What do 5, 13 and 563 have in common?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024

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  • @fakjbf
    @fakjbf 10 ปีที่แล้ว +844

    James, you need to charge your phone

    • @lucasissa5536
      @lucasissa5536 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      why?

    • @Eggemeyers
      @Eggemeyers 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      And turn on show battery percentage. I hate the ambiguity of no percentage, it really should come with the percentage showing out of the box.

    • @Whovian1029
      @Whovian1029 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice Tree of Gondor

    • @jonathanc8845
      @jonathanc8845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      right? I couldn't even watch the calculator bits.

    • @karmanyaahm
      @karmanyaahm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Bluetooth is on

  • @HowToBasic
    @HowToBasic 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1546

    Eggs

  • @mattseery7943
    @mattseery7943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Protect this man at all costs. His joy is absolutely infectious. What a wonderful teacher.

  • @louisgil9630
    @louisgil9630 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2137

    Do you guys just have a huge storage filled with brown paper?

    • @numberphile
      @numberphile  10 ปีที่แล้ว +670

      Louis Gil I have a pretty big box of them!

    • @slayersdragon6129
      @slayersdragon6129 9 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      +Numberphile Oh............., a very traditional thing for you guys.

    • @314rft
      @314rft 9 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      +Numberphile This channel is known for the brown paper.

    • @jjovereats
      @jjovereats 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      +Numberphile Don't lie to me! It's a roll.

    • @GGViraN
      @GGViraN 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +jjovereats A mile long one!

  • @Twewy13
    @Twewy13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    Dr James Grime should change his name to Dr James Prime.

    • @tabularasa0606
      @tabularasa0606 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree: Dr James "Prime" Grime sounds weird.

    • @rubadux
      @rubadux 10 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      he is indivisible, though. Ôo

    • @johnojohnovono7666
      @johnojohnovono7666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My dad is a doctor and his name is James Grimes so this name change would keep his name on google

    • @alexandertownsend3291
      @alexandertownsend3291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So you mean Dr James'

    • @anmoljawalia5967
      @anmoljawalia5967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

  • @legoboy1707
    @legoboy1707 8 ปีที่แล้ว +766

    "7 factorial...hmm I wonder what that is..." *looks up, as though calculating* "Aha! 5040!"
    Me: Wow, I wish I could calculate like that!
    Camera moves to the calculator
    "No don't show them that!"

    • @vicr123
      @vicr123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Calculators are valuable tools :)

    • @elaxter
      @elaxter 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Mental math is a gimmick.

    • @alejandrocampos1682
      @alejandrocampos1682 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Legoboy

    • @bowlchamps37
      @bowlchamps37 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I guess it was more of a joke. Every math doctor knows at least up to 10!, right. x! is for university students what x² is for school kids.

    • @MrGrumbleguts
      @MrGrumbleguts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno, I would have thought most people know up to 10! but james (indeed all the numberphile people) seems to be very light on for arithmetic.

  • @deliveryguy1981
    @deliveryguy1981 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    2:41 I wouldn't be leaving my phone out on with a low battery.

  • @DjVortex-w
    @DjVortex-w 9 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    What's the difference between a mathematician and a physicist?
    A physicist uses a TI scientific calculator. A mathematician uses an iPhone.

    • @robin-vt1qj
      @robin-vt1qj 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      at our school we are only allowed to use the TI calculator at maths class.

    • @ceselb
      @ceselb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I use a TI emulator on my android. What does that make me?

    • @fatmccat1513
      @fatmccat1513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ceselb You're a physicist AND a mathematician

    • @picks6500
      @picks6500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fatmccat1513 he was using an android, not an iPhone tho, so not a mathematician

    • @Triantalex
      @Triantalex ปีที่แล้ว

      false.

  • @shekillaboom4729
    @shekillaboom4729 10 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    now that i know this i am unstoppable.

