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When I was in my 20s I never took my jacket off because all my shirts were super baggy. I came from a small town with 1 store that sold dress shirts and I was a really tall, really thin man. Now I'm in my 30s and all my clothes are tailored and I've filled out so I can wear off the rack well too. I made every suit mistake as a young man: Black Suits, Oversized, bad shirt colors, vegan shoes, Loose ties with no dimple, over matching pocket squares, too many accessories and disorderly hair/facial hair, but you gotta start somewhere.
I do the same except with waistcoats. Some of my shirts are well fitted but I just hate how they slowly crawl out of my trousers so I usually only wear three piece suits😂
@@caesarortega5249 funny you mention "rompers"... I happen to own a couple vintage "shirt garters", they look an awful lot like those elastic bedsheet stays with the clips on them... And work the same damn way. And it turns out that Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin allegedly used to have their Formal shirts custom made with extra long tails that buttoned between their legs, I suppose fitting quite similarly to a Romper... The story goes that they did this so their shirts would never ride up on them while performing. Cheers!
Unfortunately, I'm short but stocky, so size Medium (UK size) has the perfect room to fit into, but the sleeve cuffs I have to roll back and button up; if I go to a size S, the sleeves come to my wrists; they are way too tight around my stomach and chest 😩
Just in time. Last time I bought some was 2 years ago I was skinny about 140lbs. I'm 180 and have to buy a dress shirt for a wedding... I needed this refresher!
For oddly sized individuals, buying a dress shirt can be nearly impossible. For decades, my shirts were always too large in the neck, too large in the shoulders, too short in the sleeves, and too baggy in the torso. At that time, I couldn't afford bespoke, so I just ended up looking sloppy (since a tailor can't fix all of those mistakes). With they explosion of online shopping options, I finally found one brand that fits me well. Now I buy all of my shirts (except t-shirts) from that brand.
@@RealMenRealStyle , "Buttoned Down," which is an Amazon brand. I wear their 14 1/2 neck, 34 sleeve, slim fit (dress shirts) or small slim fit (casual shirts). They fit me so well, I don't even have to pay the tailor tax.
Thanks for the tips!! U see im suck at things like fashion and stuff like i was behind them u know..... but this rlly helps me a lot! Cuz no one literaly talks to me in terms of stuff like this, they where like "just wear what u want" and then in the end i look stupid hehe, but thanks! Now i have an idea what to wear in events and stuff these days Fit is king!!
Great vid Antonio! After looking at your head another person’s peripheral vision will see your torso. That needs to be put together right. Wearing a jacket can camouflage sins in the shirt department but as soon as you take it off, its time in the shirting confessional. Pants, belts, shoes, watches, while no less important to your overall look, will be secondary as they are usually out of periphery. Rarely is someone looking down your body up close. That being said, a trained eye will notice these details when approaching you from distance.
The answer to that last question is shirt stays or shirt garters. We used them in the Marine Corps. Great video guys just started watching your videos. I have a lot of catching up.
Can you wear Dress shirts casually? I think they also go well with Chinos and Jeans. Favorite is my chambray shirt in grey. I'm also in my 30's so been upgrading my wardrobe. Keep up the good work Antonio!
Fit is key, but something most guys overlook is the type of collar that's on the shirt. For instance, those extreme cutaway spread collars have NO BUSINESS on men that have thick necks, or are shorter in stature... That style only accentuates those features. The same goes for longer point collars on extremely tall or thin guys... Try on a few different styles and see what suits YOUR build.,a Fit around the cuff is important, as you mention. As far as off the rack shirts that are too baggy in the body, they can be taken to just about any Seamstress and "darted" for a more flattering fit. That should only cost somewhere in the $15-$25 dollar range per shirt. Something else I've learned over the years... It's a MUCH BETTER investment to buy a more expensive shirt than to buy two or three cheap shirts... Heavier, 100% cotton will outlast any poly or poly blend shirt by at least 3 years AND be more comfortable, too. Cheers!
I take a fairly odd size shirt. It took me a long time to figure out exactly what I needed. My neck was too big and my arms were too short. I would have to upsize my shirt to get the neck to fit, but then the body, and arm fit we're terrible. I finally figured out that if I buy a Calvin Klein slim fit it is as close to a great fit as I can get. The arms fit well and the body fit is decent although a little bit of darting makes them look great.
I have an 18 inch neck. When I buy dress shirts to fit my neck, the shirt’s shoulders hang way off my shoulders. It’s almost comical. How would you advise I address this?
