Addendum Section: 1. Guys... I found a new tape in my collection 😱: twitter.com/saganhawkes/status/1483236529073897472 2. Technically not wrong, I just didn't touch on it for time's sake, but I think its worth mentioning. After Jay watches the tape that Tim was hiding from him, we later learn his first reaction wasn't to go and attack Tim. He gets lost in Rosswood Park and calls Tim to apologize, and wants to continue working together. He's attacked by the Operator, and seems to go through some sort of personality change from here. I feel like its similar to what happened to Alex, slowly making their behavior more violent. You can see this in Entry #82. 3. Apparently there's some pretty serious accusations around the creator of TribeTwelve, so I'd recommend taking those into consideration when looking at other Slenderverse creations: www.reddit.com/r/TribeTwelve/comments/is0avp/tribetwelveadam_rosner_accusations_everything_so/ To be clear, this has nothing to do with the creators of Marble Hornets, TribeTwelve and its creator are completely and totally separate.
I was wondering if you were going to mention that. TribeTwelve has been a personal favorite of mine for years out of the big three, so the reality of the situation with its creator is absolutely soul crushing. Its awful. I will continue to enjoy the series for what it was via Night Minds explained series on it but due to how Adam grossly misused his fame and power, its for the best that the series has been cancelled.
Wow I actually didn't know about the accusations surrounding Adam. I've been FB friends with Troy, Tim, and Joseph since the beginning of season 2. I've had quite a few conversations with them over the years and think they're all pretty cool guys. I've seen Adam in the comments a handful of time, but never saw them react to him. I always thought it was a bit strange, but this might be why. However I might be overanalyzing because I'm not 100% sure how long these have been public knowledge and the creators don't post much at all anymore. Anyways I can't wait to watch this. I stumbled across it right before bed and can't watch it rn, but I definitely will soon. I really hope you took some details from Tim and Joseph's (separate) streams where they rewatched the series because they reveal quite a bit in them. Excited to check this out!
yeah, the creator of TribeTwelve done lots of shit. Acting creepy around the female extras for the series DarkHarvest00, openly talking about his animal fetish, his apparent vore fetish, making out with a 15 year old fan at a Con, grooming a couple underage fans, keeping NightMind from opening up about the situation, upon other things which haven't been proven(besides him grooming underage fans), but I wouldn't be suprised if they were true. this stuff was known for a while. He apparently was always creepy around female fans, and leaked messages were apparently leaked back in 2015. But no one wanted to believe it since he was such a "nice guy".
About the theory of Tim editing the Entry 76 footage, if you look at the positioning of the camera when Jessica is on the ground compared to when Tim walks in frame, it's actually a slightly different position. Idk if anyone pointed that out but I think it helps support the theory too.
It’s easy to forget how much of it was an actual straightforward narrative rather than just a bunch of screaming and running through the woods. While we’re all nostalgic for it, I think videos like this that look over what the story was are excellent, nice work dude.
@@ebitempurafry honestly I’ve been thinking about doing a thing like marble hornets but with momo 🤔. There’s a lot of potential with momo that the memes never tapped into!
@@Miriam_J_ yea that’s the issue😅 I’d love to expand on the story and make a killer story but the original creator of momo hates his creation and is very unlikely to give permission 😔
I never noticed that Alex setting fire to Tim's house was done completely practically. I just imagine Carl and Troy standing off to the side with fire egstinguishers ready to put that shit out.
I think Slenderman is creepier without tentacles. He seems more innocuous, more pedestrian. He's still ominous, but it leaves his actual nature to your imagination.
The fact that Marble Hornets started exactly 10 days after Slender Man was created has always impressed me. I found MH back in 2014 and it’s always been my favorite
The very early planning stage; them just writing the entire story on disorganized note cards and basing the name on two completely random and innocuous things; is the most chaotic neutral artistic process I've ever seen or heard.
@@theadministrator.6632 this comment feels like the teacher called on me, and I nervously looked through my empty notebook in complete silence until they felt bad enough to call on someone else.
Something I will never understand is why people use tabletop RPG terms and concepts in any conversation outside of the tabletop RPG context. Chaotic neutral? How is it chaotic neutral and how does the method for telling a story connect to RPG alignment?
My biggest takeaway from this video is that hoodie and masky were not in fact 16 year old skinny anime boys. I love looking into creepypasta content that I only learned through fanart on deviantart when I was twelve. But yeah great video like always, loving the vibe
Can you imagine my horror as a 17 year old girl in a frat house for the first time being shown Marble Hornets (literally right after it came out) with the framework that it was REAL, and then being told that it was filmed in THE SAME TOWN THAT I WAS CURRENTLY IN??!?! This totally influenced my love for horror and especially analog horror now, like 10 years later
i miss this era of youtube. i feel like ppl aren't taking advantage of this site for hosting indie/fan films like they used to, in middle school my entire subscriptions page was filled with web series now you rlly have to go digging to not find one that isn't years old
@@ralphjackson2518 ik it's just not what i thought it would be back when i was a kid. there are some huge triumphs like cryptv but not everyone reaches their heights
Sadly TH-cam has slowly been trying to kill off the "You" part and turn the site into mainsteam TV 2.0. Do to this the almighty algorithm favors big names and projects like this, which are a threat to the mainstream, get lost in the void of content.
I'm always so hesitant to watch anything talking about Marble Hornets since the series is so near and dear to my heart, but I'm actually not too afraid to watch this one
I’ve been a humongous fan of Marble Hornets for a few years, so when you said you were doing a retrospective on it I was thrilled to watch it! I found your channel from your FNAF retrospective, so seeing you cover MH is awesome
Your discussion at 44 minutes is so perfect. It’s so impressive what they were able to pull off. The shot where it pans to the operator with alex’s face in the corner and it barely gets hit with the flashlight is so scary and even more eerie with the context of the whole story.
I've always been of the opinion that the operator is not the entity, but rather a symptom of the sickness. Like a metaphysical rash, it manifests when the true entity, the sickness, grows too strong.
I’ve had this interpretation too, and it was dangerous for me. I didn’t know I was schizophrenic when I got into MH, but when it started to come on it was the perfect thing for my hallucinations/delusions to grab on to it. It’s a great story, handcrafted to be about supernatural mental illness, so it slotted in way too well.
I like the idea, but there's one thing that I feel like works against your theory, and that's the fact that the Operator appears on camera. Now, if the word "manifest" here meant that the Operator manifests itself physically from people having the sickness instead of just appearing in their minds, then I'd say you have a point. But what I've noticed is that people will sometimes start showing symptoms even if the Operator isn't visibly near. The opposite is also true; the Operator can appear even when nobody has shown symptoms yet. My personal theory is that the Operator is the cause of the sickness, and that he can force the symptoms upon people at will in order to weaken and eventually kill them, or have Alex kill them. There are several instances of characters seeing the Operator but not appearing to get sick, which leads me to believe that the Operator is a real entity with a real, physical form.
