For a 1k amp they could have easily made it adjustable via bluetooth on a iOS or Android device. You shouldn't have to plug up a laptop to make changes. Because to state the obvious you need to be in the driver seat to fine tune the sound.
Great vlog guys! I’m curious why you need to use both amps meaning why do you need to keep the oem amp in? I ask as I was thinking I’d sell my Harmon Kardon Amp to help offset the cost of a new amp. Thanks so much!
Pretty sweet, makes me happy that it is 1000% easier to get to in the F30 lol. BMW was so kind to actually allow you to lift the trunk floor cover, that they actually made a clip to hold it up when you're working on it! That, and much easier/friendlier battery access haha. Great video guys!! Amazing how an AMP can make a world of a difference these days for otherwise factory systems.
Great video. I definitely need this for my M340i. Especially since both my Toyota's have way better sound systems at a lower price point. It's pretty annoying that this is what BMW puts in their cars.
Great video ! Can you please advise what have the bigger impact, changing the amp or changing the speakers? I m planning to do both eventually but im on the tight budget atm. Thanks
I am still a little bit skeptical with Bluetooth connection cuz it delivers worse sound compare with connection thru ipod connection. It would be great if you make another video about comparasion between Bluetooth, aux, and iPod connection.
Agreed. Bluetooth connection is really bad, especially through apple CarPlay(not sure if it connects Wi-Fi or Bluetooth) I always have mine plugged in and it sounds great, not super loud, but really good.
Hello good day I have a 2018 BMW G30 car. My car has a factory hi-fi sound system. If I install the amp in your g20 video, will it be compatible? and is the hi-fi system of the g30 and g20 the same? Or is there an amp you can recommend for the G30? I just want to install an amp, thank you.
So the HiFi amp is the same as the G20 and you can use the BimmerTech Premium amp upgrade but the bracketing is different and you’ll have to make a custom bracket to mount it. We’ve personally installed them in G30’s before and it sounds amazing! Reach out to our team at INFO@KIES.COM for more information or to get help with choosing the right amp 👍
Does this set up works for 2018 G30 530i?? If I order the kit from bimmer tech I’m able to connect the OEM amp with the Aftermarket amp in sync together??… is there a video on this for the G30?
The hifi system comes with like 350 watts.. with the new amp you get 1425 watts with another in/out wire that plugs into the non OEM amp installed. I’m powering 2 10s with 600watts plus all the car speakers.. it’s amazing
@@prawnstar9213 The question I have that I cannot find the answer without experiencing it. I have Hi-Fi system on my M240i and ordered underseat subwoofers and this new amp. Will it be enough? Will the sound be stronger and more clear then OEM H&K (let's say listening to Electronics songs)? Will I need to replace the door speakers?
Were turn signals and bmw chimes also increased and effected by this amp? Heard from others and on forums, it was the case. Interested to know if ASD has any effect on this.
Tip for install. I removed the entire side panel in the trunk and put the trunk floor in while doing the work and tape cuts. I then crawled into my trunk to lay on my side with seats down. More comfortable than reaching inside. Probably not a good look for video. 😂. Fwiw.
I bought a 2020 740i last march and was disappointed with the audio system especially because one of the options it has is the "premium" 16 speaker harmon kardon system. My 2006 jeep commander has a factory optioned boston acoustics system that blows this out of the water, and even the stock base stereo system on my 9 YEAR OLD chevy truck has more bass than the bmw even with the bass at max, very disappointed
Okay I tried to do it by myself.. I’m a chick but I actually inastalled an amp, head unit, and door speakers in my old 335xi. It’s a feat I’m particularly proud of. It was not something I’m used to tackling but I bought the car with speakers blown. Anyhow, I tried to do this by myself.. they made it look easy.. for for any chicks out there don’t try this by yourself. The interior carpet plastic piece can only come out to the seat lever.. it doesn’t provide much room easily.. if I were stronger I could have maybe bent it down but it was just too hard to reach by myself while holding the amp in one hand and locking the nuts in place.. I lacked a good light so I was just like FFFFFF. I called some friends to help and it will be done soon.. the weather stripping is stuck with glue so I felt bad that I removed the bottom of that out.
