The Wreck of IJN Haruna - The Last of the Kongos

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  • @map3384
    @map3384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    The Kongos inherited their beautiful British battle cruiser design based on the Lion and Repulse classes. Magnificent looking ships.

    • @olsurferguy1
      @olsurferguy1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They certainly were.

    • @brookeshenfield7156
      @brookeshenfield7156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There were indeed. Great ships with honorable combat histories.

    • @BigAmp
      @BigAmp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lion yes but not Repulse. Repulse and Renown were early war designs whereas Haruna was well on the way by then having been launched in late 1913. The RN was so impressed by the Kongo class, which were considered markedly superior to the Lions, that they built an improved Lion - just the one ship, the beautiful Tiger.

    • @doccyclopz
      @doccyclopz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BigAmp You said "Repulse and Renown were early war designs" when they were in fact laid down two years after the Kongos.

    • @battlewagon41
      @battlewagon41 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The kongo class ships were based on the Hms Tiger battle cruiser design .

  • @kevinyoung9557
    @kevinyoung9557 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    IJN had some of the most interesting and beautiful looking ships.

    • @西方秀則
      @西方秀則 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      山本五十六氏は、これからは航空母艦と航空機の時代だ!
      と名言を残されました、

  • @newkubaq3027
    @newkubaq3027 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    It's sad that nothing big was recovered from the wreck but it's not surprising at the same time. My fav ship of all time

    • @Hardcase_Kara
      @Hardcase_Kara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah would have honestly loved if the Pagota Mast was preserved cause that might have beena nice attraction for people to experience.

    • @McBruch
      @McBruch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There has been a lot actually but it seems to be on Etajima/Kure in the Naval Academy but as far as I know its not open to public but only to military personell. Like for example her Bell and her helm. I think a 15.2cm Casemategun is right outside there next to a Kaiten

    • @newkubaq3027
      @newkubaq3027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@McBruch Welp that's something nice to hear. If it's true then I hope we'll get to see it someday

  • @lumberlikwidator8863
    @lumberlikwidator8863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fascinating! I’ve had a love affair with ships, particularly big gun battleships and cruisers, since the early 1960s. My favorite era is the period 1905 to 1945, when navies possessed a lot of heavily armed and protected ships. Back in my childhood there were very few photos of ships available for public viewing, and it was frustrating to see the same old handful of stock images of big fighting ships. I’m so grateful for channels like yours who have made the effort to locate dozens and hundreds of photos of these legendary vessels. This was a detailed depiction of the sad ending of the once proud Imperial Japanese Navy, pounded by relentless air attacks while they sat in harbour, short of manpower and fuel, awaiting their fate. It’s sad that the Emperor and his war cabinet refused to acknowledge that the war was lost, and continued to send men to their deaths in ships, aircraft and in the pointless defense of places like Okinawa. Saddest of all was the Kamikaze attacks on Allied shipping, which guaranteed certain death for untrained young pilots in return for very little tactical or strategic gains. Many lives were lost during late 1944 until the end of the war because of foolish pride and what was probably viewed as indomitable fighting spirit.
    Thanks again for doing the research and taking the time to tell of the sad ending of this fine fighting ship. I’m sure many people agree with me and appreciate and enjoy your videos. Great job on telling the story of the sinking of the last of the Kongos. Your videos are unpretentious and right to the point, and I look forward to each new episode. Great job! I can tell that this is a labor of love, so I wish you all the happiness and success in the future.

    • @chadrowe8452
      @chadrowe8452 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You say foolish pride, is there a different kind of pride?

    • @lumberlikwidator8863
      @lumberlikwidator8863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chadrowe8452 I guess not, now that you mention it.

  • @MomoKawashima5
    @MomoKawashima5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Haruna is one of my favorite ships and by far the prettiest sounding name for a ship

  • @larryjohnson7591
    @larryjohnson7591 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Just for you Information: Typhoon Janie: July 23, 1946: 115 MPH Wind speed. Typhoon Kathleen: Sept. 15, 1947. 105 MPH Wind speed. Typhoon Lone: Sept 11, 1948. 140 MPH Wind speed. One or all 3 of these might have had some effect on the Haruna during that time to put the boat there and other debris on the bow of the ship.