@@PremiumCheeses oh yes I did mean that the entity physically appears, I just meant that the operator is like a rash, the physical part of a otherwise invisible disease. It could be that trying to understand cause/effect is meaningless for things like the operator, he causes the sickness that causes him in a recursive loop with no start or end. Mystery is a big part of horror, so having questions we can never answer is a big tick in the Great horror box
I remember watching this many years ago, it really was something special for its time, nothing like it could be made again in today’s environment. Thanks so much for covering this!! It’s gonna be a hell of a nostalgia trip lol
I mean the back rooms TH-cam content hits very very close to the mark in my opinion. It felt like we have something as special and uniquely made as the MH series
I think that with the editing capabilities and video tech we have today something very much like this could be phenomenal. That being said, I do see what you’re saying as TH-cam is so uptight about censorship that it may be difficult to get pushed by the algorithm if your story is too violent or touches on serious themes
about two years ago, i watched this entire series with my brother off of the official dvd on an old ass laptop. genuinely such a great time. he loves this series to death. he visited some actual locations and everything. thanks for makin' this video!
😭Knowing the origin of Masky and Hoodie has cleansed my spirits and watered my crops. Being in the Creepypasta fandom I somehow never knew about Marble Hornets.😕
It's wild to me that people know OF masky and hoodie but not know where they came from. It's the opposite for me. I watched marble hornets and then basically didn't touch creepypastas or anything for years and had no idea how much the extended Slenderman/marble hornets character universe blew up!
As an og fan and reader of the comic continuation, I genuinely hope it doesn't end with "it was all a dream" or "it was just radioactive waste left behind in rosswood park". I hope it's an open ended conclusion that still alludes to the possibility of something cosmic or paranormal. I'd hate to have invested so much into this world that's obviously otherworldly to the real world idea that it was simply radiation poisoning.
It's has to be a cosmic explanation. The operator is so otherworldly in so many ways, and he acts very lovecraftian. Like, why does it have a suit and tie? Does it have a true form? Was it there before time itself? Did it wear a suit before business suits were invented? Can it teleport or manipulate anywhere in the universe? Are there any more entities related to the operator? (EverymanHybrid had another entity which was almost as powerful as slender man. But it's in a completely different slenderverse so I don't think so) Maybe the operator is just some crazy stuff the true thing (the cosmic disease) does to make the person crazy and spread itself A paranormal, or should I say, spiritual explanation wouldn't be so good. It just doesn't fit him. A religious entity? Meh. It was all a dream? Hell no.
This is an emotional ARG, not only with the themes but because it is literally so many people's ARG inspiration (including mine) but it also fueled analog horror as it is today. Without MH we wouldn't be where we are. Truly a culture shift in the internet's way of entertainment.
i genuinely love the comic. being introduced to the dudes making a documentary about rosswood literally made me feel like any reaction image of ben affleck smoking. every day a man with insurmountable hubris decides to become a film student, and it is a travesty lmao
I really appreciate explanation videos. I have a panic disorder that makes it impossible to watch/play most horror, but I love the stories told so these types of videos make it so I can feel involved.
I still go back and marathon Marble Hornets every year for the month of October. Slenderman may be seen as a dead meme, but Marble Hornets is a testament to how the monster can still be terrifying if done right.
does this guy always put this much dedication into the topics he covers⁉️ from mimicking the MH entry style, to watching slightly-obscure creator streams, to addressing specific topics like ARGs and slenderverse, it really is a meaningful examination of MH. honestly not used to "series EXPLAINED" videos having this much care put into them
Hiya! I know the creators/moderate online for Joe and Brian, and I can confirm that you're correct with the fact that they did not use stacks of flipflops for the operators height the whole time :) great video by the way!
Not having been involved in any of the fandom, I had no idea that the masked characters were referred to as "Hoodie" and "Masky". These nicknames makes them 1000% less scary and lame... I'm just glad I didn't find that out until after I watched everything!
As a kid, my cousins and i used to pretend we were looking for slenderman (or the operator) with the neighborhood kids outside at night. It was so fun chasing each other and roleplaying. Marble Hornets and Creepypasta have a special place in my heart 😊
You missed the moment in Season 3 episode 7 where alex farts into the camera. It might just seem like a filler moment but I think it's super important as a sign of how far this guy has fallen since the operator came into his life
So Alex in this story seems a lot less confusing if you see him as an accelerationist He doesn't see himself as helping the operator even though he obviously is. He thinks he's burning through the destruction as fast as possible on the assumption that something better will come when the ashes settle. He just has no plan for what that is or how he'll get it. He'd just rather burn everyone than try to survive.
this is how i see it too. hes taking a scorched earth approach, probably on the assumption theres no way to stop whatevers happening to everyone involved, and the only solution is to cut off the infection by destroying all the disease vectors
@@internettraveler8666it’s a little misinformed, the point would be to make it as worse as possible so it can can start getting better, like if you’ve got an infected wound, it’s better just to cut the wound open and squeeze the poison out, accelerating the harm from the wound but preventing further problems like gangrene, like if an animal has a contagious virus, you kill the animal as fast as possible to limit its ability to spread, the less people who are exposed to the operator the less people who can expose others to it.
I got into marble hornets as a kid living in small town Alabama feeling so isolated from everything I liked and knew, so learning it was filmed in Alabama makes it just that much more special for me
Same here, except I’m from the Greater Birmingham area. Once I learned it was filmed in Alabama, I started recognizing a lot of the landmarks and filming locations. Much of the footage, including that in the gazebo, are at Oak Mountain State Park.
I remember watching these as they first came out. Truly no words for how crazy and legendary it was. All Slenderman Unfiction projects really blew it out of the water back then.
watched some of the first season in 2011 when i was 10 and proceeded to spend the entire summer convinced every strange looking tree branch was slenderman and that every technical problem i had was being caused by him lmfao
Think about it. If we didn't have Marble Hornets, it's possible we would've never gotten any of the other horror series we all know today like Everymanhybrid, WhisperedFaith, Dark Harvest, and MLAnderson0, as well as analog horror series like The Walten Files, The Mandela Catalogue, and Gemini Home Entertainment. Thank you, MH, for existing.
I watched marble hornets back when I was around 11 years old, thats what got me into creepypasta and horror stuff in general, and yeah I was pretty young but I never really minded horror, it was more interesting to me, more fascinating rather than terryfying. Im going to be 17 now and marble hornets still means a lot to me, the way I can still remember the way I felt when watching it for the first time, wondering the whys and wheres, this video truly brought me back to that time. Thanks so much for making this video, and for reminding me of where my love for all horror related webseries, args and analogue horror stories come from
SH you are a fantastic little man and I absolutely adore how you edit your videos. You are not only well researched but you also have solid scripts that are masterfully presented. It's always a good time watching anything from you!
I never even heard about Marble Hornets, now im really excited to watch this (Edit) I know of slenderman but never knew about the origins and this series(Another edit) Holy crap man I had no clue this was filmed in my home town! And Ive seen that graffiti before! This is crazy
Oh man, you're in for a TREAT. I don't know how WELL it's aged, but definitely check out the series. It's really impressive what they did with no real budget.
This was honestly my obsession when I was in middle school, Masky was my favorite character and the entire series was so ahead of it’s time. Awesome video! Brings back so many memories
The use of the term "force of nature" to describe the Operator personally reminds me of, and this is a very odd comparison, Death from puss in boots 2. To the main cast, he's the antagonist of their story, but he's really just doing what he's supposed to be doing.
