@@YuriYoshiosan As does "mayday mayday", but both are just signal words for priority or urgent messages. You are expected to give the emergency message after that. Example: "Mayday, mayday, maday, the A320 at gate 12 has fire under the left fuselage."
Basically it just all means: Fox one Indicates launch of a semi-active radar-guided missile (such as the AIM-7 Sparrow). Fox two Indicates launch of an infrared-guided missile (such as the AIM-9 Sidewinder). Fox three Indicates launch of an active radar-guided missile (such as the AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-54 Phoenix). Fox four Historical term indicating air-to-air or air-to-surface cannon fire. The term in current usage is Guns, Guns, Guns.
There's actually quite a big difference between a fox 1 and a fox 3. fox 1 is SARH and fox 3 is active radar. A SARH missile basically has a radar seeker in it's head but no emitter, it relies on the lauch aircraft to keep radar lock throughout the entire course. This means the lauch aircraft's radar stays in STT (single target track) mode and cannot search or track other targets. A fox 3 or Active radar missile has its own seeker AND emitter however the emitter has very short range. It doesn't require the launch aircraft to paint the target but only provide guidance updates via info link. This means aircraft with a radar that has TWS (track while scan) mode and search and track multiple targets at a time AND potentially guide multiple missile to multiple targets, something that SARH can never do.
I've read somewhere quite some time ago, that at least for Radar guided SAMs it is common for the operators to fire the missile unguided in front of the target and switch on the targeting systems as late as possible so the target doesnt get a missile lock warning until the last second. Don't know if thats true though.
Note the brown band on the back of the Fox-2 Sidewinder and yellow up front. A brown band means live motor on the missile and yellow means high explosives. It's a full live round.
Important things to know if you are engaging with Fox-3 : When the missile goes pitbull it will engage automatically the first thing it sees, not necessarily the enemy you are targeting. This is why when you are shooting those, you must ensure a CAF (clear avenue of fire = no friendlies in the path of the missile) Also if you loose the lock at some point when the missile is still in passive mode it will continue in inertial navigation, extrapolating the position of the target you are shooting at and go active at the point it is supposed to find the target. Again this is important to know (= do not shoot if you dont have a CAF or you might end up shooting the friendly you are trying to save).
That's only true for the AIM-120A/B. The newer variants won't reacquire unless it can verify from a guiding AC(launching vehicle, another fighter, or AWACS) via data link(DTDMA, that link gets broken fairly early on so it can use active tracking sooner). If it can't verify target position after it loses tracking it raises its altitude and detonates. I remember all this from days of testing those guidance systems when I was still in the USAF. They just simply don't actively hunt for any target anymore.
indeed but as far as I know, that behavior is not modeled in DCS (or Falcon BMS). By the way, DCS should really correct their guiding routine for the AMRAAMs.
Fox-1:s (SARH Semi-Active Radar Homing Missiles) do have seeker heads, because they home on the reflected radar energy from the target, initially emitted by the launch platform. The difference between Fox-1:s and Fox-3:s (ARH Active Radar Homing Missiles) is that the Fox-3 has an active seeker head which homes on its own reflected energy once it goes pitbull. This means that, for a Fox-1, a RWR will only warn you about the launch platform's radar, and never of the missile itself. For Fox-3s it might vary. A launch in TWS might not initially trigger a launch or lock warning because the launch platform's radar still scans for additional targets. (Whether a TWS can trigger a RWR lock warning could possibly vary depending on how different types of radar operate in TWS mode) That's why you can launch several AMRAAM:s, which can also receive mid-course update via data link. Once a Fox-3 goes pitbull it will trigger the RWR. A RWS/STT lock can trigger a launch warning because a single target is being tracked. Also, remember to be familiar with the RWR coverage of different aircraft, as there are blind spots above and below the aircraft due to antenna placement. Fox-2:s will never by themselves alert a RWR. More info: www.ausairpower.net/TE-Radar-AAMs.html
First sentence was exactly the information i was looking for. Thanks for that. I always found missile guidance systems to be one of the most fascinating military technologies out there. Impressive how far we have come from doves, trained to peck at the picture of a ship, inside a bomb.
LeothirNanirhandel Fox 1 is also used to describe missiles that operate by radio guidance (Like described in video). As for Fox2 and RWR that's true but misleading. Current gen fighters can detect passive IR missiles with resounding accuracy as long as they have LoS. They just don't use a RWR to do so.
Drew P. What you're saying isn't entirely true. It is correct that many modern combat aircraft have Missile Warning Systems that use IR detectors instead of EM sensors to detect the approaching weapon, and that's can even warned against non radar guided missiles. However, their effectiveness is highly variable and debatable. Even the best ones might not be able to detect a missile from a purely front aspect (i.e. dead on the nose), or at least not until it's far too late for any effective evasive action. This is especially true for the newer versions of these muscles that have smokeless/reduced IR signature engines. That said, if the other guy is able to get his plane in within just a few miles of you and pop off a few IR missiles all without you noticing, you're probably dead already.
You did a very common mistake with fox1. There is no missile-to-aircraft communication. Wikipedia probably explains it better than me, but the theory is, that a SARH missile has a "passive" radar, meaning it only carries the reciver part of the radar. The transmitter, illuminating the target for the missile's reciver is the launcher aircraft's radar. Since radar waves bounce off the target omnidirectionally, not just to where they came from, the missile can also see it. Only thing the missile can't do, is measure the distance, since it doesn't know from where and when the radar pulse was sent.
+GrimReapers *Thanks for this article clarifying the issue* for those new to Eagle Dynamics Digital Combat Simulation and similar game softwares. With low observability coming to Russian and Chinese as well as American types, SARH missiles are confined to shorter ranges by the target's poor radar reflection, a situation ideal for both the USAF/Raytheon AIM-9Y with an L-band seeker and the VVS/Vympel R-60R with a K-band seeker - fox-one down to 1 km is practicable that way. (The Hughes AIM-9C is no longer competitive due to improvements in target manoeuverability.) IR missiles are still good for 1 to 4 km; closing to the heart of the envelope at the target's six shouldn't require radar. Within the limitations of target IFF at the edge of the envelope, the fox-three environment is best for long-range missiles such as the USAF/Raytheon AIM-120 and the new VVS/Vympel R-77M with K-band passive/active onboard radars (and, should the U. S. Navy and Marine Corps pursue it, the Raytheon YAIM-173 Standard VI, which would put AMRAAM guidance technology to work at ranges beyond those demonstrated by the AIM-54 bomber-intercept missile on an agile enough platform to hit 9+ G fighters at Mach 3.5).
until he does check out one I did. Im not talking but im dodging sams for 15min in a light sim called Over g fighters th-cam.com/video/OGqFpJDRTo0/w-d-xo.html
Wait what, Missile.... Evasion? - Mint Lynx have you ever watched any of our videos? hahaha ;) I'm sure we will do something on it soon - approx 2 weeks (thats an inside ED DCS gag btw )
So I'm pretty sure, and even more convinced after some checking, that your "Fox 3" image is NOT the AIM-120 AMRAAM, but is, in fact, the AIM-7 Sparrow. :) The AMRAAM is slightly skinnier for its length than the Sparrow, and the mid-mounted fins on the AMRAAM are smaller than or equal to the tail-fins, whereas on the Sparrow they're bigger than the tail-fins.
