This panel's responses were heartbreaking. I felt like Rich Wilkerson Jr. had great intent with this panel and led with the hopes the answers would be better than they were. Some failures: 1) "What are we saved from?" - Judah said 'ourselves.' WHAT?! God saved us as individuals, so if God saves us as individuals, are we saved from the self God saves? No! We're saved from the wrath of God that is on the sin we've committed, which fills our souls without Jesus's payment applied to our lives. 2) "What is sin?" Simply put, it's disobedience. Bianca said sin was something that separates us from God, but why not define it as disobedience and breaking God's commands? 3) "How are we saved?" Veach said salvation is a gift through grace, and while true, the question was 'how,' and he never shared something as simple as Romans 10:9. He could have even gone deeper and explained Jesus's atoning sacrifice and imputation of Jesus's righteousness to us. 4-rest of the video) Give me theology, not stories and cliches. This did nothing to explain the work of sanctification or the Trinity. As a pastor, this breaks my heart; I would never have passed ordination with these answers. So many of these answers came back to a foundation of 'self-help' and not giving ourselves fully to God. Skilled speakers but lacking in theology. Here's the problem: this comment will be seen by some as 'religion' and hate, but it's not. Think about this: Let's build a house. The foundation is most important, and if there are cracks in it, the house will crumble. These are foundational questions, and there are not cracks; there's nothing there; no concrete was poured. I pray these folks left and studied to show themselves approved.
This just shows me how disingenuous these "preachers and sneakers" are. They know nothing and are new age feel good, prosperity gospel virtue signalers.
This seems like a very reformed perspective. Nothing they said is unChristian or heresy. Plenty of these positions have been held by respected leaders in the Church, some of whom were native speakers in the Greek that the New Testament was written in, for thousands of years (Origen, Gregory of Nyssa, etc). Even C.S. Lewis denied the concept of Penal Substitution.
Well said. I would add that we are also saved from the devil, adversary, the father of lies.... Jesus took the wrath of God on our behalf by being handed over to the consequences of sin (judgement, death), yes, but he is also the only human being to never be deceived by the lies of the evil one. We are saved also from deception and lies through the life of Christ which is our example of how to truly live. and none of this was mentioned.
You are saved from Hell. You are saved from God’s wrath. Oh this hurts. It is so simple to say. The day I realized that I was a sinner who needs saving and that my good works don’t cut it. When I realized that there is nothing good enough about me to dodge the reality of hell every thing changed. When I genuinely began to understand my sin and understand how worthy I am of hell is when I finally began to grasp how big the love of God truly is. What a great cost Jesus paid to save my soul. To purchase me. To adopt me. When you understand that you understand God’s love
Thank you, It seemed like it hurt them To say this. Which I think is crazy because if people truly understood this they would be tackling unsaved people to get them the truth
Its super encouraging to see Rich have a realization that the church world he has been a part of desperately needs a return to "Classic Christianity." You could really see this entire panel outside of Tennyson not understanding (or refusing to go there) what Rich was looking for. Praying for Vous Church, hoping this time bears much fruit and that they will lean into what Rich was striving for.
Someone let Judah know it is okay to say we are saved from the wrath of God through Christ absorbing our deserved judgment on the cross. Wow. "Saved from ourselves" ... why is he so afraid to just say what the Bible says in moments like this??
It’s almost like he wants to sound profound. I think it has to do with being a celebrity pastor. I don’t like lies thing to him. A bunch of mumble jumble and very little scripture to back it up. 😏
One of the main issues in the church today: people with the title of Pastor joke about how "deep" very basic theological questions are. You guys are the TEACHERS. It's not humility to brag about how much deep study you are lacking - it's foolishness. Example: We are NOT "saved from ourselves." We are saved from God's wrath. Speak the truth in the fullness of truth or do not claim the title of Pastor. I know that may seem harsh, but this has to eventually stop in our cultural moment. The stage you guys have is too large.
Exactly. Amen brother. In Acts 2 we see the example that led thousands to repentance and it was the the truth- the full truth that pierced their hearts. The Word is enough. The gospel is enough. Jesus is enough. This lack of reverence for the Lord is sad and scary because of the level of influence that they have.
The Father sent His Son to save us from.... Himself? That's not very Biblical. Yes, ministers can get creative in how they package theology in order to be relevant, in the same way Christ used parables, even if we may not like their more modern examples. For your definition, however, we need to be clear on what God's wrath is. The wages of sin is death. It is the same death Christ experienced on the cross. He didn't die from loss of blood, either. He experienced the wrath of God. And God's wrath is eternal separation from those who choose to no longer remain-"they are like a branch that withers away" (John 15:6). "They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power" (2 Thes. 1:9). And eternal destruction is not eternal destroying, because that too isn't biblical. Both root and branch are ultimately no more (Malachi 4:1).
@@jongrand we are literally saved from the wrath of God. The "cup" mentioned by Jesus when He prayed to the Father is the wrath of God. In the OT the Cup is a reference to thw wrath of God. Jesus literally saved us from God's own wrath because His wrath os the consequences of our sin. It's 100% biblical
We’re not saved from ourselves. We’re saved from the wrath of God - refer to the bible verses: Romans 5:9, 1 Thess 1:10, John 3:36. We’re saved from God and to God.
Yes!!! He said a whole lot of nothing with his answer. You can’t use the words “wrath of God” or “hell” you need to tickle peoples ears and make them happy and give them what they want to hear
Paul, Augustine, Luther, Calvin, Spurgeon, Lewis…and now this. The understanding of the absolute majesty and depth of the gospel is lost on this panel. How many of these men would suffer and die for this gospel? Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Love the spirit in which this was put on by rich. And also really love the attempts to clean up some of the confusing responses that were given. It would have been better if it was just rich and the theologian. But in a way it still was useful because it exposed some not super serious thinkers in this space. But again, shout out to Rich for what seems like a serious attempt to even be theologically literate in his own right. That's such a blessing to see
This crowd is so easily entertained. When did childhood Sunday school start to become the only theology that charismatics ever know. We need to start to level up and get back to the rigor that the church used to be known for before American/therapeutic Christianity became popular
I say this respectfully and loving. This is not good theology. GOD saves you from hell. Sin is going against God's law .these should not be hard questions . This is basic theology. And these are seeker sensitive pastors. And then also on women can not be pastors. 1 Timothy 2:12 . I would recommend people like Vodie Baucham, Justin peters, John McArthur. There is this great you tube channel Called fight for the truth 💫
Yep, and Judah Smith didn't come close to it. Then the idea of what sin is turned into a Ted talk about evangelizing by telling people their life will be better with Jesus (avoidance of sin language). Prosperity language avoids the use of sin and wrath 🥴
I am a ransom atonement theory guy myself (Chronicles of Narnia allegory). Jesus defeated all evil, bought us BACK from death itself. I just don’t subscribe to the angry God theology - I don’t believe God was satisfied by punishing Jesus - I don’t see God sitting in heaven just NEEDING to punish someone. I disagree with that framing.
