@@AlbertLebel I don't think they're anti drill pins but are rollers if you have an insurance type or British standard (Normally B.S but i figured you may interpret that as something to do with male cows !) the throw bolt of the lock has them and they stop someone from sawing through the bolt I believe that is the intention here but see dictionary definition of bolt for other kind (i.e retaining , i.e the core ) Also I believe U.K prison bars are hollow square with a solid round bar in the centre for insuring the inmates don't give themselves early parole !
@@nonnovyabizness3003 Thanks for the feedback. I heard that about prison bars. Anti saw. The inner bar would just spin. Not sure but it makes for a damn good story. 👍
@@AlbertLebel I am not suggesting or requesting you do so ! But if you wanted to be sure if they are anti saw you could test to see if they are tempered steel (hardened) by seeing if a saw or file bites or skates as you would if you wanted to see if the shackle was really hardened !!!!!
The ONE and ONLY Big Al! Thanks for the teardown and review (I thank that was more interesting than the picking), Good luck on you new quest for round bodied locks!
I agree the lock body is pretty solid. I would add a bypass wafer/shield to the back side if the lock cylinder would take it and security pins. To bad the cylinder/pins are the weakest point. But still a pretty nice looking lock. With a little cylinder pin rework I would recommend this as a solid lock for protecting valuables. Hah that is a rarity for Masterlock. Nice video, nice lock Al. Take care, stay safe.
Derrick Hogue I’m with ya, I would use this one myself after a few upgrades. We all give ML a lot a grief (for good reason), but theres many of their locks I like.
I’m pretty sure that the pins are drill protection. For dealing with the crimps I filed a bit of a flat along the length of a follower to clear it and keep a snug fit so the pins don’t try to escape or get hung up.
Jim Anderson Correct on the pins 👌 Great idea on the follower but I would have to get another one. Don’t want to ruin such a nice aluminum one. I can probably get one printed with a flat side. Glad that small one saved the day.
@@AlbertLebel there are a few printed follower designs specifically for the crimped master cores. They are just a little flattened like described earlier here. They are damn convenient to have around.
Yeah Chaz turned me on to an Assa Maximun LFIC and showed me where to find the round padlock body to slide it in. It is definitely one of my favorites even though I haven't picked it yet. I do have a liking for those round bodies myself - kinda shaped like me! The bottom looks like a great design. The pins might be drill protection? I think a few American pins in that dude will make it worth it's weight. Good show!
Nice lock. Look at the ace hardware A527 round body lock. It has security pins and is nice looking . Would be great for your collection. Be well and have a great day.
"I'm Big Al, and you're not" haha, gave me a good chuckle! Really like the design of that Master, wonder if the pins are just for alignment during assembly? Almost seems too simple, but just a thought. I see the channels cut in the side for the same purpose, so maybe not? Shame about no security pins, but a cool lock overall. Thanks for the SLS video, take care buddy!
bradw 053 Thank you. After looking at closer I believe their anti drill pins to protect the screw. If you try drill through the screw you will hit the steel pin front or back.
BlackDolphin90 I guess either way they are there to protect the screw. Such a bad ass lock to have standard pins. But it is a Master Lock. I still like it tho.
Got a few of those big boy round locks myself, including an American 700-series that I still haven’t been able to pick (got two of them and I’m batting 0.500). Be sure to look at the Toledo TBK91R. It’s got some nice features including a spinner and drill protection for the Bible. Did not expect that much machining of the body where the core slid in. Are you sure Master didn’t have someone build that for them?
Those cast zinc bodied 230s polish up beautifully. It's not made for heavy duty use, more for weather resistance. I like the way they have the core retention set up. Are those long pins for alignment? It kind of looks that way to me, but I could be wrong.
Are those pins steel? If so, maybe its to guard against a saw attack since the body is soft zinc, kinda like paclock does with their aluminum body locks. Then again its master, so I doubt they would put that much thought into it lol
Hey Al, Awesome vid. I collect Master locks, particularly the Model no. 19. If I send you a lock and a cylinder (both are model 19's, one I cut the cylinder out of the lock body) and the key blanks can you cut the keys for me?