@@hollowpoint5732 I'm still not seeing it. I tried image-searching AIM-120B, and every image so-captioned looks just like a standard AIM-120, with the smaller forward fins as compared with the AIM-7.
Very informative video. I'm a relatively new subscriber, and your group makes me really want to pick this game up. In a very short time, I've become a big fan of you guys.
Fox one - rocket you have to keep lock with your radar for it to hit. fox two - rocket that locks on to the heat of the engine of the enemy Fox three - lock once, fire - then you don't have to maintain a lock anymore for it to hit.
As a former USAF "WCS Gorilla", the AIM-7 series during the Vietnam War were TOO WELL KNOWN to "not do as advertised". The AIM-9 series "did work as advertised", but does have a shorter range than the AIM-7series, which were INITIALLY designed as an interceptor-launched missile, i.e., the enemy is spotted over a 100 miles away, the interceptor aircraft flies up to altitude and direction, gets a lock-on quite a few miles out, launches the missile towards the aircraft while still flying in its direction, until the enemy is blown out of the sky. All straight line shooting, no dogfighting. The AIM-7 series compared the transmitted signal from the launch aircraft to the reflected signal from the target. Once both signals were near equal in comparison, BOOM!! This was not an "impact-driven" warhead.
the difference between the ET and ER is simply the sensor in the missile. The ER requires the "mother-ship" to illuminate the target, and the missile detects the reflections. the ET simply detects the IR energy from the target. other than the sensors the actual difference between the missiles is minimal.
Any other 80's kids having a nostalgia moment? Remember discussing AMRAAMS, Sidewinders + Fire & Forget with pals @ school - mainly for sims on the Amiga. Mavericks, chaff & ECM were other popular buzzwords...
FOX 1 - semi radar guided missile/enemy jet has to tail you to keep lock on FOX 2 - basic heat seeker missile/ fire and forget FOX 3 - radar guided missile/ fire and forget
yes it is, there is a reason fox 3's have their own radar Annelise Meier, and don't try to argue that im wrong :P because im not lol neither is elitew4rri0r :)
Two questions for everyone: 1) How much money would I need to get the controls and a few planes (MIG29, M2000, maybe 1 or 2 more)? 2) How much time approximately would I need to learn how to fly? Wanted to be a pilot since I was a kid, but because of some pressures and the current state (8 to 9 years ago) of our airforce, I backed out. So I have no knowledge, but would very much like to try and learn. Love you channel!
A basic Joystick (logitech extreme 3D pro) will set you back around $50 USD, depending on where you buy it. This is totally adequate for almost all gameplay, but you may find yourself wanting more accessories (particularly a head tracking setup for smoother, more accurate looking around) later. Modules for DCS are pretty expensive, around $80 for a full featured one, but the free Su-25T is actually a very capable ground attacker with a fully detailed flight model and simplified avionics (no clickable cockpit) so I'd start with that, then decide if you want to fork out the cash on another module. The upcoming F/A-18 and F-14 are likely to be the most capable full-featured modules where air-to-air is concerned. I'm a big fan of Cold-War era jets, so I tend to fly the MiG-21, F-5E or SAAB Viggen (and get killed by F-15s shooting AMRAAMs like they're going out of style). Learning to fly is easy with some trial and error... it's the takeoffs and landings (particularly landings) that are tricky, especially with a high performance jet like the M2000. I'd say around 10h to 'get' the flying aspect of the game (though you'll still be learning and becoming a better pilot after 2000 hours- the skill cap is very, very high), then another couple of hours to learn the basics of using a full-featured module (then another 12 hours of studying your module's manual if you want to learn everything about it). The Su-25T is also good for this, as its low-speed, straight wing design makes it forgiving on takeoff and landing for beginners (compare the MiG-21bis- I have a friend with hundreds of hours in sims who STILL can't land that deathtrap without crashing).
Thanks for the extensive answer! Will try this as soon as I finish my bloody uni... As for the MiG-21bis I have a neighbor that used to fly it and could also consult one of the best pilots Yugoslavia had back in the day :D So I guess no worries for that part, only thing I need to find now is time. TY AGAIN!
It is amazing to think about how much cheaper ATA combat was during WWII where instead of a $20 million dollar jet, they used $30,000 dollar prop planes. And instead of $3 million dollar-per use missiles, they had to buy bullets. Trying to fight a war like WWII today would be impossible not because of nukes, but because of the sheer cost of modern hardware.
Thanks for a great video - I have always belived it has something to do with the number of missiles fired, or from what station theyre fired from. But this make a whole lot of sense since you wants to tell youre friends what type of missile you have fired. Johan.
I always thought it was just the hardpoint. Fox is short for foxtrot which is the phonetic for F, so I always figured fox meant fire and the number was the hardpoint it was launching from.
solanisrs ...that makes good sense mate, that's actually good thinking on your part in regard to the individual stores hardpoints each having their own designated numbers, because you are correct, they do..and ground crews and pilots do need to know which ones are which..ie, which ones are 'wet plumbed' for fuel, (drop tanks, buddy refueling pods etc) and which are for weapons, and in the case of some aircraft like the typhoon, which are only for DASS pods or other targeting pods etc. But, as you now know, thats NOT what the 'Fox' firing call is about..as mentioned already here, these denote the type of warshot you are launching, not from which stores hardpoint. So you weren't really wrong, they are numbered, (some countries number them from wingtip-to-wingtip, others start with the centerline station being 1, so it varies), many aircraft also have multiple stations on their underbellies, like the typhoon again, 4× dedicated AAMRAM slots etc, while others like the F22 & F35 carry stores internally, and dont even get me started on beasts like the B2 stealth bomber & some of the strategic upgraded B52's which have multiple rotary internal launchers, (think giant revolver-like cylinders in their bomb-bays) and, yup..you guessed it..every slot has a number! Some of the older racks like they used for arc-light strikes in Vietnam where the B52's were carrying 186 MK-82's each, and were just 'ripple' dropped -en mass to carpet-bomb huge swaths of jungle..and every single bomb still had a no. Bet now your glad your not an ordie, or a bomber ground-crew chief huh!? So.. not quite right..but a damn good guess, non-the-less..you were 'closer' than most would've been without the internet to cheat with about finding out these fun little facts that some of us learned on the job. Long before internet, and them, even existed. Just so you know, that your honesty is appreciated, your not trying to sound off like alot of these many little 'internut wanna-be' know it alls, and that's very refreshing..made me want to answer you personally. So, there you go, Now you know.. Cheers mate!