    • @MMmk1
      @MMmk1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      xD

    • @bmxscape
      @bmxscape 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      just like when i memorized 33 digits of pi my life has never been the same, i am far beyond this generation
      3.14159265358979323846264338327950

    • @ScilexGuitar
      @ScilexGuitar 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ***** I memorized some of the digits too :) 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481 117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233 786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006 606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146 951941511609433057270365759591953092186117381932611793105118548074462379962749 567351885752724891227938183011949129833673362440656643086021394946395224737190 702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132000568127145263560827 785771342757789609173637178721468440901224953430146549585371050792279689258923 542019956112129021960864034418159813629774771309960518707211349999998372978049 951059731732816096318595024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010 003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303598253490428755468731159562863882 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    • @michaelwright9432
      @michaelwright9432 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ScilexGuitar You're no where near my level.

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    • @ScilexGuitar
      @ScilexGuitar 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rusty Shacklford Wow, man. That is awesome!

  • @nerdbot4446
    @nerdbot4446 10 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Dr. James Prime is back! Awesome!!

    • @PrimusProductions
      @PrimusProductions 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That makes him sound like a Transformers character.

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brown paper from this video available --- see ebay link in description if you're interested.

  • @mephostopheles3752
    @mephostopheles3752 9 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    "Don't show them that!"
    They don't want to tell high schoolers that even real mathematicians use calculators. Then they'd have an excuse.

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Of course they use calculators. Stuff gets pretty hard to calculate in your head :P

    • @mephostopheles3752
      @mephostopheles3752 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      ***** Exactly.High school teachers need to stop bullshitting us.

    • @BBBuilds12
      @BBBuilds12 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Knowing how to basic calculations on paper or in your head is useful, but the majority of the time stick with a calculator. In high school now you use calculators all the time.

    • @katzen3314
      @katzen3314 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sure, but it's better and faster to be a bit independent from your calculator, which comes with practice.

    • @stevenglikin3219
      @stevenglikin3219 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +SeaBiscuit Hogwarts?... I think you've been watching too much Harry Potter xD I think you meant Harvard

  • @Methodenlehre
    @Methodenlehre 8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    5 is an even more special prime number since it is the only Wilson prime where the division leads back to the prime itself, as in:
    ((a - 1)! + 1) / a = a is only true for a = 5

    • @mamcstaffviewsteeve5581
      @mamcstaffviewsteeve5581 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hey hey hey, thats my new number type im stealing

    • @DanDart
      @DanDart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's also true for some non-integers such as -3.02002626182918... and 1.37439467883103...

    • @DanDart
      @DanDart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      obviously you'd have to use the gamma function instead of plain factorials but yeah

    • @AlfaEcho
      @AlfaEcho 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, that's what we call a Mainzer Prime now

  • @VarmDild
    @VarmDild 9 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    At 2:38 he could just say that 5041 is odd, and odd numbers are never divisible by 8.

    • @Harmoniou-s
      @Harmoniou-s 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it only worked with primes

    • @Riganotza
      @Riganotza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Never hurts to check. Don't want to be surprised

  • @jaredbrooks7764
    @jaredbrooks7764 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how excited the people from numberphile are about math and stuff.

  • @lesleyvids2610
    @lesleyvids2610 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    4:00 he should charge his phone...

    • @ChaimS
      @ChaimS 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      or turn off Bluetooth- it's draining it!

  • @petrowolke
    @petrowolke 10 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    5...13...563...>20.000.000.000
    Well, that escalated quickly!

    • @DuringDark
      @DuringDark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tree(1),tree(2),tree(3)

    • @jankisi
      @jankisi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Missed three zeros (0:34)

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jankisi That doesn't make it wrong, though, because of the ">".

  • @RobFlaxMusic
    @RobFlaxMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was today years old when I learned the iPhone calculator had a factorial button (and lots more operators). Had never bothered to turn it sideways. Thanks!

  • @Ninterd2
    @Ninterd2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It works for 1, which isn't a prime! (1-1)! + 1 = 1+1 = 2
    Divisible by 1. But maybe that doesn't count.