  • @Backwardlooking
    @Backwardlooking 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great research and very interesting images. The last aerial photo splendidly illustrates the original British design. Thank you. 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @RalphKramden-il5pf
    @RalphKramden-il5pf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ln addition to providing informed and interesting content, thanks for using your own voice.

  • @GuidoKappes
    @GuidoKappes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The Kongos espacialy with their latest impressive pagodas where amongst the most beautiful warships ever built.
    All tough Harunas fate would find an end like in the description.
    It's a shame that no ship from this era, can be visited in our days😢
    Kirishima was my favorit one.

    • @takashitamagawa5881
      @takashitamagawa5881 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Of all the capital gunships in the Japanese Navy, the KONGOs were the most useful and saw the most significant service.

    • @alanstevens1296
      @alanstevens1296 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is a problem when nearly every IJN warship had to be sent to Davy Jones' Locker.

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is one remaining battleship with the British design flared bow which would be USS Texas, have a look at a top down view, looks very similar no?

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@takashitamagawa5881
      They were the most ACTIVE, but they were usually just present without actually accomplishing anything significant. The only real success they had was the bombardment of Henderson Field and that was it.
      None of the Japanese big-gun capital ships actually accomplished anything significant in WWII, Kongos not exempt. For that matter, very few of the 29 newly built battleships of WWII (and I know the Kongos aren’t part of that) accomplished anything.

  • @markcole6357
    @markcole6357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My father was on LSM 55. She and the other LSM’s in her group were in the Philippines when the war ended and almost immediately loaded and sent to Japan and were among the first sailors to arrive. While he was there, he and some of his buddies took a boat to Haruna. He brought home one of the main battery targeting telescopes used for local control if master fire control was not operational. Great War relic! Unfortunately it was destroyed in a fire in the mid ‘60’s.

    • @JeraldFahrsite
      @JeraldFahrsite 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if secret agents didn't set the fire for the specific purpose of destroying that relic.
      How sophisticated was it?

  • @paullaw1438
    @paullaw1438 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent. Thank you 🙏

  • @russfranck3491
    @russfranck3491 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You really do a good job, I enjoy your videos immensely 🙈

  • @Todd.P
    @Todd.P 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always!

  • @goblinoidfilms7119
    @goblinoidfilms7119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome vid, really enjoying your channel!

  • @Frank_Stendel
    @Frank_Stendel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What You see on the photo at 14:14 are not three empty barbettes. In the first and thrid barbette are still the lowers parts of the turrets. And even in the second barbette, You can see inside of it remnants of the the inner parts of the turret.

    • @divinerowecom
      @divinerowecom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In the picture at 14:00 the second turret was not scrapped yet. That must part of the bridge in the center of the image, otherwise the breech of the guns would have been visible.

    • @divinerowecom
      @divinerowecom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The turret at 13:07 is most probably the fourth one, the barrels of the third one barely visibles at the right of the rear of it. These turrets were far from each other because of machinery between them. The Kongo class battlecruiser design giving the third turret a much better arc of fire than the contemporary Lion class that it was adopted for the last of them, the Tiger.

    • @aidanacebo9529
      @aidanacebo9529 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@divinerowecom I think that's the armored tub for the AA battery mounted atop turret 2. you can still see camo stripes on the side of it, and we know from other pictures that the barbette didn't have camo on it from turret 2.

    • @richardwhite1187
      @richardwhite1187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aidanacebo9529 correct, it's the empty AA position on turret 2.

  • @DK-gy7ll
    @DK-gy7ll 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your comment about Haruna surviving the war was spot-on. None of the Japanese capital ships were going to survive past the end of the war regardless of their condition. Even if Yamato had survived unscathed she'd have been studied by the Americans, then either scrapped or used as a gunnery target, or else sacrificed in Operation Crossroads. No way would she have survived as a museum ship.

    • @EliteF22
      @EliteF22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, the Japanese needed steel to rebuild. They were in no position economically to convert a warship to museum status.

    • @REDPUMPERNICKEL
      @REDPUMPERNICKEL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EliteF22 Out of one Haruna,
      Honda could have made the steel parts for 370,000 motorbikes
      if each bike used 200 pounds of steel.