@@brysondunn238 I can see where you're coming from. I don't think God's wrath means that God can't sit tight in heaven and just NEEDS to punish someone. He's wrathful because he's a just God- punishing evil and sinners. I believe God is a HAPPY God and at no point in history is He worried or panicked. Because our righteous deeds are "filthy rags", God sending His son Jesus to WILLINGLY take on His wrath is LOVE.
Goodness , is this where Christianity is!!! Salvation is off, we are not saved from ourselves , this is not what Acts had in Mind for the future of Christianity at all.
I liked a lot of things that they said, but I have to reiterate what others have commented: We’re saved from bondage to sin (which I think they covered using other terms), but we’re also saved from the wrath of God against sin. Without Christ we stand alone before God in our sin and suffer its just punishment. With Christ, we stand before God with the righteousness that Christ has given us resulting everlasting peace and joy in the presence of God.
This was really sad although it seems like Rich is trying to improve his church’s biblical literacy, which is encouraging. Although it’s difficult to teach biblical literacy from a panel of biblically illiterate teachers. I really wish Dr. Tennyson would have analyzed the panelists’ answers and showed the audience that they shouldn’t be clapping for the things they were hearing.
Oh boy. This is a mess. A lot of misguided half-truths about the gospel of Christ. If there is anyone that is learning about Jesus through these speakers, please read the Bible IN ITS ENTIRETY for yourself. The Holy Spirit will lead you into ALL truth. This ain’t it.
Judah’s first response was pretty cringe worthy. Reminded me of a reaction by a teen at youth group that goes a lot but doesn’t actually read the Bible. Basically me at 15 years old. I recognize it because I too used to humor and blabber my way through an answer without having a legit answer. Just a bunch of common church words. These are “leaders”. Sad.
They probably just enjoy wearing clothes like this. I enjoy fashion, it’s almost a hobby. So it’s not really an ‘effort’ it’s just an overflow of my natural interests.
Jesus wore everyday clothes like everyone else when He taught. The Pharisees had their garments just like suits today. Do you want these pastors in suits, covered up, and being stuck up? I will say Judah’s shorts are a little short but I mean, they preaching the word and they’re dressed normal but nothing outrageous.
@@IkeyP58 I think its deeper than that. It shows a level of importance of self and vanity. Makes me think of 1 peter "Your adornment should not be an external one: braiding the hair, wearing gold jewelry, or dressing in fine clothes,b 4 but rather the hidden character of the heart, expressed in the imperishable beauty of a gentle and calm disposition, which is precious in the sight of God." I know this is about wives but it shows that your external apperance is not what God desires. Also its not just the religious elites like a pharasie, go to any Orthodox or Catholic (you know the 1st thousand years of christiantiy pre reformation) and all Preachers of the words always "dressed" up out of revererance and not to be "cool". Im just saying it rubs me personally the wrong way. Are you doing it to please God or man?
Exactly. I made a comment here that if you want to hear a panel with real depth of biblical theological knowledge, look up the panels over the years from the ligonier conferences that Sproul held for so many years.
Judah starts with a joke... because he doesn't have sound theology. He said a bunch of nothing. I clicked on this because I was surprised these names would have a "Classic Christianity conversation on Theology". Also, interesting that the only sound person's name is not in the title (Dr. Tennison).
Dr Tennision (the guy in the green hat), nailed it, when it talked about the importance of the Gospel. Kind of wish people in the comment section would stop grouping him in with Judah Smith and the rest of the panel that lacked understanding.
Amazed how much these guys Love themselves and the sound of their own voice and the way they look. Judah’s first response, as expected, was sadly man-centred. They simply should not have a platform until they go back to seminary, and learn how to carefully, thoughtfully and prayerfully exegete God’s Word. They’re trivialising and watering down the effects of sin on humanity and the wrath and Sovereignty of God. Underpinning their entire thinking is a gospel of ‘me’, not Christ. Furtick, Osteen, Houston, Smith, Veich, all preach the same empty message. Every time I hear ‘lean in’ I see a red flag too.
"And the way they look". Do you love ad hominem attacks? Also, the problem here was Judah, who is clearly spritually weak and afraid to speak the truth. Meanwhile, people like the guy with the green hat nailed it, when it came to talking about the Gospel. Stop grouping everyone into the same category.
@@Stew91 well in that case, guy in the green hat et al, should be calling out/correcting Judah if that’s the case Justin, for not presenting the truth of the Gospel. They have a massive platform, massive responsibility. Sick and tired of seeing this type of thing where Christ is diminished and man elevated. It’s often subtle, as Jesus is injected into the convo. So no, I stand by my remarks. Christian s have become too afraid to both say the truth and even rebuke where necessary, as it get labeled ‘judging’. Nonsense. Call it when necessary.
@@edwarddebone402 Ok *Edward* , then please tell me how the guy in the green hat diminished Christ and elevated man. Judah was wrong and flawed, and then when the guy in the green hat took responsibility and spoke the truth when it was his turn to speak to get back on the mic. He called the truth of the gospel as it was and corrected the watered down version of Judah said prior. Also, the guy in green is easily one of the most passionate speakers that I have seen *who does not* water down the gospel (beyond just this video). Moreover, the fact that you said, "lul - love the love the sound of their own voices *and the way they look* (making fun of their looks) , says enough about the way you are judging, *not* the fact that you are judging. I'm sick of people like you pointing the finger at those who do the right thing and then someone blaming them for "not speaking the truth" or "staying silent", (when if he was afraid, he would have danced around the gospel like Judah did) and making fun of how a person looks. Your argument is bullcrap. I stand by what I say, and you can also criticize someone *without* attacking their appearance, which isn't Christ-like. You have an issue with what I said? Take it up with the Word of God.