    • @kurichannn
      @kurichannn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      1 is neither prime nor composite

    • @MegaScytheman
      @MegaScytheman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      but wait that would be 0 factorial plus 1

    • @jazzabighits4473
      @jazzabighits4473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@romyrconcepcion5458 Why isn't 0! = 0?

    • @eve_the_eevee_rh
      @eve_the_eevee_rh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ask the calculator

    • @JohnDixon
      @JohnDixon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jazzabighits4473 You can think of it like this; any number n! equals (n+1)!/(n+1)
      So 0! = 1!/1 = 1

  • @Teth47
    @Teth47 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how enthusiastic Dr. Grime is, and how much his title makes him sound like a supervillain in a Mr. Clean comic. I've learned more about math through him than my entire educational career...

  • @floryan1087
    @floryan1087 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1105

    What do 5, 13 and 563 have in common?
    They're numbers. Solved

    • @mudkip_btw
      @mudkip_btw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you

    • @Cardmaster12
      @Cardmaster12 8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      they're all odd

    • @JL-zw7hi
      @JL-zw7hi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      there all prime

    • @audiblemagician6751
      @audiblemagician6751 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They don't have decimals
      (well technically there 5.000000000.... 13.00000000000..... 563.00000000....

    • @rombow1319
      @rombow1319 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      6?

  • @yanava
    @yanava 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    James is my favourite numberphiler. He presents the content with such joy and enthusiasm. It inspires me to know more about math. Great to see him back!

  • @BRE3ZYE
    @BRE3ZYE 8 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Do you think there are numbers that pass this test 3 times?

    • @libinwang2267
      @libinwang2267 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +3ZYBRE percchance

    • @psionic0
      @psionic0 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Ryan Vickers Yes, and they don't :-)

    • @Eggemeyers
      @Eggemeyers 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's what I was wondering! Considering there are at least like 20 billion Wilson primes, I would imagine yes.

    • @Bluedragon2513
      @Bluedragon2513 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Easy, take a number, cube it, subtract one.
      Now find a number to match up to that with factorials.

    • @fancyprogrammer2040
      @fancyprogrammer2040 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Anthony Nguyen Now find a **prime** number to match up to that with factorials

  • @TrevorNestorsLab
    @TrevorNestorsLab 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate the way that math is presented in an exciting and interesting way that everybody can understand on this channel. I am a UC Berkeley alumni and think that we need more professors that make subject matter interesting like you (or you guys)

  • @AlRoderick
    @AlRoderick 10 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It's been a while since we've seen Dr. Grime, welcome back, sir.

  • @KunamaElgar
    @KunamaElgar 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how excited he is about proving this kind of thing. Wonderful to see generally unsung professionals getting an audience on this channel.

  • @ianw8479
    @ianw8479 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Shouldn't James know 7! is 5040? It's a highly composite number, as taught by the man himself

  • @jonathanfowler2932
    @jonathanfowler2932 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely great. Glad to see DR Grime back for more prime stuff. Love it.

  • @ZyphLegend
    @ZyphLegend 9 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Let's see, what is 7! Hmm... 5040
    *Zooms to calculator app*
    No! Don't show them that!

    • @Cloiss_
      @Cloiss_ 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zyph_Legend Me: *has 7 factorial memorized*

    • @katzen3314
      @katzen3314 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +EpikCloiss37 Sounds like a useful life skill. :) JK, I'm just as bad.

  • @renatoherren4217
    @renatoherren4217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This fellow reminds me of my favorite maths teacher. He looks like he did back then and he also shows the passion for maths my teacher had. 😎😎😎😎

  • @VulcanOnWheels
    @VulcanOnWheels 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2:33 Obviously not, because it's an odd number.

    • @katzen3314
      @katzen3314 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      +Bert Visscher I'm sure he knew that...

