@@hawken796 AND? why is everybody acting like these players are completely clueless to the shit when they go in? What exactly do y’all think all these tens of millions of dollars are for anyway? The value of the contract includes the fact that the shelf life of the body is being reduced. If you want a nice long and healthy life without aches and pains, u can do that - but u gonna have to chill down here with the plebes. STOP GD CRYIN Never ceases to amaze me how many broke people go to bat for rich douchebags that wouldn’t even wipe the shit from their feet on their clothes because they’re too poor to sully their footwear.
@@hawken796 no, it’s not. I’m sure the players enjoy you rooting for them to take it easy though. The sport itself reduces the longevity of players, just like every other sport. Players have the ability to manage the impact through particular conditioning and endurance training, but these players of today choose not to do such things. That’s fine, but the crying needs to stop It’s the same game, but even EASIER and less physical than it’s ever been, and the money is coo-koo. These players do not require the plebes to state their case - they have plenty of money to get professionals to do that for them
@@NightRogue77how does playing through injuries NOT reduce player longevity? Playing basketball for them is the given, playing while hurt only exacerbates issues... Your making minor conditions *major* ones
They have the best nutritionists, trainers, and doctors in the entire world. I am sick of people making excuses for them. If roofers working in the summer can make it 5 days a week to work these multi multi millionaires can do it too.
The fact is is that the wear and tear of these guys body is crazy because they are playing way more basketball games than they are practicing at youth and at some point in time that wear and tear on the human body catches up to you; also the specialization of playing a single sport absolutely wrecks the human body edit: science has also proven that kids who plays single sport or more prone to an injury in their sport plus this is why Europeans actually stay more healthy than Americans is because they practice more and they’re actually forced to do other activities besides their sport as they’re growing up to their body plus the food today doesn’t have enough fiber to make up for the loss in the deficiencies within their body too
@@NightRogue77 no that was not my point at all. It’s just to understand what happens to the human body when you specialize in a single sport that’s why certain players are more print entries than others because the guys who do multiple sports and don’t specialize, usually are less likely to be injured than guys who do specialize edit: human body is not meant to just do a single repetitive man actions. It’s meant to do a diversity of actions to bounce out the body.
@@justtimes9257I think USA Sports vs European sports is, player fans vs team fans. American sports are superstar oriented. Individual talents like, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Stephen curry, and so on never exist without these pressures.
saw the title and got 10 min in before I realized how few views and comments this has. wasn't bored the entire time at all and I can't remember how i found you, but you felt familiar. keep posting content man I love this kind of stuff.
not sure if you know but this is also his secondary channel for more "casual", "short(er)" form stuff that (from what I've consumed) is more off the cuff or rather more laid back. main channel is @tooforwon
imo load management makes these athletes weaker. i also doubt how much work they really put towards their conditioning. by the things i've seen and heard, many guys are more interested in partying and playing video games than training. sitting out games hurts your conditioning, and your body can't get used to the stress. you cannot tell me that playing a 48 minute basketball game every other day is more taxing on the body than working at a warehouse, factory, or construction site for 7+ hours at a time. and the people who do that aren't considered to be super athletes. the game isn't even as physical as it once was. the difference is that after a while, your body gets used to the labor, and the necessity of the work makes you push through discomfort. these guys get paid so much money, the need to play isn't there. these dudes sit out for soreness, not even real injuries. so yeah, man, i think these dudes are just soft millionaire frat kids who don't want to play if they don't have to.
Kawhi’s load management drove me crazy as a raptors fan but in hindsight that mightve been the reason we won the championship that year which is crazy to think beyond the warriors injuries
I remember someone was saying it was because nba players used cable machines instead of free weights Like the kind of heavy weights your lifting actually change the effect. 100lbs is 100lbs, lol
Kobe 100% paid attention to other sports Saw the premier League, saw eurobasket, saw their 34 games in a season, how every win and a loss and a draw matters Imagine if basketball (and hockey, and baseball) was a game a week... Man the quality of games we'd get as fans, given a *full week* to devise tactics and strategies while.players get the rest they need
this entire load management thing has caused the athletes to collapse. The entire regular season they were doing so well only for them to get injured in the last couple of games to miss playoffs is definitely some unfortunate chain of events
I think the extra basketball is why everybody is much more talented than back then….im sure if aau and smaller leagues get “banned” the talent will decrease but yea the injuries will go down as well
on the point about the Olympics.... make a simple count: How many players of the US's announced Olympic Roster made it to the PlayOffs and, if so, out of the First Round? (Spoilers) not that many ;)..
