mote meant hill, as in motte and bailey.
Also suspect the story of Tristan and Mark originated in the North, but was later linked to Cornwall due to the first surviving stories being written down in France, and that being the part of Britain they were most familiar with. The name is of Pictish origin (Drustan). His supposed homeland, Lyonesse, is the old French name for Lothian, but became a sunken land off Cornwall due to the writers lack of understanding. The Ystoria Drystan places events in the Caledonian forest. The whole Trusty's Hill thing is quite convenient too...
Fair bit of evidence in Cornwall written in stone 😉
Vitrified by a comet!
@@davideddy2672 you mean the Tristan stone? Except it doesn't say Tristan, it says something like CIRVSIVS.
I love your program. The Medieval times have been so violent. So Carnal and bitter. Even the weather seemed to be a battle to endure. Harsh attitudes against women and the poor. The hunger, the lacking even the necessities. But the rich were not kind to the poor. Most kings were cruel . The bishops and religious leaders were cruel. These times were not hygienic times either. The food was very interesting. The cooks had to be very creative, using what they could preserve for the seasons. Very popular was the meat pies, mutton, venison, pigeon, and of course beef. Much of the beef was used for milk, cheese, goats used for meat pies and cheese, lard rendered from all meat flavored the stews . The boars and hogs were a valuable source for their lard. They ground the wheat with stone and the stone wore down and was baked in their bread. Eventually this sand wore down the teeth of the kings or anyone who had daily bread. I love this history.
Heading back into that reality again, Godlessness will do that , HOW MUCH DO WE NEED CHRIST , HE IS THE GREAT REFORMER OF CIVILISATION ,his beatitudes are constitutional reform , The more he is forgotten , the more base we become , even in our intellectual and academic estimation of our selves , Every man doing what is right, IN THEIR OWN EYES , hence leading the way to destruction, Humans are on the repeat cycle , BEEN here before? Learned nothing , hmm
As a kid in the sixties I used to cycle to within a 4 km of this place, to my local beach Sandyhills. Now I live in Australia. I loved that area.
So well done. Great job. Beautifully edited. So much thought and information put into these.
Pete your voice is great; soothing, unassuming, well-delivered syntaxes. Easy on the ears! Thanks, your interest piques my interest. Kathy x
hi Pete...i'm glad i found u again...and it was so nice too meet ur Dad!
The Haugh of Urr, eh? I would see that! Didn't expect the metal with my history. Glad you got to get out with your Dad for a day.
I found a connection to the later occupants, the Kerr family of Kersland, my link was with the banished brother who ended up at Prudhoe castle in Northumbria, his line ended up taking on the name Carr. I believe their official family tree dates back to around 1120 with the earliest name being Rollo, so likely a Viking heritage. All of my links outside royalty were 100% English. There's a nice little spot near me you might wanna check out in South Kirkby Yorkshire. It was originally believed to be Saxon and they built a housing estate on half of the site calling it Saxon Way. They later realised it was Bronze Age. The other half of the site is still untouched and open. The Saxon settlement was a little further down the road in Brierley which had a ringstone but that was lost when they built an underground reservoir. Coal outcrops in our area so its pretty easy to find evidence of the Saxon era with bell pits scattered about all over the place.
Great video. I’ve studied some on the kingdom of Rhegid and recall it being wiped out by the Northumbrian’s. Such an interesting and mysterious time period. Also, being named Mark, I was not aware that there was a Cornish king from that tome with that monicker. This has to be on my bucket list to visit. Any other tips on things to see in the immediate area?
This is a fabulous project. Physically investigating the site while providing background is fantastic. The music is that last touch that makes the video superb. Where do you find the music for these videos?
Urien Rheged moved south to the Gower peninsula in south Wales in the early sixth century AD
This was awesome! Thanks for the content!
Excellent work again - thanks. And hi to Pete's dad!
this is so good mate, never knew you had a second channel now ive got loads more to watch, cheers budy and thankyou for all of your uploads top class
Thanks, an interesting video of a fascinating place and time. Lovely to see you and your dad pursuing a genuine interest together, and how beautiful a day and place it was.
Oh my what a wonderful view!! How did we ever live without drones",(X),"
COME ON GUYS! A Motte (typically Motte and Bailey) is a large mound with a fortified tower situated on top. A Motte can have a Moat around it but its not a speck of dust! LOL :)
Pete, thanks for taking me out on some very interesting adventures. Now, if I could see it all in person......