The Slenderverse, at least the early days of it, really set the whole indie horror/unfiction thing rolling on TH-cam. I'm sure there was some stuff before it, but this was the benchmark at which things really exploded from. Not only did it serve as the inspiration for much of the current analogue horror series, but it also led to the first Slender game, which was a landmark in terms of the "Man Screams At Jumpscare" aspect of horror gaming, which not only exposed more and more people to indie horror titles, but also allowed them to reach an audience that otherwise wouldn't have much access to horror games: Kids. I'd be interested in seeing coverage of Everyman HYBRID at some point, AFAIK a lot of people consider that one to be even better, Night Mind among them. That said... talking about TribeTwelve is difficult these days. There's no denying that it was a well-made entry in the Slenderverse, and it was somewhat intertwined with Everyman HYBRID and I think also Dark Harvest, distinctly more than any of the others were tied to Marble Hornets... buuuuuut one of the creators, Adam Rosner, got outed as a paedophile in 2020, as multiple victims were finally able to come forward and share their stories. r/tribetwelve has a masterpost surrounding the event here: www.reddit.com/r/TribeTwelve/comments/is0avp/tribetwelveadam_rosner_accusations_everything_so/
It's actually pretty easy to talk about tribetwelve, you just talk about it. Don't understand everyone's preoccupation with rejecting the story for the sins it's creator.
@@pokejeenios Yeah if people really wanted to reject any piece of media that was created by pedophiles, they would be up in arms over about 99% of everything they watch. 🤔
TribeTwelve was an INCREDIBLE take on the Slenderverse, and the vfx used was incredible for the medium and budget. The creator is not his creation, especially when we aren’t giving him money by watching what he made.
I'm always shocked no one brings up that there's someone in the Ark group who has a feminine figure and long hair who appears in one of the videos. They're clearly not any of the main cast, so I'm guessing they're one of these characters with no screen time that the creators talked about. I really wanna see people theorize more about them.
I believe you are referring to reused clips of Jessica. Deciphering a lot of the coded messages to me seems to reveal that totheark was quite cross with Tim for removing and hiding Jessica from the equation. totheark wished to amass a larger force capable of standing up to Alex. With Tim’s betrayal Jessica is gone and Jay is still ignorant of what exactly is going on.
The Marble Hornets series is something that brings a lot of nostalgia to me. It's so good and genuinely one of my favorite pieces of horror media of all time. It has a quality that feels genuine and oddly warm? Slenderman also has to be In his prime here.. It's nice to revisit it as the last time I thought about it was probably 2017.
i gotta say, in a world where so many horror stories present psych medication as suppressing one’s humanity or power, i really appreciate that this series seems to present tim’s psych meds as a way to combat fear, as an empowering tool
I think it's funny that when I was a little kid watching all of these videos, I didn't know anything about totheark. Marble hornets was really fantastic even without the connected videos
Eckva is still going on today, and ties into the MH universe pretty well, and is set up to explain what the pills actually do and the company behind it
Marble hornets meant so much to me while growing up, and now that I’m more mature I can just really see the art of the story telling. Thank you making this 💛💛 brought back a lot of my old joy
This made me remember an old creepypasta with images I really liked. It’s from like the early 2000s, it’s called “I Found a Digital Camera in the Woods” and the photos are very eerie.
SO damn excited to see someone talking about this amazing work again! Truly an indie horror internet darling! Edit: just finished the whole thing and it was fucking great. :) You did a great job picking apart one of my favorite indie horror series, and I was so happy to see you talk about the comics. They are great. I hope you will talk about them more in depth when they are completed. :)
Man...Marble Hornets. It feels like an ancient thing, like something that has always existed. It inspires creators in unimaginable ways...it inspires fear in us, too. The people who made Marble Hornets were (and are) geniuses.
Wow, I remember watching and trying to keep up with all the videos by in these series when they came out. I also had no idea they filmed it in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which is extremely close to where I live. So that's a amazing fact to learn.
Marble Hornets was my life for a while. One of the first major fandoms I was a part of. Yes, I do have a related tattoo. How did you know? Anyway, thanks for the in-depth run-through to bring me back to the good days.
Very well done, very spooky effects and you really nailed the vibe. This was WELL worth it. Keep up the awesome work, man. First came here for fnaf retrospectives but will definitely stay for the passion and attention to detail
Thank you for this video, I was a creepypasta tween back in the day and would always see the term "marble hornets" and proxy thrown around but I was too English-illiterate to fully grasp anything. (Plus my AdHd brain would've gotten frustrated trying to follow such a scattered narrative). It's nice being able to put together where Masky and Hoodie came from (and find out so much about Slendy himself)
Thanks so much for covering this, it was such a blast from the past! I remember the days of watching new videos when they released and the last few videos of S2 blew my little teen mind. So much nostalgia, it was a great fandom in the early days.
I have a ridiculously high horror tolerance but the one thing that gets me is something that isn’t even that scary compared to other things. Being chased. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I’m slow af and would never get away or if it just makes my fight or flight kick into gear. But the scene of the man in the mask starting to chase Jay gets me every time. Same with the entity in the backrooms (Kane Pixels’ version) chasing the cameraman, the fake person in Gemini home entertainment turning and running for Jack, and the mimic running after the girl in Vita Carnis.
I remember watching these as a child (who was probably way to young to be seeing this kind of stuff) and just loving it. I used to be terrified of the woods because I was convinced Slenderman was out there, watching… waiting…plotting. I recently went and watched the entirety of this series last Halloween and I gotta say, watching them back to back to back doesn’t hold up as well as it did back then. I don’t know if it’s just because I’m older and know that this is fake or because the series just… isn’t very good(??) but it certainly is propped up in my memory due mostly to nostalgia. Still a great watch though, better than most “horror” videos TH-camrs pump out nowadays.
Marble Hornets was formative in my love for horror as a kid. Crazy how long it's been since I've watched it. It's impressive for an indie horror channel.
Randomly was suggested your Hello Neighbor video by YT, and you have got me hooked Sagan. I watch a lot of NM, Nexpo, etc, and you have an amazing twist on the style, and I'm super excited to see where you go from here, my dude.
I followed and watched Marble Hornets as it was coming out and always recommended it to others to watch for an immersive horror experience. It was, at least for me, always just on the edge of being real, believable. The acting sometimes gave it away, but that's pretty much it. I was captivated by the story and the mystery of it, the locations they filmed in and the effects and interactions with other media (totheark and even some twitter posts). As a total fan of found footage horror, it's a staple for me right along with the Blair Witch Project. This video was awesome. I had forgotten a lot of what happened and as the posts became less frequent I lost track of the story at times so this was a great summary and retrospective. Thank you!
I cant just sit here and watch without commenting how absurd the quality of your videos is you put an insane amount of effort into these videos and they are the most entertaining gems of videos
Ok the fact that you actually made your own small tapes in between sections and legitimately gave me the eerie feeling of the original series that i love ( the mask in the reflection of the tv is so insanely creepy and i loved it btw ) if you were to make another small series like your fnaf three part series from before (don’t tire yourself with a video everyday though) i and many others would support and love it! you have a talent for making awesomely scary stuff, and we can’t wait for what you have in store
I really respect you supporting the creators by not talking too much about the comics for content and instead telling people to buy the comics themself. 👌
41:59 mental and physical heath are inherently tied, it doesn't have to be about one or the other. Slender sickness is a certainly chronic illness! (Just, sickness that lasts a _long_ time.) From personal experience, being sick all the time and forgetting things kinda fucks you up, it can make you irritable and paranoid. Mostly, I mean that this has to be abut _both._ This also fits the message of, continuing on despite struggles and despite past.