Just pulled my two amps outta my F30 and my Audison Bit Ten. Not really that hard. Upgraded all speakers to 5 1/4" from the shitty 4" stocks. Left those in the car and keep the ghost woofers working the whole time for full bass support in the cabin with dual 10" Skar's running at 1ohm in the trunk.
That is really cool.... I was getting really excited and then I read that it is not compatible with Harman Kardon system?.... that is really unfortunate :( .... any chance we see an upgrade for HK as well?
Recently upgraded my X5 G05 with the amp and speakers and it sounds fantastic. The level of detail in the music is amazing, a worthy upgrade. Installation wasn't bad, was a bit apprehensive about taking the door panels off a brand new car but after the first one, I got the hang of it.
My 2023 330e doesn't have the HK upgrade, and the base audio is trash. Even my 2023 F150 XL has better audio. It's very disappointing considering the car.
no it isn’t lol. i just came from a 19 s4 with the base system and it was terrible. it sounded like a congested nose because there was WAY too much mid focus, and no eq control for the mids.
I have a Mercedes’ and a 2021 bmw4 with 16 speaker system I paid extra. Bmw sound sucks in comparison. It misses everything in terms of sound, no bass and sound separation. Real bad sound
Yes, what you have is the equivalent of the logic 7 in your e65. You feel like the pro-hifi on your f01 worse? Are you sure the equalizer settings are good?
Harmon Kardon option is a good sound system. Much better than the Bose I had in a 2020 Macan and B&O in my 2019 S4. I thought the Audis was the most disappointing.
Did you have the B&O in the Audi? I had them in my 2017 S3 and thought they were great after I added a sub.. but it wasn’t that bad and I felt was way better than the bmw systems
I have HK in my 2020 M5 and it doesn't sound that great. I measured 85db peak and that's weak to me. Distortion at the top means amp can't push enough power. 600W? I don't know about that. Maybe 6 or 8 ohm speakers. Anyway, will this plug and play with my buggy and give me more power?
It is surely much much louder than 85db, or you got something wrong with your M5. Distortion doesn't mean lack of power from amplifier. Amplifier/soirce is distorting probably. Your underseat subwoofers are 4ohms and rest of the speakers are 4ohm aswell. This amplifier is not plug & play to yours unfortunately.
I got the Harman Kardon any upgrades for it? Not that the sound is not good I think only the bass is a little bit low. Otherwise it got really high DB and crystal clear sound.
Aweeome as always, nothing can go wrong when you guys are taking care of business. Totally unrelated, do you have any videos on how to install the gts oled taillights (by Vland) on a f32 428i Gran coupe??. I know you have some great tutorials to do this on all sedans, but this car....is different 🤦. Little help here, tnx guys.
questions: 1. How does this amp manipulate the front stage? 2. How does this amp manipulate the rear stage? 3. Does it combine the sub in a mono or stereo stage? 4. Are there any time alignment and/or RTA setting does? 5. If this is a three-way amp what is the power rating per stage?
It’s just makes the stages hit.. all you’re doing is adding the kind of power the speakers need.. you’re not changing the tuning really unless you tweak it to.. which you can do.
1. Time alignment gives you better front staging and better left + right recognition. 2. Rear volume is lowered so it feels like music is coming more from front of you. This is ideal for good sound stage and to hear music like its meant to be. 3. Subs don't have stereo, as they shouldn't. 4. Yes this amplifier has time alignment, with the tune you load from the website it gives you general time alignment settings, probably not the most accurate though so you should do it yourself. 5. I don't get your question
The newer Harman kardon on G82 should have improved amplifier and dsp functions, but Bmw in fact did make worse quality speakers for G chassis cars. You would best benefit from upgrading the speakers I think, atleast to get it better than F82
I may have missed this but were the alpha one speakers already installed or did they just switch the amp from stock? I am in the process of converting to all alpha one - already have the under seat speakers installed and waiting for the rest of the speakers to arrive next week. Hope the sounds is drastically improved and there is no need for the amp yet. Hope the door install isn’t too bad.
Dude nice install video, very informative… if I didn’t already have the Harman Kardon system I would definitely do an amp upgrade. I am considering speaker upgrading
Yeah, I have HK on my ‘13 F30 and have never been impressed esp for a 60k car! P.S. It also didn’t come with a backup camera and wish it had one every time I park for ten years now! 🤦🏽♂️
Love this series especially for us base model g20 guys
Ah yes, the poor spec
For a 1k amp they could have easily made it adjustable via bluetooth on a iOS or Android device. You shouldn't have to plug up a laptop to make changes. Because to state the obvious you need to be in the driver seat to fine tune the sound.