you forgot to speak about the range, the sidewinder is for close range dogfight, the aim-120 is for medium to long range and the fox 1, i think sparrow back in the days used on f-14’s is for medium range about 45 nautical miles
So basically Fox 1 for Bvr but there are friendlies too like a R27ER and a Aim-7 Fox 2 close range fire and forget: Aim 9X Fox 3 Bvr fire and forget: Aim 120 and R-77
About the R-27 picture: It's a surface-launched variant of the R-27, with the rear part being a booster. The seeker is either likely active radar homing or possibly passive anti radiation. (There is also supposed to be an IR homing variant, but it's likely round tipped like the R-27T/ET variants.) The source mentions nothing about SARH variants. world-defense.com/threads/ukrainian-industry-offers-surface-launched-r-27.2842/
It means fire possition 1, 2, or 3. 1-8 or more depending on number pilons. Fox is the acronym for f. You're wrong on the missiles kinda. It all depends on the load out. You can have any kind of missile on any fox depending on the the load out for the mission and aircraft. Fox 1 is usually loaded with the lightest weapon because fox 1and 2 is normally on the wing tips and are usually sidewinders. Where as fox 5 up to 8 or more (depending on aircraft) are load with the heaviest payloads, like bombs, phoenix missile, harpoon, tomahawks and so forth, because it's the strongest part of the aircraft. I don't know where you got you info, but it's wrong. I'm an ex-navy avionics technician and used to work on EA6B prowlers and EA18G growlers and know what I'm talking about. And if your buddy got shot out the sky by his own missile, it's because the missile malfunctioned and went into failsafe mode. Your missiles are programmed with your radar signature for the mission and knows not to follow friendlies. Heat seekers on the other hand will chase you, but that is why they are only used as short range missiles. And your fox1 missile is called a tow missile. They are for air to ground attacks and usually guided in by a handheld laser by a ground troop or vehicle. Was your video satire? Because I got a good laugh.
In my old air training days fox-1 meant gun(s) or completely unguided missile(s), fox-2 does mean a infrared seeker but it also mean short range were fox-3 and up usually mean long range and probably semi-self guiding or fully autonomous and for those who don’t know fox-4 is usually anti-ship or cruise missiles type and fox-5 is usually anti-radiation or special active seeking missile the last is the any time you’ll ever hear this called out is if all out nuclear war has happened fox-0 literally mean nuclear explosive missile. As part of the USMC air tactical wing we had know these call signs also you’re wrong about not being able to control a ir-missile a special transponder is now in all friendly aircraft that tell the ir-missile that he’s not a target but some of the older missiles especially extremely long range missiles don’t have this, they figured that if fire so far away no friendlies would be there also anti-radar missiles don’t have this system but you understand why they don’t have it. P.S. all nuclear missiles don’t have it either and all are long range and none have any type of guidance except general direction from it’s mother ship!!!
Nuclear cruise missiles for ground targets can be aimed at a fixed spot on the ground by terrain following or by GPS. This is a form of guidance but is not tracking of a moving target. There is no theoretical reason why a nuclear cruise missile could not use a ship seeking radar like anti-ship cruise missiles, but this may not be implemented. Ballistic missiles are guided by inertial guidance from launch to hit a particular spot on the Earth lat/long. That is what is wrong about the notion that aircraft carriers are vulnerable to ICBMs. ICBMs are launched at a point on the surface, which they will strike accurately a half hour later. If the carrier gets launch warning, it can be 14 miles away from where it was at launch in an unpredictable direction when the missile goes off. ICBMs can't track targets. In their reentry phase, they can't maneuver at all.
Fox codes are generally used by NATO pilots. Fox one - AIM-7 Sparrow Countermeasure: chaffs & self protection jammer Fox two - AIM-9X sidewinder Countermeasure: Flares & chaffs( in new versions of missile) Fox three - AIM-120 AMRAAM Countermeasures: Run Bitch Run!!!😁😁😁😁.
right......the disadvantages are all about range and orientation limitations. Nobody is cancelling a missile if they are already so sure that they're in an engagement.
Fox 1 is an aim 9 effective with in 5 miles real world. Fox 2 is an aim 7 effective within 20 miles real world Fox 3 is an aim 120 effective range is 30-35 miles real world. I know these missles advertise greater range, but in reality in combat, real kill range is much shorter. Also all these missles have a trigger on them. On the radar controlled, when it looses it's lock it detonates.. the aim 9 has the same thing. When the seeker head looses it's heat source, there is a sensor on the side of the missle which triggers detonation. Well that's the way it is in the USAF. The Brits may call them biscuit 1,2 or 3.
Does this mean IIR (Imaging IR) are going to be Fox 4? The tech has been available for a few decades (since the late nineties) and there are several companies working on Air to Air missiles using it - air to ground IIR has been around for decades EG the AGM-65F/G. Then fox 5 for CCD missiles? It's all going to get a bit too complicated at some point.
Fox 2....friendly...sure that is a possibility. However, if I was a pilot and had one of these buggers on my tail. I would launch chaff and flare countermeasures. Saves my wingman the trouble of sacrificing him or her self. Hope that helps. Cheers 🍻
Nice video. However, the Fox 3 you have shown is an AIM-7 Sparrow not an AIM-120 AMRAAM. The Sparrow is basically the predecessor to the AMRAAM. I know it doesn’t matter.
LOL, I was going to point out the same thing. I've taken more than my fair share of AIM-7's apart and put them back together again(Former USAF AMMO troop).
Cap, just say it...Blood shot down a C-130 because of that IR issue. Cap, I am not sure if this is modeled in DCS but the AIM-9L\M has something called a Influence Fuse Sensor. If you look at the picture you have there there are small windows (little circles) there. The design is that if the weapon gets close of enough to it's target that if actually flies past it (likely due to target maneuvering) and that sensor detects the target, it will detonate the missile so as to hopefully catch it with some frags form it's warhead.
