Good informative video 👍. Makes the Ford Transit and the various Stellantis contraptions on sale in Europe look like a outdated dinosaurs ! More competition is a good thing to make progress
@@InsideChinaAuto Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm impressed at the speed in bringing a model to the market. It normally takes legacy car makers years from concept to production for a model to be launched. Chinese car makers seem to be doing development and all testing in six to twelve months. How realistic is this ?
@user-oc4qe6mj6n They're very much capable of doing so in as little as 18 months generally. Greater use of CAD modelling, faster access to supply chains so faster iteration of products, and greater innovation in general.
Base models for super van by farizon or is the name geely. Can't keep up with the different names. Base price is $18k USD? These are 200+ miles range I thought there was a 500 miles range van from China somewhere
I just got back to Europe after a 3 week trip to China and was absolutely blown away! I would often ask what's taking legacy auto makers so long, & getting long winded responses blah blah. The Chinese have done it. They're miles ahead! I knew it was possible, just got to stop dragging your feet Europe!
Thanks for posting, yes, you were right - I have been waiting for this video to arrive. When you mentioned that it has V2L, I was delighted, just what is needed in these vans. Well done Farizon. Now I have to wait again to see if they are coming to Ireland (in right-hand drive) and what price they will be. I'm sure they will undercut the Transit, the question is by how much? i also hope the rear bench of seats are easily removeable from the high roof version.
I think everything is removable with a screwdriver or socket set. I know they're at least coming to the Republic but that would be LHD, but given how the steering isn't limited by mechanicals, its likely they'll offer RHD versions at some point so stay tuned.
Would really love an 8 by 4 sheet on edge test. That’s the key for me along with plus 200 miles real range. Ps never heard of this before now thank you
Mate you continually impress on your level of knowledge. Many car journos know jack all about vans. Well done! Do you have many cuts? The delivery of info is seamless!
Haha, thanks for the compliment. I do have cuts, sometimes more, sometimes less, though in the driving I'll often get into a flow and after a few failed attempts will get one complete flow in one go. You say things enough times and eventually the numbers stick. Good preparation is key.
Hi Mark, I nearly wasn't going to watch a review on a van because I love cars but actually I really love the review very informative, and certainly these are important to progress the Ev Revolution, looks like an excellent van I really hope it does come in at a competitive price here in Australia. Keep up the good work, hoping you'll review the Zeekr 007, and xiaomi su7, definitely looking forward to the Beijing motor show , you're are lucky man 😂. John in Melbourne
Cheers John. Always appreciate you taking the time, to watch and to comment. It should go to Australia, I can't see any reason why not. We're getting closer to reviewing both so they'll be here soon I'm sure.
@@InsideChinaAuto Yes I did. The thing is to find that awesome van in Europe 🙏😂 China is unstoppable in the technology of the electrical automobile industry 🥰
I would certainly consider one for my next Camper van build. You compare it a lot to the transit. You mean the transit Custom I take it? The big Transit cabine looks way bigger. What speed did you do for that consumption? My Van does 27kWh/100km at 100/h
The consumption figures are what are claimed on Ford's UK website for the big e-Transit and the same for Farizon's numbers as we didn't have a representative drive to test that fully. The comparison is to the big Transit because they're about 5.5-6.0 metres long, though Ford does a longer one that's also taller too I believe and the SuperVAN doesn't come with that variant.
@@InsideChinaAuto the volume in a H2 might be oke. I found the cockpit looked smaller though. Still interesting to see what real world figures will give. 66kWh is nice with 17kWh/100. To less with 30/100 😉
I’ve a 6.4m Ducato. This looks like a really strong electric competitor. Fiat, Mercedes: get in gear or you won’t have a van business inside the decade.
If something like comes to the US, we have to think about how to keep it running long after the manufacture leaves the US or goes out of business. You need to know you will get support from somewhere if everything goes to hell. Nothing like understanding and fixing things you own yourself... but are those days long gone?