To echo what a lot of the comments are saying Rich def seemed to have his heart in the right place for having this, But wow other than Rich and the Theologian there are some baby Christians when it comes to the word on that stage. Making the simplicity of the Gospel SO complicated by fluffing it up with their desire to make themselves look wise. I'm so encouraged to see other brothers and sisters posting their disappointment in the lack of biblical truth in this video as many believers now a day have seemed to overlook. Last thought we need to stop being so focused on making the Gospel look cool to the world and be more focused on it being conveyed biblically accurate i.e The Truth
I won’t add even more negative comments to this comment section even if it is factual, but for actual bible based theology, this is a swing and a miss. There are so many resources for good theology that listening to motivational speakers isn’t necessary for learning it. I would recommend the panels over the last decade from Ligonier conferences.
THIS IS THE MESSAGE YOU NEED TO HEAR: “From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, z “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Matthew 4:17 You’re not being saved from yourself but if you are saved, you’re being saved from God. Because all have fallen short of the glory of God and are at enmity with Him. However, if you repent and believe on the lord Jesus Christ you will have eternal life and peace with God. Do not believe in these false teaching for they lead to damnation. BELIEVE IN THE GOSPEL OF GOD, which is Christ and Him crucified. Soli Deo Gloria
Why is theological education and biblical literacy a tool we use? Theology is life! it is about digging the bible about what it means fo me to follow and obey Christ in the world we live today.
There is a lot of great truth here but there are things here to be concerned about. Where is the urgency for souls to be saved? Where is the pain that many people are going to reject the message and go to hell? Where is the urgency on the danger of sin? If I was a non-Christian watching this I’d be sitting back thinking I don’t need God as my savior, but more as a positive life coach.
It’s absolutely astounding to me that these jesus hipsters can sit around and talk in clichés and catchphrases and captivate an entire stadium with this conversation. Meanwhile god does absolutely nothing and is absolutely quiet at all times, leaving the word to their own experiences. it’s just so funny to me
This is difficult to watch. “Soundbite sermons” that sound cute, funny, and profound to the biblically illiterate. I agree with other comments about Rich’s good intentions. Knowing Rich’s family ministry heritage, I am surprised he puts up with the theological inaccuracies throughout this panel discussion.
This group of people would probably be the last people I would want to hear about theology from. They are all sadly shallow and led astray as to what the church model/presentation of the gospel should be.
Why are you grouping the guy in the green hat in with the rest of the group? He spoke way more truth than the others combined. Stop grouping the sheeps with the goats.
I get the joking about not paying attention in Bible school or not having a super deep theological knowledge, but man that is not setting a good example for the church. If you just wanna be a Christian motivational speaker do it. Teachers ought to understand and know the Word and not be confounded by simple questions
Ruslan brought me here. This was painful to watch. This entire panel except Pastor Rich and the Dr. need to go do a deep dive into scripture again. This was extremely exposing and showed how far the church is getting away from the meat of the gospel. Praying for these Pastors to get back to the word of God and gain fresh revelation of His Word. Discernment is increasing in the bride of Christ and we're starting to see straight through and discern those that are truly walking in the revelation of who Jesus is and living it daily. Pastors aren't going to be able to hide behind their pulpits and popularity anymore.
If I could be completely transparent, I clicked this video so that I could have ammunition for why these preachers and teachers aren’t worth listening to… When I look in, I see fame, wealth, beauty, and relevance packaged up neatly into some hip, trending pastor who has more numerical following than the risen Lord they profess and teach of. And let’s be honest, no one really cares about my opinion or uncharitable view upon these men or women. But if I may, I just want to say how absolutely impressed, encouraged, and unequivocally edified this video was, and these pastors and teachers were for my heart, mind, and soul. The way in which the Gospel of Christ was so articulately, and yet understandably displayed, was such a beautiful example that I really have some growing to do in the area of charity and humility. Do I agree 100% with how everything was teased out? No. This is not, and should never be my aim, though. I came here to poke fun and raise my nose, and left on my knees before the one, true God who calls me “son.” I repent for my arrogance, and thank you for your faithfulness. Eager to watch more. Thank you.
This entire panel is anointed, but especially the professor! I didn’t want to go back to college since I graduated, but I’ll be the first one in his class🤣💯🙌🏽
What we are seeing here, folks, is what happens is the distinction between men and boys talking. I am a Reformed and baptistic pastor so I would have my disagreement with Dr. Tennison...but he brought light and heat to this panel while the other contributors (Pastor Rich excepted) brought barely a match...
In agreement 59mmich. They are talking about theology and have a women pastor? That right there says something about their shakey theology. He opens up and says if we don't know the bible you can't teach it. Well the plank in the eye is being overlooked. We need to pray for them for sure. They can't even answer what we are saved from. We are being saved from God .
The guy in the green hat killed it though, when it came to discussing the importance of the Gospel. The problem here was Judah, who seems to be a lot spiritually weaker than other people on the panel.
Romans 1 wrath is not the cause but the consequence of the problem = idolatry. Three times Paul says wrath is being handed over to the consequence of putting creation over creator. Paul therefore goes on to declare that salvation does more to save us from wrath (the consequence) but to change me from the inside out (the cause). His power takes me from slave to sin to instrument of righteousness. So isn’t “saved from self” as good or potentially a better answer than “wrath” to “saved from what?” The full work of salvation is not just get me out of hell, it makes me a new creation. Not just to fix the “wrath problem” but to fix the “idol problem”.
Well this would be true if the problem of idolatry is conveyed through the clip. Sadly while idolatry is a bondage to self it is a worship problem... which means the sinfulness of sin is rooted in the holiness and worth of God. But that is not clear destination the clip seems to bring most of its audience. I think the reason you are able to point it towards idolatry is the influence of scripture and biblically sound preachers, i suppose. But Judah Smith's bent is on a false distinction between law and grace living that is derived from antinomian teachers like Joseph Prince. Thus the frequent echo of emphasizing the problem of mentioning the practice of the believer... not seeing that the practice proves one's profession and is an important fruit in Paul's writings as well.
This was painful to watch . Why did the kid in the “I met Jesus” shirt called her stupid after she spoke on min 32:20? And she stayed quite 😒😒😒😒😒 READ YOUR BIBLE !
12 minutes in and this is painful and I can't finish watching. Blue hat is there in shorts, (first red flag-there's a suitable place for wearing shorts and it's not up on the pulpit), he's kicking his legs up and down, speaking in circles about being saved from ourselves? -and the panel nods and claps! I'm sorry, this is unfortunate 🙏🏾
Calling real people “characters” shows that one doesn’t believe in the people of the Bible (actual history). Judah made a bunch of random claims about nothing of substance while using as many crafty, depthless words imaginable. “Jesus wants to save you…” and says “nobody wants that.” Absurdity and a mockery of our savior.