Some AIM-9 warheads use an Expanding rod(unfolds into a large metal ring) rather than metal fragmentation cubes. They'll actually delay detonating on impact so the folded rod can expand inside the target. Or if it does get inside the IFS range the rod will still rip into the target. Frag warheads can be just as dangerous to the launching aircraft if the pilot loiters to long while following. Because of the AIM-9's short range and large cloud of metal cubes it creates mainly.
At 3:11 you say 'this missile here and this missile here, fox 1 and fox 2 do give a warning that they are coming'. You should have said 'fox 1 and fox 3', [transmit radiation out].
Also it would be expensive, not for a single missile cause that’s cheap enough, but imagine doing that for every single missile you have to launch. Not only would it be expensive but it would also cause mass confusion in modern day radar tech making the system cluster with info you don’t want and yes spoofing.
Air to air missiles never usually have large warheads, only about 20lbs I think. They're designed to be very fast and very accurate so a large warhead isn't needed. Plus with a say a Sidewinder which has a range or less than five miles I believe, you might be right behind a hostile when you fire it so a again a large explosion would be a disadvantage. I know it's Hollywood but Independence Day always got under my skin for this, fifteen mile wide spacecraft and they fired Sidewinders at it, might as well use an air rifle!
The warhead on an AMRAAM is packed with metal cubes. Creates a nice fragmentation cloud. Which is why they have a proximity fuse. Only need to get close to the target rather than hit it directly. Verses early versions of the AIM-7 which had an expanding rod around the perimeter of the warhead. The missile would literally attempt to turn slightly when it reached the target to overshoot and then go off along side it.
The movie Independence day is the reason why
I'm here xD
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lmaooo, I was watching it yesterday, and now I read this - you've spoken my mind!
LOL! Their call outs were actually inaccurate, but what the heck! They tried!
@@grimreapers thank you!!
Caballero 1: Zorro 2 (in spanish dub)
Stupid explanation:
1: pilot must maintain lock, aka guided missile
2: heat seeker
3: homing
That's the tl;dr
Thank you
Which fox designation is given to laser guided missiles
@@HistoryShell1786 I think fox 3
Star fox! Lol
Fox-1: Must lock to the enemy
Fox-2 and Fox-3: Fire and Forget.
"Launch" and forget ;)
Never say "fire" on an air frequency, it's a signal word indicating actual fire on board or on others.
@@QemeH Ah yes, sorry. And again, sorry... Pan pan does exist, but it's mostly used in Commercial flights. So fire just indicate fire.
@@YuriYoshiosan As does "mayday mayday", but both are just signal words for priority or urgent messages. You are expected to give the emergency message after that. Example: "Mayday, mayday, maday, the A320 at gate 12 has fire under the left fuselage."
thx, saved me 7 mins
@@QemeH then how do you say you’re shooting a gun
Basically it just all means:
Fox one
Indicates launch of a semi-active radar-guided missile (such as the AIM-7 Sparrow).
Fox two
Indicates launch of an infrared-guided missile (such as the AIM-9 Sidewinder).
Fox three
Indicates launch of an active radar-guided missile (such as the AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-54 Phoenix).
Fox four
Historical term indicating air-to-air or air-to-surface cannon fire. The term in current usage is Guns, Guns, Guns.
7 mins of bullshit could have been explained basically in one sentence...
Goran Kilih
Pretty much yup.
i could'nt understand anything he said yet so clearly and short here..
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I know right, i'm like just get too the fucking point/facts.
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Mobius 1, fox 2
AWACS EagleEye
Eagle 5, Fox 3
Monarch, Fox two.
Strider 1, Fox 2!
@@RyanRamboer-sv3pm No. TAC Name of pilot, who shoot a missile
Also to add: To defend against IR missiles, you use flares. And Radar missiles, you use chaff.
or ejection...
@@nordicgunpowder 😂😂😂
Chaff doesnt always save you from radar missiles especilly if your on a collision course with the hostile
@@ThatPhonkEnjoyeryeah just hit that missile w paralel notching and some chaffs w 2 sec intervals and ur saved
Fox 3s arent fooled that easily
There's actually quite a big difference between a fox 1 and a fox 3. fox 1 is SARH and fox 3 is active radar. A SARH missile basically has a radar seeker in it's head but no emitter, it relies on the lauch aircraft to keep radar lock throughout the entire course. This means the lauch aircraft's radar stays in STT (single target track) mode and cannot search or track other targets. A fox 3 or Active radar missile has its own seeker AND emitter however the emitter has very short range. It doesn't require the launch aircraft to paint the target but only provide guidance updates via info link. This means aircraft with a radar that has TWS (track while scan) mode and search and track multiple targets at a time AND potentially guide multiple missile to multiple targets, something that SARH can never do.
3:15 (correction) cap meant to say Fox-1 and Fox-3
I've read somewhere quite some time ago, that at least for Radar guided SAMs it is common for the operators to fire the missile unguided in front of the target and switch on the targeting systems as late as possible so the target doesnt get a missile lock warning until the last second. Don't know if thats true though.
Note the brown band on the back of the Fox-2 Sidewinder and yellow up front. A brown band means live motor on the missile and yellow means high explosives. It's a full live round.
thx
Wow that's a cool detail I didn't know
I always hear fox-2 whenever I fire AIM-9 missile at the target in Ace Combat series.
Well, the missles you fire are hear seekers regardless so it's still an accurate radio chatter.
AIM-9? You mean the QAAM.
Important things to know if you are engaging with Fox-3 :
When the missile goes pitbull it will engage automatically the first thing it sees, not necessarily the enemy you are targeting. This is why when you are shooting those, you must ensure a CAF (clear avenue of fire = no friendlies in the path of the missile)
Also if you loose the lock at some point when the missile is still in passive mode it will continue in inertial navigation, extrapolating the position of the target you are shooting at and go active at the point it is supposed to find the target. Again this is important to know (= do not shoot if you dont have a CAF or you might end up shooting the friendly you are trying to save).
That's only true for the AIM-120A/B. The newer variants won't reacquire unless it can verify from a guiding AC(launching vehicle, another fighter, or AWACS) via data link(DTDMA, that link gets broken fairly early on so it can use active tracking sooner). If it can't verify target position after it loses tracking it raises its altitude and detonates. I remember all this from days of testing those guidance systems when I was still in the USAF. They just simply don't actively hunt for any target anymore.
indeed but as far as I know, that behavior is not modeled in DCS (or Falcon BMS). By the way, DCS should really correct their guiding routine for the AMRAAMs.
