Because the 72-Pin connector for the Top Loader was designed to make an almost perfect connection with the carts. But, on the flip-side, it made the Game Genie 100% incompatible due to the thickness of the male connection of the Game Genie. This is the part that goes into the system and destroys the PIN connector of the "Toaster" NES. Well, Galoob found a work-around to get the Genie to connect to the Top Loader. They created an adapter where the cartridge end inserts into the PIN connector with ease and the other end was the PIN connection for the Genie. This adapter is nothing but a bunch of tracers from the female connection to the male. You could actually leave the adapter in and connect any game.
I've definitely seen this a month or two ago but for my short term memory I'd watch it again to support the legend that is tronics.. hope your keeping well 🙏
Keep your tip clean ^_^ When inserting new capacitors what i like to do is bend one lead and keep the other straight & solder, then bend other one back up and repeat :) hope that helps.
Things you learned from this Video: If there are a big and a small cap next to each other and you replace both, you desolder both, remove both, then insert the smaller cap before the large cap and solder the small cap in first ^_^
I'm pretty sure the top loading NES' with video out had the same port as what you see on Super NES and N64. Having the component cable plugs just jutting out looks wrong to me...unclean compared to the rest of the design.
First version of the top loader only had an RF output. Nintendo released another revision a bit later, that had the same multi AV out that the SNES had. Although I think the latter is quite rare.
@JXL_ST20 no they didn't. The AV Famicom, which looks exactly like the NES Top Loader, has the AV port. There was never a Top Loader NES with AV from the factory. It's RF only
@@povertygamerNo there were a small number of NES top loaders that were produced with an AV multi-out. They were mainly, if not exclusively sent to customers who sent their units into the Nintendo service department because of bad picture quality. Though there have been people who claim to have bought one straight from the store with the AV out.
@TronicsFix Long, you sound and look good, brother. How's the fight going. I relapsed with my leukemia and now have to be one chemo for life every day. Mine is a pill I have to take. Chemo day for me so love watching your videos.
The Top Loader with the Composite connections has been modded. I have even some that have been modded with an HDMI connection and a Power Switch mod where an LED light illuminates the red plastic when the system is turned on. Now, in Japan, Nintendo released an identical console, but obviously designed for Famicom carts. However, the port on the back of the console for the AV connection wire is identical to the one used for the SNES/SFC, N64, and GCN. Since the Famicom audio is in mono, obviously, there is only one connector for audio. It would have been nice if the USA Top Loaders had the AV connection. All I would do is get an audio cable splitter, so I would get what I call “Semi-Stereo.” I forgot to mention that the TOP loader is region free, meaning that you can play PAL carts on an NTSC TV with no problems. Also, you no longer have to worry about the 10-NES chip since it has been removed.
I've heard there was a voluntary replacement program (since the RF was so bad) where people could send their top-loaders in, then Nintendo would send one with a Multi-Out. Not sure if that happened or not, but they're probably ridiculously rare.
@@ZonicMirage The “Top Loader” Famicom units I've seen at trade shows and local game stores that carry import games and consoles, the AV wire came standard.
I was getting bored watching the desoldeing but then I realised it's usualy so edited down you have no Idea how long it actually takes or how much solder braid is used. So I sat back and enjoyed the realtime show.
At what temp do you usually desolder?. Sometimes I have a really hard time removing solder from the through holes and I cant tell if I need higher temp or if its just the cheap braid I bought
@@sjoerdvogel3352 Some people don't want to open up and modify the actual hardware. Not every system is easily modded to output to HDMI. The N64 for example. I just thought it was interesting the RF to HDMI was even a thing.
The second one I think somebody just added those dummy “mods” on there to try and make maximum profit on the resale. Why go through all that and stop??
i had a friend tell me, solder tip goes bad, heat with heat gun and wipe with q=tip with vinegar ... then clean with alcohol to get rid of the vinegar.. i have had that work a couple times..but other times not so much... anyone have a better method to save a soldering tip? (ima cheapo) lol
I have a Nintendo i tried to fix myself, but now it won't power on. I'd love to just give it to you to see if you can fix it. You can have it. i got a new one. Msg me if you want it.
Because the 72-Pin connector for the Top Loader was designed to make an almost perfect connection with the carts. But, on the flip-side, it made the Game Genie 100% incompatible due to the thickness of the male connection of the Game Genie. This is the part that goes into the system and destroys the PIN connector of the "Toaster" NES. Well, Galoob found a work-around to get the Genie to connect to the Top Loader. They created an adapter where the cartridge end inserts into the PIN connector with ease and the other end was the PIN connection for the Genie. This adapter is nothing but a bunch of tracers from the female connection to the male. You could actually leave the adapter in and connect any game.
I've definitely seen this a month or two ago but for my short term memory I'd watch it again to support the legend that is tronics.. hope your keeping well 🙏
I'm pretty sure I already watched this video a few months ago.
This is the longer version of the video in this channel, you watched it on the main channel properly and it was shorter
@TheGuya 🤦 thank you
Same here
Hey TronicsFix I love the vids. the drop and catch at 29:53 was pretty epic. Keep up the great content.
Keep your tip clean ^_^ When inserting new capacitors what i like to do is bend one lead and keep the other straight & solder, then bend other one back up and repeat :) hope that helps.
That mod was really interesting to watch, I also didn't know about the top loading NES. Very cool video 👍
@TronicsFix Long, you don't need to cut the PPU pin, you can desolder the Q1 transistor, a resistor and install the famicom Composite Adapter by RGR.