Salvation - a path cleared in a burning building which provides you 👉🏽OPPORTUNITY👈🏽 to 👉🏽GET UP AND WALK👈🏽 out of the building before you burn up with it… 😐 It’s not a License to burn up in a burning building just because you see a path cleared!!! That’s not how Christ works!!! “You will go on to DO GREATER THINGS!!!!” “All men will be judged according to 👉🏽THEIR WORKS👈🏽” NOT THEIR BELIEFS!!!! If you believe in Christ you will attempt to walk as he walked!!! Not celebrate him doing everything so you don’t have to do anything that is not scriptural!!!! Saved from real time death penalty!? YES!!! Saved from the second death by way of God’s judgement!? NO!!!! YOUR WORKS DETERMINE THIS AS A RESULT OF YOU USING SALVATION AS YOUR STARTING LINE!!! Salvation is NOT A FINISH-LINE!!! It is the starting line by which all things in the state of our world through the blood of Christ 👉🏽Can 👈🏽 be built!!! Are you doing the work AFTER salvation or simply focused on the fact that salvation has been offered!? That’s like sitting in a burning building in celebrating the fact that Christ cleared a path until you burn up having never got up and walked out of it!
I don't think I like Judah Smith's answer to that 1st question... Ironic they're talking about theology... Saved from ourselves??? I honestly think that is the furthest thing from what the bible says... God created us. We are His creation.... We are saved from SIN. Not "our sin" because sin isn't ours. Sin is sin.... Saved from hell. That is a reality. I am mind boggled.
Need to really dive in on good, real theology. This ain’t it. The professor was spot on. I don’t know what the rest where doing there. And sorry but Judah is not a preacher nor a pastor and is in need of serious help.
Yep - this is why I’m converting to Catholicism. The shallow, relativist, me-centric theology from virtually all of these pastors is reckless & is leading people to hell. Open up scripture, humble yourselves, and do better.
Can you please explain how the guy in green hat is leading people to hell, when he was the only one to speak the truth there? Also, if you're leaving Christianity because of some people who set bad examples of what a Christian should be, than that says more about you.
Biblically and theologically speaking, that woman shouldn’t have been allowed to speak such ridiculous unbiblical nonsense. Less motivational self help and more bible.
Man these people look ridiculous. Making the Gospel a gimmick and sales pitch dressing like that. How is someone supposed to take you seriously that you take the Gospel seriously when you look the fads of the world, which glorify novelty
( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? ) Quran 2:62 '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques ) Quran 22:40 [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might. Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ? ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? ) Quran 5 48 ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions Islam mean "submission" to God ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God ) Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God? Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work. Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God ) The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds ) God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him. ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa ) Quran 5:5 ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.'' Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion. Question to Muslim and Christian: Does God / Allah only answer your pray ? And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray? Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity? Quran 5:48 '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise ) On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils. '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
The Gospel: Plain and Simple “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3 Ask someone today if they are saved and you will most likely hear responses like these: “I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-termine whether or not a person actually knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what the gospel is and has left a devastating effect of people not knowing what it is that they are saved from nor how they are saved; which leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation. Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church sounding phrases that do not communicate anything. But rather present God’s word with clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel: plain and simple. Sin was passed upon all men by one man Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin (Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good works one might do we are still found sinners in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even one law we are found guilty. It is for this reason of not being able to create our own righteousness and being born in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus 3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross 2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial, and resurrection on our behalf that we are able to have peace with God and forgiveness of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good news is unto all but only those that believe in it are made righteous in Christ (Romans 3:22). It is then after we have heard this good news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit and we are now part of Christ’s body the church (Eph 1:13) There is nothing that we need to do, no good works that are required, and no bad works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39). Faith and belief in this information from God’s word is the gospel. The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your heart. The gospel is not making him lord of your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not being baptized with water. So next time someone asks you if you are saved. Give them the clear assured answer “Yes! And let me tell you why Find more free resources at: www.graceambassadors.com
This panel's responses were heartbreaking. I felt like Rich Wilkerson Jr. had great intent with this panel and led with the hopes the answers would be better than they were. Some failures:
1) "What are we saved from?" - Judah said 'ourselves.' WHAT?! God saved us as individuals, so if God saves us as individuals, are we saved from the self God saves? No! We're saved from the wrath of God that is on the sin we've committed, which fills our souls without Jesus's payment applied to our lives.
2) "What is sin?" Simply put, it's disobedience. Bianca said sin was something that separates us from God, but why not define it as disobedience and breaking God's commands?
3) "How are we saved?" Veach said salvation is a gift through grace, and while true, the question was 'how,' and he never shared something as simple as Romans 10:9. He could have even gone deeper and explained Jesus's atoning sacrifice and imputation of Jesus's righteousness to us.
4-rest of the video) Give me theology, not stories and cliches. This did nothing to explain the work of sanctification or the Trinity.
As a pastor, this breaks my heart; I would never have passed ordination with these answers. So many of these answers came back to a foundation of 'self-help' and not giving ourselves fully to God. Skilled speakers but lacking in theology. Here's the problem: this comment will be seen by some as 'religion' and hate, but it's not. Think about this: Let's build a house. The foundation is most important, and if there are cracks in it, the house will crumble. These are foundational questions, and there are not cracks; there's nothing there; no concrete was poured. I pray these folks left and studied to show themselves approved.
Encouraged to see this is the top comment. Thank you Ryan
This just shows me how disingenuous these "preachers and sneakers" are. They know nothing and are new age feel good, prosperity gospel virtue signalers.
Truth be told.
Yes and amen.
Shalom🕊🔥
This seems like a very reformed perspective. Nothing they said is unChristian or heresy. Plenty of these positions have been held by respected leaders in the Church, some of whom were native speakers in the Greek that the New Testament was written in, for thousands of years (Origen, Gregory of Nyssa, etc). Even C.S. Lewis denied the concept of Penal Substitution.
Well said. I would add that we are also saved from the devil, adversary, the father of lies.... Jesus took the wrath of God on our behalf by being handed over to the consequences of sin (judgement, death), yes, but he is also the only human being to never be deceived by the lies of the evil one. We are saved also from deception and lies through the life of Christ which is our example of how to truly live.
and none of this was mentioned.
