Can’t imagine being a Viking historian and working on this film and having a director that actually cares about what kind of nails Vikings used on longboats. Brilliance reveals itself when you don’t cut corners.
very brilliant statements from Eggers about the misappropriation of viking culture by the far right. it’s a big reason why many don’t feel comfortable learning about that interesting culture.
The point is there is a lot of other culture in countries like Norway , Sweden , Iceland that has nothing to do with Vikings . These countries have a medieval history of monarchy , aristocrats like many other countries in Europe . Scandinavians perhaps are thinking why is Hollywood only representing Scandinavians from the perspective of Vikings . Far right groups only focus on Vikings because of the brutal aggression associated with Vikings
Tolkien hated how the nazi's did this. The Germanic/Norse culture is beautifull and rich, and he took so much inspiration from it - and then the Nazi's came in and took it and abused it, making it something that it wasn't. "I have in this War a burning private grudge-which would probably make me a better soldier at 49 than I was at 22: against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler ... Ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making for ever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light."
I completely understand what Robert Eggers is saying, But a thousand years ago, almost every culture was a Patriarchy and had slavery. The thing is, Western Culture ended slavery. Slavery still exists in other countries and they still treat women like garbage today.
For me doesn't make sense whats was told. Viking poem and history had a tons of slavery, betrayals, blood, invasion, rape, murder. Thats it was. For me, what I care in a movie is history accuracy, or a very well written script.
I hear people are upset there were no black actors in this movie. that would be like me being upset because there were no white actors playing Bantu in "Zulu"....
I agree! They just recently made a film Mulan, and it’s based on Chinese mythology. For this film they have casted proper Asian actors, which is the right way to do it, because you want to stay loyal to Chinese mythology. Why can’t they allow the same for the mythology of ethnic Europeans. There are many people who are not ethnic Europeans who actually liked that this film didn’t have multiculturalism in it, and that the Northman was made with proper ethnic European actors to stay loyal to that part of history and mythology.
It’s weird how when it comes to other ethnic cultures like Native Americans for example, nobody ever says that they are misappropriating anything. When they do it, it’s always oh they are just trying to preserve their ethnicity, or they are just trying to protect their ethnic identity, but of course as soon as an ethnic European does the same thing they call it misappropriation, racism, or something else negative. I thought this film was done well. Very accurate historically and in this day and age it’s like a breath of fresh air. And why is everyone pretending like slavery wasn’t practiced by literally almost every culture back in the olden days? Slavery is an unfortunate part of the human history, and it still exists even till this day, only illegal. If you want to make films about history or based on historical themes, then you cannot just erase the existence of slavery. Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn’t mean that it did not exist. There are lots of uncomfortable disturbing things in human history, and if you are lover of history, then you are going to accept the entire thing just as it happened
Patriarcal society: There were not many places during that time, where a woman had more freedom and more rights than in the Norse culture. Machos: Yeah Im sure if men back then just had embraced their femininity, it would have served them well... Slaves: Because thats not something practicly every culture has practised at some time, some not even a millennia ago, but even today.. This is what happen when you are so ignorant that you apply todays morale values, on a social system thousands of years old.
@@accidentcellar6307 Older females are no good. She wont look any good in twenty years. She wont be able to score him in twenty years, she'll be over forty by then.
Can’t imagine being a Viking historian and working on this film and having a director that actually cares about what kind of nails Vikings used on longboats. Brilliance reveals itself when you don’t cut corners.
This movie is a natural progression from The Lighthouse. The Northman is a masterfully executed and art directed sensory experience.
Jus watched this last night. Amazing movie and both of them killed it!!
Best damned movie that I have seen in years. The wife and I were blown away!
very brilliant statements from Eggers about the misappropriation of viking culture by the far right. it’s a big reason why many don’t feel comfortable learning about that interesting culture.
The point is there is a lot of other culture in countries like Norway , Sweden , Iceland that has nothing to do with Vikings . These countries have a medieval history of monarchy , aristocrats like many other countries in Europe . Scandinavians perhaps are thinking why is Hollywood only representing Scandinavians from the perspective of Vikings . Far right groups only focus on Vikings because of the brutal aggression associated with Vikings
Tolkien hated how the nazi's did this. The Germanic/Norse culture is beautifull and rich, and he took so much inspiration from it - and then the Nazi's came in and took it and abused it, making it something that it wasn't.
"I have in this War a burning private grudge-which would probably make me a better soldier at 49 than I was at 22: against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler ... Ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making for ever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light."
I completely understand what Robert Eggers is saying, But a thousand years ago, almost every culture was a Patriarchy and had slavery. The thing is, Western Culture ended slavery. Slavery still exists in other countries and they still treat women like garbage today.
For me doesn't make sense whats was told. Viking poem and history had a tons of slavery, betrayals, blood, invasion, rape, murder. Thats it was. For me, what I care in a movie is history accuracy, or a very well written script.
Can you give me at least one good example of what you mean by the far right misappropriating the Vikings. I’m just curious to know
Alex listens particularly hard to the questions lol
His best movie yet. A masterpiece
I hear people are upset there were no black actors in this movie. that would be like me being upset because there were no white actors playing Bantu in "Zulu"....
I agree! They just recently made a film Mulan, and it’s based on Chinese mythology. For this film they have casted proper Asian actors, which is the right way to do it, because you want to stay loyal to Chinese mythology. Why can’t they allow the same for the mythology of ethnic Europeans. There are many people who are not ethnic Europeans who actually liked that this film didn’t have multiculturalism in it, and that the Northman was made with proper ethnic European actors to stay loyal to that part of history and mythology.
@@karinanalbandyan3009 Thank you. glad Im not alone in this. which country are you from? Im Norwegian of course....hehe
literally nobody was upset.
it would be good to know the difference between Berserker and Ulfhednar. He is the latter...in the movie.
It’s weird how when it comes to other ethnic cultures like Native Americans for example, nobody ever says that they are misappropriating anything. When they do it, it’s always oh they are just trying to preserve their ethnicity, or they are just trying to protect their ethnic identity, but of course as soon as an ethnic European does the same thing they call it misappropriation, racism, or something else negative. I thought this film was done well. Very accurate historically and in this day and age it’s like a breath of fresh air. And why is everyone pretending like slavery wasn’t practiced by literally almost every culture back in the olden days? Slavery is an unfortunate part of the human history, and it still exists even till this day, only illegal. If you want to make films about history or based on historical themes, then you cannot just erase the existence of slavery. Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn’t mean that it did not exist. There are lots of uncomfortable disturbing things in human history, and if you are lover of history, then you are going to accept the entire thing just as it happened
Patriarcal society: There were not many places during that time, where a woman had more freedom and more rights than in the Norse culture. Machos: Yeah Im sure if men back then just had embraced their femininity, it would have served them well... Slaves: Because thats not something practicly every culture has practised at some time, some not even a millennia ago, but even today.. This is what happen when you are so ignorant that you apply todays morale values, on a social system thousands of years old.
Oh great show me more shyt I missed out on when I was 26
Looking Like That...
It's Not Difficult to "Break Mens Minds"!
Hmm, body language..... maybe they don't get on so well.
Really? I'm more wondering if they got it on. He likes looking at her and she is stunning.
@@accidentcellar6307 Older females are no good. She wont look any good in twenty years. She wont be able to score him in twenty years, she'll be over forty by then.
@@accidentcellar6307 no its fine. I'm surprised he's 45 though, he looks like he's mid 30's
@@accidentcellar6307 really?.......as long as people are of age and are able to consent..