Dang! Zac did the outro! Well done and great vid!
Great vlog guys! I’m curious why you need to use both amps meaning why do you need to keep the oem amp in? I ask as I was thinking I’d sell my Harmon Kardon Amp to help offset the cost of a new amp. Thanks so much!
Pretty sweet, makes me happy that it is 1000% easier to get to in the F30 lol. BMW was so kind to actually allow you to lift the trunk floor cover, that they actually made a clip to hold it up when you're working on it! That, and much easier/friendlier battery access haha. Great video guys!! Amazing how an AMP can make a world of a difference these days for otherwise factory systems.
As a fellow F30 guy I agree! That extra storage comes in handy too. Still salty that the G20 is kinda better at literally everything else though.
Great video. I definitely need this for my M340i. Especially since both my Toyota's have way better sound systems at a lower price point. It's pretty annoying that this is what BMW puts in their cars.
Great video ! Can you please advise what have the bigger impact, changing the amp or changing the speakers? I m planning to do both eventually but im on the tight budget atm. Thanks
if you are going to install a dsp amp like in the video then always amp first if your speakers are not blown.
Have the same question.
I am still a little bit skeptical with Bluetooth connection cuz it delivers worse sound compare with connection thru ipod connection. It would be great if you make another video about comparasion between Bluetooth, aux, and iPod connection.
Agreed. Bluetooth connection is really bad, especially through apple CarPlay(not sure if it connects Wi-Fi or Bluetooth) I always have mine plugged in and it sounds great, not super loud, but really good.
You can definitely notice a difference
Can you also add an additional sub in the trunk after this?
Hello good day
I have a 2018 BMW G30 car. My car has a factory hi-fi sound system. If I install the amp in your g20 video, will it be compatible? and is the hi-fi system of the g30 and g20 the same? Or is there an amp you can recommend for the G30? I just want to install an amp, thank you.
So the HiFi amp is the same as the G20 and you can use the BimmerTech Premium amp upgrade but the bracketing is different and you’ll have to make a custom bracket to mount it. We’ve personally installed them in G30’s before and it sounds amazing! Reach out to our team at INFO@KIES.COM for more information or to get help with choosing the right amp 👍
@@KiesMotorsports ok thank you 😁🤩
Does this set up works for 2018 G30 530i??
If I order the kit from bimmer tech I’m able to connect the OEM amp with the Aftermarket amp in sync together??… is there a video on this for the G30?
I can not find the exact amp anywhere. I kept seeing other amps……. And 1k for just the amp..? 😮
Any idea when this will be in stock for the g20?
F30 340i how do I know which amp I have without taking apart the trunk?
Go to bimmertech website, punch in your bmw vin, they will send you a pdf with your system.
The amp for idrive8 is $500 more. $1499. Why?
Idrive 8 requires ram module to work
Make a vid on how to make the a90 sound good. It’s worse then a Honda lol
You mean the e90? It’s basically the same install. I’ve done it..
How does the amp affect the turn signal and phone volume? I’ve heard the Audiotec Fischer based amp upgrades really increase the volume in a bad way.
it would affect these things too?
ASD needs to be turned off or the turn signal and engine noise will be too loud for most people
@@miketennis14 even with ASD coded off there’s still an issue from what I’ve read.
What's the musical song
What was the power of the original system? Like how many watts?
The intermediate sound system, which I think is the one that they're talking about has 12 speakers and 205W of power, at least in spain...
The hifi system comes with like 350 watts.. with the new amp you get 1425 watts with another in/out wire that plugs into the non OEM amp installed. I’m powering 2 10s with 600watts plus all the car speakers.. it’s amazing
@@prawnstar9213 Hifi system comes at around 200 watts. Harman kardon systems are up there around 400 watts
@@prawnstar9213 The question I have that I cannot find the answer without experiencing it. I have Hi-Fi system on my M240i and ordered underseat subwoofers and this new amp. Will it be enough? Will the sound be stronger and more clear then OEM H&K (let's say listening to Electronics songs)? Will I need to replace the door speakers?