This was a great episode. I love your videos man, and as a big fan of MH myself, this just reminded me of times when I couldn’t wait til the next episode dropped. That feeling could never be replicated, but I will say, the edits you made in your sections of the video came pretty damn close to replicating that feeling. They were pretty spot on to how MH used to edit their videos, which isn’t seen often these days. Especially in the analogue horror series coming out these days. Nice one 👍🏻
OMG, my favourite horror series! Marble Hornets, man, those were the days. I often feel like it was one of the grandfathers of today's analogue horror/found footage stuff. Thanks for this!
This kind of dense, comprehensive but efficient overview was necessary for this series. Thank you. Subbed, and looking forward to everything else on this channel.
This was great. I watched nightminds take on this which inspired me to watch the series back in the day. Its great to see another take on it and also see where it headed. Thanks for the info on the comics, I'm gonna check it out. Keep up the good work!!!
I remember working as a Night Shift Social worker. While the clients were sleeping, my buddy and I watched all of Marble Hornets throughout the week. It made the week go by fast and gave us some stuff to talk about. I cannot forget those moments
Thank you for this! This is so comprehensive, I've always wanted to know what's up with Marble Hornets but the series itself and even Night Mind's (wonderful) videos on it are a bit dense for me to grasp. I can for sure see how this series inspired so many others that we now consider staples in the unfiction/analog horror genre
i normally get nervous about people talking about Marble Hornets since it's a series that is very dear to me and that i love a lot, hell i wasn't a huge fan of NightMind's videos on it since as a mentally ill person I didn't really like his interpretation of Tim/Masky as a character but your video was honestly very enjoyable to watch and I'm definitely looking forward to more from you!
The whole video was great, and I loved your discussion of the themes that surfaced in Marble Hornets. But also, I really loved the effort you went into making the MH inspired segments throughout the video! It took me a couple days to get to this video but I'm glad I watched it!
This video is really good, probably one of the best MH retrospectives I've seen. It's crazy to think how much this webseries did for the internet yet how little you hear about it these days. Your skits also made me realize how much I missed the feeling of watching a new entry. And yeah, we don't talk about Always Watching, that movie was created by people who didn't even watch the series nor consulted the creators that were right there and ended up with a contradictory story with respect to the series lore. The only good things about the movie were Doug Jones and a couple of references to the series (like the Alex Kralie's missing poster). A couple of things I want to add. Through various interviews and panels the creators sort of implied that the third TTA member was going to be Jay's masked state (that we briefly saw during Entry 26, but who was a way bigger presence on the Twitter side of the story), dubbed Skully. It would make sense when you think about it, with how TTA was able to know everything about Jay and also why after Brian's death the channel stopped, but they kind of retconned it with the comic I guess (but it's still going so who knows). Also, they sort of implied that the intended ending was Tim killing Jessica and then ending his life, however, just like with Skully, they retconned that. I can't really say that I like these retcons, but oh well.
I love Marble Hornets with a passion. The first time i ever heard of it was when I was really young and heard the name in passing somewhere. Didnt know what it was and never found out. It wasn't until this year i ended up watching it thanks to Jackmanifolds VOD channel (i like his reaction content, especially on horror stuff, because he gets engaged with the content and talks about it. hes also pretty observant too) and couldnt thinking about. I love the acting so much, especially from Tim. This was a great video!
Addendum Section:
1. Guys... I found a new tape in my collection 😱: twitter.com/saganhawkes/status/1483236529073897472
2. Technically not wrong, I just didn't touch on it for time's sake, but I think its worth mentioning. After Jay watches the tape that Tim was hiding from him, we later learn his first reaction wasn't to go and attack Tim. He gets lost in Rosswood Park and calls Tim to apologize, and wants to continue working together. He's attacked by the Operator, and seems to go through some sort of personality change from here. I feel like its similar to what happened to Alex, slowly making their behavior more violent. You can see this in Entry #82.
3. Apparently there's some pretty serious accusations around the creator of TribeTwelve, so I'd recommend taking those into consideration when looking at other Slenderverse creations: www.reddit.com/r/TribeTwelve/comments/is0avp/tribetwelveadam_rosner_accusations_everything_so/
To be clear, this has nothing to do with the creators of Marble Hornets, TribeTwelve and its creator are completely and totally separate.
I was wondering if you were going to mention that. TribeTwelve has been a personal favorite of mine for years out of the big three, so the reality of the situation with its creator is absolutely soul crushing. Its awful. I will continue to enjoy the series for what it was via Night Minds explained series on it but due to how Adam grossly misused his fame and power, its for the best that the series has been cancelled.
Wow I actually didn't know about the accusations surrounding Adam. I've been FB friends with Troy, Tim, and Joseph since the beginning of season 2. I've had quite a few conversations with them over the years and think they're all pretty cool guys. I've seen Adam in the comments a handful of time, but never saw them react to him. I always thought it was a bit strange, but this might be why. However I might be overanalyzing because I'm not 100% sure how long these have been public knowledge and the creators don't post much at all anymore.
Anyways I can't wait to watch this. I stumbled across it right before bed and can't watch it rn, but I definitely will soon. I really hope you took some details from Tim and Joseph's (separate) streams where they rewatched the series because they reveal quite a bit in them. Excited to check this out!
@Hellstone Productions separate the art from the artist, as always
yeah, the creator of TribeTwelve done lots of shit. Acting creepy around the female extras for the series DarkHarvest00, openly talking about his animal fetish, his apparent vore fetish, making out with a 15 year old fan at a Con, grooming a couple underage fans, keeping NightMind from opening up about the situation, upon other things which haven't been proven(besides him grooming underage fans), but I wouldn't be suprised if they were true.
this stuff was known for a while. He apparently was always creepy around female fans, and leaked messages were apparently leaked back in 2015. But no one wanted to believe it since he was such a "nice guy".
About the theory of Tim editing the Entry 76 footage, if you look at the positioning of the camera when Jessica is on the ground compared to when Tim walks in frame, it's actually a slightly different position. Idk if anyone pointed that out but I think it helps support the theory too.
One of my favorite comments on Marble Hornets was, "To be fair, Alex is acting very normally for a college art film director"
Trying to murder your cast and crew is a natural thing in the environment
@@maddoxio Probably yhe desire to as well.
As a film student, I can vouch for this
Hah! Hahahahaha
That’s hilarious.
It’s easy to forget how much of it was an actual straightforward narrative rather than just a bunch of screaming and running through the woods. While we’re all nostalgic for it, I think videos like this that look over what the story was are excellent, nice work dude.
yoooo wendigoon love you man
I was literally thinking man this channel reminds me of Wendigoon and then I saw this comment
Hi dad :)
Yo hold up, it’s wendigoon! Love your content and congratulations on 1 million subs!!!!
Wendigoon and Sagan are my top 2 for yt rn. I love the work you guys are putting in, your content is amazing!
Ah Marble Hornets.
The days when Slendy was actually used well and could be scary
Anything loses the fear factor when it’s been around for enough time. The only true fear is of what you can’t understand after all-
@@Crazygamergal exactly, ive seen too many slenderman r34 that he stopped being scary
@@ebitempurafry honestly I’ve been thinking about doing a thing like marble hornets but with momo 🤔. There’s a lot of potential with momo that the memes never tapped into!