  • @rubiskelter
    @rubiskelter 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like this guy. Hope to see him in all the future numberphiles

  • @thechickennuggetoffate9139
    @thechickennuggetoffate9139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Question, James: Does 1 count as a prime when using this theorem? Because (1-1)! + 1 ÷ 1 = 0! + 1 ÷ 1 = 2 ÷ 1 = 2, which is an integer and would pass the test.

  • @onealrocky70
    @onealrocky70 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy this guy, expresses a true passion for math.

  • @Pepper-cd9yr
    @Pepper-cd9yr 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Am I the only one who thinks the redheaded mathemetition (sorry, don't know his name) is absolutely adorable?

    • @DanDart
      @DanDart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      +Pepper3961 He's Dr James Grime. Now you can stalk him :3

    • @bunbacheso
      @bunbacheso 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree.

    • @potatoheadpokemario1931
      @potatoheadpokemario1931 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Dan Dart HAHAHA

    • @XenophonSoulis
      @XenophonSoulis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanDart aka James Prime.

  • @FeetLikeFrodo
    @FeetLikeFrodo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for explaning even the easy things, I learn so much from these videos!

  • @adityaphanindra
    @adityaphanindra 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I felt so bad that your phone was almost completely discharged.

  • @robinbrowne5419
    @robinbrowne5419 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's a neat little test for primes 🙂👍

  • @BlazeCyndaquil
    @BlazeCyndaquil 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wait a second... He divided 5041 by 8 to see if it is divisible...
    Isn't it pretty obvious, seeing as 5041 is odd, and 8 is even? No need for a calculator.

    • @Halosty45
      @Halosty45 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, but since he was on camera, he likely wasn't thinking about it.

  • @PinkChucky15
    @PinkChucky15 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! So glad to see Dr. Grime back :-)

  • @HowardHughes33
    @HowardHughes33 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I know the answer! The number 5 is the number 5 and the number 5 is the first number in 563. The last number in 13 is the number 3 and the last number in 563 is also 3. The first number in 13 is 1 and the middle number in 563 is 6. Obviously, the number 1 is the drunk or cursive version of the number 6. Problem solved!

  • @deld9968
    @deld9968 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NICE TO SEE YOU BACK MAN!

  • @kiro9291
    @kiro9291 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "...5040."
    [camera points to phone with camera app]
    "don't show em that!"

  • @MicahGreaney
    @MicahGreaney 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I see Dr. Grime, I watch the video. I watch most of the others as well, but Dr. Grime guarantees I'll watch it.

  • @wassimwazzi539
    @wassimwazzi539 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    (2-1)! +1 = 2. 2 is divisible by 2

  • @webmediafactors4
    @webmediafactors4 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im going to try and find a way to use this in a program. it would be cool geekiness to have some kind of conditional system revolving around testing between primes, composites, and wilson primes as the 3 object types

  • @billlson
    @billlson 10 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hey, those are my primes

  • @reverberation_9
    @reverberation_9 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make a video on how the quadratic equation was made? I would love to see it.
    Keep up with this excellent work.

  • @martijnkemperman7689
    @martijnkemperman7689 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr James Grime, more like Dr. James Prime

  • @doltifantara
    @doltifantara 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I remember correctly John Wilson (1741 - 1793) was a contemporary with Gauss.
    He was a student of Edward Waring associated with Waring's problem.
    I think Wilson's theorem is amazing I sort of wish there was another way to understand why, if people want to know more about those numbers, the UTM prime pages would have more information.

  • @The123Christian
    @The123Christian 10 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Are there primes where you can do this three times?

    • @Kibadda123
      @Kibadda123 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Wanna find out?

    • @chmis3
      @chmis3 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well, you can easily check that neither of known Wilson primes do that so we have to wait for somebody to discover a new one and check it. Still, because there are probably infinitely many Wilson primes, there should be infinitely many that can do that n times.

    • @k-town5535
      @k-town5535 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      13 can.

    • @k-town5535
      @k-town5535 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      whoops. I read it as two times....