  • @markymark3572
    @markymark3572 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another excellent video😎

  • @guyvessieres8902
    @guyvessieres8902 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting and nice research. Thanks you for this detailed vidéo

  • @doodledangernoodle2517
    @doodledangernoodle2517 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    13:25 seeing this picture with her being covered in greenery makes me kinda wish they had just towed her somewhere unobstructed and just let her become overgrown like an artificial island. Serving a new purpose.

  • @littorina772
    @littorina772 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    La differente altezza dello scafo sull'acqua potrebbe dipendere dalla diversa altezza della marea al momento dello scatto.
    Probabile che dopo l'alleggerimento, lo scafo sia stato sollevato e portato a spiaggare per una più agevole demolizione.
    The different height of the hull above the water could depend on the different height of the tide at the time of the shot.
    It is likely that after the lightening, the hull was raised and brought to the beach for easier demolition.

  • @nicholasgregory3973
    @nicholasgregory3973 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The shot from the bridge tower did not look into the super firing forward turret. The guns were still in place and if all of the internal workings had been removed then the guns would have fallen down on the foremost turret. What is seen is the lowest level of the open bridge with all the equipment removed not the inside of the turret.

  • @DaveSoCal
    @DaveSoCal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The picture at 3:00 labeled “CV-38” is dads ship

  • @JGCR59
    @JGCR59 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seriously the japanese scrapping so many of their own warships in 2 or 3 years with all the devastation in their country is a feat in itself. As ship lovers following this page not a proud one, but given the economics of postwar japan probably a necessary one

  • @hauk65000
    @hauk65000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Skynea might have a theory about the background of the strange "Pagodas" tower buildings the Japanese had on their capital ships..?
    Which is little mentioned in history. Except that they supposedly had observation systems for the artillery.
    In that case strange as the increased weight and negative impact on speed could hardly outweigh the benefits ..(?)

    • @7thsealord888
      @7thsealord888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As always, it was all about trade-offs. As I understand it, IJN doctrine called for getting in the decisive hits ASAP.
      As part of that goal, the pre-war IJN put a LOT of emphasis on gunnery training in all conditions. As part of this, they had a branch of their enlisted that actually specialized in artillery spotting. These individuals were extensively trained in lookout duties, and in observing and reporting the fall of shot. Yes, they also had gunnery director systems, but the spotters were both a back-up pf and enhancement for those systems. Typically, they all had their own binoculars and assigned posts, and capital ships tended to have them in significant numbers - mostly used in the out-sized "pagodas" that most of their BBs and BCs had.
      As an aside ... For their NON-capital ships, the IJN worked up tactics centred around their Long Lance Torpedoes. Again tradeoffs - the weapon and tactics were devastating early on. However, , there were also repeated instances of Japanese warships being sunk because of moderate damage that just happened to set off their OXYGEN_FUELLED torpedoes.

    • @Joe-u9l
      @Joe-u9l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The pagoda towers actually were not that heavy. Close examination shows how they were built up around the tripod masts, sexpod in Nagano. They were no higher than the American standards, which had 2 rather than 1 structure. They had armored citadel battle bridges like most ships battleships while each deck offered a specific control, i.e. main and secondary batteries, aa etc.
      Not effective in the day of radar but in the 1930's they helped to see over the horizon just as was the case for U.S. and British designs.

  • @salisburydiff1
    @salisburydiff1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last shot shows a thick bulkhead in each turret separating each of the guns so that if one is hit or incapacitated, the other can still operate?

  • @alephalon7849
    @alephalon7849 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just when I think I've seen everything about Haruna's wreck, I learn more new things, such as the account claiming she lasted until 1950 and that boat that keeps on showing up. Always a good thing to come across surprises in well-documented cases.

  • @joelwright4317
    @joelwright4317 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting. I’ve never seen most of these photos.

  • @104thDIVTimberwolf
    @104thDIVTimberwolf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a shame that none of the Axis capital ships survive as Museum Ships. KMS (later USS) Prinz Eugen had the best chance, but she was sunk during Operation Crossroads.

    • @MarkLawden
      @MarkLawden 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Prinz Eugen still survives - just upside down, though some of the hull is clear of the water.

  • @morstyrannis1951
    @morstyrannis1951 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are X and Y turrets so far apart? Anyone know?