Custom shirt. Jos. A Banks shirts are the same price if custom ordered. They fit you properly and make your shirt. Not sure of quality, but might not be a bad choice to try a single white or blue Oxford
just one question Thomas... what if the shoulders are perfect, but the sleeves are too tight? I have that problem... the shirt fits perfectly on the body, but when I try to pull/roll up the sleeves(usually 2 folds), the sleeves becomes too tight and the roll doesn't look as flat as it would look on a normal person.
@@mph7282 I was talking about all type of shirts... which includes casual and formal... and is there any rule saying formal shirts cant be rolled?? Its a personal choice... dress shirt is about what type of shirt you are wearing... not how you are wearing... you shouldn't roll up during any formal events or occasion... but you could do it if you are hanging out before or after that event... formal shirt are designed for flexibility... not for restriction... even obama folds his dress shirt when he is giving a formal speech in public... now don't say, he don't know how to wear a dress shirt
@@arun_kumar0 You can wear whatever you like. But you answered your own question in saying a dress shirt is a specific type of shirt, which means it will fit a certain way. Wearing it in a way other than that for which it was designed, which agreed is completely your perogative, means it may not fit exactly the way you want. And no, formal shirts are not designed for flexibility, they are designed specifically for their formality. That said, you can have sleeves tailored, though when it comes to diameter that usually means making them smaller, not larger, as there is typically not much material available to increase the size. You can, of course, have shirts custom made as well, and these days that is not particularly more difficult or expensive than buying one off the rack.
At my separation seminar when I retired from the Navy, one of the briefs was how to dress for success and they covered most of the topics here in this video. Also, when I was in the Navy, we all found out about how to tuck-in your shirt and to use shirt-stays to keep them tucked in all day long, I still use shirt stays with civilian clothes because I hate the sloppy look of a partial/half-assed tucked-in shirt. The military side tuck works perfectly for civilian situations but I always used the USMC back tuck with the military creases in the shirts. OMG I hate those Untuck-It shirt commercials for men, to me they're simply blouses for men but I don't know any real men who would wear a blouse. Personally, an untucked shirt is just sloppy unless you're in your backyard grilling or something like that, but if you're out in public, take some pride and look like a man and not a little boy. Don't get me started with men in public wearing short pants unless they're at an Oktoberfest wearing lederhosen; backyard BBQs and such is fine but please act, dress, and look like an adult out in public. A lot of casual shirts have sleeves that droop past the shoulder and is probably why some men don't know how to buy the correct dress shirt because they simply look at their casual shirt as a reference. I've definitely seen a lot of people putting stress tests like the Hulk on buttons by wearing those too small. If the collar is too tight, you can buy a button with an elastic loop from most men's clothing stores so you can keep using those shirts until you lose the weight or buy new shirts, that way you don't have to fear Darth Vader Force-choking you all day long. The way my dad would test a shirt (coats & jackets also) if the sleeves were long enough by giving himself a bearhug and if was tight anywhere, he would size up until he was comfortable. At my Dress for Success brief they recommended same shirt length you did plus making sure the suit coat sleeve is short enough for at least 1/4-inch of shirt sleeve to be exposed. Since that brief I've noticed a lot of men on TV who have suit coats too long down to their knuckles or too short about half their shirt cuff exposed. They also recommended if you wear French cuffs or button-studs to make sure the stud is clearly visible so this will be about 1-inch of shirt cuff showing sometimes and therefore shorter suit coat sleeves. Great video Antonio & Thomas. 👍
There are many different ways a dress shirt can fit properly. I prefer very slim fitting shirts with a bit of room on the stomach for when you lean over or sit down. However there are some fabrics like silk or linen that look better with a drape when tucked in so those shirts can be much roomier. Polo shirts and t shirts should fit tight around the chest, arms/pits, and should taper down giving a triangular shape while opening up with enough room to not be baggy or throw off the triangular shape. In todays fashions every button is supposed to be buttoned even when worn casually. I personally hate this look. Especially on polos. A little bit of chest and chest hair should be showing. Not very much. But just enough. Honestly looks so much nicer than buttoning every button.
Let’s be honest. The way to look great in any shirt is to have the right body shape. No one who is short and overweight is going to look good. Tall, slender with broad shoulders, any shirt will look good.
Antonio, I don't think you understand youtube, so let you give you an advice. We want you, not some other person. We want to hear your voice, not some employee that you hired. I know you want to take a break from making videos once in awhile and we can wait. Even if it only 1 video a month, but we need you. You are RMRS, you can't just hand it off to someone else. Look at everyone who has a big amount of youtube followers, as soon as the originator is gone so is the channel. Take break if you need, but we need you on the screen. No exceptions.