    • @sSunbeamM
      @sSunbeamM 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. It's Grahams Number + 1

  • @krappa
    @krappa 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    3 AM
    Scrolls through youtube feed one last time before going to bed
    Sees James Grine's face on a video.
    My sleep can wait 6 minutes

  • @VechtMalthos
    @VechtMalthos 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ack. That low battery!

  • @xanokothe
    @xanokothe 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has beeing a while James, nice to see you again!

  • @Forssa1
    @Forssa1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    4:05 Oh look, an iphone with low battery, how surprising.

  • @DanTheMan5420
    @DanTheMan5420 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neat video! I'm now inspired to find a new Wilson Prime!

  • @ThaNinjazTube
    @ThaNinjazTube 10 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Am I the only one that subbed to this channel for the mindfucks?

    • @hakoeski
      @hakoeski 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      The last Grahams number video blewmy mind!

    • @bartholomeusbelisari1865
      @bartholomeusbelisari1865 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Somehow I doubt that.
      I know I did.
      And, I also know that I am not the only one that clicked this video link for the seductive image they used for the thumbnail.

  • @SaidarSaraaah
    @SaidarSaraaah 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fell asleep and woke up to what I thought was you drawing on my tummy when i saw the beige paper!

  • @kamshik
    @kamshik 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That guy could have at least chosen a number that's not even, for this thing always gives odd results ..... (except for 1 and 0 I suppose. Also 1 is not prime but this thing makes it out to be)

  • @luckylarrylive427
    @luckylarrylive427 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Brady, I've noticed that we see James Grime less and less on this channel. You've done the Questionairre with him about his life, loves, and laughs and it really is interesting to get to know you guys in a way that only TH-cam can express. I'm currently going for my Bachelor's in 'maths' and was wondering if you could do a piece on some of your guests' paths to how they got to where they are, and what it takes to be a great mathematician.

  • @JLDoctorWho
    @JLDoctorWho 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "All primes and only primes pass this test."
    Counterexample: 1.
    (1-1)!+1 = 2
    2 is divisible by 1.
    1 is not prime. =>

    • @gamerdio2503
      @gamerdio2503 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1 is also not composite (lenny)

  • @senpaiii623
    @senpaiii623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:33 PERFECT SQUARE ALERT!!

  • @BrittBerg
    @BrittBerg 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wait....
    (P-1)! + 1
    If you fill in 1 for P you get:
    (1-1)! +1 = 2
    2 is divisible by 1, so 1 must be prime right? ;)
    ps. I know that 1 is actually not prime :)

    • @arnavnarula1534
      @arnavnarula1534 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. What we are saying is if the number is prime, it will follow this argument (in the video). We are not saying that if the number follows this argument, then it is prime. This is similar to saying all squares are rectangles, but we can't say that all rectangles are squares.

    • @nekoblitz
      @nekoblitz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arnav Narula You copy-pasted that. Wow. But he clearly states that ONLY prime numbers pass it, and that it is a 100% test.

    • @want-diversecontent3887
      @want-diversecontent3887 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flash Even though he did, look through the channel and he says 1 is not prime.

  • @ramiel555
    @ramiel555 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was going to ask about numbers that can do it 3 times in a row, but then I remembered that there were only the 3 Wilson primes discovered, and I imagine that, if any of them could, it would have been mentioned (or, rather, if 563 could, since we saw the other 2 in real time)

  • @goldenera7090
    @goldenera7090 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why didn't you say - (P-1)! + 1 is divisible by P-square??
    divisible by P twice means the same thing - in it??

  • @scratchcriminal
    @scratchcriminal 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love showing off these Formulas and amazing things about maths to my maths teachers!!!!

  • @dogquick6535
    @dogquick6535 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about 1, it passes the test for a prime number, and since it passes the test it must be a prime number, and it then passes the test for a Wilson prime, wouldn't 1 be a Wilson prime?

  • @kevinj4204
    @kevinj4204 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:44... I love the English and the grammar they use.

  • @MorRobots
    @MorRobots 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Factorial must seriously limit our ability to bruit force this test. Question is, what about one that divideds 3 times or is their a fundamental element to division of numbers that prevents this?