We have a bit of a throwaway culture these days, it's mostly in undeveloped areas where they still fix stuff and do real handiwork. I think we need to teach more handiwork skills myself, I love fixing old stuff. Would have no idea where to start with an EV.
@@InsideChinaAuto Right, same here. I would think you at least have the chassis, body, drivetrain and battery. But the computer and OS would likely be lost with little chance of being overridden without a 3rd party. If only a manufacture came in thinking about an open source platform and possibly manual overrides where the car could drive with no computer at all.
Unfortunately until it’s in the Uk on sale it’s just a pipe dream they might bring it here or might not our market is not a priority to the Chinese vehicle producers
Toyota licenced the Hiace design out to loads of companies in China and I'm pretty sure they already do electric versions of it. Farizon is one of them actually.
All they need to do is fully resolve the styling and remove the Chinese script ..and the people driving VW T5s and T6s today - this is what they'll move on to. If it looks good, it's reliable and cheap enough to buy and to run, today's European made everyday vehicles will become a thing of the past.
@Sparkyoleano You've got plenty more enemies in the world before the Chinese but feel free to fall for everything the media tells you hook, line, and sinker.
@Sparkyoleano I assume nothing. Media all over spreads anti-China crap these days because they can't accept a nation they just to bully getting so strong.
A rather lame video... No handling specific information like turning radius etc... regenerative braking etc. You might as well be an 'independent employee'.
All the wonderful products and innovation not allowed in the US. Delay delay and wait so every last drop of profit is sucked out of our oil reserves by giant gas guzzling Trucks and SUVs.
It's all part of a master plan to keep the population in debt and working. Conflict and fear keeps the population energized, engaged and motivated. We could easily create a carefree, debt free socialist utopia that would not last even 10 years before collapsing or being overtaken.
Hopefully these vans come to Europe. I'm still waiting for a electric camper van to be sold in Europe, still nada.
Exactly. The high roof versions would make a wonderful size.
They are coming to Europe. Some countries confirmed already, no doubt more to come.
@@InsideChinaAuto not more unsold vehicles clogging up our ports 😂.
@@andrewharris3900 Why not? All of Japan and Europe's unsold vehicles are clogging up fields in China. I've even got a video showing it.
Need to build your own currently. I did. Was tired of waiting 😊
Good informative video 👍. Makes the Ford Transit and the various Stellantis contraptions on sale in Europe look like a outdated dinosaurs ! More competition is a good thing to make progress
Competition breeds better products indeed.
@@InsideChinaAuto Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm impressed at the speed in bringing a model to the market. It normally takes legacy car makers years from concept to production for a model to be launched. Chinese car makers seem to be doing development and all testing in six to twelve months. How realistic is this ?
@user-oc4qe6mj6n They're very much capable of doing so in as little as 18 months generally. Greater use of CAD modelling, faster access to supply chains so faster iteration of products, and greater innovation in general.
Base models for super van by farizon or is the name geely. Can't keep up with the different names. Base price is $18k USD? These are 200+ miles range I thought there was a 500 miles range van from China somewhere
I just got back to Europe after a 3 week trip to China and was absolutely blown away! I would often ask what's taking legacy auto makers so long, & getting long winded responses blah blah. The Chinese have done it. They're miles ahead! I knew it was possible, just got to stop dragging your feet Europe!
Great van and if priced correctly, it will sale very well for the camper fans! 👏👏👏
BTW: I love your style when making these videos! 👍👍
Thanks Johnny. Very much appreciated, and I'm sure this van will do very well.
Nothing makes me more optimistic than watching your videos.
Haha. I hope that isn't sarcasm.
Thanks for posting, yes, you were right - I have been waiting for this video to arrive. When you mentioned that it has V2L, I was delighted, just what is needed in these vans. Well done Farizon. Now I have to wait again to see if they are coming to Ireland (in right-hand drive) and what price they will be. I'm sure they will undercut the Transit, the question is by how much? i also hope the rear bench of seats are easily removeable from the high roof version.
I think everything is removable with a screwdriver or socket set. I know they're at least coming to the Republic but that would be LHD, but given how the steering isn't limited by mechanicals, its likely they'll offer RHD versions at some point so stay tuned.