All I hear is change the size. With all my different proportions in relation to the size I would never find the perfect shirt off-the-rack. How many people have the perfect body? Oh, ok, I have to spend 300 dollars on a tailored shirt? Don't think so.
We must be shopping in different places Michael! For the last few years I’ve found it very difficult to find anything other than “slim fit” shirts anywhere
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When I was in my 20s I never took my jacket off because all my shirts were super baggy. I came from a small town with 1 store that sold dress shirts and I was a really tall, really thin man. Now I'm in my 30s and all my clothes are tailored and I've filled out so I can wear off the rack well too. I made every suit mistake as a young man: Black Suits, Oversized, bad shirt colors, vegan shoes, Loose ties with no dimple, over matching pocket squares, too many accessories and disorderly hair/facial hair, but you gotta start somewhere.
I do the same except with waistcoats. Some of my shirts are well fitted but I just hate how they slowly crawl out of my trousers so I usually only wear three piece suits😂
@@nulle.k Lol, they just need to make dress shirt rompers and be done with it.
@@caesarortega5249 yeah
disturbing... sounds like we're separated twins.
@@caesarortega5249 funny you mention "rompers"... I happen to own a couple vintage "shirt garters", they look an awful lot like those elastic bedsheet stays with the clips on them... And work the same damn way.
And it turns out that Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin allegedly used to have their Formal shirts custom made with extra long tails that buttoned between their legs, I suppose fitting quite similarly to a Romper... The story goes that they did this so their shirts would never ride up on them while performing.
Cheers!
Great vid. Simple and I actually learned a bit of new information
Love these videos Thomas. I think white dress shirts are great, especially for formal outfits; but I also think blue ones are just nicer to look at.
Unfortunately, I'm short but stocky, so size Medium (UK size) has the perfect room to fit into, but the sleeve cuffs I have to roll back and button up; if I go to a size S, the sleeves come to my wrists; they are way too tight around my stomach and chest 😩
Just in time. Last time I bought some was 2 years ago I was skinny about 140lbs. I'm 180 and have to buy a dress shirt for a wedding... I needed this refresher!
For oddly sized individuals, buying a dress shirt can be nearly impossible. For decades, my shirts were always too large in the neck, too large in the shoulders, too short in the sleeves, and too baggy in the torso. At that time, I couldn't afford bespoke, so I just ended up looking sloppy (since a tailor can't fix all of those mistakes).
With they explosion of online shopping options, I finally found one brand that fits me well. Now I buy all of my shirts (except t-shirts) from that brand.
I couldn't agree more. Especially the difference in menswear sizes. What's your go-to brand?
@@RealMenRealStyle , "Buttoned Down," which is an Amazon brand. I wear their 14 1/2 neck, 34 sleeve, slim fit (dress shirts) or small slim fit (casual shirts). They fit me so well, I don't even have to pay the tailor tax.
Thanks for the tips!! U see im suck at things like fashion and stuff like i was behind them u know..... but this rlly helps me a lot! Cuz no one literaly talks to me in terms of stuff like this, they where like "just wear what u want" and then in the end i look stupid hehe, but thanks! Now i have an idea what to wear in events and stuff these days
Fit is king!!
Great vid Antonio!
After looking at your head another person’s peripheral vision will see your torso.
That needs to be put together right.
Wearing a jacket can camouflage sins in the shirt department but as soon as you take it off, its time in the shirting confessional.
Pants, belts, shoes, watches, while no less important to your overall look, will be secondary as they are usually out of periphery.
Rarely is someone looking down your body up close.
That being said, a trained eye will notice these details when approaching you from distance.
White and light azure are two of my all-time favourites
The answer to that last question is shirt stays or shirt garters. We used them in the Marine Corps. Great video guys just started watching your videos. I have a lot of catching up.
Can you wear Dress shirts casually? I think they also go well with Chinos and Jeans. Favorite is my chambray shirt in grey. I'm also in my 30's so been upgrading my wardrobe. Keep up the good work Antonio!
Team White
FINALLY I UNDERSTAND NOW, thanks this helps more, now the pants and jackets. White
Thank you
I always pick the 'slim fit' ones. They look custom taylored. 👍
Fit is key, but something most guys overlook is the type of collar that's on the shirt.
For instance, those extreme cutaway spread collars have NO BUSINESS on men that have thick necks, or are shorter in stature... That style only accentuates those features.
