This race will be fairly Vanilla if it's dry. Could be tricky in the wet though? Pray for rain and let the Brits do their thing! "Stay on your bike Danny"!
unpopular opinion but I'm really looking forward to watching the racing on this track! I'm not sure why people are saying it looks flat...some parts look steeper than most other tracks! I'm a huge fan of simply cutting a rough path off piste and letting things figure themselves out. It's the opposite to tracks like Fort William which I could fall asleep watching. Get hundreds of riders down this one and I guarantee the track will evolve and keep everyone on their toes.
3min 55s is the dry chilling benchmark then. Positives: 1. I love Loic’s riding 2. It’s fast 3. The spectacle will improve if it’s wet Negatives: 1. This is at Regional DH standard, not UCI WC 2. Consequently it will run very, very fast 3. And as a result, there will be a continuation of this year’s high injury rate. Anyway, because I’m a hypocrite, I’ll be watching every second.
@@benoitcazauxx Fair enough, but even I could get down that with a couple of breathers on the way - and I’m 67. Go and have a look at the pre-opening 1199 Vlogs by Lewis and Remy at Whistler this week to compare the difference between something you and I can stagger down and something at WC level. Also, seek out Brendan Fairclough’s opinion on what a WC track should be: he recons it should have a few features only the top ten can race with slower chicken lines for the rest. An extreme view that I’m not sure I agree with, but I am certain this ‘cleansing for speed’ is a mistake and, sadly, we’ll likely have a terrible injury if something isn’t done. Hope I’m wrong…
Yeah, I can relate to this, I don't really like this track and the possible outcome as a WC race. I might watch but I don't like when there are so many injuries in a season.
I saw the 1199 in creekside and i will see the race on Sunday but it is not crazy scary compared to Champery, Val di sole. But Loudenvielle track is a joke. It is so annoying especially for France that tons of amazing track and bikepark. I hope we will see DH races in Chatel, Champery, Morzine one day.
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 ouais exactement bordel. Qu'est-ce que c'est que cette manie de trouver des pistes improbables ? Chiotte ils ont pris une piste existante et ont coupé les virages ? 🤔
And then you watch the preview of Crankworx Whistler downhill track 1199... This Loudenvielle track seems boring, not big technical sections except the grass off cambers and one or two big gaps...
I rode the track and the last third of the track is pretty steep,in the go pro looks like flat but far from that. It is not a very complicated track cos I'm bad an made it,kind of very old school track. Loic looks amazing fast.
This (and Andorra to a lesser extent) are what I think about when people complain about having the same tracks every year. (Leogang, Lenzerheide, FT Bill, VDS, Snowshoe, St Anne) Thing is, those tracks are really good! They're at the right difficulty and have a lot of variation. Are there really not that many places that have the terrain and can afford to put on a WC? Fees too high? Who knows.
Off camber looks fun, could you guys build the first road crossing to be a proper road gap? Thinking of those photos of people back flipping over the Tour de France pack.
hmmm.....is this an Enduro stage? There doesn't seem to be any defining feature or wow factor to this new course. Brand new location - clean slate, and this is all they could come up with - a single line elephant train?
@@benrobinson1841 There are sections that look pretty fresh, and as it gets ridden in will probably blow out some of that dust thus exposing whatever rocks are underneath. The off camber sections will probably be super nasty if its a wet race, unless a rut cuts in. All things aside the track is still above my pay grade. lol
Lourdes is much more sensitive to rain mid-race (completely changes the track) and doesnt have enough uplift capacity which is one of the reasons UCI asked for a change of venue. That plus the fact that they want to run more disciplines at the same venue. Lourdes doesnt really have trails suitable for enduro --- the new UCI format is leading to more compromises
Thanks Loic! Can’t wait to see you smash it on race day! That track will be far more interesting when it’s wet! Gonna be fast. Weird as fuck little finish gate!
Top section is way too dull for a WC. Not sure what could be done to improve it, maybe some really big jumps. Gets better in the woods, might be interesting if it’s wet.
Thanks for sharing Loic. Was hoping for better track from France though. Guessing Lourdes was struck off due to the mile long queue for the uplift last year! Good luck in Fort Bill this weekend!
Anyone here could hear what Bernard Kerr was asking for on his last interview? Bigger and better jumps! This track looks like those back of the early 90s when DH MTB was just begging.