"Eagle 20! Fox 2!".
Redoralive Hahaha, Independence Day is an awesome movie. I just made a similar comment.
“The son of a bitch did it”
*''HELLO BOOOOOYYYS IIII'M BAAAAAACK!*
Don’t worry mr.president!
INDEPENDENCE DAY.
What does a fox say?
🐺
meow?
Matsimus i didnt know you liked Aircraft sims Matsimus xD
Missile away.
Oh god
Matsimus splash one
The most surprising thing about this video for me was finding out that Air to Air missiles' warheads are *not* in the front section.
Same with Underwater Torpedo's ;)
Fox-1:s (SARH Semi-Active Radar Homing Missiles) do have seeker heads, because they home on the reflected radar energy from the target, initially emitted by the launch platform. The difference between Fox-1:s and Fox-3:s (ARH Active Radar Homing Missiles) is that the Fox-3 has an active seeker head which homes on its own reflected energy once it goes pitbull. This means that, for a Fox-1, a RWR will only warn you about the launch platform's radar, and never of the missile itself. For Fox-3s it might vary. A launch in TWS might not initially trigger a launch or lock warning because the launch platform's radar still scans for additional targets. (Whether a TWS can trigger a RWR lock warning could possibly vary depending on how different types of radar operate in TWS mode) That's why you can launch several AMRAAM:s, which can also receive mid-course update via data link. Once a Fox-3 goes pitbull it will trigger the RWR. A RWS/STT lock can trigger a launch warning because a single target is being tracked. Also, remember to be familiar with the RWR coverage of different aircraft, as there are blind spots above and below the aircraft due to antenna placement. Fox-2:s will never by themselves alert a RWR.
More info: www.ausairpower.net/TE-Radar-AAMs.html
First sentence was exactly the information i was looking for. Thanks for that.
I always found missile guidance systems to be one of the most fascinating military technologies out there.
Impressive how far we have come from doves, trained to peck at the picture of a ship, inside a bomb.
LeothirNanirhandel Fox 1 is also used to describe missiles that operate by radio guidance (Like described in video).
As for Fox2 and RWR that's true but misleading. Current gen fighters can detect passive IR missiles with resounding accuracy as long as they have LoS. They just don't use a RWR to do so.
Drew P. What you're saying isn't entirely true. It is correct that many modern combat aircraft have Missile Warning Systems that use IR detectors instead of EM sensors to detect the approaching weapon, and that's can even warned against non radar guided missiles. However, their effectiveness is highly variable and debatable. Even the best ones might not be able to detect a missile from a purely front aspect (i.e. dead on the nose), or at least not until it's far too late for any effective evasive action. This is especially true for the newer versions of these muscles that have smokeless/reduced IR signature engines. That said, if the other guy is able to get his plane in within just a few miles of you and pop off a few IR missiles all without you noticing, you're probably dead already.
You did a very common mistake with fox1. There is no missile-to-aircraft communication. Wikipedia probably explains it better than me, but the theory is, that a SARH missile has a "passive" radar, meaning it only carries the reciver part of the radar. The transmitter, illuminating the target for the missile's reciver is the launcher aircraft's radar. Since radar waves bounce off the target omnidirectionally, not just to where they came from, the missile can also see it. Only thing the missile can't do, is measure the distance, since it doesn't know from where and when the radar pulse was sent.
I literally JUST had to google this yesterday cause i was sick of not knowing, well timed guys
Set the video speed to 0.75 and he sounds wasted
Cap is always wasted
Captain Jack Sparrow
Try .25
+GrimReapers *Thanks for this article clarifying the issue* for those new to Eagle Dynamics Digital Combat Simulation and similar game softwares. With low observability coming to Russian and Chinese as well as American types, SARH missiles are confined to shorter ranges by the target's poor radar reflection, a situation ideal for both the USAF/Raytheon AIM-9Y with an L-band seeker and the VVS/Vympel R-60R with a K-band seeker - fox-one down to 1 km is practicable that way. (The Hughes AIM-9C is no longer competitive due to improvements in target manoeuverability.) IR missiles are still good for 1 to 4 km; closing to the heart of the envelope at the target's six shouldn't require radar. Within the limitations of target IFF at the edge of the envelope, the fox-three environment is best for long-range missiles such as the USAF/Raytheon AIM-120 and the new VVS/Vympel R-77M with K-band passive/active onboard radars (and, should the U. S. Navy and Marine Corps pursue it, the Raytheon YAIM-173 Standard VI, which would put AMRAAM guidance technology to work at ranges beyond those demonstrated by the AIM-54 bomber-intercept missile on an agile enough platform to hit 9+ G fighters at Mach 3.5).
I like the Semi Active Missile in Ace Combat Assault Horizon and XLAA and XMAA but mainly the Semi Active because it's VERY good at sniping.
Do a video on missile evasion and countermeasures!
until he does check out one I did. Im not talking but im dodging sams for 15min in a light sim called Over g fighters th-cam.com/video/OGqFpJDRTo0/w-d-xo.html
Mint Lynx
He did, look through the library.
Wait what, Missile.... Evasion? - Mint Lynx have you ever watched any of our videos? hahaha ;)
I'm sure we will do something on it soon - approx 2 weeks (thats an inside ED DCS gag btw )
Roger
are you working for the russians?
The new Meteor missile has also dual way datalink connection. It can be commanded to engage other target midflight and the pilot never looses control.
So I'm pretty sure, and even more convinced after some checking, that your "Fox 3" image is NOT the AIM-120 AMRAAM, but is, in fact, the AIM-7 Sparrow. :) The AMRAAM is slightly skinnier for its length than the Sparrow, and the mid-mounted fins on the AMRAAM are smaller than or equal to the tail-fins, whereas on the Sparrow they're bigger than the tail-fins.
Probably. But it could be an Aim-120B
@@hollowpoint5732 I'm still not seeing it. I tried image-searching AIM-120B, and every image so-captioned looks just like a standard AIM-120, with the smaller forward fins as compared with the AIM-7.
Fox-Three, sending it home.
If you know, you know
Very informative video. I'm a relatively new subscriber, and your group makes me really want to pick this game up. In a very short time, I've become a big fan of you guys.
Welcome Sir
Are you a new military combat pilot that does not know the meaning of Fox codes? What branch of the Military Services are you with?
david sanders, no branch, I’m just a dude who really admires all things aviation.
It's OK, Travis. I'm just screwing with you. I appreciate your interest.