The same goes for longer point collars on extremely tall or thin guys...
Try on a few different styles and see what suits YOUR build.,a
Fit around the cuff is important, as you mention.
As far as off the rack shirts that are too baggy in the body, they can be taken to just about any Seamstress and "darted" for a more flattering fit. That should only cost somewhere in the $15-$25 dollar range per shirt.
Something else I've learned over the years... It's a MUCH BETTER investment to buy a more expensive shirt than to buy two or three cheap shirts... Heavier, 100% cotton will outlast any poly or poly blend shirt by at least 3 years AND be more comfortable, too.
Cheers!
Thanks 👏
Not only do I not have money for a tailor, I don't even have money for a shirt. 😄
Thanks.
I take a fairly odd size shirt. It took me a long time to figure out exactly what I needed. My neck was too big and my arms were too short. I would have to upsize my shirt to get the neck to fit, but then the body, and arm fit we're terrible. I finally figured out that if I buy a Calvin Klein slim fit it is as close to a great fit as I can get. The arms fit well and the body fit is decent although a little bit of darting makes them look great.
white but love to mix it up
my dream is to be a fashion designer so every video you post will help me
I have an 18 inch neck. When I buy dress shirts to fit my neck, the shirt’s shoulders hang way off my shoulders. It’s almost comical. How would you advise I address this?
Custom shirt. Jos. A Banks shirts are the same price if custom ordered. They fit you properly and make your shirt. Not sure of quality, but might not be a bad choice to try a single white or blue Oxford
From Somalia Thanks my bro
Blue and white both
Maybe considering to use big tummy man as model to explain will help us to understand better.
Please make a video on Pant.
Why do some guys have a tighter fitted shirt it looks good on them how do I get a shirt that fits perfect?
Team White!
I was watching an episode of FRIENDS and its crazy how baggy everyones clothes are. Crazy 90s
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Love white
Great!
Team Blue
So what do you do if your shirt fits perfectly in one area, but doesn't in another area?
I know all this, but in the Middle East the clothing stores are substandard
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just one question Thomas... what if the shoulders are perfect, but the sleeves are too tight? I have that problem... the shirt fits perfectly on the body, but when I try to pull/roll up the sleeves(usually 2 folds), the sleeves becomes too tight and the roll doesn't look as flat as it would look on a normal person.
sadly you cant do anything
Don't roll up the sleeves. It's a dress shirt, it's meant to cover your arms.
@@mph7282 I was talking about all type of shirts... which includes casual and formal... and is there any rule saying formal shirts cant be rolled?? Its a personal choice... dress shirt is about what type of shirt you are wearing... not how you are wearing... you shouldn't roll up during any formal events or occasion... but you could do it if you are hanging out before or after that event... formal shirt are designed for flexibility... not for restriction... even obama folds his dress shirt when he is giving a formal speech in public... now don't say, he don't know how to wear a dress shirt
@@arun_kumar0 You can wear whatever you like. But you answered your own question in saying a dress shirt is a specific type of shirt, which means it will fit a certain way. Wearing it in a way other than that for which it was designed, which agreed is completely your perogative, means it may not fit exactly the way you want. And no, formal shirts are not designed for flexibility, they are designed specifically for their formality.
That said, you can have sleeves tailored, though when it comes to diameter that usually means making them smaller, not larger, as there is typically not much material available to increase the size. You can, of course, have shirts custom made as well, and these days that is not particularly more difficult or expensive than buying one off the rack.
@@mph7282 when you are eating, roll up your sleeves. Also if you don't wear anything above the dress shirt, you can do that
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At my separation seminar when I retired from the Navy, one of the briefs was how to dress for success and they covered most of the topics here in this video.
Also, when I was in the Navy, we all found out about how to tuck-in your shirt and to use shirt-stays to keep them tucked in all day long, I still use shirt stays with civilian clothes because I hate the sloppy look of a partial/half-assed tucked-in shirt. The military side tuck works perfectly for civilian situations but I always used the USMC back tuck with the military creases in the shirts.
OMG I hate those Untuck-It shirt commercials for men, to me they're simply blouses for men but I don't know any real men who would wear a blouse. Personally, an untucked shirt is just sloppy unless you're in your backyard grilling or something like that, but if you're out in public, take some pride and look like a man and not a little boy. Don't get me started with men in public wearing short pants unless they're at an Oktoberfest wearing lederhosen; backyard BBQs and such is fine but please act, dress, and look like an adult out in public.