Would really love an 8 by 4 sheet on edge test. That’s the key for me along with plus 200 miles real range. Ps never heard of this before now thank you
Should definitely do the 200 miles plus real range. I'd have to get the equipment and the tallest, biggest van for the other one I guess.
I waited so long for this and now there is a light on the horizon.
Getting there slowly. Should be a hit.
That passenger type, is good for campervan conversation
It is.
Mate you continually impress on your level of knowledge. Many car journos know jack all about vans. Well done! Do you have many cuts? The delivery of info is seamless!
Haha, thanks for the compliment. I do have cuts, sometimes more, sometimes less, though in the driving I'll often get into a flow and after a few failed attempts will get one complete flow in one go. You say things enough times and eventually the numbers stick. Good preparation is key.
Do you have plans of filming at the big car expos in China this year again? Loved the both videos from Shanghai and Guangzhou.
Absolutely. Beijing in a few weeks should be pretty special and the biggest show of the year. Thanks for watching! Glad you like them.
Will be great in Australia, campervan!
A lot of people are looking forward to it exactly for that function.
Looking forward to your test of the Xiaomi SU7
As am I. Hope to get one at some point.
Hi Mark,
I nearly wasn't going to watch a review on a van because I love cars but actually I really love the review very informative, and certainly these are important to progress the Ev Revolution, looks like an excellent van I really hope it does come in at a competitive price here in Australia.
Keep up the good work, hoping you'll review the Zeekr 007, and xiaomi su7, definitely looking forward to the Beijing motor show , you're are lucky man 😂.
John in Melbourne
Cheers John. Always appreciate you taking the time, to watch and to comment. It should go to Australia, I can't see any reason why not. We're getting closer to reviewing both so they'll be here soon I'm sure.
Great video! I have a question: Is it possible to remove the back seats and change it into a camper van?
Check our first video on the SuperVAN and you'll get your answer. 😁
@@InsideChinaAuto I did and thank you 😁
@Dimi1982. Haha, you're welcome. Knew you'd find your answer there.
@@InsideChinaAuto Yes I did. The thing is to find that awesome van in Europe 🙏😂
China is unstoppable in the technology of the electrical automobile industry 🥰
@Dimi1982. Farizon is confirmed for some European countries already and is going to be announcing more in the coming months so stay tuned I guess.
I would certainly consider one for my next Camper van build.
You compare it a lot to the transit. You mean the transit Custom I take it?
The big Transit cabine looks way bigger. What speed did you do for that consumption?
My Van does 27kWh/100km at 100/h
The consumption figures are what are claimed on Ford's UK website for the big e-Transit and the same for Farizon's numbers as we didn't have a representative drive to test that fully.
The comparison is to the big Transit because they're about 5.5-6.0 metres long, though Ford does a longer one that's also taller too I believe and the SuperVAN doesn't come with that variant.
@@InsideChinaAuto the volume in a H2 might be oke. I found the cockpit looked smaller though.
Still interesting to see what real world figures will give. 66kWh is nice with 17kWh/100. To less with 30/100 😉
I’ve a 6.4m Ducato. This looks like a really strong electric competitor. Fiat, Mercedes: get in gear or you won’t have a van business inside the decade.
Indeed. These guys need to make a longer van though for that top end.
Hmm version with range extender not out yet?
Done believe they're offering one just yet.
What is the battery life for one charge and what is the price of the cargo
Price will depend on the market you buy in presumably. Info about charge should be in the video.
Hope they come to Australia ❤
I'd say there's a decent chance of that.
Competition drives innovation
Exactly.
Do you know anything about BYD E RV coming out as comparison?
Not heard anything about an E-RV coming out from BYD, that's news to me, but I'll certainly ask them.
That looks more like the interior of a MG4 with the small screens in alike maybe it’s part of the MG brand group
Farizon is part of Geely
What the other guy said.
Please feature micro cars Chery EQ1 2024 version and Baojun E100 🙏🙏🙏
Will do my best.