This track looks mad fun to ride but for a WC level track, it seems like it’s lacking in that top level of riding challenge. If it’s dry, riders will be absolutely hauling.
One positive is there will be no excuse not to have 100% of the track shown during live TV coverage. The winner will be the one with biggest quads. Pedal fest for half of the track.
UCI killing modern Downhill racing, the tracks is wonderfull but not the level of a Red Bull UCI DH Cup! Please keep Downhill bike far from bikepark tracks bancked berms. For more Red Bull Hardline tracks in the UCI World Cup please!
@@iwanttoliveinthewoods yes british weather sucks, but that was Welsh weather which sucks even more. So disappointed that it wasn't run, was really looking forward to a properly televised Red Bull event.
J'aurais voulu être chauvin .....mais en faite, je trouve la piste très bof bof....pas de cailloux, bcp de relevés, peu de choix de trajectoire.....assez monotone dans l'ensemble... j'espère me tromper, mais ça promet pas un spectacle digne d'une vraie WC....on verra bien😅
Je me dit pareil mais pour l’instant la piste a connu 10 riders… vu la terre il va y avoir des ornières et dans le cassant y’a plusieurs choix de traj a voir ! Ça peut être intéressant.
@@guillaumepercheron9997 que je me suis bien planté. Qq ajustements à faire, notamment à l'arrivée. Après faut dire qu'ils ont bien élargi entre cette vidéo et la WC. Super piste. Bravo Mr PAULAN
Looks ok to me, after all its a downhill world cup, not freeride world cup. Sure some more line options and a rock garden or whatever would be nice, but its also ok if not every track is insanely techy.
This track looks like it's been chosen above the myriad of other potential tracks purely for ease of filming, but with no consideration for what looks exciting in said footage.. This is all about producing product (footage, & they can't even do that right) & very little about the race, what excites the riders or the fans.. This track looks tamer than most regional tracks in litterally any country.. How is this a UCI WC Downhill track? It has litterally nothing going for it.. No tech, no trees, no decent jumps, no lines, hardly any corners? No excitement.. Only the French fans will make this race remotely exciting.. They should look at the 1199 Steve Smith track in Whistler to see a World Class track 🔥.. Even Taniwha Downhill in Rotorua NZ is levels above this.. If UCI removes Fort William & MSA from the roster next year, then VDS will be the only track worthy of a World Cup race.. UCI is fucking horrendous..
1998 called and they want there crappy grass track back, the sooner we move to tighter technical downhill tracks the better. That’s just going to lead to high speed high consequence racing that’s dull to watch. Loics bike setup looks just un real but I can’t help but feel this is going to be another dull open race. Is it too late to drop this for Champery and get some real racing back
comparing it to the Whistler's 1199 it looks... utterly boring :/ No line choice, mostly bikepark trail. Kinda sad :( Hoped for some excitement this season due to some changes happening
I think we will possibly see some enduro bikes, a Blue flow trail lol!!!
Still think it's a blue flow trail after all the footage from the pro's this week? You had no idea what you were on about....😂
This race will be fairly Vanilla if it's dry. Could be tricky in the wet though? Pray for rain and let the Brits do their thing! "Stay on your bike Danny"!
unpopular opinion but I'm really looking forward to watching the racing on this track! I'm not sure why people are saying it looks flat...some parts look steeper than most other tracks! I'm a huge fan of simply cutting a rough path off piste and letting things figure themselves out. It's the opposite to tracks like Fort William which I could fall asleep watching. Get hundreds of riders down this one and I guarantee the track will evolve and keep everyone on their toes.
Cause people are dumb as shit, it’s so frustrating I can’t
Looks fun to ride... WC Track though?...
3min 55s is the dry chilling benchmark then. Positives: 1. I love Loic’s riding 2. It’s fast 3. The spectacle will improve if it’s wet Negatives: 1. This is at Regional DH standard, not UCI WC 2. Consequently it will run very, very fast 3. And as a result, there will be a continuation of this year’s high injury rate. Anyway, because I’m a hypocrite, I’ll be watching every second.
😂😂😂 not sure you know how steep some sections are... definitly a wc track, try it then speak..
@@benoitcazauxx Steep with no tech. Looks like a blue flow trail.