@@Crazygamergal
If its the momo I think you're talking about, you'd have to get permission from the original artist to use her.
@@Miriam_J_ yea that’s the issue😅 I’d love to expand on the story and make a killer story but the original creator of momo hates his creation and is very unlikely to give permission 😔
"YOU BROUGHT YOUR DOG!" in isolation almost sounds like he's just drunk and excited to see the dog 😭
It’s the best line in the series in my opinion
I never noticed that Alex setting fire to Tim's house was done completely practically.
I just imagine Carl and Troy standing off to the side with fire egstinguishers ready to put that shit out.
I’m ngl this comment made me giggle
@@ChexzMix same
I think Slenderman is creepier without tentacles.
He seems more innocuous, more pedestrian.
He's still ominous, but it leaves his actual nature to your imagination.
Yeahh, it's hard to do tentacles without seeming over the top and silly. Not to mention that it tends to remind people of... other things
@@shadowbunny7892
Yeah, it reminds me of squids too...
@@jeremiahm3765 Calamari is just distractingly good, y'know?
@@shadowbunny7892
It's kinda chewy, but it's nice 👌
@@jeremiahm3765 better than octopi in my opinion, specially with rice.
The fact that Marble Hornets started exactly 10 days after Slender Man was created has always impressed me. I found MH back in 2014 and it’s always been my favorite
The very early planning stage; them just writing the entire story on disorganized note cards and basing the name on two completely random and innocuous things; is the most chaotic neutral artistic process I've ever seen or heard.
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Researcher found memetic kill agent deactivated
How many instances of scp-4498 are there? Tell us.
@@theadministrator.6632 shit.
@@theadministrator.6632 this comment feels like the teacher called on me, and I nervously looked through my empty notebook in complete silence until they felt bad enough to call on someone else.
Im using this
Something I will never understand is why people use tabletop RPG terms and concepts in any conversation outside of the tabletop RPG context. Chaotic neutral? How is it chaotic neutral and how does the method for telling a story connect to RPG alignment?
Magnificent! Nostalgic, inspiring, and a wonderful effort on all fronts in your coverage. (And thanks for the love, Sagan!)
good to see that creaters still respond to other creators. and hello night mind i enjoy your content its nice and engageing.
@@kod1265 huh only we are the only replies wierd.
Yo night mind you should re release your marble hornets videos not sped up. I’m too used to normal night mind talkin
Nick 💜💜💜💜
Crossover comment moment!
My biggest takeaway from this video is that hoodie and masky were not in fact 16 year old skinny anime boys. I love looking into creepypasta content that I only learned through fanart on deviantart when I was twelve. But yeah great video like always, loving the vibe
Lmao this comment brings back memories
but infact they were HUNKY DILFS😍😍😍😍
@@damnyouallgotohell2875 y'all actually need Jesus
@@justaserbiandoomer497 as if jesus wasnt a total hunk. he was a carpenter, remember
@@atlassolid5946 and he do got that 6 pack doe
Can you imagine my horror as a 17 year old girl in a frat house for the first time being shown Marble Hornets (literally right after it came out) with the framework that it was REAL, and then being told that it was filmed in THE SAME TOWN THAT I WAS CURRENTLY IN??!?! This totally influenced my love for horror and especially analog horror now, like 10 years later
DUDE, ME TOO, SAME TOWN!!!!! Oh my god it makes the series SO MUCH more spooky and personal recognizing where they film!!!
i miss this era of youtube. i feel like ppl aren't taking advantage of this site for hosting indie/fan films like they used to, in middle school my entire subscriptions page was filled with web series now you rlly have to go digging to not find one that isn't years old
The community is still fairly active, although COVID really screwed with a lot of ongoing series.
@@ralphjackson2518 ik it's just not what i thought it would be back when i was a kid. there are some huge triumphs like cryptv but not everyone reaches their heights
@@xokirei I guess it depends how much you dig analog horror. I absolutely love it, but I can get being turned ofd
@@ralphjackson2518 i wasn't talking about analog horror, just the indie film scene in general which is spearheaded by a lot of horror. ikwym tho
Sadly TH-cam has slowly been trying to kill off the "You" part and turn the site into mainsteam TV 2.0. Do to this the almighty algorithm favors big names and projects like this, which are a threat to the mainstream, get lost in the void of content.
I'm always so hesitant to watch anything talking about Marble Hornets since the series is so near and dear to my heart, but I'm actually not too afraid to watch this one
@Slender man😈 yeah it was fucking awful
@@telmoth you could say it was... Something Awful
I’ve been a humongous fan of Marble Hornets for a few years, so when you said you were doing a retrospective on it I was thrilled to watch it! I found your channel from your FNAF retrospective, so seeing you cover MH is awesome
OMG YOU ARE MY FAVORITE TH-camR!!!!!
I got into it as a nine year old and have been obsessed since (over nine years now lmao) so it's amazing to see this
@@confusedfey9192 I got into it at age 9 as well, I'm still obsessed lol
I've been so obsessed I made a fan film and alternate universe fan series lol
crazy to see you here! been a huge fan since late 2010s, glad to see you're still active :)
Your discussion at 44 minutes is so perfect. It’s so impressive what they were able to pull off. The shot where it pans to the operator with alex’s face in the corner and it barely gets hit with the flashlight is so scary and even more eerie with the context of the whole story.
I have an art print of that scene on my wall, courtesy of a best friend who also loves that imagery.
I've always been of the opinion that the operator is not the entity, but rather a symptom of the sickness.
Like a metaphysical rash, it manifests when the true entity, the sickness, grows too strong.
Oh that's pretty cool!!
I’ve had this interpretation too, and it was dangerous for me. I didn’t know I was schizophrenic when I got into MH, but when it started to come on it was the perfect thing for my hallucinations/delusions to grab on to it. It’s a great story, handcrafted to be about supernatural mental illness, so it slotted in way too well.
@@marafolse8347 I hope you're doing much better now.
I like the idea, but there's one thing that I feel like works against your theory, and that's the fact that the Operator appears on camera. Now, if the word "manifest" here meant that the Operator manifests itself physically from people having the sickness instead of just appearing in their minds, then I'd say you have a point. But what I've noticed is that people will sometimes start showing symptoms even if the Operator isn't visibly near. The opposite is also true; the Operator can appear even when nobody has shown symptoms yet.
My personal theory is that the Operator is the cause of the sickness, and that he can force the symptoms upon people at will in order to weaken and eventually kill them, or have Alex kill them. There are several instances of characters seeing the Operator but not appearing to get sick, which leads me to believe that the Operator is a real entity with a real, physical form.
@@PremiumCheeses oh yes I did mean that the entity physically appears, I just meant that the operator is like a rash, the physical part of a otherwise invisible disease.
It could be that trying to understand cause/effect is meaningless for things like the operator, he causes the sickness that causes him in a recursive loop with no start or end.
Mystery is a big part of horror, so having questions we can never answer is a big tick in the Great horror box
I remember watching this many years ago, it really was something special for its time, nothing like it could be made again in today’s environment. Thanks so much for covering this!! It’s gonna be a hell of a nostalgia trip lol
analog horror is literally the biggest genre in youtube gaming right now.