Sneak peak of spoiler
Can I add this on top of my hk m340i or no
Yes
Is that the Harmon Kardon speakers stock ?
It’s an option
Seems like all you really need is the harness and use any amp 🤷🏻♂️
Not many amps plug into that harness, but with some work, yes
That’s an Audiotech Fischer amp - right ?!
No it's ours ;)
It sure is
@@bimmer-tech and you use audiotech Fischer amps that are simply custom tuned by you correct ?
Will this work on a F48? 👀
Yes it will work in a F48.
$899 for this amp 👀🤑. Hope it's really worth 🙏
Word...for a G.. Hmmm
Try building one as good for less.
I just paid nearly $1400…inflation sucks
Does this amps work with installed bavsound speakers and subs? Will be a problem if I use this amp with my upgraded bavsound speakers for a g20 m340i?
How’s the upgrade? Is it worth it? I have their kit in a box and debating to either just upgrade amp and sell the kit or do both.
The g80 m3 sound quality isn’t that good either
How does it affect turn signal noise? And all the other alerts the car gives???
why would it?
No
I can attest, this amp makes a big difference. Did the amp and speakers and it’s night and day to the stock hi-fi that came with my M340i.
Do you think just the amp would make a difference?
Hi Chris! What speakers do u have? Oem?
I have the Harmon kardon. Is that the same as the hi if system??
@@iliketakingshowers found the answer to your question?
@@catalin.c Not yet lol
BTW link for the music please
Were turn signals and bmw chimes also increased and effected by this amp? Heard from others and on forums, it was the case. Interested to know if ASD has any effect on this.
BMW Genuine Rear Boot Trunk Luggage/Cargo Ties
Nice! That was the first thing I did on mine f30.. ripped off the base audio and got installed stage 4 Match kit. As you say it blows minds 😂😂
I need to do something with my sound system in my F30. It absolutely sucks.
Tip for install. I removed the entire side panel in the trunk and put the trunk floor in while doing the work and tape cuts. I then crawled into my trunk to lay on my side with seats down. More comfortable than reaching inside. Probably not a good look for video. 😂. Fwiw.
F15 X5 16speaker Harmon Kardon, no fancy EQs, treble at 10% and bass at 60% volume from 40 to 70%
Sounds dope,
This is definitely what I need in the F22 👌
Do the center speakers delete first. Supposedly sounds way better and it’s free 😂
Wish you guys shipped to the UK!
I bought a 2020 740i last march and was disappointed with the audio system especially because one of the options it has is the "premium" 16 speaker harmon kardon system. My 2006 jeep commander has a factory optioned boston acoustics system that blows this out of the water, and even the stock base stereo system on my 9 YEAR OLD chevy truck has more bass than the bmw even with the bass at max, very disappointed
May I know the name of the song please? Thanks.
Okay I tried to do it by myself.. I’m a chick but I actually inastalled an amp, head unit, and door speakers in my old 335xi. It’s a feat I’m particularly proud of. It was not something I’m used to tackling but I bought the car with speakers blown. Anyhow, I tried to do this by myself.. they made it look easy.. for for any chicks out there don’t try this by yourself. The interior carpet plastic piece can only come out to the seat lever.. it doesn’t provide much room easily.. if I were stronger I could have maybe bent it down but it was just too hard to reach by myself while holding the amp in one hand and locking the nuts in place.. I lacked a good light so I was just like FFFFFF. I called some friends to help and it will be done soon.. the weather stripping is stuck with glue so I felt bad that I removed the bottom of that out.
is the stock setup referred to on this video the amp that comes with the Harmon Kardon speakers?
No not the same
How is his new system compared to the Alpha One speaker upgrade you did a few months ago?
Just pulled my two amps outta my F30 and my Audison Bit Ten. Not really that hard. Upgraded all speakers to 5 1/4" from the shitty 4" stocks. Left those in the car and keep the ghost woofers working the whole time for full bass support in the cabin with dual 10" Skar's running at 1ohm in the trunk.
Love the sound but I’m just gonna stick with my HKs. But good video
Why not just get a factory harman kardon $875 upgrade instead of a $1000 diy upgrade
Because the factory hk is way overpriced and still sound muffled. You get this you get real audio.. not manufacture audio
Why is it sooooo expensive.