I think 68 would do great. You play against every NBA team twice (58 games), and play against your division (8 games), plus 2 possible play-in match-ups. That would lower the decrease in revenue and take a bit of the wear and tear on the athletes
and on the issue of scheduling and load management etc... just make the regular season stretch over two or three additional weeks.. makes way more sense than than the 65 game rule.. especially since the 65 game rule ties to regular season awards that, ultimately, determine contract opportunities.. all that does is devalue the PlayOffs as said contract opportunities are almost exclusively tied to regular season performance.. not to mention of course the injury issue discussed in the video at hand.. I've said it before: I'd rather have Kawhi for the 52 games I need to win to make the PlayOffs and bench/rest him for the remainder of the regular season.. so that I have my Kawhi fir for the PlayOffs.. rather than have him go 72 games because "the fans want to see him" but then he's injured in the PO and I go down in the 1st Round...
Reduving the length of the season won't help cause the injuries are wear and tear ,these players Been putting their bodies through immense training since they were kids ,The body can only take so much ...players in previous eras didn't spend as much time training as the kids today do
this is a terrible take - I’m sorry but this is about to become a bit of a kerfuffle… (And btw the perpetration of this idea that the players of today play harder or are more physical or whatever, then those of the past, has been long since debunked.). Sure the NBA can do a couple of things to lessen the impact of a grueling schedule, but the bottom line is these players aren’t conditioned for endurance like old school players. They are conditioned for power, and that is a choice that they MAKE, consciously. Those trainers know what they are doing. And they are using the results of that, to try to blame on other things so that they can do less work for their tens of millions of dollars. Well I ain’t buying it. Tone down some of those muscles and get a bit leaner, and those injuries will be mitigated to a HUGE degree. But should you choose to play for power versus endurance, fine but STFU and deal with the consequences of your choices. And I hate to break it to you but what Kobe said doesn’t invalidate a single thing I’ve said. Both things can be influential, but JFC man I mean we understand enough about the human body to where we shouldn’t be so confused about this because I’m not…. Bro look at how HEAVY these players are today! Muscles are heavy my dude; this is actually a very simple matter. I mean JFC these guys will talk about a draft pick and how teams are concerned because of their weight their size etc. and whether or not they are going to injury prone, but then we’re all scratching our heads at why these giant sized human beings keep getting injured when they slam 230+ into the ground over and over again lol come on what are we talking about here?? It should also be noted that NONE of these “superstars” have elected to attempt to change THEIR routines - THEIR training habits, and the things THEY DO, to improve things - nope, their effort starts AND stops at “load maintenance”, ie “less work”. Bruh y’all KNEW WHAT IT WAS B4 U GOT IN - stop cryin. GET LEANER and meaner, and lose some weight if you want to have longevity, ‘nuff said.
@@Quentinthemudkip no that too no doubt, to a degree - people should be mindful that their bodies are still growing and forming and not be putting the incredible strain they put on them as they do nowadays - and it’s infuriating because so many do it as a means to escape poverty, but I would think that this simply exacerbates the issue. Now you have a body that already has excessive wear and tear, and then in order to dominate at pro level, these trainers have these athletes hulking up…. Do recall that in the old days players used to beat the crap out of each other, legally, in the nba. Yet longevity endured more so than today. Ultimately I am of the opinion that even if you had a player who wore themselves out as a teenager, as long as they aren’t towing around 230+, they shouldn’t be TOO frail. It’s basic common sense you can’t have it both ways - you either mold your body for endurance or strength, or go the middle all-around route i guess, but I really do feel there are far too many athletes that are trying to “out-athlete’ The competition, versus beating them with a finely honed skill and talent.
Injuries are the biggest struggle that the NBA faces from a competition AND entertainment standpoint. Theyre so infuriating
This is why Luka is a dawg, most wouldn't play through nagging injuries
This dawg behaviour is what reduces the longetivity of players
@@hawken796 AND? why is everybody acting like these players are completely clueless to the shit when they go in? What exactly do y’all think all these tens of millions of dollars are for anyway? The value of the contract includes the fact that the shelf life of the body is being reduced.
If you want a nice long and healthy life without aches and pains, u can do that - but u gonna have to chill down here with the plebes. STOP GD CRYIN
Never ceases to amaze me how many broke people go to bat for rich douchebags that wouldn’t even wipe the shit from their feet on their clothes because they’re too poor to sully their footwear.
that’s how people make their injuries worse, and you get players out for seasons. stupid mindset
@@hawken796 no, it’s not. I’m sure the players enjoy you rooting for them to take it easy though.