@@benoitcazauxxso is steep the only thing a wc need? 🤡
@@benoitcazauxx Fair enough, but even I could get down that with a couple of breathers on the way - and I’m 67. Go and have a look at the pre-opening 1199 Vlogs by Lewis and Remy at Whistler this week to compare the difference between something you and I can stagger down and something at WC level. Also, seek out Brendan Fairclough’s opinion on what a WC track should be: he recons it should have a few features only the top ten can race with slower chicken lines for the rest. An extreme view that I’m not sure I agree with, but I am certain this ‘cleansing for speed’ is a mistake and, sadly, we’ll likely have a terrible injury if something isn’t done. Hope I’m wrong…
Yeah, I can relate to this, I don't really like this track and the possible outcome as a WC race. I might watch but I don't like when there are so many injuries in a season.
Whistler's new track 1199 is 1000x more suitable for WC event.
I saw the 1199 in creekside and i will see the race on Sunday but it is not crazy scary compared to Champery, Val di sole. But Loudenvielle track is a joke. It is so annoying especially for France that tons of amazing track and bikepark. I hope we will see DH races in Chatel, Champery, Morzine one day.
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 ouais exactement bordel. Qu'est-ce que c'est que cette manie de trouver des pistes improbables ? Chiotte ils ont pris une piste existante et ont coupé les virages ? 🤔
@@skippylegrandgourou2069that’s facts I want champery back for years
@@AlainBoudard Je pense qu'ils voulaient changer des alpes et apres c'est au plus offrant pour les destinations. Lourdes etait bien aussi comme piste.
was gonna said the same... looking at both track you would think they are for a complete different discipline
Did you make a mistake and ride the XC track??
This track looks like a bikepark track, not like a Downhill WC track. Not to many lines to choose, pure single track
Literally looks like you could ride most of it on an XC bike
The Enduro tracks are way narlier than that. Pretty sad year for DH. Bernard Kerr sums it up on a TH-cam video
And then you watch the preview of Crankworx Whistler downhill track 1199... This Loudenvielle track seems boring, not big technical sections except the grass off cambers and one or two big gaps...
I rode the track and the last third of the track is pretty steep,in the go pro looks like flat but far from that. It is not a very complicated track cos I'm bad an made it,kind of very old school track. Loic looks amazing fast.
well..turned out that you all lack of experience about judging dh tracks
looks like a nice dog walk path for grannies
The people who complain about Lenzerheide and Leogang will have a field day on this one - or a stroke 😅
This (and Andorra to a lesser extent) are what I think about when people complain about having the same tracks every year. (Leogang, Lenzerheide, FT Bill, VDS, Snowshoe, St Anne) Thing is, those tracks are really good! They're at the right difficulty and have a lot of variation. Are there really not that many places that have the terrain and can afford to put on a WC? Fees too high? Who knows.
You are still a legend, Loic, and that was a very long track by the look of it. Thank you for sharing.
Looks like a flowtrail compared to other WC tracks😅
And it all seems to be one main line
Flow trail feet Kilian Bron
@@notetrail3826yea kinda looks like it, also seems like its quite tight at some spots
I bet some guys take the enduro 😂😂
@@Paul-ru3xj seen any enduro bikes this week in all the coverage? Nope. You have no idea what you're talking about.
la piste aura le temps de changer où elle est définitive ??
Loudenvielle is so awesome!
Looks like it'll be even more exciting if its a wet race 😀
Mamma mia, che concentrazione è determinazione in ogni movimento unico.... ❤🏅💪🌈
Cat 3 course looking sweet!
Off camber looks fun, could you guys build the first road crossing to be a proper road gap? Thinking of those photos of people back flipping over the Tour de France pack.
hmmm.....is this an Enduro stage? There doesn't seem to be any defining feature or wow factor to this new course. Brand new location - clean slate, and this is all they could come up with - a single line elephant train?
Track looks fun and flowy. Definitely steep, but that seems to be the extent of the "tech".
This is what people said about Andorra last year and it wound up being super gnarly
@@benrobinson1841 There are sections that look pretty fresh, and as it gets ridden in will probably blow out some of that dust thus exposing whatever rocks are underneath. The off camber sections will probably be super nasty if its a wet race, unless a rut cuts in.
All things aside the track is still above my pay grade. lol
Nice on LB for sharing advance footage.