@@billyloper4072 and they dont do it convincingly, its a silly distorted face thing that would be better suited as a meme than unfiction
I mean the back rooms TH-cam content hits very very close to the mark in my opinion. It felt like we have something as special and uniquely made as the MH series
I think that with the editing capabilities and video tech we have today something very much like this could be phenomenal. That being said, I do see what you’re saying as TH-cam is so uptight about censorship that it may be difficult to get pushed by the algorithm if your story is too violent or touches on serious themes
@@mow_cat The Mandela Catalog,The Walten Files, Local 58 are great. And distorted faces tap into a natural response in humans.
about two years ago, i watched this entire series with my brother off of the official dvd on an old ass laptop. genuinely such a great time. he loves this series to death. he visited some actual locations and everything. thanks for makin' this video!
😭Knowing the origin of Masky and Hoodie has cleansed my spirits and watered my crops. Being in the Creepypasta fandom I somehow never knew about Marble Hornets.😕
Creepypasta fandom made me think they were just "genetic creepy Jeff clones" ™
It's wild to me that people know OF masky and hoodie but not know where they came from. It's the opposite for me. I watched marble hornets and then basically didn't touch creepypastas or anything for years and had no idea how much the extended Slenderman/marble hornets character universe blew up!
@@solarvoid777 I just knew them from the cringy twelve year olds fanfuction
FULLY AGREED
jk I already knew them before Marble Hornets
As an og fan and reader of the comic continuation, I genuinely hope it doesn't end with "it was all a dream" or "it was just radioactive waste left behind in rosswood park".
I hope it's an open ended conclusion that still alludes to the possibility of something cosmic or paranormal. I'd hate to have invested so much into this world that's obviously otherworldly to the real world idea that it was simply radiation poisoning.
It's has to be a cosmic explanation. The operator is so otherworldly in so many ways, and he acts very lovecraftian.
Like, why does it have a suit and tie? Does it have a true form? Was it there before time itself? Did it wear a suit before business suits were invented? Can it teleport or manipulate anywhere in the universe? Are there any more entities related to the operator? (EverymanHybrid had another entity which was almost as powerful as slender man. But it's in a completely different slenderverse so I don't think so)
Maybe the operator is just some crazy stuff the true thing (the cosmic disease) does to make the person crazy and spread itself
A paranormal, or should I say, spiritual explanation wouldn't be so good. It just doesn't fit him.
A religious entity? Meh.
It was all a dream? Hell no.
Such a creative and cool story w a fan base who could only muster up names like “masky” and “hoody” lol
And a fandom filled with mostly girl simping over a mentally ill and depressed man with personality disorder.
This is an emotional ARG, not only with the themes but because it is literally so many people's ARG inspiration (including mine) but it also fueled analog horror as it is today. Without MH we wouldn't be where we are. Truly a culture shift in the internet's way of entertainment.
i genuinely love the comic. being introduced to the dudes making a documentary about rosswood literally made me feel like any reaction image of ben affleck smoking. every day a man with insurmountable hubris decides to become a film student, and it is a travesty lmao
I remember following this series during its original run. It’s good to see that people are still talking about it years after it ended.
This and Everyman Hybrid are probably the most iconic Slenderman series in my opinion
EMH is so unbelievably good, at least to me it's easily the best
everymanhybrid is one of my favorite horror series of all time. im glad other people also enjoy it, even now.
Back in the day is was marble hornets and tribe 12
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 tribe twelve… sad what happened to destroy it. a good series, shitty creator.
@@HallowIsSmol what happened?
Honestly I think I it's pretty safe to say that marble hornets and Everyman hybrid set the stage for modern unfiction/analogue hortor
I really appreciate explanation videos. I have a panic disorder that makes it impossible to watch/play most horror, but I love the stories told so these types of videos make it so I can feel involved.
I still go back and marathon Marble Hornets every year for the month of October. Slenderman may be seen as a dead meme, but Marble Hornets is a testament to how the monster can still be terrifying if done right.
Me too! :)
does this guy always put this much dedication into the topics he covers⁉️ from mimicking the MH entry style, to watching slightly-obscure creator streams, to addressing specific topics like ARGs and slenderverse, it really is a meaningful examination of MH. honestly not used to "series EXPLAINED" videos having this much care put into them
Hiya! I know the creators/moderate online for Joe and Brian, and I can confirm that you're correct with the fact that they did not use stacks of flipflops for the operators height the whole time :) great video by the way!
Not having been involved in any of the fandom, I had no idea that the masked characters were referred to as "Hoodie" and "Masky". These nicknames makes them 1000% less scary and lame... I'm just glad I didn't find that out until after I watched everything!
It's like calling Michael Myers "Stabby" or something.
Or Jason just, Hockey
As a kid, my cousins and i used to pretend we were looking for slenderman (or the operator) with the neighborhood kids outside at night. It was so fun chasing each other and roleplaying. Marble Hornets and Creepypasta have a special place in my heart 😊
I used to pretend that I was a proxy in development lol
You missed the moment in Season 3 episode 7 where alex farts into the camera. It might just seem like a filler moment but I think it's super important as a sign of how far this guy has fallen since the operator came into his life
I know this comment is like 2 years old but I am dying laughing right now after reading that
So Alex in this story seems a lot less confusing if you see him as an accelerationist
He doesn't see himself as helping the operator even though he obviously is. He thinks he's burning through the destruction as fast as possible on the assumption that something better will come when the ashes settle. He just has no plan for what that is or how he'll get it. He'd just rather burn everyone than try to survive.
this is how i see it too. hes taking a scorched earth approach, probably on the assumption theres no way to stop whatevers happening to everyone involved, and the only solution is to cut off the infection by destroying all the disease vectors
Thats such a stupid philosophy lol
@@internettraveler8666it’s a little misinformed, the point would be to make it as worse as possible so it can can start getting better, like if you’ve got an infected wound, it’s better just to cut the wound open and squeeze the poison out, accelerating the harm from the wound but preventing further problems like gangrene, like if an animal has a contagious virus, you kill the animal as fast as possible to limit its ability to spread, the less people who are exposed to the operator the less people who can expose others to it.
@@internettraveler8666I mean, the whole point is that The villain think he's right, but that's the thing, he ISN'T
@@internettraveler8666if you can't make things better, you may as well make sure everything burns, right?
I got into marble hornets as a kid living in small town Alabama feeling so isolated from everything I liked and knew, so learning it was filmed in Alabama makes it just that much more special for me
Same here, except I’m from the Greater Birmingham area. Once I learned it was filmed in Alabama, I started recognizing a lot of the landmarks and filming locations. Much of the footage, including that in the gazebo, are at Oak Mountain State Park.
I remember watching these as they first came out. Truly no words for how crazy and legendary it was. All Slenderman Unfiction projects really blew it out of the water back then.
Same, my friend and I would watch them as they came out and talk about them the next day in high school.
watched some of the first season in 2011 when i was 10 and proceeded to spend the entire summer convinced every strange looking tree branch was slenderman and that every technical problem i had was being caused by him lmfao
Dude same. God that brings memories
Think about it. If we didn't have Marble Hornets, it's possible we would've never gotten any of the other horror series we all know today like Everymanhybrid, WhisperedFaith, Dark Harvest, and MLAnderson0, as well as analog horror series like The Walten Files, The Mandela Catalogue, and Gemini Home Entertainment. Thank you, MH, for existing.