The sport itself reduces the longevity of players, just like every other sport. Players have the ability to manage the impact through particular conditioning and endurance training, but these players of today choose not to do such things. That’s fine, but the crying needs to stop
It’s the same game, but even EASIER and less physical than it’s ever been, and the money is coo-koo. These players do not require the plebes to state their case - they have plenty of money to get professionals to do that for them
@@NightRogue77how does playing through injuries NOT reduce player longevity?
Playing basketball for them is the given, playing while hurt only exacerbates issues...
Your making minor conditions *major* ones
They have the best nutritionists, trainers, and doctors in the entire world. I am sick of people making excuses for them. If roofers working in the summer can make it 5 days a week to work these multi multi millionaires can do it too.
The fact is is that the wear and tear of these guys body is crazy because they are playing way more basketball games than they are practicing at youth and at some point in time that wear and tear on the human body catches up to you; also the specialization of playing a single sport absolutely wrecks the human body
edit: science has also proven that kids who plays single sport or more prone to an injury in their sport plus this is why Europeans actually stay more healthy than Americans is because they practice more and they’re actually forced to do other activities besides their sport as they’re growing up to their body
plus the food today doesn’t have enough fiber to make up for the loss in the deficiencies within their body too
The fact is they don’t HAVE TO PLAY y’all act like they got guns to heads out there
@@NightRogue77 no that was not my point at all. It’s just to understand what happens to the human body when you specialize in a single sport that’s why certain players are more print entries than others because the guys who do multiple sports and don’t specialize, usually are less likely to be injured than guys who do specialize
edit: human body is not meant to just do a single repetitive man actions. It’s meant to do a diversity of actions to bounce out the body.
@@justtimes9257I think USA Sports vs European sports is, player fans vs team fans. American sports are superstar oriented. Individual talents like, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Stephen curry, and so on never exist without these pressures.
saw the title and got 10 min in before I realized how few views and comments this has. wasn't bored the entire time at all and I can't remember how i found you, but you felt familiar. keep posting content man I love this kind of stuff.
not sure if you know but this is also his secondary channel for more "casual", "short(er)" form stuff that (from what I've consumed) is more off the cuff or rather more laid back.
main channel is @tooforwon
imo load management makes these athletes weaker. i also doubt how much work they really put towards their conditioning. by the things i've seen and heard, many guys are more interested in partying and playing video games than training. sitting out games hurts your conditioning, and your body can't get used to the stress. you cannot tell me that playing a 48 minute basketball game every other day is more taxing on the body than working at a warehouse, factory, or construction site for 7+ hours at a time. and the people who do that aren't considered to be super athletes. the game isn't even as physical as it once was. the difference is that after a while, your body gets used to the labor, and the necessity of the work makes you push through discomfort. these guys get paid so much money, the need to play isn't there. these dudes sit out for soreness, not even real injuries. so yeah, man, i think these dudes are just soft millionaire frat kids who don't want to play if they don't have to.
Kawhi’s load management drove me crazy as a raptors fan but in hindsight that mightve been the reason we won the championship that year which is crazy to think beyond the warriors injuries
The timing on this video is scary
I remember someone was saying it was because nba players used cable machines instead of free weights
Like the kind of heavy weights your lifting actually change the effect.
100lbs is 100lbs, lol
Kobe 100% paid attention to other sports
Saw the premier League, saw eurobasket, saw their 34 games in a season, how every win and a loss and a draw matters
Imagine if basketball (and hockey, and baseball) was a game a week... Man the quality of games we'd get as fans, given a *full week* to devise tactics and strategies while.players get the rest they need
@@FF18Cloud the billionaires that own the teams will never allow for that
this entire load management thing has caused the athletes to collapse. The entire regular season they were doing so well only for them to get injured in the last couple of games to miss playoffs is definitely some unfortunate chain of events
Its the flopping
I think the extra basketball is why everybody is much more talented than back then….im sure if aau and smaller leagues get “banned” the talent will decrease but yea the injuries will go down as well
I just love 💕 this guy, hes so cynical, honest 🤓💡⚡ and funny 🤣 asl Chicago Illinois loves this content 😎
“I’m the man I’m the man I’m the man.” 😭 wallah I’m cryers
on the point about the Olympics....
make a simple count:
How many players of the US's announced Olympic Roster made it to the PlayOffs and, if so, out of the First Round?
(Spoilers)
not that many ;)..