You are saved from Hell. You are saved from God’s wrath. Oh this hurts. It is so simple to say. The day I realized that I was a sinner who needs saving and that my good works don’t cut it. When I realized that there is nothing good enough about me to dodge the reality of hell every thing changed. When I genuinely began to understand my sin and understand how worthy I am of hell is when I finally began to grasp how big the love of God truly is. What a great cost Jesus paid to save my soul. To purchase me. To adopt me. When you understand that you understand God’s love
Thank you, It seemed like it hurt them To say this. Which I think is crazy because if people truly understood this they would be tackling unsaved people to get them the truth
Amen amen amen! After they dodged the correct answer I knew I couldn’t watch this for another half hour. I pray they stop bowing before Baal. 🙏🏽
Its super encouraging to see Rich have a realization that the church world he has been a part of desperately needs a return to "Classic Christianity." You could really see this entire panel outside of Tennyson not understanding (or refusing to go there) what Rich was looking for. Praying for Vous Church, hoping this time bears much fruit and that they will lean into what Rich was striving for.
Someone let Judah know it is okay to say we are saved from the wrath of God through Christ absorbing our deserved judgment on the cross. Wow. "Saved from ourselves" ... why is he so afraid to just say what the Bible says in moments like this??
It’s almost like he wants to sound profound. I think it has to do with being a celebrity pastor. I don’t like lies thing to him. A bunch of mumble jumble and very little scripture to back it up. 😏
AMEN!!!
One of the main issues in the church today: people with the title of Pastor joke about how "deep" very basic theological questions are. You guys are the TEACHERS. It's not humility to brag about how much deep study you are lacking - it's foolishness. Example: We are NOT "saved from ourselves." We are saved from God's wrath. Speak the truth in the fullness of truth or do not claim the title of Pastor.
I know that may seem harsh, but this has to eventually stop in our cultural moment. The stage you guys have is too large.
Exactly. Amen brother. In Acts 2 we see the example that led thousands to repentance and it was the the truth- the full truth that pierced their hearts. The Word is enough. The gospel is enough. Jesus is enough. This lack of reverence for the Lord is sad and scary because of the level of influence that they have.
The Father sent His Son to save us from.... Himself? That's not very Biblical. Yes, ministers can get creative in how they package theology in order to be relevant, in the same way Christ used parables, even if we may not like their more modern examples. For your definition, however, we need to be clear on what God's wrath is. The wages of sin is death. It is the same death Christ experienced on the cross. He didn't die from loss of blood, either. He experienced the wrath of God. And God's wrath is eternal separation from those who choose to no longer remain-"they are like a branch that withers away" (John 15:6). "They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power" (2 Thes. 1:9). And eternal destruction is not eternal destroying, because that too isn't biblical. Both root and branch are ultimately no more (Malachi 4:1).
@@jongrand we are literally saved from the wrath of God. The "cup" mentioned by Jesus when He prayed to the Father is the wrath of God. In the OT the Cup is a reference to thw wrath of God. Jesus literally saved us from God's own wrath because His wrath os the consequences of our sin. It's 100% biblical
We’re not saved from ourselves. We’re saved from the wrath of God - refer to the bible verses: Romans 5:9, 1 Thess 1:10, John 3:36. We’re saved from God and to God.
THANK YOU!
Yes!!! He said a whole lot of nothing with his answer. You can’t use the words “wrath of God” or “hell” you need to tickle peoples ears and make them happy and give them what they want to hear
@Lee Higginbotham if you lead people astray to help them understand then you're not capable to teach yet.
@Lee Higginbotham Maybe you and Smith are smarter than I am, but I did not get what he was saying
They love to hear themselves talk.
Paul, Augustine, Luther, Calvin, Spurgeon, Lewis…and now this. The understanding of the absolute majesty and depth of the gospel is lost on this panel. How many of these men would suffer and die for this gospel? Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
This is not untrue, but I want to hear what caused you to come to this conclusion.
I'm thankful to hear it said that "faith to believe is a gift from God". Not very many Christian's today want to except that truth of Scripture.
Rich and the Dr. Held this together. Man everybody else tho. I think it’s time to get back in the Word and let it wreck you and change you.
Love the spirit in which this was put on by rich. And also really love the attempts to clean up some of the confusing responses that were given. It would have been better if it was just rich and the theologian. But in a way it still was useful because it exposed some not super serious thinkers in this space. But again, shout out to Rich for what seems like a serious attempt to even be theologically literate in his own right. That's such a blessing to see
I saw this panel and went straight to the comments. Confirmed all I need to know before even watching🤦🏾♂️
This crowd is so easily entertained. When did childhood Sunday school start to become the only theology that charismatics ever know. We need to start to level up and get back to the rigor that the church used to be known for before American/therapeutic Christianity became popular
Respect for putting this up Rich and emphasising on the importance of good theology . May God bless your enterprise
I say this respectfully and loving. This is not good theology. GOD saves you from hell. Sin is going against God's law .these should not be hard questions . This is basic theology. And these are seeker sensitive pastors. And then also on
women can not be pastors. 1 Timothy 2:12 . I would recommend people like Vodie Baucham, Justin peters, John McArthur. There is this great you tube channel Called fight for the truth 💫
What are we saved from? … God’s Wrath!
Yep, and Judah Smith didn't come close to it. Then the idea of what sin is turned into a Ted talk about evangelizing by telling people their life will be better with Jesus (avoidance of sin language). Prosperity language avoids the use of sin and wrath 🥴
Amen. In the end, God's Holy wrath is far more terrifying than myself.
How did they miss this? Eternal damnation.
I am a ransom atonement theory guy myself (Chronicles of Narnia allegory). Jesus defeated all evil, bought us BACK from death itself.
I just don’t subscribe to the angry God theology - I don’t believe God was satisfied by punishing Jesus - I don’t see God sitting in heaven just NEEDING to punish someone. I disagree with that framing.
@@brysondunn238 I can see where you're coming from. I don't think God's wrath means that God can't sit tight in heaven and just NEEDS to punish someone. He's wrathful because he's a just God- punishing evil and sinners. I believe God is a HAPPY God and at no point in history is He worried or panicked. Because our righteous deeds are "filthy rags", God sending His son Jesus to WILLINGLY take on His wrath is LOVE.
Dr. Allen Tennison used to be a pastor at my church I loved hearing him teach
Dr. Allen Tennison was on fire!
I had Dr. Tennison as a professor at North Central. Dude is a legend! So cool he's on this panel!