  • @Bombshocked
    @Bombshocked 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr James Prime.

  • @kxmode
    @kxmode 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Because 1 always divides to be 1 would this value be considered a Wilson prime? I realize people don't consider 1 to be a prime number, but it doesn't mean that 1 cannot be a Wilson Prime. It passes all the tests. :)
    Yes I know 1 doesn't really go anywhere, but it is still a value. A value of won! :D

    • @MartKencuda
      @MartKencuda 10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You answered your own question. 1 cannot be a Wilson Prime because 1 isn't prime in the first place.

    • @SabertoothSeal
      @SabertoothSeal 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well, let's see.
      (1-1)!+1
      =0!+1
      =1+1
      =2
      Two is divisible by one! Therefore, one is an "infinite" Wilson prime. Right?
      Actually, no. Despite Wilson's Theorem, one is not a prime. One is the positive real unit -- and units, by definition, cannot be primes as all primes are greater than their corresponding unit.

    • @Halosty45
      @Halosty45 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      The actual theorem does give an exception for +-1 in the claims to being prime numbers. However, that's a really good thought.

    • @kxmode
      @kxmode 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fredrick Everson You hear that science?! Primes are greater than their corresponding unit!

    • @kimf.wendel9113
      @kimf.wendel9113 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that answered something completely different for me, called Optimus Prime..! Thx!

  • @19Jackattack95
    @19Jackattack95 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad to see James back

  • @scottgauer7299
    @scottgauer7299 10 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Did a PhD mathematician just use a calculator to add one?

    • @squeakybunny2776
      @squeakybunny2776 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He also used a calculator to divide 721 by 7 i mean is it gonna get any easier

    • @Eggemeyers
      @Eggemeyers 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep, 3 key strokes instead of 10

    • @МихайлоСєльський
      @МихайлоСєльський 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ...and to check if 5041 is diviible by 8.)

    • @Alfetto8
      @Alfetto8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mathematics is not about counting, that's accounting.

    • @drmontorsi7498
      @drmontorsi7498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alfetto8
      As a person that is currently undergoing maths exams in his college career, I second that.
      As a person that has a diploma in accounting in high school, I feel offended.

  • @cellogirl0096
    @cellogirl0096 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay, welcome back, Dr. Grime!

  • @iAkrobat_
    @iAkrobat_ 9 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    if only prime numbers work with this AND 1 is not a prime, why is
    (1-1)! + 1
    0! + 1
    1+1
    2
    divisible by 1?
    MWAHAHA :D

    • @epiSkoglund
      @epiSkoglund 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Jeens Ko, 1 is not a prime number by definition even though it has the properties for it. Any integer should be able to divide into an unique prime factorization. If 1 was a prime number "21" could be 7*3 OR 7*3*1*1*1*1... eg. not unique. That´s why. They have a video about it.

    • @MMrandomdude12
      @MMrandomdude12 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jeens Ko Damn, I thought someone else would have already noticed this.

    • @chaimlukasmaier335
      @chaimlukasmaier335 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Wolfgang Ambrus i just watched the video and noticed this :)

    • @katzen3314
      @katzen3314 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      0! isn't 1 is it??? It still works either way.

    • @excelelmira
      @excelelmira 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Katzen4u It is. Although the ordinary definition fails for zero, the common consensus is that 0! is counted as 1

  • @GirGir183
    @GirGir183 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:18 I thought you were writing them on someone's bare back for a second.

  • @brandonwalsh7681
    @brandonwalsh7681 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    then technically 1 is a prime and a Wilson prime as (1-1)!+1=0!+1=2 and 2 is divisible by 1 and infinite number of times. so correct me if i am wrong then is this test not the most perfect because as you said in another video 1 is not a prime.

  • @willk7184
    @willk7184 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, I memorized 562! awhile back, and now I finally have a use for it.