Fox one - rocket you have to keep lock with your radar for it to hit.
fox two - rocket that locks on to the heat of the engine of the enemy
Fox three - lock once, fire - then you don't have to maintain a lock anymore for it to hit.
As a former USAF "WCS Gorilla", the AIM-7 series during the Vietnam War were TOO WELL KNOWN to "not do as advertised".
The AIM-9 series "did work as advertised", but does have a shorter range than the AIM-7series, which were INITIALLY designed as an interceptor-launched missile, i.e., the enemy is spotted over a 100 miles away, the interceptor aircraft flies up to altitude and direction, gets a lock-on quite a few miles out, launches the missile towards the aircraft while still flying in its direction, until the enemy is blown out of the sky. All straight line shooting, no dogfighting. The AIM-7 series compared the transmitted signal from the launch aircraft to the reflected signal from the target. Once both signals were near equal in comparison, BOOM!! This was not an "impact-driven" warhead.
the difference between the ET and ER is simply the sensor in the missile.
The ER requires the "mother-ship" to illuminate the target, and the missile detects the reflections.
the ET simply detects the IR energy from the target.
other than the sensors the actual difference between the missiles is minimal.
Any other 80's kids having a nostalgia moment? Remember discussing AMRAAMS, Sidewinders + Fire & Forget with pals @ school - mainly for sims on the Amiga. Mavericks, chaff & ECM were other popular buzzwords...
affirm
80's? I wasn't just talking about that stuff, I was hands on with it. I'm former USAF AMMO troop.
In the days when the F-106 was in service Fox Three meant they'd launched the AIR-2A nuclear rocket.
Flares mess up the infrared of the fox2 missiles
I appreciate the Aliens reference at the end.
FOX 1 - semi radar guided missile/enemy jet has to tail you to keep lock on
FOX 2 - basic heat seeker missile/ fire and forget
FOX 3 - radar guided missile/ fire and forget
elitew4rri0r _ Fox 3 is not faf tho
yes it is, there is a reason fox 3's have their own radar Annelise Meier, and don't try to argue that im wrong :P because im not lol neither is elitew4rri0r :)
It has a radar but still needs correction from plane until target is within range of it
It's fire and forget when Pitbull/it's own radar kicks in.
2:27 oh yes it does. The flame do generate IR and can be captured by appropriate equipment.
Two questions for everyone:
1) How much money would I need to get the controls and a few planes (MIG29, M2000, maybe 1 or 2 more)?
2) How much time approximately would I need to learn how to fly?
Wanted to be a pilot since I was a kid, but because of some pressures and the current state (8 to 9 years ago) of our airforce, I backed out. So I have no knowledge, but would very much like to try and learn. Love you channel!
A basic Joystick (logitech extreme 3D pro) will set you back around $50 USD, depending on where you buy it. This is totally adequate for almost all gameplay, but you may find yourself wanting more accessories (particularly a head tracking setup for smoother, more accurate looking around) later. Modules for DCS are pretty expensive, around $80 for a full featured one, but the free Su-25T is actually a very capable ground attacker with a fully detailed flight model and simplified avionics (no clickable cockpit) so I'd start with that, then decide if you want to fork out the cash on another module. The upcoming F/A-18 and F-14 are likely to be the most capable full-featured modules where air-to-air is concerned. I'm a big fan of Cold-War era jets, so I tend to fly the MiG-21, F-5E or SAAB Viggen (and get killed by F-15s shooting AMRAAMs like they're going out of style).
Learning to fly is easy with some trial and error... it's the takeoffs and landings (particularly landings) that are tricky, especially with a high performance jet like the M2000. I'd say around 10h to 'get' the flying aspect of the game (though you'll still be learning and becoming a better pilot after 2000 hours- the skill cap is very, very high), then another couple of hours to learn the basics of using a full-featured module (then another 12 hours of studying your module's manual if you want to learn everything about it). The Su-25T is also good for this, as its low-speed, straight wing design makes it forgiving on takeoff and landing for beginners (compare the MiG-21bis- I have a friend with hundreds of hours in sims who STILL can't land that deathtrap without crashing).
Thanks for the extensive answer! Will try this as soon as I finish my bloody uni... As for the MiG-21bis I have a neighbor that used to fly it and could also consult one of the best pilots Yugoslavia had back in the day :D So I guess no worries for that part, only thing I need to find now is time. TY AGAIN!
no problem.
It is amazing to think about how much cheaper ATA combat was during WWII where instead of a $20 million dollar jet, they used $30,000 dollar prop planes. And instead of $3 million dollar-per use missiles, they had to buy bullets.
Trying to fight a war like WWII today would be impossible not because of nukes, but because of the sheer cost of modern hardware.
Supposably that's why we're the strongest, resources.
1 Fox, 2 Fox, 3 Fox, Fubuki.
4 Fox, 5 Fox, 6 Fox, Fubuki.
7 Fox, 8 Fox, 9 Fox, Fubuki.
10 FOX KAWAII YO!
JIYAAN!
Thanks for a great video - I have always belived it has something to do with the number of missiles fired, or from what station theyre fired from. But this make a whole lot of sense since you wants to tell youre friends what type of missile you have fired. Johan.
Very good tutorial Cap.... great speaking voice.
I always thought it was just the hardpoint. Fox is short for foxtrot which is the phonetic for F, so I always figured fox meant fire and the number was the hardpoint it was launching from.
solanisrs ...that makes good sense mate, that's actually good thinking on your part in regard to the individual stores hardpoints each having their own designated numbers, because you are correct, they do..and ground crews and pilots do need to know which ones are which..ie, which ones are 'wet plumbed' for fuel, (drop tanks, buddy refueling pods etc) and which are for weapons, and in the case of some aircraft like the typhoon, which are only for DASS pods or other targeting pods etc.
But, as you now know, thats NOT what the 'Fox' firing call is about..as mentioned already here, these denote the type of warshot you are launching, not from which stores hardpoint.
So you weren't really wrong, they are numbered, (some countries number them from wingtip-to-wingtip, others start with the centerline station being 1, so it varies), many aircraft also have multiple stations on their underbellies, like the typhoon again, 4× dedicated AAMRAM slots etc, while others like the F22 & F35 carry stores internally, and dont even get me started on beasts like the B2 stealth bomber & some of the strategic upgraded B52's which have multiple rotary internal launchers, (think giant revolver-like cylinders in their bomb-bays) and, yup..you guessed it..every slot has a number!