Goodness , is this where Christianity is!!! Salvation is off, we are not saved from ourselves , this is not what Acts had in
Mind for the future of Christianity at all.
I liked a lot of things that they said, but I have to reiterate what others have commented:
We’re saved from bondage to sin (which I think they covered using other terms), but we’re also saved from the wrath of God against sin. Without Christ we stand alone before God in our sin and suffer its just punishment. With Christ, we stand before God with the righteousness that Christ has given us resulting everlasting peace and joy in the presence of God.
Eh…the real ones know what’s up. This ain’t it
This was really sad although it seems like Rich is trying to improve his church’s biblical literacy, which is encouraging. Although it’s difficult to teach biblical literacy from a panel of biblically illiterate teachers. I really wish Dr. Tennyson would have analyzed the panelists’ answers and showed the audience that they shouldn’t be clapping for the things they were hearing.
Im at the 8:00 mark and no one has given a biblical definition of what we are saved from
No mention of eternal hell?
The truthful topic of Hell doesn’t fill arenas and pay for rockstar lifestyles and clothing. 🙄
Oh boy. This is a mess. A lot of misguided half-truths about the gospel of Christ. If there is anyone that is learning about Jesus through these speakers, please read the Bible IN ITS ENTIRETY for yourself. The Holy Spirit will lead you into ALL truth. This ain’t it.
AMEN!!!!
Judah’s first response was pretty cringe worthy. Reminded me of a reaction by a teen at youth group that goes a lot but doesn’t actually read the Bible. Basically me at 15 years old. I recognize it because I too used to humor and blabber my way through an answer without having a legit answer. Just a bunch of common church words.
These are “leaders”. Sad.
Why do these pastors put so much effort to look "hip"? This looks like a reality TV show...
They probably just enjoy wearing clothes like this. I enjoy fashion, it’s almost a hobby. So it’s not really an ‘effort’ it’s just an overflow of my natural interests.
Jesus wore everyday clothes like everyone else when He taught. The Pharisees had their garments just like suits today. Do you want these pastors in suits, covered up, and being stuck up? I will say Judah’s shorts are a little short but I mean, they preaching the word and they’re dressed normal but nothing outrageous.
@@IkeyP58 I think its deeper than that. It shows a level of importance of self and vanity. Makes me think of 1 peter "Your adornment should not be an external one: braiding the hair, wearing gold jewelry, or dressing in fine clothes,b
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but rather the hidden character of the heart, expressed in the imperishable beauty of a gentle and calm disposition, which is precious in the sight of God." I know this is about wives but it shows that your external apperance is not what God desires. Also its not just the religious elites like a pharasie, go to any Orthodox or Catholic (you know the 1st thousand years of christiantiy pre reformation) and all Preachers of the words always "dressed" up out of revererance and not to be "cool". Im just saying it rubs me personally the wrong way. Are you doing it to please God or man?
@wattsobx I agree with you. But you can’t judge their hearts because of what they’re wearing.
@@simeongrew agreed
Rich: Can you talk a little bit about sanctification?
Judah: Here's how you cook perfect rice. Step 1, wash the rice
Audience: Wow!!! C'mon now!
So sad
RC Sproul book: Saved From What
Simple read but deep theology and answers this question
Exactly. I made a comment here that if you want to hear a panel with real depth of biblical theological knowledge, look up the panels over the years from the ligonier conferences that Sproul held for so many years.
Is it just me as a Catholic, or do these people either not know what they're talking about, or are just making things up?
It's not just you. I'm a protestant and feel the same way
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Judah starts with a joke... because he doesn't have sound theology. He said a bunch of nothing. I clicked on this because I was surprised these names would have a "Classic Christianity conversation on Theology". Also, interesting that the only sound person's name is not in the title (Dr. Tennison).
I think Pastor Rich is sound too.
Same
Dr Tennision (the guy in the green hat), nailed it, when it talked about the importance of the Gospel. Kind of wish people in the comment section would stop grouping him in with Judah Smith and the rest of the panel that lacked understanding.
Amazed how much these guys Love themselves and the sound of their own voice and the way they look. Judah’s first response, as expected, was sadly man-centred. They simply should not have a platform until they go back to seminary, and learn how to carefully, thoughtfully and prayerfully exegete God’s Word. They’re trivialising and watering down the effects of sin on humanity and the wrath and Sovereignty of God. Underpinning their entire thinking is a gospel of ‘me’, not Christ. Furtick, Osteen, Houston, Smith, Veich, all preach the same empty message. Every time I hear ‘lean in’ I see a red flag too.
"And the way they look". Do you love ad hominem attacks? Also, the problem here was Judah, who is clearly spritually weak and afraid to speak the truth. Meanwhile, people like the guy with the green hat nailed it, when it came to talking about the Gospel. Stop grouping everyone into the same category.
@@Stew91 well in that case, guy in the green hat et al, should be calling out/correcting Judah if that’s the case Justin, for not presenting the truth of the Gospel. They have a massive platform, massive responsibility. Sick and tired of seeing this type of thing where Christ is diminished and man elevated. It’s often subtle, as Jesus is injected into the convo. So no, I stand by my remarks. Christian s have become too afraid to both say the truth and even rebuke where necessary, as it get labeled ‘judging’. Nonsense. Call it when necessary.
@@edwarddebone402 Ok *Edward* , then please tell me how the guy in the green hat diminished Christ and elevated man. Judah was wrong and flawed, and then when the guy in the green hat took responsibility and spoke the truth when it was his turn to speak to get back on the mic. He called the truth of the gospel as it was and corrected the watered down version of Judah said prior.
Also, the guy in green is easily one of the most passionate speakers that I have seen *who does not* water down the gospel (beyond just this video). Moreover, the fact that you said, "lul - love the love the sound of their own voices *and the way they look* (making fun of their looks) , says enough about the way you are judging, *not* the fact that you are judging. I'm sick of people like you pointing the finger at those who do the right thing and then someone blaming them for "not speaking the truth" or "staying silent", (when if he was afraid, he would have danced around the gospel like Judah did) and making fun of how a person looks. Your argument is bullcrap. I stand by what I say, and you can also criticize someone *without* attacking their appearance, which isn't Christ-like. You have an issue with what I said? Take it up with the Word of God.
@@Stew91 Wow; you told off Edward good. Nice one. Also, I 100% agree with you.