That is really cool.... I was getting really excited and then I read that it is not compatible with Harman Kardon system?.... that is really unfortunate :( .... any chance we see an upgrade for HK as well?
Alpha one tuned speakers and amp was made for f3xx series. I think you might find something in there
HK system sounds pretty good already imo there’s not much benefit in upgrading the amp
Recently upgraded my X5 G05 with the amp and speakers and it sounds fantastic. The level of detail in the music is amazing, a worthy upgrade. Installation wasn't bad, was a bit apprehensive about taking the door panels off a brand new car but after the first one, I got the hang of it.
When G30 is going to receive some love :)))
How in the world do you decide one day to grow hair like that..😳
Hi Bimmertech or KIES. Is this amp compatible with the LCI BMW x3 G01 HIFI? My car is arriving in the next 2 weeks, so no VIN yet.
Yes it is.. I just installed it on my 2023 bmw 3series. G01? And these are best to replace hifi audio with
Does the upgraded speakers make it louder as well?
My 2023 330e doesn't have the HK upgrade, and the base audio is trash. Even my 2023 F150 XL has better audio. It's very disappointing considering the car.
BMW original sound is very poor. Audi standart audio is on another level, and I am Bimmerguy, who is sad about it
The Audi Bose system is worse than Harmon/kardon though
win some lose some
@@dylan-nguyen audi also offers B&O which is better than Harman&Kardon
no it isn’t lol. i just came from a 19 s4 with the base system and it was terrible. it sounded like a congested nose because there was WAY too much mid focus, and no eq control for the mids.
I agree. I used to own a Q50 with the Bose system, and I recently bought an M340i and wow, I am missing the Bose sound system sooo much
Lattte reaction, but rhe audi sounds worse than bmw, i hated that in the audi
I have a Mercedes’ and a 2021 bmw4 with 16 speaker system I paid extra. Bmw sound sucks in comparison. It misses everything in terms of sound, no bass and sound separation. Real bad sound
Can you put a real system in the trunk still ?? My question cuz ima about too buy one at the end of next month
Nice bro let me know how much it is
Is 677 better than 676? I have S677 HiFi System professional DSP" in my f01 2010 and its garbage compared to the Logic 7 I had in my 2002 e65 7 series
Yes, what you have is the equivalent of the logic 7 in your e65. You feel like the pro-hifi on your f01 worse? Are you sure the equalizer settings are good?
Do you guys know if they make a version of this for a 2017 430i?
Does this work for a 2023 toyota supra base model 3.0?
Why has everyone skipped the ID6 G30s with Harman Kardon?
First!
I have harmann Kardon in my 330M 2021 G20. This amp will fit ?
Harmon Kardon option is a good sound system. Much better than the Bose I had in a 2020 Macan and B&O in my 2019 S4. I thought the Audis was the most disappointing.
Did you have the B&O in the Audi? I had them in my 2017 S3 and thought they were great after I added a sub.. but it wasn’t that bad and I felt was way better than the bmw systems
Sorry.. I’m dumb., you said you had B&O.. the B&O had no mid range which was frustrating for sure.. but I’m finding that common in cars these days:(
I got the bavsound ghost subwoofer. Thinking of getting this instead of replacing the speakers and tweeters..
Nice vid... I have the Hardon Kardan... is it worth upgrading with that amp?
Yes
I listen to all different genres of music...what tuning should I pick?
I have HK in my 2020 M5 and it doesn't sound that great. I measured 85db peak and that's weak to me. Distortion at the top means amp can't push enough power. 600W? I don't know about that. Maybe 6 or 8 ohm speakers. Anyway, will this plug and play with my buggy and give me more power?
It is surely much much louder than 85db, or you got something wrong with your M5. Distortion doesn't mean lack of power from amplifier. Amplifier/soirce is distorting probably. Your underseat subwoofers are 4ohms and rest of the speakers are 4ohm aswell. This amplifier is not plug & play to yours unfortunately.
I got the Harman Kardon any upgrades for it? Not that the sound is not good I think only the bass is a little bit low. Otherwise it got really high DB and crystal clear sound.
The trunk arm plastic takeoff thing.. for me.. wasn’t necessary but likely made it slightly easier to pull the carpet a bit
Honda odyssey 2021 Amplifier Bass ?