  • @mahmoudelsharawy5405
    @mahmoudelsharawy5405 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Butm if you use Wilson's Theorem, can I prove that 1 is prime?

    • @rahulbansode1537
      @rahulbansode1537 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mahmoud Elsharawy u can divide anything by 1

    • @mahmoudelsharawy5405
      @mahmoudelsharawy5405 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya, that is my point.

    • @arnavnarula1534
      @arnavnarula1534 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. What we are saying is if the number is prime, it will follow this argument (in the video). We are not saying that if the number follows this argument, then it is prime. This is similar to saying all squares are rectangles, but we can't say that all rectangles are squares.

    • @mahmoudelsharawy5405
      @mahmoudelsharawy5405 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But at 0:36 he says, "And it ONLY works for Primes"

    • @ailderwitha5591
      @ailderwitha5591 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1 = (1-1) = 0! = 1 + 1 = 2/1 = 2/1 = 2/1 = 2/1 = continuous.

  • @marttiranta469
    @marttiranta469 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    NEW VIDEO NEW VIDEO OMG! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SO LONG!!! And with Dr Grime as well!

  • @bengtbengt3850
    @bengtbengt3850 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is actually a number that is not Prime that works on this test. Its 1.

    • @CDLatin
      @CDLatin 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 never counts for these things haha

    • @katzen3314
      @katzen3314 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you have to do 0! which apparently = 1 but it doesn't sound right to me.

    • @bengtbengt3850
      @bengtbengt3850 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Katzen4u meh anything to the power of 0 is also one. Does that sound right? Of course it does, Because its an empty product which is equal to one.
      0! Is kind of an empty product too Because you dont really have any factors there either do you?

    • @katzen3314
      @katzen3314 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeasker S I see. There seem to be quite a few patterns like this that suggest that 0! is equal to 1.

    • @maxenis1577
      @maxenis1577 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. It's similar to x^0 equals one: unintuitive but mathematically solid.

  • @Jamie-st6of
    @Jamie-st6of 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I should be doing my algebra homework right now. But this is so much more useful.

  • @6446henry
    @6446henry 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    1 passes the test. The only non prime that passes the test..
    (1-1)! =0+1 = 1... Well 1 isn't Composite.. Wait. 1 passes infinite times!!

    • @esuelle
      @esuelle 10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      0! = 1 actually, but it would still be 2/1 which would pass infinitely aswell. I guess it's because 1 is special?

    • @6446henry
      @6446henry 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Esuerre oops I actually did the math wrong by accident.
      (1-1)! = 1 + 1 = 2

    • @yousorooo
      @yousorooo 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 is not a prime though

    • @6446henry
      @6446henry 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derek Leung I said that..

    • @Halosty45
      @Halosty45 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you look up the actual theorem, there's an exception for +-1 written in.

  • @whochew5573
    @whochew5573 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk why i just like james the best for these videos

  • @matsv201
    @matsv201 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well, one then?
    (1-1)!+1=1
    1/1=1.... 1/1=1... and so on...
    But one is no prime, or is it?

    • @PassingTimeAlong
      @PassingTimeAlong 10 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      One is not a prime number.

    • @MrTridac
      @MrTridac 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      (1-1)!+1 / 1 = 2
      But it would still "pass" the test.

    • @Dsiefus
      @Dsiefus 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      In fact 0! = 1, so 0! + 1 = 2

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, the problem with one is that tho there is some prime test it dont pases, it pases most, almost all... i would say that is almost a matter of opinion. I heard math professors stat both statment...
      "because it behaves differently from all the other primes. "
      Froudian slipp there my friend ;)

    • @ScilexGuitar
      @ScilexGuitar 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      dsiefus How do you get 0!=1? 0x0=0

  • @VojtaMaur
    @VojtaMaur 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wilson's theorem in python:
    import math
    p=int(input("Enter the number: "))
    x=(math.factorial(p-1)+1)%p
    if x==0:
    print("PRIME!")
    else:
    print("NOT PIRME...")