A lot of casual shirts have sleeves that droop past the shoulder and is probably why some men don't know how to buy the correct dress shirt because they simply look at their casual shirt as a reference.
I've definitely seen a lot of people putting stress tests like the Hulk on buttons by wearing those too small.
If the collar is too tight, you can buy a button with an elastic loop from most men's clothing stores so you can keep using those shirts until you lose the weight or buy new shirts, that way you don't have to fear Darth Vader Force-choking you all day long.
The way my dad would test a shirt (coats & jackets also) if the sleeves were long enough by giving himself a bearhug and if was tight anywhere, he would size up until he was comfortable.
At my Dress for Success brief they recommended same shirt length you did plus making sure the suit coat sleeve is short enough for at least 1/4-inch of shirt sleeve to be exposed. Since that brief I've noticed a lot of men on TV who have suit coats too long down to their knuckles or too short about half their shirt cuff exposed. They also recommended if you wear French cuffs or button-studs to make sure the stud is clearly visible so this will be about 1-inch of shirt cuff showing sometimes and therefore shorter suit coat sleeves.
Great video Antonio & Thomas. 👍
is navy soldiers don't tuck shirt into underwear ???
Team white, playing with the fabric patterns to differentiate.
I wear my shirt not tucked in from time to time for like parties or clubbing, which shirt length do you recommend for that?
(slightly over ) waist/belt length
@@thatGuyQuincy Thank you, good to keep that in mind :)
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Team white.
Shirt stays!
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There are many different ways a dress shirt can fit properly. I prefer very slim fitting shirts with a bit of room on the stomach for when you lean over or sit down. However there are some fabrics like silk or linen that look better with a drape when tucked in so those shirts can be much roomier. Polo shirts and t shirts should fit tight around the chest, arms/pits, and should taper down giving a triangular shape while opening up with enough room to not be baggy or throw off the triangular shape. In todays fashions every button is supposed to be buttoned even when worn casually. I personally hate this look. Especially on polos. A little bit of chest and chest hair should be showing. Not very much. But just enough. Honestly looks so much nicer than buttoning every button.
👍👍
I AM type guy like sky blue shirt and light grey
Definitely Team white, but I am in IT word and who cares your shirt 👔🤣
Teams white
White shirts all the way
Blue, team blue. White is to plain
Don't forget the right undershirt. V-necks are only for open collars.
Only tailored shirts are remained opt here...
White. M.
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Team blue 🔵🔵☺️
It seems having big bellies and waistline will make fitting more difficult and vice versa.
Need casual shirt fitting. 🥺
White 🤍
I get my shirts done by Vince Meal.
Team blue all the way, preferably with a pattern. But I’m fair skinned, so white just doesn’t look as good on me.
@Vincenzo Sinisi
Try an Ecru or off-white shirt...
It'll bring more "tan" into your complexion.
Cheers
Let’s be honest. The way to look great in any shirt is to have the right body shape. No one who is short and overweight is going to look good. Tall, slender with broad shoulders, any shirt will look good.
So get a shirt that fits??🤔🙄🤣😂🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Ok great thanks for that would never of known that!!! Good lord that's 4 mins of my life I can't get back!!
Bottom line get a custom shirt , otherwise the tailor will charge for every alterations!
Antonio,
I don't think you understand youtube, so let you give you an advice.
We want you, not some other person. We want to hear your voice, not some employee that you hired. I know you want to take a break from making videos once in awhile and we can wait. Even if it only 1 video a month, but we need you. You are RMRS, you can't just hand it off to someone else. Look at everyone who has a big amount of youtube followers, as soon as the originator is gone so is the channel. Take break if you need, but we need you on the screen. No exceptions.
That's the way shirts fit in cheap menswear catalogues. Lol
heads up, the dress shirt that you green check mark does not fit you in the torso nor arm width. redo video with better fitting shirt.
Basically, 2 inches of fabric is the answer. No more no less.
All I hear is change the size. With all my different proportions in relation to the size I would never find the perfect shirt off-the-rack. How many people have the perfect body? Oh, ok, I have to spend 300 dollars on a tailored shirt? Don't think so.
I hate seeing guys wearing a dress shirt untucked with a necktie
I am a woman but these are great tips
ok this is for a slim people ... but for the little fat guys or.normal people ????
Step 1: Get a good body..
Stop telling us to not do!
It’s sad that shirts on the rack are made to accommodate overweight people……instead of the other way around 🤷🏼♂️
We must be shopping in different places Michael! For the last few years I’ve found it very difficult to find anything other than “slim fit” shirts anywhere
Thank you
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Team Blue