Some of the older racks like they used for arc-light strikes in Vietnam where the B52's were carrying 186 MK-82's each, and were just 'ripple' dropped -en mass to carpet-bomb huge swaths of jungle..and every single bomb still had a no.
Bet now your glad your not an ordie, or a bomber ground-crew chief huh!?
So.. not quite right..but a damn good guess, non-the-less..you were 'closer' than most would've been without the internet to cheat with about finding out these fun little facts that some of us learned on the job. Long before internet, and them, even existed.
Just so you know, that your honesty is appreciated, your not trying to sound off like alot of these many little 'internut wanna-be' know it alls, and that's very refreshing..made me want to answer you personally.
So, there you go, Now you know..
Cheers mate!
I'm so glad I subbed as I'm getting back in fs2004 and sir combat scene with Lock On Flaming cliffs 2 . So informative
Pleasure
Gripen has one of the most advance and best combination missiles & missile system in the world imo
FOX 1=SAAM?(Semi Active Air MIssile)
FOX 2=Stardart missile for normal laser guide missile?
FOX 3=4 AAM/ 8AAM?
you forgot to speak about the range, the sidewinder is for close range dogfight, the aim-120 is for medium to long range and the fox 1, i think sparrow back in the days used on f-14’s is for medium range about 45 nautical miles
lmao i just thought it is a way to count them. lol.
So basically
Fox 1 for Bvr but there are friendlies too like a R27ER and a Aim-7
Fox 2 close range fire and forget: Aim 9X
Fox 3 Bvr fire and forget: Aim 120 and R-77
yup
About the R-27 picture: It's a surface-launched variant of the R-27, with the rear part being a booster. The seeker is either likely active radar homing or possibly passive anti radiation. (There is also supposed to be an IR homing variant, but it's likely round tipped like the R-27T/ET variants.) The source mentions nothing about SARH variants.
world-defense.com/threads/ukrainian-industry-offers-surface-launched-r-27.2842/
Well found sir
I believe there is technically a Fox 4 for guns, although it's often just called out as guns guns (unless i'm talking out of my arse)
If a pilot fired a fox 2 and then turned off from the target, would the missile possibly lock on the to the pilot who fired it?
Because I just learned how to use the shkval sensor in the Su-25 and laser guided missiles
Very nice video. Would love one of countermeasures with chaffs, flares, ECM... And how and when to use it.
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It means fire possition 1, 2, or 3. 1-8 or more depending on number pilons. Fox is the acronym for f. You're wrong on the missiles kinda. It all depends on the load out. You can have any kind of missile on any fox depending on the the load out for the mission and aircraft. Fox 1 is usually loaded with the lightest weapon because fox 1and 2 is normally on the wing tips and are usually sidewinders. Where as fox 5 up to 8 or more (depending on aircraft) are load with the heaviest payloads, like bombs, phoenix missile, harpoon, tomahawks and so forth, because it's the strongest part of the aircraft. I don't know where you got you info, but it's wrong. I'm an ex-navy avionics technician and used to work on EA6B prowlers and EA18G growlers and know what I'm talking about. And if your buddy got shot out the sky by his own missile, it's because the missile malfunctioned and went into failsafe mode. Your missiles are programmed with your radar signature for the mission and knows not to follow friendlies. Heat seekers on the other hand will chase you, but that is why they are only used as short range missiles. And your fox1 missile is called a tow missile. They are for air to ground attacks and usually guided in by a handheld laser by a ground troop or vehicle. Was your video satire? Because I got a good laugh.
Useful video. Thank you.
Translate this one pls " Understod Ripple paveway. Shack in +5" suposedly its something in a groundstrike.
Multiple guided bombs deployed, impact in 5 seconds.
"It fired upon and killed or friend. That is a disadvantage."
In my old air training days fox-1 meant gun(s) or completely unguided missile(s), fox-2 does mean a infrared seeker but it also mean short range were fox-3 and up usually mean long range and probably semi-self guiding or fully autonomous and for those who don’t know fox-4 is usually anti-ship or cruise missiles type and fox-5 is usually anti-radiation or special active seeking missile the last is the any time you’ll ever hear this called out is if all out nuclear war has happened fox-0 literally mean nuclear explosive missile. As part of the USMC air tactical wing we had know these call signs also you’re wrong about not being able to control a ir-missile a special transponder is now in all friendly aircraft that tell the ir-missile that he’s not a target but some of the older missiles especially extremely long range missiles don’t have this, they figured that if fire so far away no friendlies would be there also anti-radar missiles don’t have this system but you understand why they don’t have it. P.S. all nuclear missiles don’t have it either and all are long range and none have any type of guidance except general direction from it’s mother ship!!!
Nuclear cruise missiles for ground targets can be aimed at a fixed spot on the ground by terrain following or by GPS. This is a form of guidance but is not tracking of a moving target. There is no theoretical reason why a nuclear cruise missile could not use a ship seeking radar like anti-ship cruise missiles, but this may not be implemented. Ballistic missiles are guided by inertial guidance from launch to hit a particular spot on the Earth lat/long. That is what is wrong about the notion that aircraft carriers are vulnerable to ICBMs. ICBMs are launched at a point on the surface, which they will strike accurately a half hour later. If the carrier gets launch warning, it can be 14 miles away from where it was at launch in an unpredictable direction when the missile goes off. ICBMs can't track targets. In their reentry phase, they can't maneuver at all.
Very informative. Highly appreciated, gents!
thx
TROGDOR!!
Fox codes are generally used by NATO pilots.
Fox one - AIM-7 Sparrow
Countermeasure: chaffs & self protection jammer
Fox two - AIM-9X sidewinder
Countermeasure: Flares & chaffs( in new versions of missile)
Fox three - AIM-120 AMRAAM
Countermeasures: Run Bitch Run!!!😁😁😁😁.
right......the disadvantages are all about range and orientation limitations.
Nobody is cancelling a missile if they are already so sure that they're in an engagement.
always thought it had something to do with which pylon your shooting from... thanks for that
Terminology clearly used in the movie ' Independence Day'. Eagle 1, Fox 2.
Thanks for the explanation.
what about the hell-fire ? in documentaries, it said that, it's a fire and forget type missile, but i recon it's not a heat-seeker type.
Hellfire is Rifle
thanks for clearing this up for this me.
Fox 4, starts as fox 1 and once it acquire a hostile radar signature it locks and fire 4 more foxes.
I thought it was for declaring what side your firing the missile aka fox 1 is right and fox 2 is left.
Are the BVR missiles Fox 3?
Fox 1 is an aim 9 effective with in 5 miles real world.