I end up learning so much from your videos. Not only entertaining but educational too😅
Glad to hear you're enjoying them!
Things you learned from this Video:
If there are a big and a small cap next to each other and you replace both, you desolder both, remove both, then insert the smaller cap before the large cap and solder the small cap in first ^_^
I'm pretty sure the top loading NES' with video out had the same port as what you see on Super NES and N64.
Having the component cable plugs just jutting out looks wrong to me...unclean compared to the rest of the design.
First version of the top loader only had an RF output. Nintendo released another revision a bit later, that had the same multi AV out that the SNES had. Although I think the latter is quite rare.
@JXL_ST20 no they didn't. The AV Famicom, which looks exactly like the NES Top Loader, has the AV port. There was never a Top Loader NES with AV from the factory. It's RF only
@@povertygamerNo there were a small number of NES top loaders that were produced with an AV multi-out. They were mainly, if not exclusively sent to customers who sent their units into the Nintendo service department because of bad picture quality. Though there have been people who claim to have bought one straight from the store with the AV out.
@TronicsFix Long, you sound and look good, brother. How's the fight going. I relapsed with my leukemia and now have to be one chemo for life every day. Mine is a pill I have to take. Chemo day for me so love watching your videos.
The Top Loader with the Composite connections has been modded. I have even some that have been modded with an HDMI connection and a Power Switch mod where an LED light illuminates the red plastic when the system is turned on. Now, in Japan, Nintendo released an identical console, but obviously designed for Famicom carts. However, the port on the back of the console for the AV connection wire is identical to the one used for the SNES/SFC, N64, and GCN. Since the Famicom audio is in mono, obviously, there is only one connector for audio. It would have been nice if the USA Top Loaders had the AV connection. All I would do is get an audio cable splitter, so I would get what I call “Semi-Stereo.” I forgot to mention that the TOP loader is region free, meaning that you can play PAL carts on an NTSC TV with no problems. Also, you no longer have to worry about the 10-NES chip since it has been removed.
I've heard there was a voluntary replacement program (since the RF was so bad) where people could send their top-loaders in, then Nintendo would send one with a Multi-Out. Not sure if that happened or not, but they're probably ridiculously rare.
@@ZonicMirage The “Top Loader” Famicom units I've seen at trade shows and local game stores that carry import games and consoles, the AV wire came standard.
He pulled the age old solution to game cart problems - blow in it
Wasn't obvious when you fitted it but I assume there is some sort of insulating piece under the daughterboard to stop shorting to the metal shield?
I was getting bored watching the desoldeing but then I realised it's usualy so edited down you have no Idea how long it actually takes or how much solder braid is used. So I sat back and enjoyed the realtime show.
Haha! It does indeed take a long time, longer than you'd think
I want to see more videos of you making your own stuff like that Lego console you made work👌
Thumbnail looks like you're thinking, "my preciouses".
At what temp do you usually desolder?. Sometimes I have a really hard time removing solder from the through holes and I cant tell if I need higher temp or if its just the cheap braid I bought
If the solder is melting, but not being absorbed into the braid, you might not be using enough flux. Even with a cheap braid, it should still absorb.
the only toploader that had the AV composite stuff is the "AV Famicom" and they're pretty rare. otherwise it's doing the mod yourself
the cleaning parts kept making me sleepy
Is this channel run by the same guy in the video?
I have also seen this one back then
Wouldn't that have been easier with the hot air instead of the irons?
While Composite (or better) mods are great, there are also RF to HDMI convertors and they work OK
Are there mods that skip RF and go straight to hdmi? If you are modding anyway, might as well go all the way.
@@sjoerdvogel3352 Some people don't want to open up and modify the actual hardware. Not every system is easily modded to output to HDMI. The N64 for example. I just thought it was interesting the RF to HDMI was even a thing.
Can you be so kind to share link of "magic eraser"
Those phantom plugs. LUL.
The second one I think somebody just added those dummy “mods” on there to try and make maximum profit on the resale. Why go through all that and stop??
older vid this, right
i had a friend tell me, solder tip goes bad, heat with heat gun and wipe with q=tip with vinegar ... then clean with alcohol to get rid of the vinegar.. i have had that work a couple times..but other times not so much... anyone have a better method to save a soldering tip? (ima cheapo) lol
not "u F" its the greek letter "mu" which means micro and F is in this case farrads so its micro farrads
Why is that TH-camrs are so afraid of using shielded cables when installing these mods? Smh.
I have a Nintendo i tried to fix myself, but now it won't power on. I'd love to just give it to you to see if you can fix it. You can have it. i got a new one. Msg me if you want it.
AHHHH DUN BLOW in it STEVE-0~!! XDD jkjk O bloe in mine toooo~ Orz
You using the wrong tip !
Use knife or beveled tip !
Is only my opinion.
You are using way too thin solder. I use 1 mm for these kind of work ...
When do you become a Turtle 😂🤣
Is this AI?
I’ve been watching quite a few of your videos and it fascinates me how you say the word ‘solder.’ You don’t pronounce the L.
Most in the US don't. We pronounce it "sodder". One of those fun linguistic quirks.
@@alphanerd2305 Thanks, I never knew that!
Whoa! Lord Voldemort is a nerd 😮 nevermind
what the deal with your hair ?????
He hasn't been well, he's back on the mend now tho