To echo what a lot of the comments are saying Rich def seemed to have his heart in the right place for having this, But wow other than Rich and the Theologian there are some baby Christians when it comes to the word on that stage. Making the simplicity of the Gospel SO complicated by fluffing it up with their desire to make themselves look wise. I'm so encouraged to see other brothers and sisters posting their disappointment in the lack of biblical truth in this video as many believers now a day have seemed to overlook.
Last thought we need to stop being so focused on making the Gospel look cool to the world and be more focused on it being conveyed biblically accurate i.e The Truth
I won’t add even more negative comments to this comment section even if it is factual, but for actual bible based theology, this is a swing and a miss. There are so many resources for good theology that listening to motivational speakers isn’t necessary for learning it. I would recommend the panels over the last decade from Ligonier conferences.
THIS IS THE MESSAGE YOU NEED TO HEAR:
“From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, z “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Matthew 4:17
You’re not being saved from yourself but if you are saved, you’re being saved from God. Because all have fallen short of the glory of God and are at enmity with Him. However, if you repent and believe on the lord Jesus Christ you will have eternal life and peace with God. Do not believe in these false teaching for they lead to damnation.
BELIEVE IN THE GOSPEL OF GOD, which is Christ and Him crucified. Soli Deo Gloria
Why is theological education and biblical literacy a tool we use?
Theology is life! it is about digging the bible about what it means fo me to follow and obey Christ in the world we live today.
There is a lot of great truth here but there are things here to be concerned about. Where is the urgency for souls to be saved? Where is the pain that many people are going to reject the message and go to hell? Where is the urgency on the danger of sin? If I was a non-Christian watching this I’d be sitting back thinking I don’t need God as my savior, but more as a positive life coach.
People are hungry for the real bible. Some of these preachers will start to realise it soon
It’s absolutely astounding to me that these jesus hipsters can sit around and talk in clichés and catchphrases and captivate an entire stadium with this conversation. Meanwhile god does absolutely nothing and is absolutely quiet at all times, leaving the word to their own experiences. it’s just so funny to me
You expect God to speak for the foolishness of man all the time? Now THAT"s funny to me.
This is difficult to watch. “Soundbite sermons” that sound cute, funny, and profound to the biblically illiterate. I agree with other comments about Rich’s good intentions. Knowing Rich’s family ministry heritage, I am surprised he puts up with the theological inaccuracies throughout this panel discussion.
Yikes. Run.
This group of people would probably be the last people I would want to hear about theology from. They are all sadly shallow and led astray as to what the church model/presentation of the gospel should be.
Why are you grouping the guy in the green hat in with the rest of the group? He spoke way more truth than the others combined. Stop grouping the sheeps with the goats.
These people are kings and priests
Thank you for this. Bless.
I get the joking about not paying attention in Bible school or not having a super deep theological knowledge, but man that is not setting a good example for the church. If you just wanna be a Christian motivational speaker do it. Teachers ought to understand and know the Word and not be confounded by simple questions
Ruslan brought me here. This was painful to watch. This entire panel except Pastor Rich and the Dr. need to go do a deep dive into scripture again. This was extremely exposing and showed how far the church is getting away from the meat of the gospel. Praying for these Pastors to get back to the word of God and gain fresh revelation of His Word. Discernment is increasing in the bride of Christ and we're starting to see straight through and discern those that are truly walking in the revelation of who Jesus is and living it daily. Pastors aren't going to be able to hide behind their pulpits and popularity anymore.
A lot of words. No substance. This is not Christian in any sense.
If I could be completely transparent, I clicked this video so that I could have ammunition for why these preachers and teachers aren’t worth listening to… When I look in, I see fame, wealth, beauty, and relevance packaged up neatly into some hip, trending pastor who has more numerical following than the risen Lord they profess and teach of. And let’s be honest, no one really cares about my opinion or uncharitable view upon these men or women. But if I may, I just want to say how absolutely impressed, encouraged, and unequivocally edified this video was, and these pastors and teachers were for my heart, mind, and soul. The way in which the Gospel of Christ was so articulately, and yet understandably displayed, was such a beautiful example that I really have some growing to do in the area of charity and humility. Do I agree 100% with how everything was teased out? No. This is not, and should never be my aim, though. I came here to poke fun and raise my nose, and left on my knees before the one, true God who calls me “son.” I repent for my arrogance, and thank you for your faithfulness. Eager to watch more. Thank you.
Their constant attempt to avoid saying we are saved from the WRATH of God broke my heart.
This is so sad. They wanted to avoid orthodoxy and get their sound bites for IG so bad. I’m thankful Allen was there to at least clean up the mess
If anyone reads this…go listen to a man named John gerstner he’ll explain things better and not confuse you more like this panel has
Panel on theology😂😂😂😂😂
This entire panel is anointed, but especially the professor! I didn’t want to go back to college since I graduated, but I’ll be the first one in his class🤣💯🙌🏽
He taught at North Central where I graduated from. He’s was an amazing professor.
Dang girl, you beautiful
We are saved from ourselves? What happened to repentance towards God rather? Judah Smith oooooooooooooooooh man
What we are seeing here, folks, is what happens is the distinction between men and boys talking. I am a Reformed and baptistic pastor so I would have my disagreement with Dr. Tennison...but he brought light and heat to this panel while the other contributors (Pastor Rich excepted) brought barely a match...
just my two cents here, but I don't think this is Classical Christianity..
In agreement 59mmich.
They are talking about theology and have a women pastor? That right there says something about their shakey theology.
He opens up and says if we don't know the bible you can't teach it.
Well the plank in the eye is being overlooked.
We need to pray for them for sure. They can't even answer what we are saved from.
We are being saved from God .
I’m a pastor in Japan and this hyped me up !!!!! Wow. This was great .
They’re talking so much word salad… welcome to the self help gospel seeker sensitive church
The guy in the green hat killed it though, when it came to discussing the importance of the Gospel. The problem here was Judah, who seems to be a lot spiritually weaker than other people on the panel.
@@Stew91 yeah, green hat was pretty spot on
Romans 1 wrath is not the cause but the consequence of the problem = idolatry. Three times Paul says wrath is being handed over to the consequence of putting creation over creator.
Paul therefore goes on to declare that salvation does more to save us from wrath (the consequence) but to change me from the inside out (the cause). His power takes me from slave to sin to instrument of righteousness.
So isn’t “saved from self” as good or potentially a better answer than “wrath” to “saved from what?” The full work of salvation is not just get me out of hell, it makes me a new creation. Not just to fix the “wrath problem” but to fix the “idol problem”.