Not the most exciting track I've ever seen. Maybe it will piss down and Danny Hart will win by 11 seconds 🙌🏻
I still prefer Lourdes: the track there is more technical and exciting. Loudenvielle's track looks like a flow and smooth trail: we can expect speed !
Totaly agree
Lourdes is much more sensitive to rain mid-race (completely changes the track) and doesnt have enough uplift capacity which is one of the reasons UCI asked for a change of venue. That plus the fact that they want to run more disciplines at the same venue. Lourdes doesnt really have trails suitable for enduro --- the new UCI format is leading to more compromises
Lourdes was my favorite track of the circuit, but the lift was a bottle neck.
The top part makes me think, what’s the slowest most technical track of them all? Is that more to ride and see?
Yeah Bruni!! Other level🔥🔥🤘
Quelle plaisir voir ta ligne ça donne super bien en GoPro let's goooo LOIC BRUNI 💪🇨🇵❤️ 💯
The entrance to the bridge looks SKETCHY.
Looks like a fun track! I like all the natural stuff, although I would have gotten lost a bunch lol.
Sick background!! Good luck Loic
Thanks Loic! Can’t wait to see you smash it on race day!
That track will be far more interesting when it’s wet! Gonna be fast. Weird as fuck little finish gate!
Looks like a good enduro stage
Why not making one in Bad Wildbad the track there is crazy huge rocks, drops everything you need for a exiting race
The track looks fast
Thanks for the preview Loic. This track blows. Not just for lack of technical features, etc but new sections are not added with good connectors. wtf
Nice flowtrail 😄
Seems like the Enduro tracks are harder than that. 3 minute motorway
what a nice blue flow trail for enduro... oh wait.. this is WC DH track nvm
Ça paraît bien plus simple que val di sole 😂😂
Second half is not too bad aye
is it funner than it looks?
That's a WC downhill track 🫤
Might want to throw a few rocks in there.
Is that a blue?
Who made that course the XC people
Seems like there isn’t much line choice at any point of the track but i guess it at least looks fast. Idk if it will make for good racing though
solide Loic solide!!!
Best get me bike out if that's how tracks are getting 😂😂
Smoothest WC track of all time?
Top section is way too dull for a WC. Not sure what could be done to improve it, maybe some really big jumps. Gets better in the woods, might be interesting if it’s wet.
En vrai, je suis pas fan du tracé
They should have keep Lourdes as a French event in this area, not too far from Loudenvielle after all...
More fast, one line BikePark crap, well done 😂
But Bruni we love you 🚴♂️💨🤟
Maybe better on an enduro rig for this one 🤔
freeze @ 0:30, awesome seats to spectate lol
Thanks for sharing Loic. Was hoping for better track from France though. Guessing Lourdes was struck off due to the mile long queue for the uplift last year! Good luck in Fort Bill this weekend!
Le Meilleur
Speed:10
Steep:9
Jumps:8
Line choice: 1
Tech:0
I didnt see a single root on that track XD
That will be fast and a single line at least it will get beat up and be very rough in quick order.
The bottom half was definitely more interesting than the top. Not sure this will be a favourite of the racers or the fans.
Guess you were wrong
@@LvH_racing Yes I was.
Is this really a WC TRACK? Looks like a freeway. All out the whole way down!
First part looks boring on Gopro, then it goes steep and might be fun with race speed on a damaged track.
Let's see!
La piste fait pas rêver aux 1er abords ! On verra bien !
That track is sick
??? We watched the Same Video?
Hopefully they will get a better commentary team for this race..
On veut des pistes plus chiantes svp. Je m’amuse trop là
Ça doit être à cause des parties hyper techniques 😋
Fair to say this track is not up to UCI work cup standard
At this point they should rename BikePark World Cup 😅
Anyone here could hear what Bernard Kerr was asking for on his last interview?
Bigger and better jumps!
This track looks like those back of the early 90s when DH MTB was just begging.
Yeah, but I really know what he thinks jumps are adding to the racing. They add spectacle, but don't really do much to affect the racing imo
chelou le tracer
😮😮 looool what is that??? Down-Hill track or cross-country? Not real, Just a Joke or?
Looks a fast track, but not much tech. Looks pretty lame imo.