Greetings from Texas
😎👍👍👍Really interesting. I'll be tuning in often thank you for you great work.
There may be one already, if not. We need a fun family day out video. A history lessen from you, your bro and father. Would be w hit!
Been there too! Rockcliffe is a fabulous place for a weekend away :-)
Hi Pete, I live in Carlisle so I regularly visit Rockcliffe whenever I can. Some of my earliest memories are of family trips there and more in Dumfries and Galloway. So happy to watch your video on the Mote of Mark. There are plenty of excellent historic sites here in Cumbria too so if you're ever in my neck of the woods, give me a shout, I'd love to go exploring with you. I've recently become a father so I have an arsenal of Dad jokes too! 🤣 Keep up the good work, it's really appreciated and always enjoyable.
What a beautiful countryside! I would love to come and this area in person. Thanks for the tour.
17:10 yer da says moat & you say mote, but I assumed it was from motte
Great videos pete! Loved the dinas emrys one too! We've been looking into the vitrification of northern forts ourselves with britains hidden history, and it seems they are a direct consequence of the sixth century comet which was known to have devastated large parts of britain. To vitrify stone requires immense heat, and with the top courses of stone being fused, it sugests incredible heat from above. Professor michael bailie (a dendrochronologist) noted how the forests of britain were devastated in the sixth century. Also there are reports of a great dragon in the sky(welsh language epic poetry from 6th century) thats comes from the north east, breaks up above britain, with pieces flying off towards ireland and france before dipping its fiery tongue in the western ocean. These accounts are corroborated by gregory of tours, who mentions our islands being on fire from end to end! Also interesting you mention king mark the son of meirchion, he was indeed known as being a troublesome king in the south west, and totally plausible he could have held lands up in the north.
Wow, I didn't know about the comet; the dragon explanation makes sense for the time. Thanks!
This was an enjoyable tour. Thank you, Pete. Your father was a good addition and the drone’s filming was outstanding.
Love your enthusiasm
Thank you! This is the closest I’ll probably be to these ancient areas. Thank you for taking us there!
Definitely a good film! Thanks!
Did he have Horse's Ears? There is a legend from the Lleyn Peninsula whereby Mark has got the ears of a horse. March (hard Ch sound not a soft ch sound) means a Stead/Stallion.
I love the rendition of Greensleeves you put in 🎶🎶 great vid! So relaxing and interesting after a long day at work 😁
Thankyou for sharing.
You are WELL into my main period of historic interest here Pete. My favourite spot? Well, right beside where I live actually, the seven mile long Devils Dyke in Cambridgeshire. This is one of the three massive earthworks thrown up in an attempt to thwart the advance of the incoming Germanic settlers from the East. Britons to the west, Angles, Saxons and Jutes to the east. Fenland at the north, woodland to the south. My mind is racing every time I walk it or see it.
Vitrified obviously means dragons destroyed the fort 🤔
Love your stuff Pete, both channels, you’re the Best!!👍
You made my morning. Here with my ☕🥓ready to watch.😁
Check out Deganwy castle on there's also some ancient ruins of a fort on Conwy mountain.
For meaning of 'Mote', consider it may have been a 'commote', rather than just a mote of dust!
Great video. I reckon the word ‘Mote’ is likely to be cognate with the term ‘Motte’ used for the steep sided mound at the heart of early castles. Also if it’s named after King Mark of Dumnonia in the West Country, I wonder if it’s just coincidence that the Scottish ‘Damnonia’ was in the same area.
No need to travel far. Britain is just so full of history. As an American, I thank Britain for all she has done in the modern world.
Wonder if this was a Trade Port for the Gold, Silver and Lead from Wanlockhead area?
History maybe neglected without the work of lads like yourself keep it up
Really enjoyable video of a stunning and historical place. 👍🏴
If I could have any wish, it would be a time capsule, for multiple visits!
Very cool. Re: vitrified hill forts: just how much heat energy (and for how long) to melt the walls together like that? And likewise in other places?
Fire requires fuel.. did the supposed conquerors just keep bringing wood for weeks? Would it burn hot enough? How would you keep getting fuel into such a super-heated conflagration?