I watched marble hornets back when I was around 11 years old, thats what got me into creepypasta and horror stuff in general, and yeah I was pretty young but I never really minded horror, it was more interesting to me, more fascinating rather than terryfying. Im going to be 17 now and marble hornets still means a lot to me, the way I can still remember the way I felt when watching it for the first time, wondering the whys and wheres, this video truly brought me back to that time. Thanks so much for making this video, and for reminding me of where my love for all horror related webseries, args and analogue horror stories come from
SH you are a fantastic little man and I absolutely adore how you edit your videos. You are not only well researched but you also have solid scripts that are masterfully presented. It's always a good time watching anything from you!
I never even heard about Marble Hornets, now im really excited to watch this (Edit) I know of slenderman but never knew about the origins and this series(Another edit) Holy crap man I had no clue this was filmed in my home town! And Ive seen that graffiti before! This is crazy
Glad to see some new eyeballs on this series. You won't regret it homie
Like @Xenobork said, you're in for a good time.
Uhhh DOES NIGHT MIND RING A BELL???
@@azgreat2344 Im really new to online horror, but I'll definitely check him out
Oh man, you're in for a TREAT. I don't know how WELL it's aged, but definitely check out the series. It's really impressive what they did with no real budget.
Ngl, I love seeing my fave creators gush about each other's content, especially in the horror/ARG community.
I've watched marble hornets a dozen times and know almost everything about it but I love watching videos explaining it
@Slender man😈 I have! And the marble hornets movie!
This was honestly my obsession when I was in middle school, Masky was my favorite character and the entire series was so ahead of it’s time. Awesome video! Brings back so many memories
everything that happens:
alex tries to kill somebody
hoodie shows up
fake slendy man shows up and scares away everyone
tim forgors
The use of the term "force of nature" to describe the Operator personally reminds me of, and this is a very odd comparison, Death from puss in boots 2. To the main cast, he's the antagonist of their story, but he's really just doing what he's supposed to be doing.
love the idea that they'd have to edit out the * thwack thwack thwack * sounds from the operator's platform flip flops
The Slenderverse, at least the early days of it, really set the whole indie horror/unfiction thing rolling on TH-cam. I'm sure there was some stuff before it, but this was the benchmark at which things really exploded from. Not only did it serve as the inspiration for much of the current analogue horror series, but it also led to the first Slender game, which was a landmark in terms of the "Man Screams At Jumpscare" aspect of horror gaming, which not only exposed more and more people to indie horror titles, but also allowed them to reach an audience that otherwise wouldn't have much access to horror games: Kids.
I'd be interested in seeing coverage of Everyman HYBRID at some point, AFAIK a lot of people consider that one to be even better, Night Mind among them. That said... talking about TribeTwelve is difficult these days. There's no denying that it was a well-made entry in the Slenderverse, and it was somewhat intertwined with Everyman HYBRID and I think also Dark Harvest, distinctly more than any of the others were tied to Marble Hornets... buuuuuut one of the creators, Adam Rosner, got outed as a paedophile in 2020, as multiple victims were finally able to come forward and share their stories. r/tribetwelve has a masterpost surrounding the event here: www.reddit.com/r/TribeTwelve/comments/is0avp/tribetwelveadam_rosner_accusations_everything_so/
It's actually pretty easy to talk about tribetwelve, you just talk about it. Don't understand everyone's preoccupation with rejecting the story for the sins it's creator.
@@pokejeenios Yeah if people really wanted to reject any piece of media that was created by pedophiles, they would be up in arms over about 99% of everything they watch. 🤔
TribeTwelve was an INCREDIBLE take on the Slenderverse, and the vfx used was incredible for the medium and budget. The creator is not his creation, especially when we aren’t giving him money by watching what he made.
Im glad someone else is so in love with the behind the scenes of this series
I won't lie, Tim pulls off the sideburns look really well.
Fr I couldn't stop praising his sideburns. 70's vibes, slayy Tim
Sagan: Lets do a summary of an ARG/Unfiction
Also Sagan: Turns it into an ARG/Unfiction style video
I'm always shocked no one brings up that there's someone in the Ark group who has a feminine figure and long hair who appears in one of the videos. They're clearly not any of the main cast, so I'm guessing they're one of these characters with no screen time that the creators talked about. I really wanna see people theorize more about them.
I believe you are referring to reused clips of Jessica. Deciphering a lot of the coded messages to me seems to reveal that totheark was quite cross with Tim for removing and hiding Jessica from the equation. totheark wished to amass a larger force capable of standing up to Alex. With Tim’s betrayal Jessica is gone and Jay is still ignorant of what exactly is going on.
Are you talking about when Jessica appeared on the screen for like a second?
The Marble Hornets series is something that brings a lot of nostalgia to me. It's so good and genuinely one of my favorite pieces of horror media of all time. It has a quality that feels genuine and oddly warm? Slenderman also has to be In his prime here.. It's nice to revisit it as the last time I thought about it was probably 2017.
I used to love Marble Hornets, just hearing about it made me want to rewatch it
Do it!
i gotta say, in a world where so many horror stories present psych medication as suppressing one’s humanity or power, i really appreciate that this series seems to present tim’s psych meds as a way to combat fear, as an empowering tool
I think it's funny that when I was a little kid watching all of these videos, I didn't know anything about totheark. Marble hornets was really fantastic even without the connected videos
i love marble hornets, every now and then i go back to rewatch it because of how good it is. this and tribetwelve hold very dear memories for me
Eckva is still going on today, and ties into the MH universe pretty well, and is set up to explain what the pills actually do and the company behind it
Marble hornets meant so much to me while growing up, and now that I’m more mature I can just really see the art of the story telling. Thank you making this 💛💛 brought back a lot of my old joy
This made me remember an old creepypasta with images I really liked. It’s from like the early 2000s, it’s called “I Found a Digital Camera in the Woods” and the photos are very eerie.
SO damn excited to see someone talking about this amazing work again! Truly an indie horror internet darling!
Edit: just finished the whole thing and it was fucking great. :) You did a great job picking apart one of my favorite indie horror series, and I was so happy to see you talk about the comics. They are great. I hope you will talk about them more in depth when they are completed. :)
Man...Marble Hornets. It feels like an ancient thing, like something that has always existed. It inspires creators in unimaginable ways...it inspires fear in us, too. The people who made Marble Hornets were (and are) geniuses.
Wow, I remember watching and trying to keep up with all the videos by in these series when they came out. I also had no idea they filmed it in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which is extremely close to where I live. So that's a amazing fact to learn.
Marble Hornets was my life for a while. One of the first major fandoms I was a part of. Yes, I do have a related tattoo. How did you know?
Anyway, thanks for the in-depth run-through to bring me back to the good days.
The inbetwee tv shots you did to introduce the next section were fantastic
Very well done, very spooky effects and you really nailed the vibe. This was WELL worth it. Keep up the awesome work, man. First came here for fnaf retrospectives but will definitely stay for the passion and attention to detail
Thank you for this video, I was a creepypasta tween back in the day and would always see the term "marble hornets" and proxy thrown around but I was too English-illiterate to fully grasp anything. (Plus my AdHd brain would've gotten frustrated trying to follow such a scattered narrative).
It's nice being able to put together where Masky and Hoodie came from (and find out so much about Slendy himself)
Haha tribe twelve 'can of worms'.... thats a polite way of putting it.
Thanks so much for covering this, it was such a blast from the past! I remember the days of watching new videos when they released and the last few videos of S2 blew my little teen mind. So much nostalgia, it was a great fandom in the early days.