  • @johnfranciscastilloatienza2555
    @johnfranciscastilloatienza2555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rest in peace the Japanese fast battleship Haruna, the last of the Kongos

  • @gamerxt333
    @gamerxt333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The smaller boat is probably for halting the list.......or rather trying to halt it.

  • @Backwardlooking
    @Backwardlooking 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

  • @horatioh5469
    @horatioh5469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting, thank you.. fyi the name is pronounced Ha RU na with the stress on the second syllable.

  • @strfltcmnd.9925
    @strfltcmnd.9925 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28 July was also the sinking of the USS Indianapolis

  • @jonathanlong6987
    @jonathanlong6987 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m guessing the boat on the seaward side of Haruna is due to a typhoon.

  • @MERCENARYREVY
    @MERCENARYREVY 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you ever thought about doing a story on the u s s cyclops?

    • @aaroncasey3591
      @aaroncasey3591 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another TH-camr just dropped a story on it.

  • @ilfarmboy
    @ilfarmboy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    check into a copy of the book"campaigns of the pacific war" the official record of sea battles in the pacific war it shows the damage done during the Kure raids

  • @Wayne.J
    @Wayne.J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have found a newspaper article saying it was scrapped in 1951! And provided a terrible photo but a photo nonetheless
    Newspaper article below...
    Townsville Daily Bulletin pages 1, 1 May 1951
    RIDE OF JAPAN-BEING CUT UP FOR SCRAP
    The pride of the Imperial Jupanrar Navy. 30.000 ton battleship 'Haruna' has recently been refloated at Etajima- near the headquarters of the British Occupation Forces In Japan-
    and is now being dismantled to provide scrap metal for Japanese Industries. The 'Haruna'' was sunk towards the end ef the last war.

    • @Wayne.J
      @Wayne.J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      17 March 1951, Newcastle Sun
      Jap Firm's Salvage Of Battleships .
      TOKIO: In the greatest salvage operation in history, two
      giant sunken battleships, once
      the pride of the Imperial Jap
      anese Navy, are being raised
      from deep water in the Inland
      Sea.
      The 45,000-ton Ise, sunk off
      Hiroshima, has been lifted to
      the surface after heavy work
      in rough seas since June.
      The bows of the 42,000-ton
      Haruna, scuttled near Etajima;
      once the Imperial Japanese
      naval academy, are also now
      above the surface, but it is not
      expected that the hulk will be
      refloated for another couple of
      weeks. . .
      Occupation engineers describe
      the salvage operation as unsur-
      passed for skill, economy and
      swiftness anywhere in the
      world.
      Attempts to salvage .the
      sunken 46,000-ton Hyuga, time-
      tabled for refloating within the
      year, will be begun in March.

    • @Wayne.J
      @Wayne.J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Newcastle Morning Herald, page 1, 26 January 1950
      SALVAGE OF JAPS'
      DISABLED WARSHIPS
      TOKIO, Wednesday. - The
      Japanese Government has an-
      nounced that bids will soon be|
      called for salvage of the remain-
      der of the Japanese Fleet, sunk or
      disabled by American air raids on
      Kure Harbor in 1945. ,
      The five remaining ships lying,
      partially submerged, include the
      38,000-ton battleships Ise. and
      Hyuga, and the 37,000-ton Haruna,
      all of which were sunk in the two
      day raid in July.
      One shipbuilding firm was un-
      able to continue profitably after
      raising and dismantling two air-
      craft-carriers, three cruisers and
      100 submarines and gunboats.

    • @Wayne.J
      @Wayne.J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Newcastle Morning Herald, page 1, 26 January 1950
      SALVAGE OF JAPS'
      DISABLED WARSHIPS
      TOKIO, Wednesday. - The
      Japanese Government has an-
      nounced that bids will soon be|
      called for salvage of the remain-
      der of the Japanese Fleet, sunk or
      disabled by American air raids on
      Kure Harbor in 1945. ,
      The five remaining ships lying,
      partially submerged, include the
      38,000-ton battleships Ise. and
      Hyuga, and the 37,000-ton Haruna,
      all of which were sunk in the two
      day raid in July.
      One shipbuilding firm was un-
      able to continue profitably after
      raising and dismantling two air-
      craft-carriers, three cruisers and
      100 submarines and gunboats