Hey, big Al. I just had one of these fall apart on me and I can’t seem to get the ball bearings and this shackle retaining rod back in place. Any thoughts?
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Definitely anti drill pins to protect the retaining screw. Thanks for the tip on mrlock
I believe your spot on Trey, thank you for the feedback. Yes, Mr Lock has great products at good prices IMO. Stay safe
@@AlbertLebel I don't think they're anti drill pins but are rollers if you have an insurance type or British standard (Normally B.S but i figured you may interpret that as something to do with male cows !) the throw bolt of the lock has them and they stop someone from sawing through the bolt I believe that is the intention here but see dictionary definition of bolt for other kind (i.e retaining , i.e the core ) Also I believe U.K prison bars are hollow square with a solid round bar in the centre for insuring the inmates don't give themselves early parole !
Meant to say insurance or B.S 5 lever lock above !!!
@@nonnovyabizness3003 Thanks for the feedback. I heard that about prison bars. Anti saw. The inner bar would just spin. Not sure but it makes for a damn good story. 👍
@@AlbertLebel I am not suggesting or requesting you do so ! But if you wanted to be sure if they are anti saw you could test to see if they are tempered steel (hardened) by seeing if a saw or file bites or skates as you would if you wanted to see if the shackle was really hardened !!!!!
Cool Master lock. I like the Round ones also😀
Stay safe my friend!
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chris capune Ya I have always liked the rounded body locks. They just seem so beefy. Almost all of them have these thick shackles too.
The ONE and ONLY Big Al! Thanks for the teardown and review (I thank that was more interesting than the picking), Good luck on you new quest for round bodied locks!
Thanks so much Gantry, Yes, I have already had several people contact me about more round body padlocks for my personal collection.
First time for me seeing a Master Lock built like that. With some security pins it would be a fairly good lock. Take care sir. Go U.S.
DJ 234 Ya same here. I like it. Bums me out they didn’t use good pins. And to say it has superior pick resistance is silly.
Might be an easy pick but its am intresting lock and well built. 👍
Deadlocks Absolutely. I have several round body locks including three by Master Lock but none built like this. I really like it.
I havent seen one like that. May be new defence against core pullers maybe? The old style plate covers are not good defence against that
Very cool master lock, it looks like it has some very good physical security. If you throw in some spools and serrated pins you’ll have a great lock.
michael jenkins Spot on Michael. I like it.
Very nice job thanks for sharing
I appreciate you tuning in John
Very nice looking round Master. Repining would greatly improve security.👍🦊
Definitely worth an upgrade. I have always liked the round body padlocks. I hope to collect one of each.
I agree the lock body is pretty solid. I would add a bypass wafer/shield to the back side if the lock cylinder would take it and security pins. To bad the cylinder/pins are the weakest point. But still a pretty nice looking lock. With a little cylinder pin rework I would recommend this as a solid lock for protecting valuables. Hah that is a rarity for Masterlock. Nice video, nice lock Al. Take care, stay safe.
Derrick Hogue I’m with ya, I would use this one myself after a few upgrades. We all give ML a lot a grief (for good reason), but theres many of their locks I like.
I have seen these featured before, really cool design. I will get one someday. Well picked buddy, take care.👍🏻🤓
Don'z Lockz Ya I went ahead and seen a couple older videos on it. Short of having good pins it’s a really cool lock.
I’m pretty sure that the pins are drill protection. For dealing with the crimps I filed a bit of a flat along the length of a follower to clear it and keep a snug fit so the pins don’t try to escape or get hung up.
Jim Anderson Correct on the pins 👌
Great idea on the follower but I would have to get another one. Don’t want to ruin such a nice aluminum one. I can probably get one printed with a flat side. Glad that small one saved the day.
@@AlbertLebel there are a few printed follower designs specifically for the crimped master cores. They are just a little flattened like described earlier here. They are damn convenient to have around.
Looks like a decent lock maybe a spool or to would help 👍🏻
Yes, they dropped the ball when pinning it
Yeah Chaz turned me on to an Assa Maximun LFIC and showed me where to find the round padlock body to slide it in. It is definitely one of my favorites even though I haven't picked it yet. I do have a liking for those round bodies myself - kinda shaped like me! The bottom looks like a great design. The pins might be drill protection? I think a few American pins in that dude will make it worth it's weight. Good show!