I have a ridiculously high horror tolerance but the one thing that gets me is something that isn’t even that scary compared to other things.
Being chased.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that I’m slow af and would never get away or if it just makes my fight or flight kick into gear.
But the scene of the man in the mask starting to chase Jay gets me every time.
Same with the entity in the backrooms (Kane Pixels’ version) chasing the cameraman, the fake person in Gemini home entertainment turning and running for Jack, and the mimic running after the girl in Vita Carnis.
I remember watching these as a child (who was probably way to young to be seeing this kind of stuff) and just loving it. I used to be terrified of the woods because I was convinced Slenderman was out there, watching… waiting…plotting.
I recently went and watched the entirety of this series last Halloween and I gotta say, watching them back to back to back doesn’t hold up as well as it did back then. I don’t know if it’s just because I’m older and know that this is fake or because the series just… isn’t very good(??) but it certainly is propped up in my memory due mostly to nostalgia.
Still a great watch though, better than most “horror” videos TH-camrs pump out nowadays.
Marble Hornets was formative in my love for horror as a kid. Crazy how long it's been since I've watched it. It's impressive for an indie horror channel.
The blair witch project was a masterpiece even though it's really divisive. It created this entire genre.
One of favorite channels talking about one of my favorite TH-cam series for an hour what could be better
it was great revisiting Marble Hornets and learning about the new material as well! great work as usual, Sagan!
Randomly was suggested your Hello Neighbor video by YT, and you have got me hooked Sagan. I watch a lot of NM, Nexpo, etc, and you have an amazing twist on the style, and I'm super excited to see where you go from here, my dude.
I followed and watched Marble Hornets as it was coming out and always recommended it to others to watch for an immersive horror experience. It was, at least for me, always just on the edge of being real, believable. The acting sometimes gave it away, but that's pretty much it. I was captivated by the story and the mystery of it, the locations they filmed in and the effects and interactions with other media (totheark and even some twitter posts). As a total fan of found footage horror, it's a staple for me right along with the Blair Witch Project.
This video was awesome. I had forgotten a lot of what happened and as the posts became less frequent I lost track of the story at times so this was a great summary and retrospective. Thank you!
I lived in Tuscaloosa for a few months and got to explore Bryce Hospital! It was so cool had so many Operator symbols around. Too cool
I cant just sit here and watch without commenting how absurd the quality of your videos is you put an insane amount of effort into these videos and they are the most entertaining gems of videos
Ok the fact that you actually made your own small tapes in between sections and legitimately gave me the eerie feeling of the original series that i love ( the mask in the reflection of the tv is so insanely creepy and i loved it btw )
if you were to make another small series like your fnaf three part series from before (don’t tire yourself with a video everyday though) i and many others would support and love it! you have a talent for making awesomely scary stuff, and we can’t wait for what you have in store
I really respect you supporting the creators by not talking too much about the comics for content and instead telling people to buy the comics themself. 👌
This is an amazing deep dive! I’ve never heard about Marbel Hornets before, so this is epic
41:59 mental and physical heath are inherently tied, it doesn't have to be about one or the other. Slender sickness is a certainly chronic illness! (Just, sickness that lasts a _long_ time.) From personal experience, being sick all the time and forgetting things kinda fucks you up, it can make you irritable and paranoid. Mostly, I mean that this has to be abut _both._ This also fits the message of, continuing on despite struggles and despite past.
This was a great episode. I love your videos man, and as a big fan of MH myself, this just reminded me of times when I couldn’t wait til the next episode dropped. That feeling could never be replicated, but I will say, the edits you made in your sections of the video came pretty damn close to replicating that feeling. They were pretty spot on to how MH used to edit their videos, which isn’t seen often these days. Especially in the analogue horror series coming out these days.
Nice one 👍🏻
OMG, my favourite horror series! Marble Hornets, man, those were the days. I often feel like it was one of the grandfathers of today's analogue horror/found footage stuff. Thanks for this!
I had no experience with murder hornets at all before this video, but your work is so high quality I'm always excited to watch
This kind of dense, comprehensive but efficient overview was necessary for this series. Thank you. Subbed, and looking forward to everything else on this channel.
This was great. I watched nightminds take on this which inspired me to watch the series back in the day. Its great to see another take on it and also see where it headed. Thanks for the info on the comics, I'm gonna check it out. Keep up the good work!!!
I remember working as a Night Shift Social worker. While the clients were sleeping, my buddy and I watched all of Marble Hornets throughout the week. It made the week go by fast and gave us some stuff to talk about. I cannot forget those moments
Thank you for this! This is so comprehensive, I've always wanted to know what's up with Marble Hornets but the series itself and even Night Mind's (wonderful) videos on it are a bit dense for me to grasp. I can for sure see how this series inspired so many others that we now consider staples in the unfiction/analog horror genre
man its really cool to see how much higher your production quality has gotten in these few years, keep it up man!
LETS GO I WAS WAITING FOR THIS! I love marble Hornets so much I even have the Masky plush (and preordered the hoodie plush the moment it came out)
Sagan is single handedly resurrecting the entire Marble Hornets fandom and I love it
i normally get nervous about people talking about Marble Hornets since it's a series that is very dear to me and that i love a lot, hell i wasn't a huge fan of NightMind's videos on it since as a mentally ill person I didn't really like his interpretation of Tim/Masky as a character but your video was honestly very enjoyable to watch and I'm definitely looking forward to more from you!
The whole video was great, and I loved your discussion of the themes that surfaced in Marble Hornets. But also, I really loved the effort you went into making the MH inspired segments throughout the video! It took me a couple days to get to this video but I'm glad I watched it!
Marble Hornets got me into this whole genre, love it
i always ADORE how you incorporate the style of whatever youre reviewing into your videos. this one was truly phenomenal !!!
This video is really good, probably one of the best MH retrospectives I've seen. It's crazy to think how much this webseries did for the internet yet how little you hear about it these days.
Your skits also made me realize how much I missed the feeling of watching a new entry.
And yeah, we don't talk about Always Watching, that movie was created by people who didn't even watch the series nor consulted the creators that were right there and ended up with a contradictory story with respect to the series lore. The only good things about the movie were Doug Jones and a couple of references to the series (like the Alex Kralie's missing poster).
A couple of things I want to add.
Through various interviews and panels the creators sort of implied that the third TTA member was going to be Jay's masked state (that we briefly saw during Entry 26, but who was a way bigger presence on the Twitter side of the story), dubbed Skully. It would make sense when you think about it, with how TTA was able to know everything about Jay and also why after Brian's death the channel stopped, but they kind of retconned it with the comic I guess (but it's still going so who knows).
Also, they sort of implied that the intended ending was Tim killing Jessica and then ending his life, however, just like with Skully, they retconned that.
I can't really say that I like these retcons, but oh well.
Thank you, it was very interesting! I think that original idea with skully was good, but I'm glad that they changed Tim's ending
I love Marble Hornets with a passion. The first time i ever heard of it was when I was really young and heard the name in passing somewhere. Didnt know what it was and never found out. It wasn't until this year i ended up watching it thanks to Jackmanifolds VOD channel (i like his reaction content, especially on horror stuff, because he gets engaged with the content and talks about it. hes also pretty observant too) and couldnt thinking about. I love the acting so much, especially from Tim. This was a great video!