If something like comes to the US, we have to think about how to keep it running long after the manufacture leaves the US or goes out of business. You need to know you will get support from somewhere if everything goes to hell. Nothing like understanding and fixing things you own yourself... but are those days long gone?
We have a bit of a throwaway culture these days, it's mostly in undeveloped areas where they still fix stuff and do real handiwork. I think we need to teach more handiwork skills myself, I love fixing old stuff. Would have no idea where to start with an EV.
@@InsideChinaAuto Right, same here. I would think you at least have the chassis, body, drivetrain and battery. But the computer and OS would likely be lost with little chance of being overridden without a 3rd party. If only a manufacture came in thinking about an open source platform and possibly manual overrides where the car could drive with no computer at all.
@whenufirstrealized Certainly not on this one as it's steer-by-wire, no physical connection to the wheels.
They will need decent batteries so they dont go up in smoke and to stop range anxiety!
Don't think that'll be an issue.
@@InsideChinaAuto 👍
No need extra air conditioner, saving space in campervan!
Indeed
Unfortunately until it’s in the Uk on sale it’s just a pipe dream they might bring it here or might not our market is not a priority to the Chinese vehicle producers
Luckily I know more than you do on this. Stay tuned. 🤫
Oh no. a modern version of the Fiat Multipla
It's a bit more attractive in fairness.
NEED A TOYOTA HIACE EVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Toyota licenced the Hiace design out to loads of companies in China and I'm pretty sure they already do electric versions of it. Farizon is one of them actually.
All they need to do is fully resolve the styling and remove the Chinese script ..and the people driving VW T5s and T6s today - this is what they'll move on to. If it looks good, it's reliable and cheap enough to buy and to run, today's European made everyday vehicles will become a thing of the past.
That seems to be where the future is going.
Cold day in hell before I support the Chinese auto industry
Still came for a look though didn't you, Gerry?
@@InsideChinaAuto like the old saying goes, know your enemy
@Sparkyoleano You've got plenty more enemies in the world before the Chinese but feel free to fall for everything the media tells you hook, line, and sinker.
@@InsideChinaAuto I’m assuming you think I’m American
@Sparkyoleano I assume nothing. Media all over spreads anti-China crap these days because they can't accept a nation they just to bully getting so strong.
Bit boi turck
I believe Turkey has been confirmed but I could be wrong.
Quite Disappointing, it started as a camper van now it's gutted and empty, two different things mate.
Oh you can get both, it's just that the second time they had the van versions to show.
Ford e transit needs a 101 mah hour battery TABARNAK
It does.
A rather lame video... No handling specific information like turning radius etc... regenerative braking etc. You might as well be an 'independent employee'.
The van wasn't licensed for use on the road so the maximum I could do was make use of the internal roads and test track at the factory.
17.1 kWh/km... first see in reality then believe.
It's CLTC so it won't be that for sure, but I said that in the video too.
@@InsideChinaAuto I know but we were so used to NEDC and then take off a bunch, now have to compare again haha
@@gronz Yeah, it's a nightmare. I live it every one of these reviews. Too many different standards.
300 miles is madly disappointing for a long as van,this not even that bare minimum
Are there any out there offering more or even close to this? Didn't think so.
@@InsideChinaAutolots, but they run in real fuel
60 K???? lol....
Who said it's 60k?
@@InsideChinaAuto you did, at the end of the video 😅
@robertbidochon7949 No, I said the Maxus e-Deliver 9 starts at £63k. This is the Farizon SuperVAN and there are no European prices yet.
@@InsideChinaAuto my bad ! thanks for the info
All the wonderful products and innovation not allowed in the US. Delay delay and wait so every last drop of profit is sucked out of our oil reserves by giant gas guzzling Trucks and SUVs.
Sad, eh? The US could do so much good with what it has and the talent on board but squanders it on unnecessary wars and guns.
It's all part of a master plan to keep the population in debt and working. Conflict and fear keeps the population energized, engaged and motivated. We could easily create a carefree, debt free socialist utopia that would not last even 10 years before collapsing or being overtaken.