Thanks Dusty, I bet that ASSA is a beast. I have a few that just laugh at me while trying to pick them. Yes, this one is worth upgrading for sure
Nice lock. Look at the ace hardware A527 round body lock. It has security pins and is nice looking . Would be great for your collection. Be well and have a great day.
Thanks Brian, I have an Ace round body padlock but not sure it's that one. I will check into that.
All brass is the best😉
They are cool. I understand Lock Noob collects all brass locks.
Nice beefy lock, just needs a bit of work in the pin department!! Great picking, I thought with that bitting it would be a tougher pick.
Yes, these round body padlocks are all so beefy. But they dropped the ball when pinning it
"I'm Big Al, and you're not" haha, gave me a good chuckle! Really like the design of that Master, wonder if the pins are just for alignment during assembly? Almost seems too simple, but just a thought. I see the channels cut in the side for the same purpose, so maybe not? Shame about no security pins, but a cool lock overall. Thanks for the SLS video, take care buddy!
bradw 053 Thank you. After looking at closer I believe their anti drill pins to protect the screw. If you try drill through the screw you will hit the steel pin front or back.
@@AlbertLebel ah ok, that makes sense. Nice looking lock all around, would be great with some security pins 👍🏻
If it has a cast zinc body like the master lock website says, then I wouldn't trust it for much more than visual intimidation.
Matt Zirker That’s probably why it uses the steel pins to protect the screw. Thanks for the feedback Matt.
iv got one of those locked saved in my wish list! ill have to go check out Mr locks site and the one below in Wes's comment
Yes, check them both out. Mr Lock has great prices IMO.
I would guess that the pins are anti saw....not anti drill
BlackDolphin90 I guess either way they are there to protect the screw. Such a bad ass lock to have standard pins. But it is a Master Lock. I still like it tho.
Got a few of those big boy round locks myself, including an American 700-series that I still haven’t been able to pick (got two of them and I’m batting 0.500). Be sure to look at the Toledo TBK91R. It’s got some nice features including a spinner and drill protection for the Bible. Did not expect that much machining of the body where the core slid in. Are you sure Master didn’t have someone build that for them?
John Smith I absolutely love these round body padlocks. Always have. Ya the way it’s made is truly incredible. I found the TBK90R. Thank you 🙏
Those cast zinc bodied 230s polish up beautifully. It's not made for heavy duty use, more for weather resistance. I like the way they have the core retention set up. Are those long pins for alignment? It kind of looks that way to me, but I could be wrong.
Ya I really like how this one is built. I believe the pins are there to protect the screw. Makes sense anyways
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Are those pins steel? If so, maybe its to guard against a saw attack since the body is soft zinc, kinda like paclock does with their aluminum body locks. Then again its master, so I doubt they would put that much thought into it lol
Billy G. Spot on, to protect the screw from being sawn or drilled. Aside from the crappy pins I really like it. Mr Lock has great prices too.
Hey Al,
Awesome vid. I collect Master locks, particularly the Model no. 19. If I send you a lock and a cylinder (both are model 19's, one I cut the cylinder out of the lock body) and the key blanks can you cut the keys for me?
Never heard of that place but have you ever checked out allpadlocks.com they have American locks for less than 10 bucks bud
Awesome thanks for this
Thanks Wes, I have seen it but never really checked it out. I sure will now. I am a big fan of the American lock.
@@AlbertLebel shipping cost as much as a lock so gotta make the order worth it bud. You can pick you shackle height too
@@Westhelockpicker Ya, that's why I usually wait until I can buy several in one order. Shipping is always a pain
Hey, big Al. I just had one of these fall apart on me and I can’t seem to get the ball bearings and this shackle retaining rod back in place. Any thoughts?
Maybe find an exploded view online so you see how it goes. I have used grease to hold the balls in place while I pushed the actuator back in.
I got it! Tenacity pays off again. Whew.
@@kevinbacon5142 Good job.
@@AlbertLebel thank you, sir!