Hi there this amplifier combined to my G20 2022
will it be compatible to Malaysia's Right Hand Drive 330i? Will it even deliver to Malaysia ?
Aweeome as always, nothing can go wrong when you guys are taking care of business. Totally unrelated, do you have any videos on how to install the gts oled taillights (by Vland) on a f32 428i Gran coupe??. I know you have some great tutorials to do this on all sedans, but this car....is different 🤦. Little help here, tnx guys.
Where can i buy the clips for all the rear trunk??
questions:
1. How does this amp manipulate the front stage?
2. How does this amp manipulate the rear stage?
3. Does it combine the sub in a mono or stereo stage?
4. Are there any time alignment and/or RTA setting does?
5. If this is a three-way amp what is the power rating per stage?
Manipulating stages is a real thing with you? What is the quantitative measurement?
It’s just makes the stages hit.. all you’re doing is adding the kind of power the speakers need.. you’re not changing the tuning really unless you tweak it to.. which you can do.
1. Time alignment gives you better front staging and better left + right recognition.
2. Rear volume is lowered so it feels like music is coming more from front of you. This is ideal for good sound stage and to hear music like its meant to be.
3. Subs don't have stereo, as they shouldn't.
4. Yes this amplifier has time alignment, with the tune you load from the website it gives you general time alignment settings, probably not the most accurate though so you should do it yourself.
5. I don't get your question
I bought this amp from KIES and already installed it. Where can I obtain the various tune files? Mine is way too bassy now.
BimmerTech does the tuning, so to get it altered, please email support@bimmer-tech.net
Is this better than Bav Sound?
Anything “easy” for the G82 M4 with Harman Kardon? I feel that the F82 was better.
The newer Harman kardon on G82 should have improved amplifier and dsp functions, but Bmw in fact did make worse quality speakers for G chassis cars. You would best benefit from upgrading the speakers I think, atleast to get it better than F82
an amp with built in dsp and a EQ...
I have a 5 series w HIFI, can I get away w new speakers? Or do I need a new amp?
Amp is better to start with
always try and get the hk system if possible
x6 harman kardon is awful
Should this be done if I have the other sounds system by bmw?
Up to you
I may have missed this but were the alpha one speakers already installed or did they just switch the amp from stock? I am in the process of converting to all alpha one - already have the under seat speakers installed and waiting for the rest of the speakers to arrive next week. Hope the sounds is drastically improved and there is no need for the amp yet. Hope the door install isn’t too bad.
you have this vor MB E 220 also ?
It is B48B20B engine? Right?
Does this work for f30 335i?
wondering the same thing!!
Yes if you have the Base or HIFI system.
@@djalgarette29 or the HK
Better than f30 Harman Kardon amplifier ?
Way
I wanna do the same thing to my 335i GT but idk if it’s a F30 or a F34
Doesn’t matter it works for both
does this work for e66 740?
Is this compatible with 2020 Supra?
Unfortunately no
Dude nice install video, very informative… if I didn’t already have the Harman Kardon system I would definitely do an amp upgrade. I am considering speaker upgrading
I also have the Harmon kardon but i think it’s too weak. Is the amp upgrade not worth it on this system?
The Harman kardon sucks.
@@maybe_its_maybelline6381 This amplifier is not plug & play for harman kardon
Yeah, I have HK on my ‘13 F30 and have never been impressed esp for a 60k car!
P.S. It also didn’t come with a backup camera and wish it had one every time I park for ten years now! 🤦🏽♂️
Will this work with the Bose system in the 2020 Nissan Maxima platinum?
No it’s bmw only
No:(
Is the "base" system the Harmon Kardon? I've got a 21 M340i and concur with the pillow sound completely
the Base is not the Harmon Kardon. The Base is without the Harmon Kardon.
Harmon Kardon is an $875 upgrade on the 21 M340i, which I of course opted for on mine :)
Harman option code is 688 and base (HIFI in Europe) is 676.
No the base system in the us is the hifi system.. but in Europe they have an even lower grade system they call the base audio system
Do they make one for the a90 Supra?
Not yet, no. But still working on it :)
Can it fix to f10 m5 2013?
Yes
is it that hot in the shop?
It's ben about 100
Would this work with iDrive 8?
It does., I just installed it on my 2023 3 series with idrive 8
It does., I just installed it on my 2023 3 series with idrive 8