    • @Wayne.J
      @Wayne.J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Newcastle Sun, page 5, 17 March 1951
      Jap Firm's
      Salvage Of
      Battleships .
      TOKIO: In the greatest sal
      vage operation in history, two
      giant sunken battleships, once
      the pride of the Imperial Jap
      anese Navy, are being raised
      from deep water in the Inland
      Sea.
      The 45,000-ton Ise, sunk off
      Hiroshima, has been lifted to
      the surface after heavy work
      in rough seas since June.
      The bows of the 42,000-ton
      Haruna, scuttled near Etajima;
      once the Imperial Japanese
      naval academy, are also now
      above the surface, but it is not
      expected that the hulk will be
      refloated for another couple of
      weeks. . .
      Occupation engineers describe
      the salvage operation as unsur-
      passed for skill, economy and
      swiftness anywhere in the
      world.
      Attempts to salvage .the
      sunken 46,000-ton Hyuga, time-
      tabled for refloating within the
      year, will be begun in March.

    • @Wayne.J
      @Wayne.J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Townsville Bulletin, page 4, 12 October 1948
      JAP WARSHIPS
      NOW SCRAP
      HIROSHIMA, Japan, October
      11.- Thirty-five Japanese warships,
      including two battleships, three
      aircraft carriers and six cruisers,
      have been scrapped here and the
      metal diverted to industry.
      Authorities announced that the
      Harima Dockyard Company had
      completed the scrapping of the
      battleships Ise-Hvuga and the
      Haruna, and the carriers Amagi,
      Ryuoho and Aso. Other vessels
      scrapped included 120 two-man submarines.
      One hundred and two vessels are
      engaged In pearling this season- 65
      at Thursday Island. 20 at Broome,
      30 at Darwin, and 7 at Onslow. It
      it expected that a few more will be
      commissioned before the season
      closes. Last year, 91 boats operated
      for part or the whole of the season
      Of the 65 Thursday Island vessels,
      46 are using the helmet and
      corselet-only method and the rest
      are using skin divers.

  • @Jarlerus
    @Jarlerus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Odd. My comment with Geolocations (Google Maps) of the ship disappeared... Well - here they are again:
    First location, as seen about 1:57
    34.19988394308966, 132.52943582556009
    After being beached/settled:
    34.251202431123225, 132.49602435279735

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TH-cam sometimes removes comments with links, it happens on my channel as well.

    • @Jarlerus
      @Jarlerus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ImportantNavalHistory OK. Didn't. Have any links, more than the timestamps :/

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jarlerus Ah, weird.

  • @alexvisser5913
    @alexvisser5913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer Kirishima simply because of more beautiful sounding name :D

  • @ironkeko4423
    @ironkeko4423 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    She was not Daijoubu

  • @sapumalmaduhara
    @sapumalmaduhara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come i missed this name ☹️

  • @DaveSoCal
    @DaveSoCal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe dads carrier planes sank/damaged Haruna(and damaged) Air Group 85, USS Shangri La

  • @turambar620
    @turambar620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    danish survey ship MS Vina and the discoverys about jütland and orkney...

  • @peterschulze8686
    @peterschulze8686 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Schade, es war ein sehr schönes Schiff. Gruß aus Deutschland.😀

  • @joshuacourville2903
    @joshuacourville2903 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The boat was caused by a tsunami in 47 or 48 I think

    • @Jarlerus
      @Jarlerus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seems there was a big earthquake and tsunami in the area at the end of 1946, with aftershocks into 1947.

  • @davey7452
    @davey7452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By the beginning of 1945 the IJN was stuck in ports because of a shortage of fuel oil they couldn’t move and became sitting ducks to US naval air attacks.😊

  • @laurentitolledo1838
    @laurentitolledo1838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bring back the Kongo sisters!

    • @doodledangernoodle2517
      @doodledangernoodle2517 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, Japan currently has the Kongo-class guided missile destroyers. Named Kongo, Kirishima, Chokai, and Myoko

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Necromancer: Hello there! :D

  • @西方秀則
    @西方秀則 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ハワイ真珠湾は戦艦で攻撃するのでは無く航空母艦から戦闘機で飛び出し攻撃したほうがいいと山本五十六氏は作戦を考えられて実行しました、

  • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
    @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My Waifu.

  • @chrisjeffries2322
    @chrisjeffries2322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent! Thank you.