Fox 2 is an aim 7 effective within 20 miles real world
Fox 3 is an aim 120 effective range is 30-35 miles real world.
I know these missles advertise greater range, but in reality in combat, real kill range is much shorter. Also all these missles have a trigger on them. On the radar controlled, when it looses it's lock it detonates.. the aim 9 has the same thing. When the seeker head looses it's heat source, there is a sensor on the side of the missle which triggers detonation.
Well that's the way it is in the USAF.
The Brits may call them biscuit 1,2 or 3.
you are incorrect, you have confused a fox 1 with 2, fox 1 is an semi active radar guided missile (Aim7), and a fox 2 is an ir guided missile(Aim9)
i learned this from playing Falcon 4 Allied Force.
When firing a "dumb" rocket, an unguided one that just has explosives in it, or a penetrator, is the correct thing to say is "Rifle"?
'Rockets away' is probably as good as anything. 'Rifle' normally indicates the launch of an AGM-65 Maverick, but is probably okay for any A2G missile.
in case of rockets you will say "rockets"
"rifle" is for mavericks as you said
"magnum" is for anti-radar missile (which is also air to ground)
Does this mean IIR (Imaging IR) are going to be Fox 4? The tech has been available for a few decades (since the late nineties) and there are several companies working on Air to Air missiles using it - air to ground IIR has been around for decades EG the AGM-65F/G. Then fox 5 for CCD missiles? It's all going to get a bit too complicated at some point.
No
Well, at least you don't have to put up with... Fox-4! DAZZLE DAZZLE DAZZLE! Then shutting your blinders and turning away fast.
Why does the R27 have those weird front fins? Why are they wider on the tips?
Fox 2....friendly...sure that is a possibility. However, if I was a pilot and had one of these buggers on my tail. I would launch chaff and flare countermeasures. Saves my wingman the trouble of sacrificing him or her self. Hope that helps. Cheers 🍻
You don't need chaff for fox 2 tho
Where does IFF come in to play with all of this? Does it not affect missiles in the air?
that;s a big subject for another vid I think bill
Nice video. However, the Fox 3 you have shown is an AIM-7 Sparrow not an AIM-120 AMRAAM. The Sparrow is basically the predecessor to the AMRAAM. I know it doesn’t matter.
Roger, not sure how i managed that lol
LOL, I was going to point out the same thing. I've taken more than my fair share of AIM-7's apart and put them back together again(Former USAF AMMO troop).
Cap, just say it...Blood shot down a C-130 because of that IR issue.
Cap, I am not sure if this is modeled in DCS but the AIM-9L\M has something called a Influence Fuse Sensor. If you look at the picture you have there there are small windows (little circles) there. The design is that if the weapon gets close of enough to it's target that if actually flies past it (likely due to target maneuvering) and that sensor detects the target, it will detonate the missile so as to hopefully catch it with some frags form it's warhead.
Thanks for the info Nick
Some AIM-9 warheads use an Expanding rod(unfolds into a large metal ring) rather than metal fragmentation cubes. They'll actually delay detonating on impact so the folded rod can expand inside the target. Or if it does get inside the IFS range the rod will still rip into the target. Frag warheads can be just as dangerous to the launching aircraft if the pilot loiters to long while following. Because of the AIM-9's short range and large cloud of metal cubes it creates mainly.
Aren't Fox-1 missiles basically useless at modern-day fights since so many aircrafts nowerdays are attached with a RWR system and countermeasures?
So flares are used to disrupt a heatseeker/fox-2 missile, what's used to disrupt the others?
Chaff, I think. I could be wrong. Probably some electronic countermeasures too, in some instances.
Chaffs for electronic ones and flares for the infrared ones.
loving the aliens outro music
And what about air to ground missiles? Which term is used?
Will do a vid
At 3:11 you say 'this missile here and this missile here, fox 1 and fox 2 do give a warning that they are coming'. You should have said 'fox 1 and fox 3', [transmit radiation out].
Always wondered. Thanks!
Has that friendly fire scenario ever happened?
Friendly gets infront of hostile and catches friendly heat seeker?
th-cam.com/video/dFU7WcmW5vw/w-d-xo.html
Grim Reapers
Was the end music from Aliens? Sounded like that.
Thankx for the vid! I always wondered what that shit meant.
Thank you for that explanation
Fox 2 is jam I repeat Fox 2 is jam
I’M GOING IN....Over
do you have any association to the 493rd FS?
Only that I live very near the 493rd base at LN, UK, and watch them when I can.
I bet they use video recognition now, loading those missiles up with DSP chips.
Thanks for the explanations! Is there a call for unguided missiles?
Rifle for rockets
Thanks. :-D
Yers. you can buy them at Walmart.
as pointed out rifle is for rockets, but maddog is used for a fox 3 fired unguided from the mothership, it relies completely on it's own radar
Now i want to play ace combat
I wonder why missiles dont have any IFF then? Nice Alien music at the end ^^
Be too easy to spoof
Also it would be expensive, not for a single missile cause that’s cheap enough, but imagine doing that for every single missile you have to launch. Not only would it be expensive but it would also cause mass confusion in modern day radar tech making the system cluster with info you don’t want and yes spoofing.
Really helpful thanks!
great vid as usual
good stuff mate! thannks!
Funny how small the warhead on the AMRAAM is in comparison to all the electronics.
agree
Ah, but look at all that metal that turns into shrapnel when the warhead does detonate. That's where most of the real damage potential comes from.
Funny how a small warhead is all it takes when you have a good guidance package.
Air to air missiles never usually have large warheads, only about 20lbs I think. They're designed to be very fast and very accurate so a large warhead isn't needed. Plus with a say a Sidewinder which has a range or less than five miles I believe, you might be right behind a hostile when you fire it so a again a large explosion would be a disadvantage.
I know it's Hollywood but Independence Day always got under my skin for this, fifteen mile wide spacecraft and they fired Sidewinders at it, might as well use an air rifle!
The warhead on an AMRAAM is packed with metal cubes. Creates a nice fragmentation cloud. Which is why they have a proximity fuse. Only need to get close to the target rather than hit it directly. Verses early versions of the AIM-7 which had an expanding rod around the perimeter of the warhead. The missile would literally attempt to turn slightly when it reached the target to overshoot and then go off along side it.
You've got the best air to air combat channel.
Ques: FOX 1-2-3 .... Fox means what exactly bro?
Fox means "missile fired"
"Fox" is short for "foxtrot", the phonetic designation for the letter "F", which is short for "fire"
Iceman from top gun: Roger engaging, firing!
Fox 2 is 2:08