  • @MozartJunior22
    @MozartJunior22 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We have a foolproof test for primes? Why are we not funding this?

    • @aliciabutteriss6274
      @aliciabutteriss6274 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Wilson Theorem? My guess is because factorials get *really* unwieldy as n grows larger (like, ridiculously so). For the massive primes that we're looking for now (millions of digits long - the current largest prime has over 17 million digits), it's functionally impossible to run the test. At any rate, there are other tests, and they're considerably quicker to run (and 'easier' computationally) - Wikipedia has more information on this topic: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primality_test

    • @MozartJunior22
      @MozartJunior22 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this like Mill's Constant?

    • @aliciabutteriss6274
      @aliciabutteriss6274 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly don't know. Edit: Just watched the additional video, I don't even know if my original comment is remotely accurate (well, the first part at least).Double edit: Actually, I *think* I'm about right on the issue with using Wilson's, but I'm not sure.

    • @MozartJunior22
      @MozartJunior22 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alicia Butteriss Look up the Numberphile video about Mill's constant

    • @goatlink
      @goatlink 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      he said it in the video, its because using the test on large primes includes getting the factorial of p-1 which would be so stupidly big that it couldn't be done with modern computers.

  • @Dennys787
    @Dennys787 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    While everyone is commenting about the Brown Paper, i am here marvelous by the Sharpies. Those things are expensive, yet every single video features Sharpies, and sometimes more than one

  • @randomasdf97
    @randomasdf97 10 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    IMHO the numberphile crew were foolish to come up with such a title.
    "What do 5, 13 and 563 have in common?" doesn't fit, why not something like e.g. "5,13, 563 and Wilson Primes". If a person wants to find out something about the Wilson primes on youtube, how's he gonna find this video huh?

    • @numberphile
      @numberphile  10 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      randomasdf97 might change the title later when the video moves from "new, fun and curious" to "old archive resource"... Wilson Primes are in the description and meta data though!
      Yours in Foolishness
      Numberphile Crew

    • @6446henry
      @6446henry 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Umm it actually can't be called 5, 13, 563 and Wilson Primes. Because those are the only ones found.

    • @MordecaiV
      @MordecaiV 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Numberphile I don't see wilson primes in the description?

    • @randomasdf97
      @randomasdf97 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** me neither.. and I also typed in the search 'wilson primes numberphile' & this video appeared on the 3rd page only :/

    • @jacksainthill8974
      @jacksainthill8974 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not only that, the question as it was put is banal - for example, the three numbers have an infinite list of trivial commonalities such as 'none is equal to 78' and so on.

  • @00Skyfox
    @00Skyfox 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you on here again, James! Where ya' been?

  • @thetruth2055
    @thetruth2055 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He spits at 0:50.. lol

  • @longevitee
    @longevitee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to see them do an episode using Cliff's massive calculator.

  • @Generalfeldm4rschall
    @Generalfeldm4rschall 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Grime is just an wonderful person

  • @MrLmmckenzie
    @MrLmmckenzie 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, Dr. Grime is back!

  • @nochthitus9397
    @nochthitus9397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    maths is basically loads of guys who spotted "neat tricks" or huge numbers and put their names to it/them

  • @skoockum
    @skoockum 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice interlude music. Very refreshing.

  • @GrouPHuGgaming
    @GrouPHuGgaming 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most satisfying channel on youtube

  • @venkybabu8140
    @venkybabu8140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Factorials means exponential line. Ordinary line means increasing curve. So they cross some places. Usually Pi is straight for wave.

  • @JackDrewitt
    @JackDrewitt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THEY ARE ALL ODD!!!! _*mind-blowing_

  • @JayTemple
    @JayTemple 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a huge, longtime fan of the Pyramid game show. Sometimes I think of end-game categories for target audiences. (For example, the ordinary show would have FAMOUS BASEBALL PLAYERS, but a show with sports fans would include SHORTSTOPS.) I could have a mid-level category of TYPES OF PRIME NUMBERS.