The science: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7809384/
Comet , 550ad
Ales Stenar in Southern Sweden is a great place to go for a walk and then a coffee in the village next door :)
Thank You!
very well done. thanks.
it may be worth noting that the hottest of (natural) fires is not hot enough to melt rock.
Legend has it this was also the time of Arthur's death.
Visited there on my stag party weekend. Beautiful place.
Whitby must be worth a visit? The cliff-top Abbey, the assocations with Dracula and Captain James Cook RN. Or Rievaulx and close-nearby Helmsley with its castle, Market Square and Duncombe Park.
Great vid, a joy to watch! My favourite places down here at the northern edge of the bavarian Alps would be the bronze and iron age hillforts along the upper part of the river Loisach up to and including the Kochelsee. There are some stunning views to be had from them. Falkenstein above Garmisch Partenkirchen, the Birg and the unnamed roman one on the Kochelsee and the Schaumburg above Ohlstadt stand out particularily in that regard. Sadly there isn't much literature about them, be it due to just no excavations having been done at all, being picked clean by "amateurs" before any real archeology could be done, or - particularily regrettable in my book - in the case of the Birg pretty much everything (finds and documentation) from the two digs in the interwar years being destroyed by bombing in WW2. The Schaumburg stands out though: The medieval castle that stood there being remarkable for two reasons: Having a secret tunnel of considerable length and falling to siege when its owner didn't pay his dues to city of Munich.
Thanks for the interesting video.
Pete this is amazing 🤩 love this. Uriens of Rheged will be reborn.
I have never seen gates like those.. I'm guessing they have something to do with livestock and careless visitors? Very interesting.
Interesting how the line trough Elmet corresponds to the DNA map.
wish the videos were longer
interesting place...lucky to salvage that drone!
WOW ! would love to visit...if I had the funds ! thank you!
Have you guys considered Degannwy, there hasnt been a huge amount of scholarly work into it’s 5/6th century legacy. Great video, I thought I knew a bit about this period and never realised Mote of Mark was in this area, I holiday a lot here too!
Yes I have been and loved it. Check out my newsletter for an extensive write up of the place. I will turn it into a video eventually.
@@PeteKellyHistory Pete - marvellous. How do I get to your newsletter?
Hey Pete, another fantastic production. Is there any way i could download the coloured maps? They are brilliant. Thanks
Since you asked. And I know it's quite the departure from this one,( beautiful by the way), I'd like to see you visit and tell us about the "Battle of Visby"
We have to remember that the Cymru were migrants who were the leading societies and kingdoms of Britian for some 2000 years upto the fall of Rome which led to the dissolution of the old ways but over those 2000 years there were many Kings and many Arthurs while the Pendragon was a title. Which is why amongst the Cymru, Bretons, Kernow, Rheged and Pict kindoms, there are legends of a King Arthur, unique to their Kingdom, as many as 11 King Arthurs over those 2000 years amongst all these Kingdoms of migrants related to the eastern mediterranean, Laurence Gardnar has some interesting lectures on youtube regards the 'royal lines' of those ages, perhaps useful with a new King being annointed. Because myrddin has popped up so many times, this too may have been a 'Title' for the current great wizard of his time' as Mary was also a 'Title' for the ancient hebrew as so many were
YOU WENT PAST DROUGHDUIL! You went past m y house on the (old) A75. I can very nearly see Droughduil from my front window.
Wales forever ❤
Brilliant still 🌞👍🐝 loved it 🌼🌻 cheers 🍀
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How can I watch all of your TH-cam series in order?
"He left his mark" - nice job Dad. 👍👌😁
Come to Dartmoor...
The Comet of 562.
The oldest monastic building known in Britian is at the Beckery in Glastonbury Somerset and is dated late 6th century, at least 150 years after the romans retreated. That's not to say the teachings of christ had not reached Britian through the Romans at an earlier time.
Great job doing videos
You personally would benefit more from the left-hand bards Llywarch hen and Llywelyn Goch ap Meurig hen Mr kelly
What years approx the early medieval period?
So are the views of the land beyond the sea, of the isle of man?
This is great!
What a COOL place !❤️
Thankyou for yr honesty.the evidence is there.look to the poems.irish Scots welsh.and tacticus.josephus. roman scribeswrote about
So what does aigh of Urr mean?
Catraeth
Vitrified eh, plasma fire?
Not far from me!
Hi Pete Kelly’s dad!
Hello DAD!
They took it from that period and changed the periods