Well this would be true if the problem of idolatry is conveyed through the clip. Sadly while idolatry is a bondage to self it is a worship problem... which means the sinfulness of sin is rooted in the holiness and worth of God. But that is not clear destination the clip seems to bring most of its audience.
I think the reason you are able to point it towards idolatry is the influence of scripture and biblically sound preachers, i suppose. But Judah Smith's bent is on a false distinction between law and grace living that is derived from antinomian teachers like Joseph Prince. Thus the frequent echo of emphasizing the problem of mentioning the practice of the believer... not seeing that the practice proves one's profession and is an important fruit in Paul's writings as well.
This was painful to watch . Why did the kid in the “I met Jesus” shirt called her stupid after she spoke on min 32:20? And she stayed quite 😒😒😒😒😒
READ YOUR BIBLE !
rule of thumb, when a panel has a man in short-shorts answering, there is no serious theological content.
12 minutes in and this is painful and I can't finish watching.
Blue hat is there in shorts, (first red flag-there's a suitable place for wearing shorts and it's not up on the pulpit), he's kicking his legs up and down, speaking in circles about being saved from ourselves? -and the panel nods and claps!
I'm sorry, this is unfortunate 🙏🏾
If you don’t understand the Word of God… end of discussion.
i needed to hear all this! thank you!
Stunning. I wrote down so many beautiful and living giving things. Thank you for great and healthy theology.
When Judah Smith opens his mouth, I have to stop the video. Just being honest
Calling real people “characters” shows that one doesn’t believe in the people of the Bible (actual history).
Judah made a bunch of random claims about nothing of substance while using as many crafty, depthless words imaginable. “Jesus wants to save you…” and says “nobody wants that.”
Absurdity and a mockery of our savior.
The real question is. Why are Judah’s legs so shiny? 😂
Salvation - a path cleared in a burning building which provides you 👉🏽OPPORTUNITY👈🏽 to 👉🏽GET UP AND WALK👈🏽 out of the building before you burn up with it… 😐
It’s not a License to burn up in a burning building just because you see a path cleared!!!
That’s not how Christ works!!! “You will go on to DO GREATER THINGS!!!!”
“All men will be judged according to 👉🏽THEIR WORKS👈🏽” NOT THEIR BELIEFS!!!!
If you believe in Christ you will attempt to walk as he walked!!! Not celebrate him doing everything so you don’t have to do anything that is not scriptural!!!! Saved from real time death penalty!? YES!!!
Saved from the second death by way of God’s judgement!? NO!!!! YOUR WORKS DETERMINE THIS AS A RESULT OF YOU USING SALVATION AS YOUR STARTING LINE!!!
Salvation is NOT A FINISH-LINE!!! It is the starting line by which all things in the state of our world through the blood of Christ 👉🏽Can 👈🏽 be built!!!
Are you doing the work AFTER salvation or simply focused on the fact that salvation has been offered!?
That’s like sitting in a burning building in celebrating the fact that Christ cleared a path until you burn up having never got up and walked out of it!
Classic Christianity = Catholicism
I don't think I like Judah Smith's answer to that 1st question... Ironic they're talking about theology... Saved from ourselves??? I honestly think that is the furthest thing from what the bible says... God created us. We are His creation.... We are saved from SIN. Not "our sin" because sin isn't ours. Sin is sin.... Saved from hell. That is a reality. I am mind boggled.
The girl had the most unbiblical answers
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Need to really dive in on good, real theology. This ain’t it. The professor was spot on. I don’t know what the rest where doing there. And sorry but Judah is not a preacher nor a pastor and is in need of serious help.
Yep - this is why I’m converting to Catholicism. The shallow, relativist, me-centric theology from virtually all of these pastors is reckless & is leading people to hell. Open up scripture, humble yourselves, and do better.
Can you please explain how the guy in green hat is leading people to hell, when he was the only one to speak the truth there? Also, if you're leaving Christianity because of some people who set bad examples of what a Christian should be, than that says more about you.
@@Stew91 Not leaving Christianity. Moving towards the OG Christianity.
Prot rot is real
Biblically and theologically speaking, that woman shouldn’t have been allowed to speak such ridiculous unbiblical nonsense. Less motivational self help and more bible.
Panel of false teachers.
Man these people look ridiculous. Making the Gospel a gimmick and sales pitch dressing like that. How is someone supposed to take you seriously that you take the Gospel seriously when you look the fads of the world, which glorify novelty
From ourselves?! Come on…🤣🤦♂️
Judah saved from the wrath of God chum, should of stayed in bible college or read your Bible
These people are "Pastors"?? My 8 year old knows what we are saved from. What is happening to the church??
Pᵣₒmₒˢᵐ 👍
These folks are not qualified to be answering these questions
Whooooooo, some serious cringe on some of these answers.
( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )
Quran 2:62
'' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )
Quran 22:40
[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?
( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )
Quran 5 48
''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions
Islam mean "submission" to God
( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )
Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?
Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.
Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )
The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds )
God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.
( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )
Quran 5:5
''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''
Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.
Question to Muslim and Christian:
Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?
And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?
Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?
Quran 5:48
'' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise )
On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.
'' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
'' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
The Gospel:
Plain and
Simple
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your
minds should be corrupted from the simplicity
that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3
Ask someone today if they are saved and
you will most likely hear responses like these:
“I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I
have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been
baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good
and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-termine whether or not a person actually
knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what
the gospel is and has left a devastating effect
of people not knowing what it is that they are
saved from nor how they are saved; which
leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation.
Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church
sounding phrases that do not communicate
anything. But rather present God’s word with
clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel:
plain and simple.
Sin was passed upon all men by one man
Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin
(Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of
condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of
this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good
works one might do we are still found sinners
in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found
righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even
one law we are found guilty.
It is for this reason of not being able to
create our own righteousness and being born
in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus
3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in
the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross
2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath
and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial,
and resurrection on our behalf that we are
able to have peace with God and forgiveness
of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good
news is unto all but only those that believe in
it are made righteous in Christ (Romans
3:22).
It is then after we have heard this good
news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit
and we are now part of Christ’s body the
church (Eph 1:13)
There is nothing that we need to do, no
good works that are required, and no bad
works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39).
Faith and belief in this information from
God’s word is the gospel.
The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your
heart. The gospel is not making him lord of
your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not
being baptized with water.
So next time someone asks you if you are
saved. Give them the clear assured answer
“Yes! And let me tell you why
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