Plutôt Nice la piste en vrai 🤩🤩
Gravelbike-track
This track looks mad fun to ride but for a WC level track, it seems like it’s lacking in that top level of riding challenge. If it’s dry, riders will be absolutely hauling.
Literally all the pro's are talking about how technical and steep it is. Not lacking at all, it's full blown dh at its limit.
The line is so confusing , i might be part of those trees somewhere around he's 2 minutes run
xc world cup?
One positive is there will be no excuse not to have 100% of the track shown during live TV coverage. The winner will be the one with biggest quads. Pedal fest for half of the track.
Compared to what you normally see in the DH World Cup, for a 'pro', this track is child's play.
Bring La Bresse back to World cup!!
C'est du bikepark classique!!🥴🥴 Déçu 😞 😔 Poutant loudenvielle à un très beau potentiel, mais peut être pas en DH ...
not looking like a WC DH level track.
Advantage to the bigger heavier athletes who can carry speed on a non technical pump track.
ez track
They should make one in australia even though theres only a few big mountains
Good video, thanks.
POV footage makes me think it’s going to be boring to watch.
Pas vraiment emballé par les premières vidéos de la piste. A voir le jour de la course.
UCI killing modern Downhill racing, the tracks is wonderfull but not the level of a Red Bull UCI DH Cup! Please keep Downhill bike far from bikepark tracks bancked berms. For more Red Bull Hardline tracks in the UCI World Cup please!
💯 hardline had some sick tech and sends, british weather sucks balls
@@iwanttoliveinthewoods yes british weather sucks, but that was Welsh weather which sucks even more. So disappointed that it wasn't run, was really looking forward to a properly televised Red Bull event.
J'aurais voulu être chauvin .....mais en faite, je trouve la piste très bof bof....pas de cailloux, bcp de relevés, peu de choix de trajectoire.....assez monotone dans l'ensemble... j'espère me tromper, mais ça promet pas un spectacle digne d'une vraie WC....on verra bien😅
Je me dit pareil mais pour l’instant la piste a connu 10 riders… vu la terre il va y avoir des ornières et dans le cassant y’a plusieurs choix de traj a voir ! Ça peut être intéressant.
Alors tu en dis quoi maintenant ?
@@guillaumepercheron9997 que je me suis bien planté.
Qq ajustements à faire, notamment à l'arrivée.
Après faut dire qu'ils ont bien élargi entre cette vidéo et la WC.
Super piste. Bravo Mr PAULAN
So it’s basically a cross country track
le tracé il es vraiment pas ouf je trouve c'est peu cassant
Looks ok to me, after all its a downhill world cup, not freeride world cup. Sure some more line options and a rock garden or whatever would be nice, but its also ok if not every track is insanely techy.
무주 코스같네...
This track looks like it's been chosen above the myriad of other potential tracks purely for ease of filming, but with no consideration for what looks exciting in said footage.. This is all about producing product (footage, & they can't even do that right) & very little about the race, what excites the riders or the fans..
This track looks tamer than most regional tracks in litterally any country.. How is this a UCI WC Downhill track? It has litterally nothing going for it.. No tech, no trees, no decent jumps, no lines, hardly any corners? No excitement.. Only the French fans will make this race remotely exciting.. They should look at the 1199 Steve Smith track in Whistler to see a World Class track 🔥.. Even Taniwha Downhill in Rotorua NZ is levels above this..
If UCI removes Fort William & MSA from the roster next year, then VDS will be the only track worthy of a World Cup race.. UCI is fucking horrendous..
Not gonna lie, kinda lame looking after watching the new 1199 DH track at Whistler!
Bien guezz la piste mdrrr
looks like a longer blue trail from BPW’s! Boring for a world cup track in 2023. That’s a trail bike track
1998 called and they want there crappy grass track back, the sooner we move to tighter technical downhill tracks the better. That’s just going to lead to high speed high consequence racing that’s dull to watch. Loics bike setup looks just un real but I can’t help but feel this is going to be another dull open race. Is it too late to drop this for Champery and get some real racing back
The end of the track looks like a little fart over the finish line, no drama to it.
comparing it to the Whistler's 1199 it looks... utterly boring :/ No line choice, mostly bikepark trail. Kinda sad :( Hoped for some excitement this season due to some changes happening
Why don't they just pave it? My grandma could ride that course, and she's dead. I hope it rains, only way this will be an interesting world cup.
Not looking like wc track