If the season was 62 games long people would lose money but gain health and sustain their bodies more so wtf they crying for the bag
I think 68 would do great. You play against every NBA team twice (58 games), and play against your division (8 games), plus 2 possible play-in match-ups. That would lower the decrease in revenue and take a bit of the wear and tear on the athletes
Lol. The NBA used to be way more physical back in the day. Stop capping.
Ask player can short season but less money or more money with long season?100% wanna long season..just admit this era is soft .
Soft as butter.
If they do shorten the season are the players going to want to take less money? No? Ok why even talk about it.
Agree...the player wants big money but complain to work ( must play more 65 game)
and on the issue of scheduling and load management etc...
just make the regular season stretch over two or three additional weeks.. makes way more sense than than the 65 game rule.. especially since the 65 game rule ties to regular season awards that, ultimately, determine contract opportunities..
all that does is devalue the PlayOffs as said contract opportunities are almost exclusively tied to regular season performance.. not to mention of course the injury issue discussed in the video at hand..
I've said it before:
I'd rather have Kawhi for the 52 games I need to win to make the PlayOffs and bench/rest him for the remainder of the regular season.. so that I have my Kawhi fir for the PlayOffs..
rather than have him go 72 games because "the fans want to see him" but then he's injured in the PO and I go down in the 1st Round...
Knicks with ANOTHER injury cause why not
Celtics easy path to finals
Reduving the length of the season won't help cause the injuries are wear and tear ,these players Been putting their bodies through immense training since they were kids ,The body can only take so much ...players in previous eras didn't spend as much time training as the kids today do
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A lot of players are ferraris nowadays. Players back then were path finders. Players now are hyper athletic but arent built for long term
this is a terrible take - I’m sorry but this is about to become a bit of a kerfuffle… (And btw the perpetration of this idea that the players of today play harder or are more physical or whatever, then those of the past, has been long since debunked.). Sure the NBA can do a couple of things to lessen the impact of a grueling schedule, but the bottom line is these players aren’t conditioned for endurance like old school players. They are conditioned for power, and that is a choice that they MAKE, consciously. Those trainers know what they are doing. And they are using the results of that, to try to blame on other things so that they can do less work for their tens of millions of dollars.
Well I ain’t buying it. Tone down some of those muscles and get a bit leaner, and those injuries will be mitigated to a HUGE degree. But should you choose to play for power versus endurance, fine but STFU and deal with the consequences of your choices.
And I hate to break it to you but what Kobe said doesn’t invalidate a single thing I’ve said. Both things can be influential, but JFC man I mean we understand enough about the human body to where we shouldn’t be so confused about this because I’m not…. Bro look at how HEAVY these players are today! Muscles are heavy my dude; this is actually a very simple matter. I mean JFC these guys will talk about a draft pick and how teams are concerned because of their weight their size etc. and whether or not they are going to injury prone, but then we’re all scratching our heads at why these giant sized human beings keep getting injured when they slam 230+ into the ground over and over again lol come on what are we talking about here??
It should also be noted that NONE of these “superstars” have elected to attempt to change THEIR routines - THEIR training habits, and the things THEY DO, to improve things - nope, their effort starts AND stops at “load maintenance”, ie “less work”. Bruh y’all KNEW WHAT IT WAS B4 U GOT IN - stop cryin. GET LEANER and meaner, and lose some weight if you want to have longevity, ‘nuff said.
I don’t think it’s just that but as well as training so much when they’re younger causing them to have so much more wear and tear
@@Quentinthemudkip^^^ this is the real cause
@@Quentinthemudkip no that too no doubt, to a degree - people should be mindful that their bodies are still growing and forming and not be putting the incredible strain they put on them as they do nowadays - and it’s infuriating because so many do it as a means to escape poverty, but I would think that this simply exacerbates the issue. Now you have a body that already has excessive wear and tear, and then in order to dominate at pro level, these trainers have these athletes hulking up…. Do recall that in the old days players used to beat the crap out of each other, legally, in the nba. Yet longevity endured more so than today.
Ultimately I am of the opinion that even if you had a player who wore themselves out as a teenager, as long as they aren’t towing around 230+, they shouldn’t be TOO frail. It’s basic common sense you can’t have it both ways - you either mold your body for endurance or strength, or go the middle all-around route i guess, but I really do feel there are far too many athletes that are trying to “out-athlete’ The competition, versus beating them with a finely honed skill and talent.
@@NightRogue77Reminds me of how Tim Duncan reduced his weight during his latter years to be leaner and it helped his longevity.